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Bluetooth Gets Faster & Requires Less Power

An anonymous reader writes "The Bluetooth Special Interest Group (BSIG) has announced a new specification named "Enhanced Data Rate" or EDR for short. EDR aims to provide faster data transmission and reduce the power consumption from traditional Bluetooth technology. The data speeds will be roughly three times faster which means you could easily use multiple Bluetooth devices simultaneously. The reduced power consumption also means longer battery life and less heat generated. The new EDR standard will be backward compatible with the current standard Bluetooth devices. This makes upgrading to the new standard effortless."

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  1. Neat... by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... but I'm having to fight a little too hard to find neat things to do with Bluetooth. I made my laptop connecton the net once with my cell phone... but.. uh yeah.

    1. Re:Neat... by DarkHazard · · Score: 5, Informative

      With Bluetooth I'm able to also connect to the internet on trips but I'm also now sending wallpapers, ringtones etc to my phone.
      Another favourite feature is the Address Book sync. Its such a paint to enter full Address Book entries on the phone so instead I enter on the comp. and sync it with my phone. Bluetooth ain't so bad :P

    2. Re:Neat... by swordboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There's lots of cool things to do with Bluetooth but nobody'll implement it because they're all dumb.

      1) Cell phone "submissiveness" - an establishment (like a movie theater or a school) installs a device that causes your BT-enabled phone to shutthehellup. When this happens, the phone beeps once to notify the user of the situation. The user can opt out if he/she wishes.

      2) Tire pressures - to go along with our RFID license plates, our tires could tell our cell phones (or the dashboard) if they are low on pressure.

      3) Coupons - a person's cell phone (once again) could be configured to receive (or not) coupons at the grocery store upon entering.

      4) Wireless peripherals - the biggest usability problem with PCs these days is the rats nest behind (or on top of, in front of) the damn things. Holy shit... Some of you know what I'm talking about. This is crazy.

      Sure - it was all a nice thought and some of it even made it (I have a wireless keyboard that could have used the BT standard but didn't for WHO KNOWS what reason) but now we've got wireless-serial-attached-SCSI and every other damn wireless specification coming. Great!

      What the industry needs is an independent board to regulate this stuff. Intel doesn't like Firewire so they codevelop USB. Great! If we had a board that could pick a standard, we wouldn't be stuck with this cruft. Don't get me wrong - I'm all about having freedom but it would be nice if the industry said, "we like this standard - go ahead and develop that other crap but we will only endorse this".

      Sure - Intel does have clout but you still have to buy a separate USB cable for that iPod (usually a second trip to the store, too).

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    3. Re:Neat... by System.out.println() · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What the industry needs is an independent board to regulate this stuff. Intel doesn't like Firewire so they codevelop USB.

      First of all, we have such a body - it's called the IEEE. And I'm sure a number of other bodies I've never heard of as well.

      As for Intel developing USB because it didn't like FW... I don't think that's accurate. Firewire and USB are good at different things (FW is better at sending video, for example, but would be less than ideal for a mouse or keyboard due to cost) and can+should happily coexist on your computer.

      I'm all about having freedom but it would be nice if the industry said, "we like this standard - go ahead and develop that other crap but we will only endorse this".


      I don't think you realize that's exactly what's happening. Bluetooth and Wifi have been accepted, and while the others may come, they'll likely be considered "extras". (Wifi and bluetooth, like USB and Firewire, are good at different things - power vs. range and bandwidth, in this case)

  2. Finally... by DarkHazard · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A faster Bluetooth. With my Sony Ericsson T616 speeds are laughable and slow and maybe now Bluetooth will finally be able to maximize its potential and actually start to compete with other wireless specs.

    And the power consumption. A gift from the heavens. Bluetooth lowers my cellphones standby to about a 8 hours with no calls.

  3. Excellent... by th1ckasabr1ck · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... now I can move my bed even farther away from my desk and still be able to use my wireless keyboard. Rock.

  4. Well... by Inf0phreak · · Score: 5, Funny

    You could pick up toothing.

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  5. Yes, but will this be enough? by Brain+Stew · · Score: 5, Interesting

    With all the new wireless technologies coming out, (wireless USB, wireless IEEE 1394, etc.) will this be enough to save the failing bluetooth. I use a Microsoft BlueTooth keyboard and mouse and while it is the best keyboard and mouse combo I've ever used, the lack of market saturation cost me $160.

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  6. Great News, but how good? by powera · · Score: 5, Interesting

    By compressing more data per packet, do they just mean they are using a better compression algorithm, or larger packets? The first should only help a little and for some uses, the second could theoretically make a lot more of a difference. But the less-power usage will be good anyhow.

  7. Requires new hardware? by Karpe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Or can I just upgrade my Bluetooth dongle firmware?

  8. more bluetooth devices by Da_Slayer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Now that bluetooth is considered a more mature specification since they managed to make a specification update without having to break backward compatability.

    Maybe it is time for more bluetooth enabled printers and external devices. I wouldn't mind keeping the printer in the other room.

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  9. Nintendo by Grey+Ninja · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It should be well known by now that Nintendo is putting 802.11 and Bluetooth on the Nintendo DS. I am quite curious if this will make it there, as the DS would benefit from this GREATLY. Nintendo is downright vicious when it comes to defending battery life of their handhelds, so it's entirely possible.

    We can always hope, right?

  10. Now what we need... by Fnkmaster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What we need is a truly wireless desktop. Bluetooth is nice, but there are still power cords everywhere, or lots of batteries to replace or recharge. I'd like to have a single DC power standard, and a transfer mechanism for getting that power to my peripherals. Some sort of pad that you sit things down on (your cell phone, mouse, keyboard, PDA, whatever) so they get charged when you aren't using them. Now that'd be something I'd pay for.

    1. Re:Now what we need... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Imagine a hub for connecting power to devices....

      That standard is power bar thar runs 120V AC (or 220 or 240 depending on where you are).

      What this obsession about cordless and wireless for desktop ? I cannot understand the urge of adding cost, latency, batteries and junk to a desktop.

  11. Re:Suspecious by chrisbro · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can't compare the two. Bluetooth uses a much lower power consumption and is meant for very low-range transfers (1 milliwatt and 30 ft, respectively) where Wi-Fi uses 100 milliwatts and goes up to 300 feet.

    They're used for different things; local/personal -area transfers vs. high-speed internet connections.

  12. What about Ultra-Wideband? by amjacobs · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The IEEE standard for Bluetooth is 802.15.3. The 802.15.3a standard is a revision for the standard using UWB signaling. It promises data rates of > 100Mbps plus lower power.

  13. i-tought-bluetooth-was-already-dead dept. by mphase · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh you tought that did you? Maybe you should tink again.

  14. Phone companies don't like bluetooth by DrShasta · · Score: 5, Informative

    A friend of mine mentioned to me the other day that some phone companies (like sprint) are being very cautious about offering bluetooth support in their phones because bluetooth makes it so easy to share the internet connection on the phones. A lot of the phone companies (like sprint) are offering unlimited internet plans, and bluetooth phones would lead to a lot of abuse with people using the connections for their laptops instead of their cellphones. Anyway, it is one of the reasons that bluetooth adoption isn't taking off as fast as it should.

  15. More saturated than any other short-range wireless by thefinite · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I, for one, have yet to see *any* commercially available product with wireless USB. I first read about it quite a while ago. Wireless FireWire was just barely approved. While people are optimistic about it, I imagine Bluetooth with still enjoy lower power requirements.

    I guess my point is that there is nothing else available right now that does what Bluetooth does. Market adoption is *increasing*, if slowly. Bluetooth is far from failing. The truth is that right now, it's the only game in town. More personally, I love it and use it every day. My heart wouldn't be broken if something better replaced it, but in the meantime, improvements like lower power and faster data transfer are welcome.

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  16. Pricing? by Erwos · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The issue with regards to me adopting bluetooth has been more about the absurd pricing of said peripherals. The Linksys Bluetooth desktop (and not the fancy-shmancy Nuvo or whatever the hell it's called) runs like a hundred bucks, whereas the plain old wireless one runs for closer to $50. That's not an insubstantial difference.

    After a brief glance at Amazon, it also looks like you can't get BT phones unless they're for AT&T or T-Mobile. Considering that GSM coverage here in the USA seems to be kinda spotty compared to, say, TDMA, that's a serious drawback.

    The problem with BT right now is that it's an integration technology, yet it's difficult to use an integration technology that doesn't have wide-spread usage.

    -Erwos

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  17. Re:The remote control iPod??? by The+Lynxpro · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Not having a mac I don't have any links to hand, but you can already get an app for Symbian phones (don't know if it's for series60 or UIQ or both) to do various bits of Mac remote control by bluetooth. I'd *conjecture* (given the leetness of applescript) one should be able to control airtunes (as it's just new stuff in iTunes) using that sort of arrangement."

    There's a program for OS X that allows your Bluetooth enabled mobile phone to operate various things like change tracks in iTunes. Leo showed it on "Call for Help" about a month before the show was cancelled to make way for the merger between Comcast's G4 channel and TechTV. I doubt show notes that much in the past on the new g4techtv.com website yet, but you can probably find it on Leo's own site. I think its leoville.com or something.

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  18. 802.11 v Bluetooth by curator_thew · · Score: 4, Informative


    There's so much "crap" out there about "bluetooth is dead, long live 802.11", or "everything will be 802.11" or "elvis works at my local 711".

    They are complimentary, remember that Bluetooth was designed _specifically_ as (a) single chip solution, (b) low power, low cost, low size, (c) a short range point to point data replacement.

    Until I see true single-chip 802.11 devices that meet these criteria, there's still a space for Bluetooth.

    After all, you don't buy "dishwasher power" for your "washing machine".

  19. Hearing Impaired by Yonder+Way · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So when am I going to be able to get a Bluetooth-enabled hearing aid so I can interface with my PC, my cell phone and other devices? Hearing aids seem like one of the killer apps for Bluetooth yet they don't seem to exist yet.