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Engineering An End to Aging
Reason writes "Biogerontologist Aubrey de Grey has put forward a biological engineering plan to end human aging and co-founded the Methuselah Mouse Prize in recent years. Now he is finally getting some of the public recognition he deserves in an excellent David Stipp article at Fortune Magazine. If you ever wondered exactly how to go about engineering away the 50 million deaths due to aging that occur each and every year - and how to bring about a sea change in the scientific establishment - then this is the place to start. As an added bonus, I don't think you'll find a more succinct (and utterly British) answer to overpopulation objections to life extension than the one at the end of this article!"
If i lived forever I would get board, I probably join Wowbagger The Infinitely Prolonged in insulting the universe, we could insult everybody in it. Individually, personally, one by one, and in Alphabetical Order. I don't care if it is imposable I can dream can't I?
http://hhgproject.org/entries/wowbagger.html
...that we are all going to die some day.
We must be alert to the danger that public policy could become captive to a scientific-technological elite. - Eisenhower
Dick Clark
Cheers,
Ian
The murder rate will sky rocket because
1) Wives will just get tired of thier husbands if they have to live together that long and vice versa.
2)If people won't just die on their own then someone will end up killing them. Right now, we at least have the feeling that some peopel will just die someday.
3)If you have my neighbors for that long of a time you might kill them too.
Evolution or ID?
Well, that should be enough time to learn emacs. Thank you.
People should not be allowed to live without aging. The world is already overpopulated as is
Simple solution: Annual Free Motorcycle day!
That'll take care of that overpopulation problem in a jiffy!
You can't take the sky from me...
forget the penis enlargement spam. now, you can look 25 forever and get a penis enlargement. and of course it will come from my grandma who still looks 25.
Evolution or ID?
The problem is that I want to live forever, but I don't particularly want to have to share the world with everyone else being immortal as well. If world population were reduced by 75%, culling out the bottom 75% of the IQ curve, the world would be very nearly perfect.
;)
Heh. You've got a point. Oh well, if aging turns out to be curable, maybe stupidity will too.
The correlation between ignorance of statistics and using "correlation is not causation" as an argument is close to 1.
...suggested breeding for longevity. His book Methuselah's Children talks about it some.
Basically, you look for people who have all four original grandparents still living, and encourage them to breed with each other. Money was the incentive used.
But then, his concept required that you start the project in the 1800s. Today, I imagine you'd probably look for people with all eight great-grandparents surviving.
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Actually I got the record by replacing my mouse every 2 years with a younger one. I have had 6 incarnations of Fifi so far and amazingly she looks as young as ever.
Do not try to read the dupe, thats impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth
What truth?
There is no dupe
If people are going to stop dying they had best stop reproducing as well. There's already too many of you people breathing my air and eating my corn chips.
That's the roaches and rats, dude. Time to get a maid I thinks.
Table-ized A.I.
which de Grey figures will limit life expectancy to about 5,000 years.
Eat your heart out, Leto II!
Is anyone else a little freaked out by the spider-goats?
"You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness." - My first recursive fortune cookie!
In other news:
World Death Rate Remains Steady at 100%
World Death Rate, Annual
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2004 (est) 100.00%
2003 100.00%
2002 100.00%
2001 100.00%
2000 100.00%
Source: USA Today
Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.
But the whole purpose of wanting to live as long as I can is so I can eat more yummy MacDonalds!
I'm not normally an irrational zealous dickhead, but I figure "When in Rome..."
As long as they take along the Everquest servers ...
Culling of the bottom 75% of IQ is not the smartest thing.
Cull the bottom 75% by physical beauty and then just rule over them.
The surprise isn't how often we make bad choices; the surprise is how seldom they defeat us.
640 years should be enough for anyone.
(ducks and runs)
Man...if this guy has his way, I'll never collect that social security check. Retirement Age: 4,634 Current Age: 36 Back to work, I guess... Dave
By 'secrets', I think I was referring to the things that would give us more insight into the nature of reality and perhaps God himself. No matter how benevolent of a creator he may be, I'm sure he's going to cop a 'tude if we begin to undermine his control over us.
I plan to live forever....or die trying.
Vila
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Those crazy Brits!
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
It's the thought of being stuck with people like you for hundreds of years that frightens me. You suggest suicide but I think murder is a much more satisfying solution.
so if you are
a.) 58
and
b.) not bored
that begs the question.. what are you doing here?
-ashot
Death is bad
You just say that because you haven't tried it yet!
Talk about a generation gap!
If I was telling my children "when I was your age, a hundred years ago ...", I'd expect them to end my aging process with a weapon.
Sleep is just a poor substitute for caffeine, anyway. -Bob Lehmann
Oh well, if aging turns out to be curable, maybe stupidity will too. ;)
That one's easy - give them power tools.
"We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet"
currently at "Life of the creator +way too many years"?
Well, at least no one could make another derivative work of Michael Crichton's books.
Yeah, I know its not truly derivative, since he wrote the screenplay, but you get the point.
What?
Anonymous Kev
Proudly posting as AC since 1997
(Finally got a dang account in 2004)
"Who wants to live forever?" (That was a Queen song from "Highlander", a movie about immortals,BTW) I do, moron.
Overpopulation? Not when we Transhumanists get through with you monkeys. Your population will be nicely culled, thank you - assuming you don't do it first with your brain-dead wars and inability to cooperate well enough to feed yourselves.
Cloning? Au contraire, mon frere - cloning produces an entirely independent entity - does nothing for immortalizing YOU - unless you brain transplant which raises issues about the clone's brain. And it still leaves you biological and just as subject to death as the next clone.
The only solution to immortality is direct replacement of human biology with nanotech - body, brain, the works - non-destructive, fault-tolerant, failure-tolerant, restartable and resurrectable procedures only.
This will be done.
And whatever you monkeys think about it is irrelevant.
You're going to die. I won't.
Have a nice day.
Richard Steven Hack - This sig is TOO GODDAMN SHORT TO DO ANYTHING USEFUL WITH! MORONS!
That is a juvenile and irresponsible argument. That is precisely the same as the "if you don't want to be on the highway inside of a nice, big, safe SUV, then don't." It's selfish and it doesn't account for the cold hard facts about the earth's ability to sustain human beings at their present growth rate. Factor in an indefinite lifespan, and it's a nightmare waiting to happen.
Just because indefinite-lifespan opponents and their arguments can be predicted, doesn't mean that earth's capacity issues have been solved somehow by magic, or that by ignoring it in favor of praising this new, exciting science the problem just solves itself. It doesn't.
Luckily, we probably won't actually get indefinite lifespans. So you can play the part of the selfish bastard and have fun with it, knowing you'll never really have to pay the price for your stupidity.
Childish, selfish boobs, the lot of you.
Hey, that only works if you are in a domed city. Venture out into the wasteland and it turns clear. You also get to meet Peter Ustinov. :-)
Political correctness is the newest form of slavery.
Maybe. Give me a thousand years or so to think it over. :-)
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You cannot wash away blood with blood
Woody Allen says...
"Some people want to achieve immortality
through their works or their descendants; I
want to achieve immortality through not dying."
-- Woody Allen
Xeno? Didn't know you read slashdot...
interfering with nature / the divine plan
you don't hear people going around debating the morality of having toilets.
Speke for ye selfe. I tosse me shite out the windoe as olde tymes. This I wolde beseche thee hertely, rid ye selves of the infernal toilets! To be carnally mynded is to be emnyte agaynst God! Look ye and fynde how bleste to lyve.
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