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Big Brother Awards for Privacy Invaders

Dozix007 writes "The Register reports that the shortlist for this year's Big Brother awards for nasty privacy invaders has been released. The awards include: Worst Public Servant, Most Invasive Company, Most Appalling Project, Most Heinous Government Organisation and Lifetime Menace Award - now renamed the David Blunkett Lifetime Menace Award. Pressure group Privacy International, which organises the awards, said it was overwhelmed by nominations for Blunkett, the Home Office and national ID cards but they had been recognised in previous years."

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  1. I didn't believe I could win! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    But I'd like to thank my parents, George W. Bush, that Senator that beat me after he died, Bob Jones University, Muslims all over the world, and of course God, for making this possible!

    John Ashcroft

    1. Re:I didn't believe I could win! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      and of course God, for making this possible! -- John Ashcroft

      1. It's a British site, so you're not nominated.

      2. Look up Matthew 25:12. I always get blamed for things I had nothing to do with....

      God

  2. Website, Awards and Justice by mfh · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is the website for The 2004 UK Big Brother Awards, for those of you who want to skip over that puny Register article. My thoughts on this subject is that it's a great idea to shine a huge spotlight on those who would infringe upon privacy, to give them a taste of their own medicine. Of course I don't condone tapping their phones, blackmailing the execs or sending boxes of poo to their doors (like on Six Feet Under's recent arc). This award show will do just fine, in an almost biblical manner of sinning the sinner.

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  3. I know... by Zorak+Man · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sure MS will be on that list. They managed to get an OS on my computer that I didn't want.

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  4. We Need One of These for the USA by burdicda · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Where is the US equivilent ????

    1. Re:We Need One of These for the USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      The US equivalent is here:
      http://www.privacyinternational.org/bigbrot her/us2 004/

    2. Re:We Need One of These for the USA by sirdude · · Score: 3, Informative
      It's called a hy-per-link... :P

      Bigbrother USA 2004

  5. Spoilt for choice... by eamacnaghten · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The judges are simply spoilt for choice here. It would cost a fortune to manufacture the number of awards needed...

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  6. Just a thought... by Munelight · · Score: 5, Funny

    "If you are interested in attending the awards you need to register at UKBBA@privacy.org"

    I wonder if you have to give them your real name. :)

  7. Spread them around! by JohnFromCanada · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I had never heard of this list however the more publicity it sees the more awareness it raises. It is very interesting and I am not currently using any products from any of the mentioned companies and will now know to avoid them in the future. If more lists like this were in the popular media, companies would be at least held a little more accountable for there actions by those customers who care about such issues and do not have the time to gather the information about them elsewhere.

  8. The Title by Zorilla · · Score: 3, Funny

    News Article Title: Big Brother Awards for Privacy Invaders

    What's wrong with this title, people?

    "Hello, Big Brother? I'd like to report YOU! Oh, hang on, there's somebody at my door."

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  9. whois david_blunkett by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    David Blunkett. British politician, now in charge of Homeland Security for the U.K. I'm sure that in spirit it would be translated to the "John Ashcroft Lifetime Award" for U.Sians, but the position Blunkett holds is probably more akin to Tom Ridge's.

    1. Re:whois david_blunkett by MancDiceman · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, not quite. He's in charge of the Home Office. The Home Office is not like "Homeland Security". It's much, much, MUCH bigger than that. Homeland Security is basically the equivalent of MI5/Special Branch which whilst coming under the juridstciotn of the Home Office is tiny in comparison to the rest of the organisation.

      Think of it this way - you have lots of functions that are carried out by various ministries - the MoD looks after Defence, the Foreign Office sorts out diplomatic affairs (and intelligence agencies), Dept of Health looks after the NHS, etc., etc.

      Anything that is left over, goes to the Home Office. This includes all law enforcement (at all levels), part stake in MI5, and anything else nobody else is prepared to take responsibility for. It is a MASSIVE department, dwarfing every other UK government department.

      Blunkett, whilst in charge of the Home Office has introduced some interesting laws. Nearly all of them specifically remove civil liberties from the UK citizen, and he has announced an ID card that will eventually replace driver's licenses, passports, etc. and will carry biometric data. A corresponding matchup of the data is held on government computers, it's use is ill-defined, in short, it's a hideous idea that is being lobbied for by a company that stands to make a lot of money out of it.

  10. list of co's/orgs that sell your info to marketers by scupper · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'd like to see an annual list of organizations, companies, banks, utilities that sell your address and phone numer to marketers. I expect if I sign up for a "club card" at Safeway or some other retailer, that my info is potentially up for grabs, but when I signed up with Sierra Club, my junk mail exponentially grew, and I OPTED OUT!! of the sharing info option. I think they probably kill more trees than they save. I've received 3 renewal notices from them since February of this year, and my membership expires in August!

  11. Most Invasive Company - LloydsTSB ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The bank insists "that customers report to a branch with documents to prove their identities".

    The article does not explain under what circumstances the bank requires this, perhaps to open an account.

    So why is this invasive? Would the judges rather have the bank naively believe anything a potential con-artist tells them over the phone?

    In this age of identity theft, this might be a bank to consider. Apparently, they take a persons true identity seriously.

    1. Re:Most Invasive Company - LloydsTSB ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Details here. They were trying to freeze the money of an existing customer which by law he is entitled to on demand.

  12. Ok, one question ... by spellraiser · · Score: 4, Funny

    Contenders for Worst Public Servant are Margaret Hodge for her support for a database of children and "good behaviour" orders for children as young as eight.

    So, how come Santa Claus is not on the shortlist? Let's put that #1 record keeper in the world on a list for a change. Let's see how he likes the taste of his own medicine!

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  13. Re:Privacy in the UK? by Spad · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They hardly track my every move - they're primarily used after the fact to identify people or to follow people attempting to evade the police.

    They're all in public places, I have no expectation of privacy in a public place and I'm not committing any offences, it really doesn't bother me.

    The nation ID card, OTOH, is a minor problem for the government - at last count almost 80% of population were against them and 30% said that they would go to prison rather than carry the card (Numbers subject to statistics).

  14. Re:list of co's/orgs that sell your info to market by maximilln · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Did you check the option to opt-out of the list of opt-out people? Did you check the list to mark your information as inherited opt-out? You know, if you give your info to the marketing division, they might share it with the collections division, who might share it with the membership division, and somewhere along the line the "private" bit on your data didn't line up in the database, and someone in the corporate affairs insurance services division closes a deal on 50,000 new leads. :)

    I've always been suspicious of that opt-out crap, too. Like all the spam mail that says "click here to be (re)moved from the list". Removed from one list, added to another.

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  15. Your mistake: by gr3y · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Never give a charity with no purpose your address.

    I once gave my address to The March of Dimes Foundation, but that was a mistake.

    At present, the only charity with my current address is the local NPR affiliate, and they haven't abused it to my knowledge.

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  16. And the winner of the irony award... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Anyone notice that you have to register in order to attend the event? Other than filling the organization's mailing list, what's the legitimate purpose for making privacy advocates identify themselves?

    I think they should take a look in the mirror.

  17. Re:Privacy in the UK? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Dude, you have to pay a television tax. People go around with antennaes in hand and vans to observe what households have televisions running and whether or not they've paid their television tax. ...in exchange for which they get television which (hold on to your hat here) **doesn't suck**.

  18. Re:Privacy in the UK? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No. They don't have vans and shit, that is just scare tactics.

    What they do is monitor who buys TVs, and if someone buys a new TV that doesn't have a TV license, they pay them a visit. I know I had to give my name and address when I bought my TV and that was for TV licensing purposes (it isn't a tax, more like a mandatory TV subscription, the price isn't that bad now with several channels and radio stations, as well as the website and interactive stuff being paid by the fee, but 10 years ago the BBC was really badly managed financially).

    For that, we get advert-free television that is meant to be politically unbiased. It doesn't have any pressures from advertisers at least. OTOH it sucks when you want to have a piss and there are no ad breaks.

    The cameras aren't observing *me*. Yet. And they are only in city centres and shopping centres for the main part.

  19. Re:Privacy in the UK? by thumperward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If by "your every move" you mean "your every move in busy urban areas" you'd be half-right. This is, of course, nothing like 1984.

    There is overwhelming public support for cameras in city centres. As a nation of Crimewatch viewers, Brits see cameras (rightly) as aiding their safety rather than as an evil gummit mind-control scheme.

    Seriously, there's nothing like misplaced ideology to mess up a country's administration. An absolute right to privacy in public is every bit as bad for the general public as the police state is.

    - Chris

  20. Re:Privacy in the UK? by tanguyr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There was a pretty interesting bit on the BBC ("car wars" i think) that showed how london police cars are fitted with cameras that automatically scan car registrations and will notify the PC if it spots a vehicle with either outstanding tickets or no insurance. Despite some false positives, it seemed to work pretty well.

    CCTV raised a lot of concerns when it was first rolled out, but now that it's here people seem to have accepted it - even more, people seem to appreciate it given the added sense of security and the positive effect on violent crime rates. Still, before we all get all warm and cuddly, we should remember that, at the end of the day, it's a system for surveillance of the general public. Just because the people jogging the joystick today aren't abusing it (it even caught that shocking bit of police brutality in Manchester a while back) doesn't mean the next bunch won't.

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  21. Re:Privacy in the UK? by meringuoid · · Score: 3, Funny
    Britons live in Orwell's 1984 made flesh.

    Now, come on... Britain in 1984 was not only a privacy-free surveillance state, it was completely cut off from the rest of Europe and locked into a destructive alliance with the United States. You're exaggerating things enormously here.

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  22. no nO NO by Ender+Ryan · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The cameras you speak of are only in public areas, where there is simply no expectation of privacy at all anyway. Is a camera somehow more invasive than other people? Maybe a little, by the fact that it makes a (near) perfect, permanent recording, whereas peoples' memories are "fuzzy." It is also more invasive by the fact that the government is doing it, although police walk around in public areas too, so...

    No, 1984 would require surveilance in the privacy of your own home, tracking your sexual habits, hobbies, et cetera. Keeping track of everywhere you go, your political opinions, and taking action against you for them. It will be 1984 when your television records YOU.

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  23. Re:Privacy in the UK? by flibuste · · Score: 3, Insightful

    France have had personal ID cards for years and really, I don't see where it is a privacy problem.
    Moreover, it proved so much useful (sic!) that it is no longer mandatory and is now replaced by the use of passeports, which are not mandatory to have, unless you want to travel outside the country.
    In North-America, people use your driving license as an ID card. So can somebody explain why having ID cards is a problem in the first place, whatever kind of ID it is?

  24. I love the BBC by poofyhairguy82 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    it isn't a tax, more like a mandatory TV subscription

    and let me take the opportunity to thank all of you Britons for pay this fee to keep the BBC around. As an American, I trust the BBC news more than any organization; especially for news about American.

    Also I love fun comedies like The Office. Jolly good show!

  25. The real big brother awards link... by RALE007 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The link in the description is only an article at the register.com. The actual website for the US awards can be found here and links for big brother awards for other nations can be found here.

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  26. Privacy invasion? by bairy · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Well, no. You're leaving a public comment on a public website in the knowledge it may be moderated. It's gonna be logged whether it's summarised on a neat page or not, so no.

    The alternative is to not have mod points and although most people don't agree with the odd moderation, they are a great way to filter out the idiots.

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  27. Re:Privacy in the UK? by Long-EZ · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I've noticed a lot of UK citizens are not bothered by the massive amount of government surveilance. They offer the same reasons that I've heard in the US. "The cameras are in public places where there is no expectation of privacy." "I'm not doing anything wrong, so I'm not worried about it." "We all feel safer with the government watching everyone." "Crime rates decrease."

    But nobody seems to realize it's a slippery slope, or at least nobody is talking about it. Governments, by their very nature, become more powerful and subsume the rights of individual citizens. Did it occur to you that your government decided they wanted mandatory national ID cards with biometric data after everyone so easily rolled over on the issue of nearly constant surveilance?

    An equilibrium will be established between people's demand for individual rights and people's acquiescence of those rights under the (usually mistaken) belief that they will be more secure. The UK citizens have given up more rights than US citizens, but we're on the same path. The US Supreme Court recently decided that citizens can be required to identify themselves when asked by police officers, which reminds me of old movies with Nazis demanding, "Your papers please." Cameras are an increasing part of everyday life in the US. Not so much at the government level, although many urban intersections have cameras spying on us, nominally under the guise of traffic enforcement. But many businesses large and small are installing cameras that not only record images from the business property, but also in the public and private areas in the vicinity.

    I value my privacy, and I resent the invasion of it. I DO have some expectation that I can walk down the street without my every move being recorded. And yes, I'm willing to surrender some degree of security, either real or imagined, for that modicum of privacy. I do NOT believe the government has the right to spy on me, simply because I'm not doing anything wrong. Universal surveilance seems to be based on the presumption of guilt. Why else would the government watch everybody, unless it's to catch the citizens whom it presumes to be guilty?

    Crime has many complex social causes. It cannot be cured by restricting people's rights. At every point, the goverment assures the citizens, "If you just give up one more right, we'll make you safe." As soon as the citizens accept the loss of that right, there is the government asking for another. "If everyone would carry national ID cards with biometric data.... If only we had a national DNA database.... If only all citizens took government supplied mind control drugs...."

    If fear of a criminal element is the lever used by government to obtain power from the people, why would anyone think the government will ultimately be successful in reducing crime? In the US, crime rates are highest in the areas where rights are restricted the most. Whether crime or the loss of rights came first is a subject of intense debate, but the correlation between crime and the loss of individual rights is not seriously debated by anyone. I think in most cases, a breakdown in the social fabric resulted in crime, then the government used people's fear of crime to restrict citizen's rights. But the loss of rights has certainly not resulted in lower crime rates. In many cases, the loss of some rights have resulted in a documented and obvious INCREASE in crime.

    You want less crime? Invest in education and a fair and prosperous economy, then wait a generation. Short term fixes like registering citizens, heavy surveilance, and the general loss of rights are not the answer.

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