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19th Century News Coming Online

mfh writes "The BBC is reporting that approximately a million news stories from the 19th century are going online. The project will cost roughly $3.6 mil USD (converted from UK pounds) and include 100 years of news and images from publications that are no longer copyright protected, and currently only available at the Newspaper Library in Colindale, North London. 52000 newspapers and magazines will be included and the project should take 18 months to complete. This is good news for Slashdotters, as this online archival project will provide a plethora of background material for articles and comments, and possibly pave the way for better online library projects with more current material."

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  1. Ye Olde Slashdott by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... approximately a million news stories from the 19th century are going online ... This is good news for Slashdotters ...

    This story is a dupe: http://yeoldeslashdott/article.asm?yere=1842&monet h=Junius&sid=-524841

    1. Re:Ye Olde Slashdott by abandonment · · Score: 5, Insightful

      considering how rapidly CURRENT stories seem to 'disappear' from modern 'news' outlets like yahoo & msn etc this is hilarious - we'll be able to look up stories that are a century old easier than ones from a few months ago...

      ironic, i think so...

  2. Dupes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I just hope we don't start getting dupes from 1859 around here...

    1. Re:Dupes by sentientbeing · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah imagine the science and tech news though.

      In todays news
      A loose organisation of gentlemen alchemists are currently awaiting a funding decision for research into the recently discovered "philosphers stone".
      A succesful working model of the stone has been built in london and commentators estimate the stone being able to convert 500lbs of lead into gold within the year.

      international news from the colonies, an american team based in arizona are currently building a large cannon in preparation for the manned trip to the moon.
      "Our steam powered cannon is almost complete and we are currently packing the hollowed-out-cannonball with food and weapons"

      "we will also be equipping the lunasphere with cotton wool face masks to prevent any contamination from the noxious fume which is rumoured to surround the moon"

      the masks are tied around the face of the lunanauts with silk ribbons provided by the womens institute.

      no mention is reported how the explorers intend to return to earth.

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  3. Re:Benefits Over...? by eyeye · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can find out just about um... anything from the above mentioned sources.

    Does it have a million news stories from the 19th century?

    No, well thats at least one benefit.

    lexis-nexis seems to cost money too.

    You were just going for a early post werent you, regardless of actually having anything worth saying.
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  4. Heh by mfh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Before everyone gets carried away with the dupe jokes (as I am the submitter), I think it's important to note the cultural and scientific differences since these articles were originally written. To have a central online repository of this much data will help students to learn. Many students today rely on Google, but google is lacking complete works. Now Google will be able to index another million articles, and that means our knowledge and understanding of that era will increase as time passes. All other benefits are still important, but the student factor is, I think, the greatest part of this.

    Now that a complete online library is going online, perhaps other libraries will follow suit, and keep information free?

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  5. Anyone ever read a small town newspaper? by iXiXi · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope these stories aren't like the small town papers I used to read growing up in the Appalacian Valley. "Mr. and Mrs. Smith had dinner at old widow Jackson's house Sunday after church meeting. Her leg is healing fine. They sat around and watched Andy Griffith reruns and ate collard greens n' such." ..some of these small towns seem to be stuck in the 19th century. So, I would expect the mentality of the writers and editors of the 19th century to be similar.

  6. Page 3 anyone? by colonslashslash · · Score: 4, Funny
    52000 free editions of Page 3 coming our way? Excellent!

    For non-UK ./'ers, Page 3 is a page in one of our more popular tabloids, The Sun, that publishes a large picture of a semi-naked lady every day. In fact, Page 3 is the only reason anyone ever buys The Sun.

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    1. Re:Page 3 anyone? by julesh · · Score: 4, Funny

      For non-UK ./'ers, Page 3 is a page in one of our more popular tabloids, The Sun

      Of course, other papers, including The Times and The Guardian, don't have a page 3. They go straight from page 2 to page 4, citeing concerns that The Sun may have received a patent on page 3.

  7. Re:Benefits Over...? by mikael · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As someone who has collected the five reprints of the Daily Mail from D-Day, I can say you will see far more than just the historical facts. There is a style of cartoon drawing (Illingworth) that would probably have you suspended from high school if you were to draw anything similar Not forgetting the aerial photographs of the D-Day landings. And there are those wacky adverts (what on earth was "Grandpa Kruschen" advertising?).

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  8. RTFA? by Ieshan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Millions and Millions of Articles put online that Slashdotters Won't Read!

  9. Oh come on! by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is old news.

  10. Oh, really? by ktakki · · Score: 5, Funny
    This is good news for Slashdotters, as this online archival project will provide a plethora of background material for articles and comments...

    Inventor Eli Whitney Applys For "One-Click" Cotton Gin Patent

    Pianists Seek Curbs on Player Piano Technology
    "Roll Sharing" Circles Seen as Threat to Recital Revenues

    Unsolicited Telegraph Messages on the Rise
    So-called "Lard" Telegrams Now Comprise 60% of Traffic, Operators Say

    Utah Granted Statehood
    Gov. McBride Lays Claim to Concept of Statehood, Says Other States Owe $6.99 Each

    (I think The Onion does this better than me.)

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  11. Its a good start by mikeboone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is great. Imagine having tons of written history available on the net. It would give those Google guys a challenge.

    Maybe there should be a Gutenberg Project for old newspapers and such. Lots of metadata for easy searching.

    One of the things that drives me crazy about all the stupid copyright extensions is the amount of recent history that could be digitized. Just imagine the interesting things to be learned from minor accounts from World War II and other events. Right now it's just rotting away on paper and film.

    Support the Public Domain Enhancement Act!

    1. Re:Its a good start by nautical9 · · Score: 4, Informative
      This is a good time to remind folks of the Distributed Proofreaders project, now the largest contributor to Project Gutenberg, where anyone can take a scanned page and compare it to the OCR output to check for errors. Sign up and give it a go - all browser based, and actually quite addictive. :)

      Get involved and help keep out-of-print and out-of-copyright books around forever.

  12. Homicide In Chicago 1870-1930 by AgentGray · · Score: 5, Informative

    This reminds me of a website that Nothwestern has opened that has most of the case files from Chicago homicides from 1870 to 1930.

    Take a look.

    It's incredible. How did anyone ever survive the city during that time period? If you feel like doing a little sleuthing and completing some unsolved cases, check it out. There's solved cases there as well.

    It's a good complement to Devil in the White City by Erik Larsen.

    The other amazing this is that almost nothing has changed in over 100 years...

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  13. Google Catalogs? by TinheadNed · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sorry to burst your bubble but they do. I have no idea how they do it, and tbh the sheer processing power or raw manpaper of scanning scares me.

  14. The Past Didn't Go Anywhere by freejung · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "Somebody once said to me, 'why are you always talking about the past, you can't live in the past you know.' I said, 'well, I can go outside and pick up a rock that hasn't moved for hundreds of years, and bring it back in here and drop it on your foot. The past didn't go anywhere, it's right here, right now.'" -- Utah Phillips

    They say that those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it, but I think those who learn from history are doomed to repeat it anyway.

    "I think we can all agree, the past is over." --Dubya

    Seriously, though, the past is interesting because it continues to have effects on the present and the future. Also, because we can learn from patterns that have occurred in the past and from past misakes, so stydy of the past helps us to understand what's going on right now. I think a lot of people who want us to forget the past have very specific things in mind from the past that they'd like us to forget.

  15. Re:Benefits Over...? by illtud · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is a style of cartoon drawing (Illingworth) that would probably have you suspended from high school if you were to draw anything similar

    Leslie Illingworth's original cartoon collection is in the National Library of Wales. The entire collection has been digitized and will be launched shortly on the Library's digital mirror.

  16. Wait just a dang minute. by jdjonsson · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've been working on a project similar to this for several years now. http://www.digitalnewspapers.org We have nearly 200,000 pages online and searchable.