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Comdex Canceled For 2004

Stephen Shankland writes "Comdex is canceled -- at least for 2004. The once-imposing tech event lost out to trade shows for specialized niches and consumer electronics, but the Comdex organizers want to bring it back in 2005, according to an executive quoted in our story at CNET News.com."

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  1. First Lollapalooza, now this by SamTheButcher · · Score: 4, Funny

    The 90's are truly dead....

    1. Re:First Lollapalooza, now this by lightsaber1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I totally agree. Awesome lineup, and cheap...the Toronto show was sold out long ago (or very close to it IIRC). Oh well, guess I'll have to find something else to do with my time. Comdex has been going downhill since '99 or so anyways. Waiting for the next big trade show to take control.

    2. Re:First Lollapalooza, now this by UESMark · · Score: 3, Insightful

      well part of lollapalooza's failure has to be due to the fact that they cleverly scheduled almost all of the shows for weekdays, since the chronically unemployed are a great market for $100 tickets.

  2. Smart move by kneecarrot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I for one think this is a good move. Regroup and try to make it better than ever for 2005. I've attended the last 3 or 4 and have see it slowly losing the spark it once had.

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  3. WHHHAAAATTTT!!!!!!!! by heldlikesound · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is an outrage, where am I supposed to get my stress balls, beeping rubber balls, and caffeinated mints from this year!!!

    Is there a way to bypass the conference go right for the swag?

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    1. Re:WHHHAAAATTTT!!!!!!!! by OcabJ · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The last Comdex I went to was in 2002. The free swag was non-existent. No hot booth girls. Same old product, different year.

      I ended up hitting the tables for the rest of the week.

      YEEEEEAAAAH!!!

    2. Re:WHHHAAAATTTT!!!!!!!! by The+Angry+Mick · · Score: 2, Informative
      Is there a way to bypass the conference go right for the swag?

      Yep:

      Of course, you may have to actually pay for the stuff this time . . .

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    3. Re:WHHHAAAATTTT!!!!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Stop thinking of yourself. Think of all the unskilled tech writers who use Comdex for six month of stories.

    4. Re:WHHHAAAATTTT!!!!!!!! by XaviorPenguin · · Score: 4, Funny
      Obligatory Red VS Blue Quote by Sarge of the RED Army:

      "...And then I want you to collect a bunch of free give-away crap like pens and mousepads and those little squish ball things. I love those little ball things! I had one once, can't remember where I got it. It hardly seems important at this stage.................I shore do like poofy things!"
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  4. Wow by Ag3nt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That is interesting, it was cancelled 2 years ago, but was brought back almost a month after its cancellation. I have always looked forward to Comdex and are personally downtrodden that it is gone(for now anyway). Budget issues are always a problem when it comes to huge conventions such as Comdex, Networld Interop, and Brainshare. Renting out a convention center and providing programs and conferences for the attendees can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Especially with times being as they are, I can understand why this event might have been cancelled even though the press release did not cover the reason...

  5. A Shame by cerebralsugar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Comdex cancelled , yet geeks dressed up like mr spock live on at star trek conventions. God really is cruel.

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  6. Hmmm by Otter · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I've got to think the Internet must have played a huge role, too. There isn't nearly as much need to fly across the country and spend thousands of dollars to learn about new products and demo them. Anyway, Las Vegas won't be missing the biggest bunch of cheapskates to tie up tens of thousands of rooms every year.

    Since we now have a Comdex story topic and now Comdex, maybe this is a good opportunity to revamp? Adding a Gentoo topic, for example, or a casemod topic?

    1. Re:Hmmm by swb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But how much interaction and hands-on can you *really* get at a trade show? At the few that I've been to, the best it might get is a backroom at a booth or maybe a hotel meeting room with a more in-depth setup.

      Even then, you're unlikely to be buying from the trade show rep, there's likely a sales office/person that represents your geographical area, or maybe you even have to go through a reseller.

      Sometimes you get weird inspirations at trade shows simply because there's so much to see, but often it just seems like an excuse for an all-expenses junket on the company dime.

      And as we all know, those aren't part of the new economy.

    2. Re:Hmmm by doormat · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "Anyway, Las Vegas won't be missing the biggest bunch of cheapskates to tie up tens of thousands of rooms every year."

      My dad sells food to the casinos and when I told him he wasnt too happy, even 50,000 people eat a lot of food. At least Defcon is still around.

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  7. Security jitters? by 14erCleaner · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The article claims that "security jitters" are keeping corporate types from travelling, thus hurting attendance. Is it possible that the TSA's reign of terror against airline passengers is more responsible?

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    1. Re:Security jitters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      yet 24,000 people attended Siggraph 2003. Maybe people are just going to shows that have interesting stuff?

  8. One less reason... by SkyWalk423 · · Score: 5, Funny

    for the /. nerds to leave the basement.

  9. Won't somebody think of the... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...booth babes. They gotta eat.

    1. Re:Won't somebody think of the... by PornMaster · · Score: 5, Funny

      Booth babes don't eat!

  10. all trade shows are suffering bad. by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I went to Itec not long ago and will never attend again. it was 1/5th the size from 2 years ago and everyone had this desperate "please talk to us" look on their faces at all booths.

    shows in general are pretty much useless.. overpriced tickets to see a talk by someone who is going to rehash what they said for free online and you already read, and the schwag has turned into crud.

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    1. Re:all trade shows are suffering bad. by telemonster · · Score: 2, Informative

      ITEC shot themselves in the foot. Our local unix users group in Southeastern Virginia participated a year or two ago. We gave out about 400 sets of free linux CDs, had a good attendance and were welcomed by both the visitors and show staff.

      Then the next year, cold sholder. "We want to act more like a training event" was the message. ITEC thought they could charge $400 admission and run some educational material to try to clue-i-fy IT managers or something.

      Whatever. Garbage in, Garbage out. It was fun the one year.

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    2. Re:all trade shows are suffering bad. by ergo98 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is actually a pretty insightful comment - trade shows at tourist locations like Vegas are often "benefits" handed out to worthy employees as a sort of present, even though the value of it is pretty questionable. It's basically a legitimate way to give an employee a semi-work-related reward without every other lobster in the office pissing about them getting a free vacation.

  11. Saw this coming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Comdex was more than a place for tea and crumpets, it was a place where average Joe IT could come, check out the babeage, get the toys, drool at the pundification, and check out all the cool techtoys to recommend to their bosses. It was the engine of the soul of IT.

    About the time of the .dotcom kabloom, Comdex bosses thought they were finally in the uppity ranks, and closed it all off except to 'vips' and other fortune50-exclusive folks. No more parties, just drivle from the big guys. They took out all the reason to go.

    Then again, they were innovators in showing the rest of the industry how to commit suicide by banning their customers and throwing away their products. Too bad there's nothing left to part out.

  12. Macworld / WWDC by tirefire · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't care what happens as long as I can get my webcast fix of keynotes at Macworld and the WWDC. Anyway, doesn't admission to these kinds of things cost ~$1500? I can see why, at this price, no one would want to go...

    1. Re:Macworld / WWDC by dknight · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You could get out of paying if they thought you were special. Heck, I recieved invitations every single year to attend, and was never expected to pay for it.

  13. R.I.P. Comdex 1979 - 1995 by oldstrat · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Comdex lost track sometime in the 90's but the real end was in 1995 when it was sold to Softbank.

    It went from being a twice yearly Mecca to being a monthly, or bimonthly travelling international 'Disneyland' for marketing.

    Prior to the infiltration by 'Windows World' it had been the hard core contact point for developers, implementors, and users, all feeding and grooming the craft (with the spice of some good natured marketing).

    There is a real need for what Comdex was just as there is still a need for the every other year show of photographics at Photokina in Koln Germany.

    Let Comdex lay in it's grave, quiet in silent repose, and start something unique and alive in the spitit of the original Comdex.

  14. Reflecting a change in corporate reimbursement? by PornMaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does the declining attendance reflect the fact that employers are less willing to waste/invest money sending people to "Gee Whiz" conventions?

    -PM

  15. Eh, not like we didn't see it coming by CarrionBird · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The IT business is quite fond of eating its young.

    In other news, check out the interview with Boucher linked on that page. At least he seems to actually be thinking about these things, instead of just following orders.

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  16. Re:Just like I told you in 2001 by ncc74656 · · Score: 3, Funny
    Comdex is dying.

    Has Netcraft confirmed it yet?

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  17. Quick! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Blame it on [choose]MS/Apple/Linux!

  18. First Bunnies, Now This by blueZhift · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The passing of Comdex kinda reminds me of when the Playboy Clubs in North America closed down back in the early 1980s (I think). It's the passing of an era, which in itself is not a bad thing. Things change and evolve and there's always the next big thing on the horizon.

    Comdex was killed by a number of things. The internet makes physically attending shows less necessary. Not only that with so many thousands of IT jobs sent overseas, many of those who might have attended in the past are no longer in IT at all. And the current generation of technology (I know, not well defined) has matured somewhat. There just isn't much in the way of mind blowing, paradigm shifting technologies that demand a Comdex. And heck, the consumer tech oriented shows like CES or E3 are more fun!

    Will Comdex really be back? Who knows? I won't cry if it isn't because when the time is right, something new and exciting will arrive on the scene. Afterall, the Playboy Club is still gone, but now we have Hooters! ;-) Buh-dump dump!

  19. Which is more Sad? by sbowles · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Trying to figure out which is more sad...

    1. Comdex being cancelled;
    2. The poster referencing his own post from 3 years ago; or
    3. Some Mod not realising that the 3 year old post was a troll like this or this.
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  20. It's about time by spidergoat2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ten years ago, computer shows used to be a lot of fun. Vendors had interesting displays, they had non computer related activities, they handed out lotsa cool wampum (swag). Last five years have been BORING at best. I just stopped going. I can get all the product information I need off the web. If vendors can't provide the carnival enviroment I need to make me want to go, well, fine. Comdex has left the building.

  21. about time by mabu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I used to exhibit at Comdex in the late 80s and early 90s and it was fun back then, with the exception of the facist Interface Group organization that used to run the thing and would take advantage of everyone they could. Exhibitors would pay years in advance to get a good space and then other people would show up at the last minute with cash and IG would give them premium exhibit space. It was a huge sham. I stopped attending years ago when it got so big that you needed a passport to get from one side of the convention to the other.

    I'm sure locals in Vegas are probably thrilled. Most of them hated Comdex anyway.

  22. No way by sulli · · Score: 3, Informative

    People might give security as an excuse, but it's a big fat lie. It's all about the bucks. Trade shows are simply a waste of money in this day and age.

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  23. If Comdex truly is an Tech/IT Convention by debian4life · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just hold it in India. What better representation of the Tech/IT industry could there be.

    1. Re:If Comdex truly is an Tech/IT Convention by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny

      They don't have to go that far. They could hold it in CeBIT's coat-check room, and CeBIT would never notice.

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  24. Re:Oh no! by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 3, Informative

    Has anyone heard about whether or not the AVN awards will follow suit!?

    You're confusing Comdex with January's CES, which is always the week leading up to the Adult Video News (Porn's Oscars) in Vegas.

    (It frightens me that I know this...)

  25. So Much for "Windex!" by Spencerian · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My problem with Comdex was that it wasn't a particularly attractive show. Because most tech on display was heavily influenced, in my opinion, by Microsoft work, the show got the nickname of Windex. As a result over the years, the less creative Microsoft became, the less interesting the shows became. Fewer people and exhibitors attended, and you see the result.

    Sorry, as a Mac tech, I don't do Windows, primarily. Today, in this world where viable alternatives to MS tech are plentiful, other companies are considering Linux, Mac OS X and other UNIX-derived tech and not looking back.

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  26. Canceled in US, moved to India by telemonster · · Score: 2, Funny

    I heard it's in Bangladesh.

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  27. I am not surprised. by changa · · Score: 3, Interesting


    Last year I worked tech at some of the press shows around Comdex and since I hadn't been to Comdex in years I just HAD to make it to the show.

    Nothing went right... Time was not in my favor but I managed on my last day to make it to the main show.

    With only 6 hours left to my trip I went into the show and saw it all in 2 hours.

    At least I had Vegas to check out for the rest of the time.

  28. Re:It's dead Jim... by ashitaka · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is why Comdex Vancouver hasn't been held since 2002. When the biggest exhibitors are LAN Rack salesmen you know you're in trouble.

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  29. (OT)Re:Wow by pegr · · Score: 4, Funny

    Downtrodden means "oppressed or tyrannized." I think the word you're looking for is "crestfallen" :-)

    "I've dropped the toothpaste!", Tom said, crestfallen.

    (That one always cracks me up...)

  30. Re:Sucks for Vegas by MtViewGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not really.

    Actually, Las Vegas resorts dread COMDEX because the attendees tend to be cheapskates that leave very little money at the gambling tables.

    The resorts actually make FAR more money from the National Finals Rodeo in December, where people attending this rodeo tend to be big spenders that do like to gamble.

  31. old Comdex attendee joke by poopie · · Score: 4, Funny

    Heard this about a decade ago at Comdex from people working in Las Vegas...

    "The typical Comdex attendee brings a white shirt and a twenty dollar bill with them, and during the week, neither gets changed!"

    1. Re:old Comdex attendee joke by CowboyNick · · Score: 3, Funny

      Last year one of the dealers told me:

      You know it's rough at comdex this year because even the hookers are offering discounts.

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  32. Yup--'bout time by MrRee · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Last time I went was in 1996 i believe--the last year in Atlanta. It had already become a showcase for Windows and pretty much nothing else. Might as well have called it MS-Comdex.

    I hate to see it go, but if it's time to go let it go.

  33. Re:GOD BLESS MORRISSEY! by SamTheButcher · · Score: 2, Funny
    "You got your Jobs in my Moz!"
    "You got your Moz in my Jobs!"

    Viva Apple! (Applejusted? Cupertino and I? Kill Bill? Oh, wait, that's been done. ;)

  34. What about the.... by ericlp · · Score: 2, Funny

    What about the poor hard working strippers at strip clubs? They love geeks.

  35. Does M$ have a hand in this? by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 2, Funny

    M$ has nothing new to release this year, therefore M$ will not permit there to be a show??? Is this a realistic scenario or is there a hole in my tin-foil hat?

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  36. Re:Sucks for Vegas by scatter_gather · · Score: 3, Insightful

    According to an unnamed reliable inside source (I can't remember the cab drivers name), tips from COMDEX attendees far outstrip those from conventions attended by doctors.

    If the casino owners have a gripe, it may be that COMDEX attendees posess basic math skills. This is an area in which cowboys are not known to shine.

  37. Blame Ziff Davis by mauriceh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They took a formally outstanding show and turned it into a place for deep pockets only.
    AND made it pretty well a "Retail" show.

    Are big trade shows dead?
    Heck no.

    Computex (May31 - June 4 in Taipei, Taiwan) this year had over 1,000 vendors showing, took over 4 big conference spaces in downtown Taipei surrounding the new 101 centre ( tallest building in the world) and over 100,000 registered attendees.
    http://www.taipeitradeshows.com.tw/com putex/fact_s heet.htm
    There are four good reasons COMDEX is dead:
    1) Ziff Davis made it too expensive, too difficult for smaller vendors/manufacturers.
    You do not go to a show like this to see what HP, Seagate, IBM and Microsoft are doing. They spend vast sums to tell you that in other media.

    2) People from outside N. America do not want to travel to the USA.

    3) US unions. To be a vendor at COMDEX cost about $5,000 for a booth space. And over $10,000 to get your goods in and out by the "show services" monopoly.

    4) It became a "retail" show. You do not spend good money to display at a trade show to meet 10,000 end user "tire kickers".
    You are looking for quality commercial leads. Qualified buyers.

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  38. Re:Was already dead by Halfbaked+Plan · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Legacy word processor was cannibalized and turned into WordStar for Windows. I had a new shrinkwrapped box of it and sold it on eBay to a collector.

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