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SCO and Baystar Strike a Deal

comforteagle writes "As you'll no doubt recall, SCO financier wanted to cash-in on its stock because of how SCO was being run. It appears they've struck a deal. 'The SCO Group, Inc. today announced it has entered into an agreement with BayStar Capital II LP to repurchase and retire all 40,000 shares of Series A-1 Convertible Preferred Stock currently held by BayStar.'" Summary: Baystar and the Royal Bank of Canada invested $50 million in SCO in October 2003. In 6 1/2 months, they've now converted their investment to $13 million in cash and $13.7 million of common stock, for a loss of almost half their investment.

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  1. Ha ha! by BWJones · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In 6 1/2 months, they've now converted their investment to $13 million in cash and $13.7 million of common stock, for a loss of almost half their investment.

    Nelson: Ha ha!

    Seriously though. This should be a lesson to VC funds and financing operations that finance companies whose business models are built upon legal action and sucking off the hard work and sweat of people who make ideas work through the creation of products that improve our lives. These companies based on litigious action are typically fairly sleazy operations and will not generate any "good will" for the financing operations or companies.

    I personally would much rather support and fund (and yes, even make money from) companies who are out there to make a difference. Work to make something new or make a difference rather than prostituting yourself for mere money and parasitizing off of others hard work and insight.

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    1. Re:Ha ha! by Skyshadow · · Score: 5, Funny
      Work to make something new or make a difference rather than prostituting yourself for mere money and parasitizing off of others hard work and insight.

      Hey, if it worked for Bill Gates...

      (yeah, I know it's a cheap shot, but it's all I can afford at the moment)

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    2. Re:Ha ha! by moberry · · Score: 4, Funny

      What you should have done is hired Marta Stweart's old accountant, so before any of this went down you could have sold your stock.

    3. Re:Ha ha! by GPLDAN · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree that SHOULD be the lesson. Yet, Baystar reps constantly repeated the mantra that the litigation was not being focused on properly.

      I'm afraid that that the Baystars of the word learn, is to properly evaluate the IP case before funding it. In fact, a whole cottage industry is there for the plucking. Law firms that SPECIALIZE in consulting with investment firms, to determine if the IP case has merit. "Looking to invest in that no name company that has a submarine patent? Hey, talk to us first! We'll let you know if they have any chance of winning! Our lawyers only run $200/hr!"

    4. Re:Ha ha! by MikeXpop · · Score: 4, Funny

      Keep in mind Melinda Gates was the R&D genius that suggested Microsoft Bob, so I don't think he got the brightest star out of that crowd.

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    5. Re:Ha ha! by Fnkmaster · · Score: 4, Informative
      This is slightly different - this is a private equity fund, they do later stage investments than a venture capital firm. In particular, Baystar Capital specializes in PIPE investments, according to their own web page - Private Investments in Public Equities. These are private placements of capital to companies that are already publically traded in the market, so much later stage than true VC, more likely to be public companies that have stumbled on a cash-strapped period of time, but with well-established businesses and track records behind them.


      Generally, you aren't making the same kind of bet that 85% of everything you put money into will flop in private equity, and you don't get the kinds of massive multipliers on success that you get with early stage VC (where a 10 million dollar investment might turn into 200-500 million dollars worth of equity after IPO or a big acquisition deal for the real "blockbuster" companies).


      I'd guess that a 2x-4x multiple on their successful investments would be considered quite good (remember, these are mostly already publically traded companies). So actually taking a 50% hit on an investment would not be great for these guys, but it's still par for the course. Some people here are speculating they were partially hedged, though I'm not sure it would be possible to effectively hedge such a massive position in a stock that was difficult to short in the open market, though I guess they could have written their own options.


      According to their own site, they've invested $745 million as a fund, which means 50 million was about 8% of their entire fund. So losing half of it, while not devastating, is definitely not a trivial amount even for a fund like this.

    6. Re:Ha ha! by ThisIsFred · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, Microsoft. Hmm. Stallman's ideas were equally brilliant and changed the computing landscape in a profound way (you can argue good or bad, just like with Microsoft). But Stallman doesn't live in a 68 billion dollar robo-house, so his ideas aren't interesting to the general public.

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    7. Re:Ha ha! by hopethishelps · · Score: 5, Insightful
      i run back to enjoy my commodity hardware...i guess i have to thank windows for that


      Absolutely not.

      The concept of the personal computer was popularized by Apple with the "Apple ][" and Dan Bricklin's spreadsheet, Visicalc. For the open architecture PC, we have to thank IBM and the companies who figured out how to write a legal BIOS: Compaq and Phoenix. IBM later tried to close the architecture by introducing a patented I/O bus, and we have to thank a group of PC makers, led by Compaq, who had the collective balls to stand up to IBM in the marketplace. That's what, and who, gave us the commodity open-architecture PC.

      All this happened before Windows had any significance. Windows had little market share before version 3.0 came out.
    8. Re:Ha ha! by CTachyon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What about MS DOS?

      Prior to 3.3, MS-DOS was incompatible with itself, much less killer apps. I mean, one of the big new features of 2.0 was *directories*, fercrissake. It's more fair to say that the PC became popular in spite of MS-DOS, rather than because of it.

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  2. Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    1) Start up a private investment company 2) Invest $50,000,000 in SCO 3) ??? 4) Prof.. wait, I think I'm doing this wrong

    1. Re:Hmmm by cipher+uk · · Score: 5, Funny

      yeah you missed the
      's

  3. some is better than none by lawngnome · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Getting some of their money is better than losing it all when sco gets their ass handed to them.
    Next time I would suggest in doing more research...

    1. Re:some is better than none by Wiseazz · · Score: 5, Funny

      sco gets their ass handed to them

      It would be cooler if it was their still-beating heart.

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    2. Re:some is better than none by iDaZe · · Score: 5, Funny

      It would be cooler if it was their still-beating heart.

      That would imply they have one

  4. Stock to TP conversion by raistphrk · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, the good news is, RBC and Baystar are giving all of their employees a year's supply of SCO brand toilet paper for free. Two-ply.

  5. A hole below the waterline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Even the rats that funded this FUD operation see the handwriting on the wall. Half their cash is better than none....

  6. Wow by neilcSD · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is really going to hurt SCO, really going to put a large dent in their legal warchest. Let's say SCO does run out of money and they are forced to drop their suits...what happens when someone else purchases their "patents" and starts the whole thing over again (hi, Microsoft)? I'd almost rather SCO see this to the end, as it appears that they have a penchant for shooting themselves in the foot.

  7. Actually a little less than half... by Sebby · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Since I've taken my money from RBC to another bank, mostly due to their involvment w/SCO.

    Their (even bigger) loss.

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  8. Look on the bright side by L.+VeGas · · Score: 5, Funny

    SCO let them run Linux without having to pay that licensing fee.

  9. Somehow by FS1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would call this poetic justice, but since we all know the money came from microsoft originally. A loss of about 24 million dollars is nothing to them.

    What is really sad here is that people who could do something about activities like this Baystar/SCO/Linux/Microsoft/Sun/IBM/etc debacle don't care.

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  10. Bow to Your Master's Card by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Baystar and the Royal Bank of Canada investment:
    $ 50 million.

    Money lost on investing in SCO:
    $ 23.3 million.

    Poetic humiliation and embarrassment as payback for all the SCO's actions against Linux Users:
    Priceless.

  11. How to make a small fortune investing in SCO stock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    First, start with a large fortune . . . . . .

  12. Re:Profit by WasterDave · · Score: 4, Funny

    1. Invest in SCO.
    2. ?
    3. Loss!

    Sorry,
    Dave

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  13. Apparently not. by ron_ivi · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Aparanetly not... According to Baystar, they're happy with SCO's cash management, and mangement of the litigation.

    Quoth the article:

    "...BayStar is extremely satisfied with SCO's current operating and cash management plans, new initiatives, management of the litigation, and plans for improving its business going forward," said Larry Goldfarb, managing general partner, BayStar Capital.

    Now if they're so happy, why are they buying their shares back?

    1. Re:Apparently not. by alw53 · · Score: 5, Informative

      80 days in fact, today's volume was 262,879,
      and 10% of that is only 26,000 shares.
      They have 2,105,263 shares to dump!

  14. Just goes to show... by MooseByte · · Score: 4, Interesting


    A fool and his financiers are soon parted.

    It's been fun watching the SCOX hover around the $5 mark. I only hope they stay alive long enough for IBM and Redhat to be able to drive the stake through their undead hearts.

    Now for the REAL question - with evidence that Microsoft was behind the feeding of SCO, will the DoJ find the balls to actually investigate? Perhaps if the SEC launches action against the SCOzos...

  15. SCO stock is like ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny


    Daryl (to self): Our stock is like a stream of bat piss.

    Investor (in alarm): What did you say?!!

    Daryl (was that outloud?): What I said was .. err .. our stock shines out like a shaft of gold when all around is dark.

  16. Re:So SCO made money? by overbyj · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It sure seems that way based on the quote from Darl:

    "We're pleased that we are able to repurchase and retire the Series A-1 shares and we believe the agreement will benefit the Company and its shareholders," said Darl McBride, President and CEO, The SCO Group, Inc. "This agreement will eliminate restrictions, covenants, preferences, accruals for dividends, and allow the company greater flexibility to manage key aspects of its strategy moving forward. We believe the net effect of this agreement will allow the company to focus on its strategic initiatives, retain sufficient cash to defend its intellectual property, accomplish its corporate objectives and provide greater flexibility in the management of our operations."

    Darl sure tries to put a nice spin on this. The key part is the "retain sufficient cash". Basically, they suckered BayStar and RBC here.

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  17. You think it's funny, but actually ... by mec · · Score: 5, Informative

    When an investor such as Baystar does one of these convertible preferred deals, they can do something called "shorting against the convert".

    Here's how it works. At the time Baystar bought their convertible preferred shares, SCOX was trading at about $15 (roughly ... I can't be arsed to hit Yahoo Finance right now). Well, Baystar can sell shares at $15. They can sell shares that they don't even own ... that is called "short selling", and is a normal transaction on the stock market.

    You start with 0 shares, you sell (say) 10,000 shares at $15, now you have $150,000 cash and a position of -10,000 shares SCOX. (That's right, negative numbers!) Later, you buy those 10,000 shares back at $5 per share, leaving you with $100,000 profit and 0 shares of SCOX.

    What if you short at $15 and the stock goes to $25? Then you lose $10 per share on every share that you shorted. Except ... if you've got a convertible ... you just pull out the convertible preferred shares and convert them, in order to have shares.

    I'm not saying Baystar did this, but it's a common strategy for holders of convertibles. A convertible is really just a bond + a call option, and shorting against a call option is a common strategy.

    In other words, you guys are laughing that Baystar is stuck with a bunch of $5 SCOX shares, but Baystar may have already sold them a few months ago at $15 or $20. They'll just use these conversion shares to deliver back on the shares that they borrowed+sold at $15 to $20.

    1. Re:You think it's funny, but actually ... by GigsVT · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's not screwing anyone. It's a standard hedge. It reduces the holders profit potential, but it lessens risk since it basically locks in the shares at the short price.

      The only way you could ever consider this screwing anyone is when SCO initially issued the convertibles... convertible debentures and convertible preferred and the like dilute the stock, the same as any other stock issue, it's just that convertibles dilute the stock in ways that might be subtle for the beginning investor. (The dilution isn't immediate).

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    2. Re:You think it's funny, but actually ... by TheWizardOfCheese · · Score: 5, Informative

      The parent is an excellent post, and deserves to be rated +5, informative. However, I would like to point out a technical error to those Slashdot readers who understand finance:

      A convertible is really just a bond + a call option, and shorting against a call option is a common strategy.

      No. Many, many tears have been shed over this fallacy. Most converts are like a bond + call, so long as the credit of the name remains good. The credit will be reflected in the underlying stock price, and in this region, the bond value acts as a floor, producing an option-like value profile with positive gamma. That means that since you are long the option, your delta hedge will be profitable even if you can't rebalance. However, when the name is close to default, the bond value itself will go to zero; this produces a region of negative gamma. A convert thus has both positive and negative gamma, quite unlike a vanilla option; it's definitely possible to lose your shirt even if you're delta hedged.

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  18. I'm Now Taking Bets... by the_mad_poster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... on how long it takes Baystar to come out and say that SCO is talking shit and something much, much worse is happening from SCO's end than they're letting on to. Like Baystar starting a lawsuit or something.

    Seriously... I wouldn't put it past them.

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  19. Let me summarize... by Fnkmaster · · Score: 4, Informative
    They realized the 50 million was a big fuck up. The general VC/Private Equity reaction to a big fuck up is to get back what you can, save face for yourself, and try not to destroy/discredit the company publicly if at all possible (it makes it harder for them to get companies to do deals with them in the future).


    That's precisely what they are doing here. Getting back what cash they can, getting a bunch of shares they can slow-dump back to the market, and not fighting a big, messy legal battle to get their 50 million back. Of course, SCO doesn't have 50 million in cash to give them and it would effectively shut SCO down, or force other fairly dire measures on them to get together 50 million bucks and still have operating capital - while Baystar itself may not give a crap, it would look quite bad for them to screw over a company they had invested in that badly.


    So I guess we are left to wonder why Baystar bought into this deal in the first place. I have no idea, and I know there are lots of sinister motives assigned to this, but I'm sure some of the characters involved just got suckered into what sounded to them like a sure-fire legal get-rich-quick scheme - which is all that SCO's business is at this point.

  20. SCO's Scam by Blackeagle_Falcon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is it just me or does SCO's need for venture capital to fund it's IP litigation remind anyone else of one of those Nigerian 419 scams?

    Think about it, someone (SCO) has a line on a lot of money in the Nigerian central bank encumbered by some sort of red tape (IBM, Novell and basically every Linux user on the planet think SCO is full of hot air). They just need some cash up front in order to get it out (have to hire a bunch of soulless IP lawyers). If you are willing to front them them some money (invest in SCO) you'll get a phenomenal rate of return when the money is freed up (SCO wins their suit, or pigs fly, whichever comes first).

    The parallels are striking. Poor Baystar, they got taken by one of the oldest ones in the book.

  21. Re:So... by k98sven · · Score: 4, Insightful
    No. It was a $50 million dollar cash investment for new SCO stock.
    That means $50 million cash for SCO, and $50 million worth of SCO's stock.
    (AKA 'Reichsmarks', 'Confederate dollars', )

    Then it turned out that noone else felt that $50 million dollars of this SCO-money was actually worth $50 million. So they wanted their money back.

    They got $13 million. And some stock. The stock doesn't cost SCO anything.

    So SCO gets 50-13 = $37 million out of the deal. Not bad. But, they have totally screwed their reptutation with any potential investors.

    Now given that SCO:

    Is not going to win any of their lawsuits

    Their Unix business is losing money big time, and they have nothing to attract new business with, being generally dispised.

    They have no way of getting more funding from investors.

    They're sinking. Big time. However, Microsoft may very well pitch in to keep them afloat through the lawsuits.

  22. SubGenius fodder for sure by Weaselmancer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know the joke about the whole SubGenius thing..."If you're so smart, why aren't you rich?"

    Here is a prime example of why we are all SubGenii. We all knew that SCO would tank. We had a golden opportunity to make some serious cash. And you know what? I'll betcha not a single person on all of Slashdot cashed in on these fools. Damn.

    It's not often you have a sure thing in a horse race. And I just missed mine. Double damn.

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    1. Re:SubGenius fodder for sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Shorting is a big risk. When you buy a stock your potential losses are limited to your initial investment. When you short a stock your potential losses are unlimited. This is why I did not short SCOX, I was afraid someone like MS would buy them out, and then I'de be screwed. There is no such thing as a sure thing.

    2. Re:SubGenius fodder for sure by fname · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, when this was first announced, SCOX was trading at about $1. So when would you have shorted? $2, $5, $10? If you shorted $10,000 at $5/share, by the time it hit $20, you'd have to deposit an additional $30,000 to cover the difference in what you owe, otherwise you would need to sell.

      So ya, if you shorted at $20 you would have made a killing (almost double your investment). If you shorted at $5, you would probably have been forced to cover, losing double, triple or quarduple your initial investment. So it never would have been that easy.

    3. Re:SubGenius fodder for sure by Spruce+Moose · · Score: 5, Informative
      Stocks very often don't go to infinity so losses are hardly 'unlimited'.

      Also read about stop -loss orders on how you can limit your losses.

      "There is no such thing as a sure thing" is also a cool paradox. (-:

    4. Re:SubGenius fodder for sure by WhiteWolf666 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I did....

      Well, I tried, anyways.

      I spent nearly 4-5 days, every twenty minutes or so, trying to short SCOX. At $20, $22, even $18.

      Go look at my post history, I talk about it at the time SCOX was up there.

      I would have shorted 5,000, even 10,000 shares.

      I don't know exactly why, but there wasn't enough of a 'float' on SCOX for the mainstream brokerages to allow individuals to 'short' it.

      I was pissed off. I've spent the last few months bitching about it to my co-workers.

      In 'short' (no-pun intended), you didn't miss out on anything. It simply wasn't possible to begin with.

      I tried, and got nothing. Oh well *sigh*

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  23. If they go under $.20 a share by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can we stage a hostile takeover and fire Darl? I'd kick in $20...

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  24. Poor, hoodwinked BayStar.... by Vancouverite · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Not only did they lose big bucks up front ($13 Mil back from an initial $20 mil + whatever they paid RBC for their shares), but they will be dumping this stuff for months!

    From the PR:

    The agreement includes a restriction on sales and dispositions by BayStar of the Company's common stock. BayStar may not exceed on any trading day, 10% of SCO's average daily trading volume on Nasdaq during the five trading days preceding such trading day. The agreement includes a mutual general release by the parties and has not required compensation to any outside agents.
    If Baystar is lucky, right now that's about 250,000 shares a day average, or 25,000 shares a day that they can sell.

    But, let's assume that they can get the sales up to 500,000 shares a day average, letting them sell 50,000 a day. With 2,846,004 shares to be sold, that means that Baystar, if they sold every day, would need 57 market days (about 11 1/2 weeks) to sell out... with 25,000 a day, you of course double that. This means that, if they could start selling next Monday, Baystar would be out of the stock around the First of September (around Thanksgiving if they sell at 25,000/day)

    Poor Baystar....

    NOT!

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  25. Burn rate bites large chunk... by WCMI92 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Now SCO has $13 million LESS to harass people with. This shortens their lifespan considerably.

    Not to mention, they are unlikely to get ANY further investment...

    I think, with the inevitability of certain doom, even imminent, Canopy does what Canopy does best:

    Funnel the remaining cash into their own pockets and lets the SCaldera shell die.

    This is what they've done time and time again. Think Caldera got the money from their DR-DOS lawsuit?

    Nope. Canopy did. They formed a new Caldera corp, moved it's operations there and continued the lawsuit with the shell of the original corp.

    Anyone investing in SCaldera should remember that...

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  26. Interesting Darl Interview... by mikael · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There's an interesting interview with Darl at The SCO 2004 forum

    Darl: I was trying to explain this to my father the other day. We grew up on a ranch, and he was asking the question "What was up with all the lawsuits - sounds very complicated?"

    "Well, it's quite simple, it's like our days growing up on the ranch If you took the cattle up on the mountains in the Summer-time, and in the fall, you went to round them up, you had to bring the cattle back in, and whenever they had a brand on their side, you could establish which brands were yours. In the meantime, if somebody came and took your cattle, you had the rights to go track them down. When I was growing up we had a case very similar to this. Someone stole our cattle, we went and found our brands. The Brand inspector helped us get restoration of those cows back to us, and we were whole again with our property. That's exactly what's going here. Copyrights of software are very similar to brands on cattle. And what we're doing is we've found that the copyright [works] we have here have made their way into other properties. We're in the process of rounding these up, and once we have them rounded up, then we will feel that we have restitution and justice, for our intellectual properties demands that we have out there."


    Well, if he'd tell us what his brand looked like, we could return the lines of source code to him. Unfortunately, until we know what his brand looks like, these could be the stolen lines of SCO UNIX for all we know:

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  27. Interesting timing on the rescheduled earnings... by rewt66 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    SCO re-scheduled the earnings call for June 10. This is one day after the hearing on Daimler-Chrysler's motion to dismiss. Perchance SCO wants to have an early opportunity to spin the results of the hearing?

  28. Options by sjbe · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can buy an option to insure that a short doesn't eat your lunch. I would have shorted the stock, but the options were sold out.

    No offense but I doubt that is the reason. There are no options publicly traded on SCOX. Wish that there were, I could have made a killing.