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glabels: Ready For Prime Time

Joe Barr writes "NewsForge is running a review of glabels. It's still in beta status, but it's ready for prime time now. It knows hundreds of predefined label formats and allows you to design your own templates for custom work. Barcodes, images, just about anything but MP3 tracks can be printed on them. glabels is destined to become one of the most popular native apps for Linux." If you need harder-core barcode support, the excellent kbarcode would probably make a good complement. (NewsForge and Slashdot are both part of OSDN.)

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  1. Wimps... by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    ..back in The Day we'd just "cat > /dev/lpt" and do it right the first time. If the client was lucky we'd remove the tractor feed strips off the "cards". Fancy pants, downtown GUIs and pointing and clicking and carousing and hooliganism...

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    1. Re:Wimps... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      "offtopic"? Goddamn punks with their 21st century mod points and mice and mice with 4 buttons and a wheel and color and sound...

    2. Re:Wimps... by name773 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      not me, i'm browsing with links on a 10 year old retired desktop (got it for free :)) that doesn't even have x installed

      it's still functional!

    3. Re:Wimps... by Alien+Being · · Score: 4, Funny

      Quit your whining ;-) We didn't have some fancy /dev/lpt or even an lpt0:. All we had was the printing terminal. Hell, we didn't even need a computer to make address labels, just a loop of punched tape and either a teletype or flexowriter.

    4. Re:Wimps... by name773 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      links is a bit different from lynx
      i, for one, was quite glad to find out about the former, it's a good browser

    5. Re:Wimps... by torpor · · Score: 3, Interesting


      you haven't lived (as a computer geek) until you've worked on a coding project, 20 hours a day for 5 weeks, sitting in a chilly halon-smelling computer room, with a 128-char daisy-wheel printer chattering away in your ear, printing label print jobs you spooled with 'lp sometextfile' 4 months ago ... having to cat/cut/grep/uniq that same 'sometextfile' whenever the tractor-feed edge tape gets jammed and you only notice because the temperature in your immediate vicinity has risen because the daisy wheel hasn't noticed and is stuck, typing the names and addresses of 150,000 people, over and over, on the same position on the rubber roll, and the whole thing has started to smoke.

      until you've been there, its hard to understand why its not so easy to get excited about a program called 'gLabels', which just seems so ... redundant ... even in its 'advanced'-ness ...

      you need a GUI to print labels? Bwwaaaahahahaaaahahaahaa! here's a dime kid, go by yourself a chance to type 'man awk' at some command line ...

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  2. most popular native apps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    glabels is destined to become one of the most popular native apps for Linux
    Oh yes, because I can't make it through the day without printing labels.

    Either this is a statement about the status of Linux apps, or a comment on the poster's anal retentivness.

  3. A label maker? by stratjakt · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is newsworthy?

    That's what Bart's aunt Selma got him for his birthday. It caused nothing but trouble.

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    1. Re:A label maker? by underpar · · Score: 2, Funny

      But it caused the o so important plot twist for the episode. What would have happened if Bart hadn't put the label on there? He wouldn't have ended up in the well and we wouldn't have gotten to see Sting's badly drawn shirtless chest.

    2. Re:A label maker? by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Funny

      Awwwwww! There's only one beer left... and it's Barts.

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  4. Standard in Open Office by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting


    wouldnt it make more sense to package a label printing facility as part of Open Office as apposed to a standalone application ?

    great idea that *nix has this now but these sorts of things have been standard in MSWord for a long time, do i really need to open a specific application (and all the hassle of saving/re-opening) just to print a label or envelope ?

    1. Re:Standard in Open Office by prockcore · · Score: 4, Informative

      great idea that *nix has this now but these sorts of things have been standard in MSWord for a long time

      Not really. You need Avery to do anything more than wipe your ass with a sheet of labels under Word.

      OOo has label support, it even has more templates than Word... but neither are as complete as Avery.

      This is supposed to compete with Avery.

    2. Re:Standard in Open Office by femto · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In that case, shouldn't a label printer be implemented as a print queue filter? That way any application can print to a label, without being aware that it is doing so.

    3. Re:Standard in Open Office by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Have you tried to use the label printing option in Open Office? I have. My wife asked me to print off 5 pages of labels. Sounds simple right? She needed to print off a bunch of name tags for kids and parents at her soccer club. The names were in a spreadsheet. Still sounds straightforward, right?

      Not.

      I think I spent 1-2 hours banging my head against open office trying to get this to work. It is possibly the clunkiest, craziest, non-intuitive procedure I've yet to come across.

      Compared to that, the description of glabels sounds like a dream..

    4. Re:Standard in Open Office by ethix · · Score: 2, Informative

      I find glabels very easy to use, and I really like the fact I don't have to fire up a full blown office suite to print some labels, or work on a business card. It's a terrific tool...cheers to the programmers.

    5. Re:Standard in Open Office by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Parent post is just plain WRONG!

      Since at least Office 97, Microsoft Word has had more templates than you can shake a stick at, and the ability to easily create custom ones in a snap. Not to mention a quick google for the ID of the label you are using will get you a template in no time flat.

      Yea, Word isn't free software, but you are serving the entire open source community a grave injustice by flat-out lying about Microsoft products.

  5. Underpromise, Overdeliver by Farley+Mullet · · Score: 5, Interesting
    glabels is destined to become one of the most popular native apps for Linux.

    This seems like a nice little application, but I don't think you do it any favours by hyping it up so much. Great label-making program, check; most popular native application for Linux? That might be a bit of a stretch

    1. Re:Underpromise, Overdeliver by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      This just in:

      Label making fever sweeps the nation

    2. Re:Underpromise, Overdeliver by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That made me wonder about the maturity of linux as a desktop platform, even more than before.

      I'd just assume there would be a way to print envelopes/labels from linux. Even if it was an OO.o template, or some such. It's a fairly simple task.

      Sad. Wake me when they come up with the calculator or cardfile clones.

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    3. Re:Underpromise, Overdeliver by tuffy · · Score: 2, Informative
      I'd just assume there would be a way to print envelopes/labels from linux. Even if it was an OO.o template, or some such. It's a fairly simple task.

      gLabels has been around for three years. It might look nicer now and support more labels than it did then, but it isn't as if Linux has gone without a method of making them until now.

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    4. Re:Underpromise, Overdeliver by owlstead · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, the author really thought that the label making industry is going to take over the world. Must I spell it out? H.U.M.O.R. Sheesh, do you want it more explicit? Next time we'll underline the humorous parts for you. Isn't there a "pun-intended" tag somewhere.

      Ok, I'll stop before half of slashdot is my enemy :)

    5. Re:Underpromise, Overdeliver by shigelojoe · · Score: 2, Funny

      Tagline seen on the cover of next month's "Linux Today":

      Labelling: It's the new 'blog'!

  6. This software sounds great... by teamhasnoi · · Score: 5, Funny
    as I never get mod points.

    Now I can just print out my own!

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  7. Sorry, I'm still working on those labels by underpar · · Score: 4, Funny

    As a geek girl and former clerk I can say that it's really awesome to have software that gives me time to do things other than work. Labels are the most obnoxious thing to make, too. To quote Homer (guess which one): I hate them SO MUCH!

    1. Re:Sorry, I'm still working on those labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      As a geek girl, you theoretically don't exist.

    2. Re:Sorry, I'm still working on those labels by glwtta · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wait, a geek what?

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    3. Re:Sorry, I'm still working on those labels by ShortSpecialBus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Your homepage hits probably jumped up by a factor of 1000 of everybody clicking it hoping for pictures of you...

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  8. Wrong link by lovemayo · · Score: 5, Informative

    its not kbarcode.org, but kbarcode.net

  9. barcodes == MP3 by ChipMonk · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since a barcode is merely a specialized format for binary data (similar to a hard drive's RLL, in fact), I'm sure it's a matter of time until someone figures out how to transfer audio data to a print medium, for later retrieval via barcode scanner.

    I know a hobbyist magazine back in the '80s used to print entire programs in barcode format. I think it was for the old Radio Shack Model 100 laptop.

  10. Another Win App bites the dust by Technician · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's great. I've been using an inexpensive program that's called Labels Unlimited 2 that did a great job handeling graphics, bar codes, database, and serial number functions. That's one less reason to keep a Win box. Now if only they can get National Geographic Back Roads Explorer and the state series TOPO maps ported...

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  11. Destined to be the most popular native app? by curiosity · · Score: 3, Funny

    If that's true, I think I see the problem with Linux on the Desktop.

    It's a friggin label maker. Jesus. Why is this on NewsForge, much less the front page of Slashdot. Wasn't there a dupe you could have posted instead?

    1. Re:Destined to be the most popular native app? by underpar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You've never had a mindlessly boring desk job have you? It may not be cool, but it may be very popular with those assigned the most tedious tasks in the office. That's normally a girl, by the way. Anyway, it is a dull story. It still makes me happy, though.

  12. Linux_Rulzorz.lbl by Psymunn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, i can proclaim my OS suppiriority by... printing up a label.
    And, what's more, the label can mention just how unfeasable it would have been to have it's self created had it's creator not been using everyones favorite GTK based desktop
    Or... you know... maybe the whole linux labeling community is a dead idea before it starts...

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  13. No mp3s on labels? by mikeophile · · Score: 3, Funny
    Damn, that sucks.


    I was so looking forward to dusting off the old CueCat and listening to some tracks with it.

  14. "beta" or "ready"? by mi · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It's still in beta status, but it's ready for prime time

    Sorry, you can't have it both ways. Nope.

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    1. Re:"beta" or "ready"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's still in beta status, but it's ready for prime time

      Sorry, you can't have it both ways. Nope.


      Think 'Windows'.

    2. Re:"beta" or "ready"? by blmatthews · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't see how that applies, Windows is neither in beta status nor ready for prime time. ;-)

  15. Uh Oh by gooman · · Score: 5, Funny

    I sense great hostility in the crowd...
    Quick! Someone post some SCO news.

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  16. Mac OS X? by jjh37997 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So where's the native Mac OS X version? Or will it run natively within the Mac OS X compile of GNOME?

  17. I like gLabels by steveha · · Score: 4, Informative

    I recently used it to mass-print a bunch of name badges on name badge stock in my laser printer.

    I have also used it for labels; you can print just a few labels from a sheet, by specifying which label to start printing upon. So, if you have a sheet of labels, and you have used up the first 11, you can tell gLabels to start printing labels on the 12th label on the sheet. It's slick.

    Finally, this is just the thing for address labels on a dedicated mini-label printer. I don't have that set up yet, but I intend to soon.

    Someone asked why you can't just use OpenOffice for your labels; I want to have OpenOffice print by default to my laser printer, and gLabels by default print to the mini labels-only printer. I wouldn't object to OpenOffice knowing how to pass labels off to the mini-label printer too, of course.

    steveha

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  18. Barcodes? MP3's? time for some self promotion! by Flat+Feet+Pete · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I made this to play my mp3's. Description from the site:

    There's two main parts.

    • A set of business-card-sized cards that represent the music album collection.
    • A webcam in a harness that the card can be slotted into.

    Each card is printed sideways with album cover art, artist, title and track listing. A barcode on both sides of the card uniquely identifies it. When inserted the PC analyzes the image to pick out the barcode. The barcode is linked to a playlist, which is played when the card is inserted.

  19. Um... by Aeiri · · Score: 5, Funny

    just about anything but MP3 tracks can be printed on them

    So it prints OGG & AVI files then?

    1. Re:Um... by WeblionX · · Score: 2, Funny

      The AVI can only be printed if it's one frame long, though. They hope once the resolution of printers go up, they can add support for larger videos.

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  20. Label Making Itch by Eberlin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I must admit, I never had the itch to make labels in linux. Not that big of a fan, really, but I do see the need for it. (labels, that is)

    People will dismiss this project as a pointless waste of time, but I do believe it has its merits. If nothing else, think of it as something shiny to attract new users...or at least give them more of a cushion when they switch OS. (you don't usually switch because of apps as much as you DON'T switch because of a lack of apps)

    We've seen lots of craptastic freeware/shareware stuff for Windows. Heck, back when I watched TechTV more, they had free files featured to do anything you didn't want to do to begin with. All I'm saying here is that it's a Good Thing(TM) to have apps created for linux.

    Give us a GUI that does a batch mogrify on a folder of images. Give us more cute little penguins dancing on the screen. Give us something that does random "at" jobs to play random soundbytes to annoy others. Give us Elf Bowling. Give us whatever you fancy to write.

    In the end, hack away to your heart's content. Write code, give code, learn from code. I can't look any of you coders in the eyes and say "you're wasting your time." Instead I say keep up the good work and keep churning good code.

  21. Very useful to the right people by strider3700 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I see lots of jokes about barcodes software and how ground breaking it is being made here. It's obvious that the people making those jokes don't work in retail software.
    I write Point of sale and inventory management software and good easy handling of barcodes is a huge thing with customers, even if it is relatively boring software wise. Programs like this may seem like nothing but they will go a long way towards linux acceptance in key non server locations.

    RFID may be the new hotness but barcodes still rule the retail world.

  22. What I need is a *reader* by no_such_user · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Printing labels is the easy part. Reading them is another story. In a perfect world, I'd be able to use a run-of-the-mill webcam to read barcodes put in front of it in any direction. While there are a few commercial apps which do this, they're expensive and (after playing with a couple demos) not all that accurate.

    If anyone has any leads on a good OSS (or even just cheap -- this is for personal use) solution, please post!

  23. Wow, labels AND cards! by PhysicsGenius · · Score: 3, Funny
    This will definitely edge out ***MOZILLA*** as the Linux's most popular app because hardly anyone wants to view webpages.

    Do I use glabels? Yes. Do I like glabels? Do I mention glabels as a Premier Application when I talk about Linux? No.

    1. Re:Wow, labels AND cards! by Deusy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This will definitely edge out ***MOZILLA*** as the Linux's most popular app because hardly anyone wants to view webpages.

      What is it with people being assholes today? I know it's /. but really, today just seems worse than normal.

      Nobody said it would become the most popular native Linux app, or that it would usurp things like Mozilla. The comment was it would be "one of the most popular native Linux apps" and has to be taken in context; that gLabels will become the de facto standard for things like label, card, CD-art, and flier design, and maybe even DTP too if it gets extended a little.

      Nobody called it a web browser. Nobody said it would be more popular or more used than Mozilla. But if it comes with installed with every distro and is pointed to as the leading application for it's niche (which isn't as tiny as you think; I know people who spend ages making their CDs pretty or creating fliers for events they organise) then surely it has become "one of the most popular" applications out of the hundreds of thousands of applications out there, most of which people have to search out rather than have put in front of them.

      Do I use glabels? Yes. Do I like glabels? Do I mention glabels as a Premier Application when I talk about Linux? No.

      If somebody talked about needing to do something gLabels excels at, would you suggest anything else?

      'Nuff said.

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    2. Re:Wow, labels AND cards! by mcpkaaos · · Score: 2

      What is it with people being assholes today?

      Did you even read your initial post? You point the finger at your parent poster's supposed ignorance, then complain when a little sarcasm is thrown your way?

      Are you that much of a sissy? Get real, man. If you can't take it, don't click submit in the first place.

      And yeah, I freely admit I'm an asshole. Every day.

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  24. I hope that it improved by DeadSea · · Score: 3, Informative
    When I last tried glabels a few months ago it has some pretty serious image quality problems. The templates were plentiful and well defined. The editing was intuitive and easy. However I could never get the images to come out printed well.

    The problem seemed to be two-fold:

    1. Image scaling seemed to be done using linear interpolation. Sorry, but that doesn't cut it for anything that should have presentation. All the lines come out with jaggies. Use bi-cubic please.
    2. Printing was done at 72dpi. Hello, my printer is 1200 dpi, can you please take advantage of it?
    In my experience, it did a great job of easily producing poor quality labels. Anybody know if these issues have been resolved in the current version?
    1. Re:I hope that it improved by Trogre · · Score: 4, Funny

      Printing was done at 72dpi. Hello, my printer is 1200 dpi, can you please take advantage of it?

      You're getting dpi and dpi confused.

      Your 1200dpi printer can only print black (or CMY) dots on a (usually) white background. You see, it needs to use all those 1200 dots per inch to render halftones, so that if you stand back far enough an area will look kind of like the approximated colour and not just a collection of dots.

      These labels are formatted at 72 dpi. That's 72 full-colour 24-bit fully-toned dots per inch, not a collection of dots that differ only in size.

      There is a formula somewhere that converts perceived dpi to perceived dpi, but I can't recall it...

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    2. Re:I hope that it improved by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
      DPI = dots per inch = DPI. Not too tough to figure out.

      You, sir, did not understand what the parent meant. Although his post was a bit confusing, he was right to some extent. Let's try to rephrase that:

      monochrome dots per inch != perceived full-color dots per inch

      Basically, your printer is using lots of small monochrome dots in each of the 3, 4, 6 or whatever number of colors that it supports. These small dots are not seen individually by the eye, but are perceived as bigger dots with mixed colors. In that case, a 24-bit picture at 72 DPI may require a 1200 DPI printer if you do not want to lose quality.

      That being said, I think that defaulting to 72 DPI is a poor choice. This may be suitable for printing photos on medium-quality labels, but is not appropriate if you want to include high-resolution graphics to be printed in high-quality lablels. Especially if your graphics are mostly monochrome and do not have color gradients, etc. You will lose a lot on the edges.

  25. Just as well... by curne · · Score: 3, Funny

    just about anything but MP3 tracks can be printed on them

    Just as well. I wouldn't use it if it supported MP3 and not Ogg Vorbis... :-)

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  26. Business uses by RogL · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Have you ever dealt with (non-IT) businesspeople? I've been in offices where every person in sales/accounting/billing had a dedicated label printer on their desk, for shipping labels / packaging / general mail / whatever. Think about what "most popular" means: not "earthshaking", not "technically brilliant"; try reading it as "most commonly used" or "widespread". Yes, some people print labels every 5-10 minutes as part of their job. It's a handy niche to fill.

  27. Works like a charm by Starky · · Score: 4, Interesting
    There are many /.ers that are wondering what the big deal is. The big deal is that this is one of those simple applications you don't realize you need until you need it. Then you realize that you really need it.


    After I recently finished my Ph.D., I put together over 70 job market packets. For both appearances and efficiency, I needed to generate labels by the dozen.


    Much to my surprise, there was an ebuild of gLabels for Gentoo. Even more to my surprise, even though it's in beta, it worked flawlessly. The interface was so well done that I never even needed to look for help files.


    Kudos to the gLabels team!

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  28. Re:Very useful to the right people-Printers. by strider3700 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We don't use windows or linux and would kill for the hardware support of either OS.

    The majority of readers we use operate off of a keyboard wedge. Nothing special there it just fakes keystrokes.

    As for the printers it's usually just a case of pumping through the correct control codes to get what you want out. We use barcode blasters and the code required to get one barcode with say an item description, and price is maybe 20 lines. It's easy and the codes are always included with the printer or on the website documentation. Perhaps I should take the time to adding support for the printers I have access to.

    Now the more advanced stuff, USB scanners and printers may require more work but I doubt it can be that hard.

  29. You don't get it. by iantri · · Score: 4, Insightful
    For those who are saying "Bah! What good is this? Just use OpenOffice," you don't get it.

    OpenOffice (nor Corel Wordperfect or MS Word) are acceptable substitues for a real label making program -- have many Slashdotters ever bothered to try and print out CD labels or covers/trays to pre-scored stock (like the Avery media available)? Futzing around with templates in Word Processors sucks -- they are designed for linear text. Publishing apps are a little better, but there is nothing like the right tool for the job.

    A program like Avery DesignPro or Surething CD Labeller for Windows makes producing such things very quick and painless.. it is good that this sort of thing is now available under Linux.

    The reason (well, one of them at least), that Linux lacks as a desktop is BECAUSE of the lack of useful tools like this; answers like "You don't really need a (label-making program, greeting card maker, etc.), just use OOo" or "You don't need a WYSIWYG HTML editor, just use vi" completely miss the point.

    BTW, I, for one, could really use a good greeting card program, like Sierra Print Artist. Does any such thing exist?

  30. non-hacker speaks! Was:Underpromise, Overdeliver by thomasj · · Score: 3, Insightful
    That made me wonder about the maturity of linux as a desktop platform, even more than before.

    I'd just assume there would be a way to print envelopes/labels from linux. Even if it was an OO.o template, or some such. It's a fairly simple task.

    Sad. Wake me when they come up with the calculator or cardfile clones.

    I always wonder what this kind of people wants with Linux. Linux is what we, the hackers, makes it; what is in Linux is what comes from programming nice things.

    So, what you say is: "Please make Linux nice as I like it! I will go to sleep and you do the hacking. Once in a while I will wake up, whine and curse, and then go back to sleep!"

    Linux is not free as in "comes out of a tap". Some people make these things. You don't pay them money, but you should pay some homage and respect; or please go away!

    (As a child I was a cap scout. When we went on field camps we made all sorts of cool things out of wood and stones and some rope. We were all thrilled by the things we could do ourselves. But there was this guy who basically missed his TV and his comfort zone. He didn't help and he critized everything. I guess he didn't get why all the jokes were on him. He should never have been a scout anyway...)

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