More Classic NES Titles For GBA Announced
Thanks to Nintendojo for its list of the latest NES titles to be re-released on the Game Boy Advance in Japan. Though "it remains to be seen if any of these particular games will make it to North America", highlights include "Super Mario Bros. 2 [Japanese version], Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, Metroid, Kid Icarus, [and] Castlevania." We've previously covered earlier NES Classic iterations - in a similar vein to a recent GameSpy article, how many dollars would you actually spend on these NES re-releases for GBA?
If they were bundled as a 5 game cart.
in a similar vein to a recent GameSpy article, how many dollars would you actually spend on these NES re-releases for GBA?
Around $100 USD...enough to buy a decent flash ROM and linker. I owned all these games, I'm not buying the exact same game again. I rebuy VHS on DVD because a) the quality is better, b) I always hated rewinding. I don't have that problem here.
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I was poor and only owned a few games and rented the rest, as well as didnt get a NES untill SM3 came out, I would buy these games simply cause i didnt get them and would rather play them on my gameboy than my NES....
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You unlock the classic Metroid when you beat Metroid Zero for the GBA already.
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Worth mentioning that the GBA is not region restricted, you can play Japanese cartridges on a US gameboy.
Also it's legal (I am not a lawyer) to play NES roms on a GBA through a flash card and emulator if you own the original title.
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It's... basically going to be the same thing as the ZM port, I'm sure, only without the convenient save function and without the requirement of beating a drastically improved version of it.
With Phantasy Star Collection, they crammed the first three Phantasy Star games onto one GBA cart, and had to write two emulators (Sega Master System for I, Sega Genesis for II and III.) For three great games, I spent 20 bucks.
Nintendo, on the other hand, wants me to spend 30 bucks apiece for these games. I find that hard to swallow considering that, even if some of these are amazing games, this series is still just shovelware.
I can't swing my GBA around on it's cord like I did my NES controller when I get frustrated for not making any more ground in Metroid.
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Since I own a copy of Mario All Stars, FF Origins, and Megaman Anniversary Collection, I'm tempted to say i'm all set with NES games for a while. Truthfully though, I'd love to see new releases of Castlevania/Castlevania 3, Contra, and/or Ducktales 1. I wouldn't be willing to pay $30 though. Plus there's the fact that I don't own a GBA yet, but that's my own fault. I think if I did, I'd either buy a flash card and emulate, or I'd be playing something along the lines of pokemon or golden sun. I think if they came out with a good version of FF VI though I could be swayed to buy one and pay another $30 for the cart.
Maybe it was more popular in the states, but I'm suprised that Mega Man (Rock Man in Japan) wasn't listed at all. Good to see Castlevania in the mix, but this collection really needs more Konami/Ultra titles like Contra, Jackal, TMNT and Metal Gear.
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Kid Icarus? I'm sorry, but that game has the most obnoxious music in *any* NES title ever created. Why anyone would subject themselves to reliving that I'll never know.
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Game Boy Advance....$100
Ports of really old games for a system you haven't played for 10 years....$25 ea.
Knowing Nintendo will never see another dime from this kid with an emulator....priceless.
Super Mario Bros 1, on the other hand, has only seen four major releases on any system (NES, SNES(Mario All-Stars), GBC(Super Mario Bros. DX), and GBA(NES Classic).) They probably haven't been whoring it as much due to the fact that it doesn't really stand up as well in this day and age next to later games. Not that I'd be surprised if the next Mario Advance game was a port of the All-Stars version of SMB1.
For a long time now, I've been wanting to build a somewhat better solution to portable than a GBA. Something that plays all sorts of games for the NES, SNES, GB/GBC, GBA via emulators. Something that could do light word processing and coding, have builtin networking (wireless or not), be able to do some SSH work. Think a tiny Linux box built into something like a PS2 gamepad with a 3-4" screen sticking out and with a D-pad and 10 buttons.
Closest I've come to actually building it is researching a few SBCs at www.tri-m.com and a few LCDs.
Those with an e-Reader (not many) and those with Animal Crossing for GameCube (probably a few more), can already get many of these games onto their GBAs rather easily - same quality as well, if I'm not mistaken. I know Balloon Fight and Donkey Kong are available as well as a couple others that have been rereleased - they should have marketed the e-Reader/AC connections better. And anyone with Metroid Fusion/ZeroMission/Prime can get the original Metroid on either GBA or GameCube.
You can play these games in emulators, of course, but my real interest is playing them on a TV- with the GameCube GBP, you can do that. The GameCube essentially becomes a proxy for all your Nintendo platforms that way, which is a bit easier to handle in terms of video switches :-)
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I would be willing to pay $50 if the whole series were on one cartridge, or at the very least 5 games per cartridge. But I feel like I'm being ripped off in them charging $20 a game for games that in many cases I already own a copy of.
That's my disappointment in this whole thing. Really what I'd like to see is a GameCube disc with every NES game on it. They could get away with charging $100 for it, too, and I would probably get it.
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Don't forget that Super Mario Bros. appears in Animal Crossing on the Gamecube along with a few other NES games. Note that the game can be downloaded onto a GBA using the link cable.
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With the demise of the eReader goes the Game-N-Watch series of cards, which I had really been looking foward to, even if they were released in the silly collectable format like the Animal Crossing eCards.
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I will instantly buy at full price GBA versions of:
1. Civilisation
2. Risk
3. Gunstar Heroes
I work at a used video game store, and the price on these classic NES games is nothing but a joke!
It is quite funny to see a new copy of Pac-Man World (or whatever they call the collection of six or seven pac-man games) sitting next to "Classic NES Pac-Man" for the exact same price!
Also, someone also pointed out Metroid Zero contains itself AND Metroid, what would compel someone to buy JUST Metroid? I cannot believe that Nintendo can sell these games, the only one worth buying is the Legend of Zelda one.
Finally, even if the games were priced correctly (in my mind, that would be somewhere around 8 dollars, or a four on a game pak for 20 dollars) they still dont feel like the NES. The screen proportion feels a bit off, and the controls seem just a little bit sloppy. I would just suggest shelling out the 30 dollars for a NES deck and the pocket change for the games. Not only will you have more fun, but isn't "retro" cool and hip these days?
Take a look at Nintendojo's source. The-Magicbox clearly states:
- UNCONFIRMED: Nintendo will release the next batch of Famicom Mini titles for GameBoy Advance in Japan on August 10, for 2000 yen each. The 3rd volume will contain 10 classic Famicom Disk System games...
While I'm sure it's a plausible rumour, it's still a rumour.
I personally hope it's true, I've always wanted to try the 8 bit version of the Lost Levels. It's a shame they didn't re-release Super Mario DX on GBA with its bigger screen and possibility of scaling down the original gameplay. I thought the challenge modes were quite fun. Sadly, I was never good enough to unlock the Lost Levels.
The Lost Levels did make it to the US in pirate cart form, back in the day. From what I understand, a lot of places were renting them out. But, Nintendo did a good job of making sure something like that didn't happen again. I always wanted one =(
I think's it's somewhat ironic, that emulation and piracy probably had a big hand in Nintendo's current love affair with NES rereleases. Few have fought harder to fight piracy and emulation than Nintendo, but one can argue that emulation and piracy proved the existence of the market they are now happily mining. I don't think they'd have been as willing to risk this without that proof.
This is no endorsement of piracy, but I suspect that piracy rates are just another tick on the marketing meter for measuring a game's popularity. As for the price of these classics, well $20 isn't too bad, but they should IMHO be more like $9.99 unless they come with some decent extras.
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I have about 50 old nes games sitting in my attic. Most or all don't work anymore, and the NES certainly doesn't work.
What did I do? By one of those Flash memory GBA cartridges with a USB link.
I can fit about 35 NES games on one GBA sized cartridge and be able to save at any point during the game. I wouldn't even think of buying these games for $20 a pop.
They have the technology. Release like 20 games a cartridge and charge $50 for them.
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How many dollars would you actually spend on these NES re-releases for GBA?
$20 for 20 Games per cart
Quality is better on these remakes, maybe not much better but it is there.
Second, if you were trying to come up with a good comparison you would have said you bought a DVD recorder and tuner for your computer to dump all of your video to DVD or SVCD.
Well in this case I allready had the Action Replay, and we're talking $25 to unlock the games (plus other usability) vs $20 for each game.
Don't get me wrong - I've already bought Legend of Zelda and would have purchased Super Mario Bros. except that I've already got the SMB DX on the GBC (which has a wonky small view, but has so much more content...)
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I've played many of the old NES and SNES favorites, and own many as well. These still work with my NES or SNES, which are still going strong. There is zero chance I will repurchase and games I currently have for either of these systems.
On the other hand, if Nintendo starts releasing the rehashes for the GBA at the cost I can find working used carts for my NES or SNES they have a winner. That means about $3 for Super Mario 2, $3 for Excitebike, etc. Games I'd like to play again but haven't gotten around to purchasing for my old systems. Heck, make it 150% of that since it's portable and they might have a deal. However Donkey Kong for even $20 makes me really laugh. $5 and I might be tempted, any more and I'll just find the original.
If not now, when?
looking at the japanese page there's serveral releases that are japanese specific (I've forgotten all my kanji, but one of them looks like a dating sim or something). This might explain crap like Pacman and bomberman being released in the states. Nintendo was trying to quickly pad out the US line up with easy to port titles. At least, I can't think of another explanation for yet another release of Pacman and bomberman.
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my real interest is playing them on a TV- with the GameCube GBP, you can do that.
Though the Classic NES series will probably work on the Game Boy Player accessory, there exist several titles for Game Boy systems that won't work on the Game Boy Player:
The GameCube essentially becomes a proxy for all your Nintendo platforms that way, which is a bit easier to handle in terms of video switches
And there's one Nintendo platform with interchangeable games that's still unable to operate on a television, and that's the Virtual Boy. Even a left-eye-only view would suffice to me.
The screen proportion feels a bit off
You're correct. The NES's pixel aspect ratio was 40:33, or 1.212:1, or roughly 6:5. I computed this given the official ITU pixel aspect ratio for digitized NTSC signals (10:11, defined in CCIR 601) and the fact that each screen pixel takes up 2/3 of a color clock. The GBA's pixel aspect ratio, on the other hand, is square; NES screens in both PocketNES (the unofficial emulator) and acNES (the official emulator, used in Animal Crossing and the e-reader) are scaled down such that the pixel aspect ratio is 4:3.
5 per game would be good, 10 would be marginally acceptable, $15 would be the maximum. Now, if only I could take the train to work instead of driving, I might have some time to play them.
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I've actually used save states to challenge myself. I always played Contra with "the code" as a child... I wanted to play it now without dying constantly.... So, every time I died, I'd load a save state from the beginning of the level. This way, I learned how to play the game without dying so much. I'm working on being able to play the entire game without dying. So far, I'm doing pretty well. The next challenge will be to play the game without getting weapon upgrades. ;)
Dude. Get a PocketPC.
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... heck, even playstation emulators for these things.
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WiFi, bluetooth, all kinds of word processing stuff... and my iPaq 2215 supports CF 1/2 and SD/MMC media
There's a SNES emulator out for it that is blazing fast, I'm getting it to play more than full speed now with sound. It's really great.
http://paqpark.nuclearfallout.net/forum/viewtopic
and of course it goes without saying that there are countless gb/nes
Go PocketPC and never look back.
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