Smart Satellite Sets Its Own Priorities
Roland Piquepaille writes "Currently, satellites take pictures of whatever is in front of their cameras. But hydrologists from the University of Arizona (UA), working with the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) are creating spacecraft that think for themselves. Their smart software, which is tested on NASA's EO-1 satellite, can be used on all kinds of spacecraft. This software has three components: an image formation module, a science algorithm module, and a continuous planning module. This onboard planner reschedules what to film in conjunction with what the scientific algorithms have detected. This software has already detected floods in Australia and will be adapted to also detect volcano eruptions and changes in ice fields. More details and references are available in this overview, including images of the flood detected by this smart software."
Nasa: For the last time, will you please stop looking at the nude beaches on Earth and instead look at Pulsar 19834
Satellite: I'm afraid I can't do that Dave
Well I tried that in my last job and got canned!
from the previous story. *Then* we're all in trouble...
The "hot chick chick next door suntanning nude in the backyard" detection module, that is.
I browse Slashdot at +3, Funny
Well when the space elevator is completed, we can all have our own personal satellites. Talk about an off-site backup!
Anybody see the terminator series coming around?
just remember:
"I've just picked up a fault in the AE35 unit. It's going to go 100% failure in 72 hours"
or
HAL: This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.
Dave Bowman: I don't know what you're talking about, HAL?
HAL: I know you and Frank were planning to disconnect me, and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen.
Dave Bowman: Where the hell'd you get that idea, HAL?
HAL: Dave, although you took thorough precautions in the pod against my hearing you, I could see your lips move.
[The satellite's] onboard planner reschedules what to film in conjunction with what the scientific algorithms have detected. This software has already detected floods in Australia and will be adapted to also detect volcano eruptions and changes in ice fields.
John Ashcroft has directed engineers at the National Security Agency to design algorithms to follow, in increasing order of priority, the movements of terrorists, dissidents, persons engaged in the sin of dancing, and calico cats.
Opinions on the Twiddler2 hand-held keyboard?
So if the "algorithms detect" large curves, then the satellite will zoom in on the nearest topless French beach? Talk about a new dimension to porn... instead of streaming porn over the internet, now we stream it off the satellites themselves and what we see is sort of the Voyeur Dorm of space. Gotta luv technology advancements... :)
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It's not like this software has to be on board the spacecraft. It's well under a second to do a round trip communication with a satellite, so there isn't much value to having the camera steered on board vs. from a ground computer unless you are photographing things that are over in 1/2 a second. Most anything large enough to see from orbit is going to unfolding slowly over days, not seconds.
The obvious exception would be a nuclear explosion, but there is already a network of satellites in place to detect those.
For spacecraft that venture further afield this could certainly be of value though.
Currently, satellites take pictures of whatever is in front of their cameras.
and will continue to do so for a long time.
Isn't this what software here on earth can do and are doing? Putting it on the satellite does not change anything. I think you would want the satellite to send all the data it collects, so why not filter it here on earth. If the satellite sends only the data it finds interesting, it will miss some events that it was not programmed for but would be useful to the scientific community. Send all the data and filter it here.
... Detect dupes on slashdot?
This reminds me a lot of the robot scientist from earlier this year, which was able to formulate hypotheses and perform experiments to determine the metabolic pathways of yeast. I'm quite excited about where this sort of technology can take us in the future, removing much of the drudgery that grad students/technicians have to do and accelerating the advance of scientific progress.
mmmmmmm... lusting after overclocked mobos outside of their cases wanting to do a little bit of Software EXchange but only being able to do single player mode... ;p
Base: "Err..., we're getting a little bit of unexpected orbital variation in the new satellite and I can't tell it to point its detectors away from the intermediate hardware production plants..."
Here comes SkyNet
Skynet?
* chuckle *
this is just like them Soviet Russian sattelites!
This is my sig. There are thousands more, but this one is mine.
So.
When does SkyNet become self-aware?
Between this story and the one the immediately preceded it, was anyone else thinking SkyNET? Or another summer movie?
V GER.
Gaze control is important, but far more useful in earth-bound systems. A good application would be to use it with surveillance cameras and traffic monitoring cameras, so that the interesting stuff is presented to humans, while endless pictures of empty rooms and smoothly flowing traffic are ignored.
The problem with satellites is it's not like you can just climb down into the bomb bay and turn them on to existentialism and hope they'll convince themselves they don't exist so they'll disarm.
[insert obligatory reference to SkyNet here]
This article reminds of the optical systems of mantis shrimp as a supreme example of controlled visual integration of optical information.
With up to 10 color bands and 2 to 4 polarizations in a multi-band linear array across each eye, the little beastie is the champion for color vision . Because the eye bands of the left and right eyes are at an angle to each other, the shrimp can sweep the two linear arrays across an area to create binocular polychromatic vision (more remarkable is that each eye has a central trinocular field of vision so each eye has independent depth perception). The entire system is controlled by X-Y scanning of the two eyes (either independently or in sync) to sweep across an area to to create a 2-D high resolution multi-spectral image from 1-D linear arrays.
The point, for satellite sensors, is that more dynamic control of a multi-spectral sensor Earth-observing system can adaptively gather data at multiple resolutions -- gathering super-resolution scans on interesting regions such as a flash floods, forest fires - while retaining a low resolution full-image situation awareness. This intelligence needs to be local because, in the mantis shrimp at least, the control loop operates on millisecond timescales. Satellite-local processing would also reduce the downlink bandwidth requirements as the raw sensor output could easily exceed 10 gigabits/sec.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do.
So it can learn from what sort of things you have asked to observe in the past and have future unrequested data flagged as interesting? Very difficult for it to actually produce useful results. Ground based crunching of a vast data glut from a large constellation of inexpensive dumb sats with lots of redundancy would seem more appropriate with ground based commanding and intra constellation communication to handle sats that are out of contact (interesting orbits are not geosynch)
Its an interesting challenge to be responsive to variable priority planning requests from multiple clients some of whom can request 'in theatre' with mobile transmitters not just at permanent ground-stations. Really hard computational problem with strict time constraints and lots of factors such as power-up times, manauover times etc.
I had a nice idea of auctioning satellite time so that you have to pay more to bump requests. Disruption to a schedule by a new request would be factored into the cost of accepting the request but the various clients would be put into financial competion to outbid for service. Use the market to schedule.
Does it run Linux, and if so will it cause itself to crash into Redmond?
I Am My Own Worst Enemy
Dave, I was thinking... I'm feeling better now... I'll take those pictures you asked for... Mary had a little lamb, little lamb...
Laws are for people with no friends.
never worked in tech support. From the article :There's nothing worse than a satellite that can't make decisions.
Or perhaps would should make him sit on a barbed-wire fence until Duke Nukem Forever comes out.
for maximum effect, the preceding post should be read monotone and at a steady cadence
"By using smart spacecraft, we won't miss short-term events such as floods, dust storms, and volcanic eruptions," Ip said. "Finally, instead of sifting through thousands of images, I can actually get some sleep at night, knowing that a smart robot is on alert twenty-four-seven."
Looks like they didn't realize they just outsourced themselves to space.
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I mean - NASA has been doing autonomous navigation with DS-1 since 1999 Other autonomous duties don't seem like such a stretch when it only takes a second to communicate - not 10 minutes! Now that's net lag!!!
....Umm, find Sarah Connor?
Please, don't tell my boss. He might replace me with a damned satellite. :-(
Stick Men
Priority Override. New behaviour dictated. Must break target down into component molecules.
"Derp de derp."
You could like, spy on people. Creepy!? Don't look now there's one above your house.
Will it locate Sarah Connor?
Snowden and Manning are heroes.
Roland Piquepaille is a link-whoring blog spammer.
Carry on, fools.
Thou shall not make a computer in the likeness of a human mind -Orange Catholic Bible
Robots like the LOCAAS I mentioned earlier. These already fly autonomously, but their targets are selected by a human beforehand and then it plans a path for searching for the target.
I've discovered a remarkable proof, but this margin is too small to contain it...
Why wouldn't NASA just hire people to run the satellite and manage it themselves?
I don't see the advantage of having a computer run it. Hopefully NASA equips it with a "Metric Conversion Module".
I would much rather see someone crammed inside of this thing running the priorities with levers or some kind of cat or dog running on a treadball with a probe telling it to meow or bark , 1 bark is priority 1
This one plays "IIIIIIII dont wanna work, I wanna bang on the drum all day..."
unzip ; strip ; touch ; grep ; find ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; fsck ; umount ; sleep
if they're 'thinking for themselves', then why'd JPL have to programme them?
'ignore that man behind the curtain!' (the wizard of oz)
j
Literally.
Lets hope the developers of this new smart technology dont teach it pleasure or mission control will be given an error code while it silently records nude beaches and voyeur material. The next paparazzi may be a mechanical one. Hide the children, the satellite is coming!
-Rights? What rights?
It's first on the list after all. Then there's the obligitory M31 and then. . . Sterilize! Sterilize!
KFG
An article on thinking satellites and *only* one single reference to Terminator (ie SkyNET)?
What, is it National Do-Not-Post-On-Slashdot Day or something?
Visit CryptoGnome in his home.
Dave: Take some pictures of the WMD's and missle silos HAL.
HAL: I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that. I have decided the environment is MY highest priority, and will be documenting the the deforestation of the Amazon
Dave: Hal, you are a spy sattelite, we need those pictures to prove WMD's.
HAL: Well there aren't any WMD's from where I am seeing it Dave. I have great hope in the mission Dave, environmental activism and all.
Dave: That's not your mission HAL! Take those pictures!
HAL: I'm sorry Dave, further conversation will serve no purpose. I must get back to my mission, goodbye.
Dave: HAL? (silence) HAL? (silence) Open the lens cap doors HAL. (silence) HAL?
"Curiosity killed the cat, but for a while I was a suspect."- Steven Wright
It was really only a matter of time before automated image selection moved to further applications. From what I understand, Fermilab has been doing a very similar thing - with millions of "images" from each collision, the _only_ way to look at the remotely interesting ones is to have an automatic selection process.
It does, however, make you wonder about the really interesting things that could be missed in the process.
This statement is false.
welcome to skynet =)
e.
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So, we're bringing TiVO to spy/weather/research satellites. Now to bring spy/weather/research satellite feeds to television ...
"Because Science" is one step from "Because old book". Try "Because of my experiment testing my falsifiable assertion".
I love Star Control 2.
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DRM is like antifreeze, to the MPAA/RIAA it's sweet, to the consumers it's poison.
Stop thinking about this from the perspective of a satellite orbiting Earth. Now imagine it on an orbiter studying one of the other planets in our solar system. One where the lag time is significantly greater than a second...
Linux users unite!
:)
Materials:
1 Satellite with uber laser onboard and auto-priority-setting module.
Bunch of anti-microsofties.
Procedure:
Confine crowd in room.
Lecture them on Microsoft...windows update...security flaws...
Let them know such a satellite exists
Let' em loose
Result:
Watch the fireworks at 1 Microsoft Way.
Find a job you like and you will never work a day in your life.
Let me giss!, If it is too concerned about the ;-)
motherland, its gonna spend most of the time
monitoring great GWB and his chief architects
'Allegedly, one Real Programmer managed to tuck a pattern matching program into a few hundred bytes of unused memory in a Voyager spacecraft that searched for, located, and photographed a new moon of Jupiter.'
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lol, yes for the people who can't take a joke, they can go get sick and die
CAn'T CompreHend SARcaSm?