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Cardboard WiFi Antenna Upgrade

An anonymous reader writes "A British company called Tritium is marketing a piece of cardboard with metal foil on one side. You order it for under US$25, shipping included, and you get a flat envelope with the cardboard. Cut it out, shape it into a parabola and snap it into the little stand. Then slip it over your current antenna. It is advertised to extend the range of your current antenna by 2 to 3 times. See their website for more information on the cleverly named Tritium Flatenna."

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  1. Hah by dotslashconfig · · Score: 5, Funny

    And you thought tin-foil was just for hats!

    1. Re:Hah by SilentChris · · Score: 2, Funny

      Apparently their server is also made out of cardboard and tinfoil...

    2. Re:Hah by _Sharp'r_ · · Score: 3, Funny


      Then there are the guys who advertise a fool-proof cockroach killer for sale, just send $25, will work every time.

      Of course, what you get is two wooden blocks and instructions that say, place cockroach on first block, smash with second block, repeat as needed.

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  2. Tritium by Metasquares · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's an awfully bad company name to associate with antennas, considering some people are nervous about them to begin with.

    1. Re:Tritium by GoRK · · Score: 3, Informative

      I have some tritium keychains and some watches with tritium in them. The mesuarable dosage that you get from it is nominal compared to background radiation. IE the difference in background radiation exposure between someone living in the mountains and someone living at sea level is greater than the difference in exposure carrying a small amount of tritium with a phosphor coating. You just don't want to eat the stuff. With a half life of about 15 years, tritium will hang around in your body quite a while.

      The main difference here is that there have been many studies on radiation exposure over both short term and long term durations. There have been far fewer studies on the effects of high frequency, low energy RF. When you consider what high frequency, high energy RF and even low frequency high energy RF can do to the human body, it sure makes you wonder if this stuff is safe anyway.

      People this paranoid, however, are definately the target market for this kind of antenna.

      To me, the whole thing reeks a little on the surface of ads proclaiming something 'it's like attaching a four foot antenna to your cell phone!, though the obvious benefit here is that it's an antenna tuned to a specific frequency designed to make an omnidirectional antenna a little more directional. Still when you can make it for about $1 using a ruler, some foil, and some scissors you have to wonder why they are even bothering.

    2. Re:Tritium by Neil+Blender · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You just don't want to eat the stuff. With a half life of about 15 years, tritium will hang around in your body quite a while.

      True, tritium has a half life of about 15 years (closer to 12 though.) However, when it comes to ingesting radioactive material, you need to be more concerned with the biological half-life. That is how fast the material will be excreted from you body. For tritium, it is just over 9 days. For tritium to harm you, you have too ingest a pretty large quantity. I know all about the stuff, I injected it into rats for years.

    3. Re:Tritium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, but their website had a halflife of only about 15 minutes. The irony...

    4. Re:Tritium by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Funny
      I know all about the stuff, I injected it into rats for years.

      I can't decide which kind of rat's eyes are creepier: original blood red reflective glow or new cool green self-illuminated glow.

    5. Re:Tritium by Hatta · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, tritium is a very low power beta emitter. I occasionally work with the stuff, for detecting various biological macromolecules. It takes weeks for the stuff to make an image on photographic film, that's in direct contact with the gel, and soaked in fluorographic enhancer. Our required dosimeters can't even detect the stuff, nor can a geiger counter. We still do periodic wipes and scintillation count them though. It's emissions wont get through your skin. Really the only risk is if you quaff a flask of the stuff.

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    6. Re:Tritium by lost_packet · · Score: 2, Funny
      That's an awfully bad company name to associate with antennas, considering some people are nervous about them to begin with

      are you sure you don't mean Iridium?

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    7. Re:Tritium by fermion · · Score: 2, Funny

      but...but...Tritium is the most valuable material in on earth. There is only 25 pounds of it. I think every new company is going have tritium or some variation of it in thier name. It so exudes power and value.

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    8. Re:Tritium by core+plexus · · Score: 3, Insightful
      "Still when you can make it for about $1 using a ruler, some foil, and some scissors you have to wonder why they are even bothering."

      Anyone can grow their own tomatoes, or search for gold or gemstones, but how many choose instead to buy tomatoes, gold, or gems? Often tomatoes in the grocery taste like wet cardboard and sell for $3.99/pound, which is why I grow my own when I can. But I also search for gold and gemstone deposits. Some are DIY'ers; most are not.

      -cp-

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    9. Re:Tritium by Mr.+Frilly · · Score: 2, Informative

      Depends on the strength of the beta.

      Tritium's beta has a mean of 6KeV... you need a beta with an energy of at least 70KeV to penetrate the dead layer of cells in your skin.

  3. Make your own by webscathe · · Score: 5, Informative

    Or you could just go here and make your own with stuff in your house for under $1.

    1. Re:Make your own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, like someone said, If you glue two pieces of crap together, some $EXPLETIVE_FOO will pay good money for it. (And if you do it in white or aluminium and emboss an apple on it: 500% instant markup! ;) )

      /Consumerus Sapien

    2. Re:Make your own by Saeger · · Score: 2, Funny
      MAKE YOUR OWN? Why you dirty pinko commie! How dare you deprive this glorious capitalistic company the RIGHT TO PROFIT! Won't somebody please think of the GDP?! Go break some windows today!

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  4. This looks strangely like advertisement by Cyb3r · · Score: 5, Insightful

    doesn't it?

    1. Re:This looks strangely like advertisement by gphinch · · Score: 3, Funny

      More like /.ing.

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    2. Re:This looks strangely like advertisement by happyfrogcow · · Score: 2, Funny

      excellent point. i wasn't going to click on the link until now. /., lets do our best!
      click
      click
      click

    3. Re:This looks strangely like advertisement by nizo · · Score: 3, Funny
      so? let's try to keep some dignity to journalism. I am not bred to be an advertisement absorber.

      Luckily I have a paper hat coated with tinfoil that I can sell to you for $19.99 to block out all these kinds of advertisements.

    4. Re:This looks strangely like advertisement by happyfrogcow · · Score: 3, Funny

      Quitcherbitchen != ...

      oh.

  5. Microwave Pizzas by mcgroarty · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microwave pizzas, hot pockets, etc come with foil-backed cardboard underneath. That looks to be the same material -- I'd wager you could cobble something together with those as well. And you'd have something to eat while you're geeking out.

  6. 100mW EIRP limit in the UK by DHR · · Score: 2, Informative

    These would probably put you over the legal limit, if you get more than ~5dBi out of them, which you should. Most cheap consumer gear is 15dBm, so 15+5=20dBm=100mW

    1. Re:100mW EIRP limit in the UK by xchino · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nope, this doesn't change your power rating at all, it increases gain by adding directionality to your omni or dipole antenna. Bounce the signal of the back and to thr front and you've got a higher gain and receive sensitivity w/o modifying power.

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    2. Re:100mW EIRP limit in the UK by kju · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is right and wrong. Ever wondered how an antenna works? Take a look at an yagi antenne: Just metal and some wires. Do you believe this includes some secret powered power amp?

      What this Cardboard does is the same as every antenne with gain does: It focus the beam into a specific direction, which will "amplify" the effective radiated power in this direction. And effective radiated power (EIRP) happens to be, whats regulated.

      So this cardboard is bound to the same regulations as any directional antenna.

  7. Second use by Tokerat · · Score: 5, Funny

    A British company called Tritium is marketing a piece of cardboard with metal foil on one side.
    If you don't have Wi-Fi, these also make excellent hats.
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    1. Re:Second use by snowblind · · Score: 2, Funny

      Only if you're a garden gnome.

  8. Finally, a use for tinfoil hats ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    just turn it inside out, insert over antenna, viola 10 mpbs and encrypted ...

    1. Re:Finally, a use for tinfoil hats ... by SoTuA · · Score: 4, Funny
      viola 10 mpbs and encrypted ...

      I'd rather have an unencrypted cello at 22mbps, but that's just me...

      (so THAT's how burning karma smells!)

  9. feedback by cmoressi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is this at all dangerous? Any modification like this is bound to cause signal feedback. Seems like it might work for receiving but I would hesitate to use it to xmit.

  10. Let the price wars begin! by glowfish · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'll offer the same thing for $22.50! Shipping included! and um, I'll throw in a free yahoo e-mail account to boot!

    Beat that!

    1. Re:Let the price wars begin! by MachDelta · · Score: 4, Funny

      $19.95 for a tinfoil antenna booster, with a free tinfoil hat for ordering now! The first 15 customers will get a bonus mint (I found some under my bed). Price includes shipping, and one of those tiny bags of potato chips.
      Everyone knows you can't beat something thats "all that and a bag of potato chips!"

  11. In other news... by dotslashconfig · · Score: 4, Funny

    I tried this once. People called it "fraud", though... they were so disappointed when they saw the Staples price sticker still on the cardboard and tin-foil.

    Just goes to show you, those British folk can get away with anything! :)

    Anyways... back to planning my quest for world dominaton using nothing more than a stick of gum and a paperclip.

    1. Re:In other news... by SpookyFish · · Score: 4, Funny

      This one is right up there with the little ads in the back of magazines (like Popular Science) several years ago:

      "Genuine Copper Bust of Abraham Lincoln -- only $9.99!"

      And the lucky purchaser received a nice envelope containing a small cardboard stand -- and a penny.

      They were *unsuccessfully* sued for fraud.
      Caveat emptor!

  12. Oh Crap by T-Kir · · Score: 2, Funny

    Damn that summary...

    Cut it out, shape it into a parabola and snap it into the little stand. Then slip it over your

    ARGGHHH, but I really have the urge to say 'HEAD'.

    Damn you tinfoil hat posters, damn you to hell and back damn blast and double damn.

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  13. Great, but.. by noname3 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Does it work? Yes, this advertises a boost, but so do a bunch of products for cell phones that are purely decorative.

    I had to sell these for a small retail store, and to this day I feel guilty. A local newstation did an expose where they found there was zero conductive material at all in these stickers.

    1. Re:Great, but.. by chunkwhite86 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Does it work? Yes, this advertises a boost, but so do a bunch of products for cell phones that are purely decorative. I had to sell these for a small retail store, and to this day I feel guilty. A local newstation did an expose where they found there was zero conductive material at all in these stickers.

      I think a big clue is located in the disclaimer at the bottom of the page:

      "No Warranty. ALL SALES ARE FINAL. ...NO CLAIM IS MADE THAT THIS ITEM WILL INCREASE YOUR SIGNAL."

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  14. cardboard webserver by cenonce · · Score: 2, Funny

    Looks like their webserver is made of cardboard too...

    1. Re:cardboard webserver by Omega1045 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Seriously, that is funny!

      The only thing they are lacking is "Made of recycle cardboard" to get in with the PC (Politically Correct not Personal Computer) crowd.

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  15. /.ed to oblivion by nekdut · · Score: 4, Informative

    That was fast. Less than 5 posts and the machine is melted.

    Well here's a press release on the product. I like the part about it "vaguely resembling a Klingon space ship".

    Check it here: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/6/prwebxml13509 7.php

    Oh and of course the Google cache of the melted tritium.co.uk box: http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:TSbW7tvLA14J:ww w.tritium.co.uk/

  16. Cheaper solutions exist by mcgroarty · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can get Wi Fi Speed Spray for a few bucks less, and there's no overseas shipping to worry about.

    1. Re:Cheaper solutions exist by MesiahTaz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Speed Spray? From the makers of Handsome Cream?

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    2. Re:Cheaper solutions exist by howlatthemoon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They won't let me buy it online. I don't trust people who won't let me just type my credit card number into a web form.

  17. Slashdotted already, so here's a picture by RealAlaskan · · Score: 3, Informative
    Picture of flatenna on a review page. Scroll down to the bottom of the page.

    It looks to me as if 15 minutes with graph paper, scissors and glue (together with a bit of card stock and foil) would give you the same thing, without waiting on the snailmail, and without the $25 U.S.

    By the way, the site I link to says 9.99 pounds, which should be a bit less than $25.

  18. i laughed at this too by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Insightful

    i laughed at this too, like 90% of slashdotters here

    then again, if you told me in the 1980s that people would pay for bottled water

    or in the 1990s that people would pay $5.00 for a cup of coffee

    i would have laughed at you too

    the lesson is not to laugh, but to figure out your own amazing scheme

    for while we laugh at the people who sell this stuff, they are laughing all the way to the bank

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  19. History of ideas, volume 27 by legLess · · Score: 5, Funny

    Good idea Getting an ad for your product posted to Slashdot. Bad idea Hosting the site on DSL in your mom's basement.

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  20. Not an upgrade... by xchino · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is NOT an upgrade for your antenna. This doesn't increase gain, it just takes it from the back and adds to the front. The good thing about this method is it doesn't require you to modify your original antenna, so you don't have to worry about breaking FCC regulations on all equipment being certified. Apart from that, they are selling for $25 something which I created for free out of household items. Check here for more info on how to do it yourself (took me all of 30 minutes the first time).

    But again, I want to state this isn't an upgrade, your antenna isn't any more powerful, you're just taking power from the back and shooting it forward, so if you need omnidirectional signal this isn't for you. It can however, increase a dirctional link, but so can a pringles yagi directional, and that's still cheaper than this. Forget about this company and just make your own, it's simple, fun, and cheap, and gives you more of a choice in what material you want to use.

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    1. Re:Not an upgrade... by Rorschach1 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I believe the FCC limits are on EIRP - effective isotropic radiated power. An isotropic radiator is a theoretical antenna that radiates equally in all directions. EIRP measures the equivalent amount of power an isotropic radiator would need to put out to equal the effective power of your non-isotropic antenna.

      Say we take that energy from 180 degrees of the antenna's pattern and reflect it back along with the other 180 degrees. Now we've got twice the (effective) power, with half the coverage. This is EXACTLY what the EIRP rules are talking about.

      Sorry, there's no getting around the rules just because you don't physically touch the radiating element...

  21. Gain vs signal by dj245 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unfortunately all this does is crank up the gain. It probably works fantastic with one story houses, but I imagine for two story apartments and houses it wouldn't be too ideal. Crank up the gain, your antenna becomes more and more dipole- it broadcasts very well onto one plane but not anywhere else with a strong signal.

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    1. Re:Gain vs signal by Wapiti-eater · · Score: 2, Informative
      Crank up the gain, your antenna becomes more and more dipole- it broadcasts very well onto one plane but not anywhere else with a strong signal.
      Uh, I do believe you meant to say "directional" there, and not "dipole". Dipole is a fairly simple and commonly used type of antenna. Roughly: two resonant lengths working 'against' each other, hence the name, "two poles" The word 'dipole' is not normally used to describe a radiation pattern. Dipoles are genreally considered 'omni-directional' radiators.

      And you are correct, gain antennas can not 'create' or 'amplify' energy (for that, you'd need an amplifier, duh), they only take what energy is fed into them and direct it in a prefered direction at the expense of other directions. Consider the common yagi (or Yagi-Uda for the purists). Great gain forward, almost none to the sides, limited to the rear.

      This cardboard reflector is doing about the same idea - but by reflection rather than refraction. One possible caveat - depending on the distances from radiator to reflector, you can get phase problems. Get the spacing wrong and you can all but cancel out your own signal - or make it unusuable.
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  22. Other cardboard products for under $25 by James+Turpin · · Score: 5, Funny

    For $24 I'll sell you a cardboard box that you can sleep in. Just think how much money you'll save by not paying for housing! This is ideal for people living in Silicon Valley.

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  23. Beware Mortal by trifakir · · Score: 2, Funny

    The distribution of magnetic waves is His business and thou who tampers with it art deeply sin. Instead of getting thee Ethernet frames in the coffee below, they (the frames) can end-up at the neighbour above.

  24. Other Cardboard/Tinfoil Geek Project (OT) by Embedded+Geek · · Score: 2, Funny

    Once you've got a few dB's of gain, why not use the leftover cardboard from your pizza box and heat up some more pizza?

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  25. Re:Low-Sodium salt... by Nasarius · · Score: 3, Funny
    Low-Sodium salt

    Also known as chlorine?

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  26. Soup can stopped waveguide. by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's the only way to fly. Pringles can antennas just plain don't work - the only reason you see an improvement is because *anything* even vaguely right is better than the piss-poor excuse for an antenna that wifi cards have.

  27. Re:How Do You Eat Hydrogen? by Neil+Blender · · Score: 2, Informative

    Or phosphor coat it for that matter? Tritium is a Hydrogen isotope.

    You can disolve tritium in a phospor liquid. Tritium is usually used in compounds or molecules that have been 'tritiated'. Like tritiated water, tritiated thymidine, etc.

  28. Re:I think the Fractenna is cooler than the Flaten by WillWare · · Score: 2, Informative
    I'd make it clickable, but I depend on the kindness of strangers to show me how

    Set the kind of post to "HTML Formatted", using the little menu in the lower right. Then wrap HTML markup around it:

    <a href="http://www.foo.com/"> Text that you want highlighted </a>

    Fractenna is actually a pretty interesting-looking link. Thanks.

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  29. Microwave Pizza boxes make rotten antennas. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 3, Informative

    I think the stuff reflects the microwaves back through the food, to effectively double the cooking speed.

    No, the previous poster had it right.

    Your basic microwave heats the food where there's water or resistive material (like carbon). So it tends to make crispy materia soggy (by "steaming" it with the water evaporated from the wet places). And if you heat it long enough to dry it out, some spots heat enough to become burned - at which point they absorb more microwaves and become MORE burned - in a positive feedback that makes spotty burns rather than a crispy crust.

    The material is very thinly coated with metal and quite resistive. So it absorbs a portion of the microwaves and becomes very hot. The infrared is used to crisp the surface of the material, like a broiler would.

    Getting the packaging balanced - so the food is thawed, frozen, and crisped properly in the oven - takes some work. (Resistive cookware is available for do-it-yourselfers who want to broil in a microwave oven.)

    Such resistive packaging would make a rotten reflector. It's more like a "stealth" coating on an aircraft than a microwave mirror. (It might be useful, though, to make a microwave absorbing wall between your antenna and a nearby interference source.)

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    1. Re:Microwave Pizza boxes make rotten antennas. by Lehk228 · · Score: 3, Funny

      1)Collect hot pocket wrappers
      2)?????????^Wcover car
      3)Don't get speeding tickets

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    2. Re:Microwave Pizza boxes make rotten antennas. by pyrrhonist · · Score: 2, Funny

      I tried this, and my car overheated.

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  30. Cantenna by Guspaz · · Score: 3, Informative

    Or you could just buy a Cantenna. It's based on the pringles-can antenna, but it's bigger, better, weather-proofed, and takes a lot of the hassle out of making an antenna out of a pringles can. Not to mention the fact it's better.

  31. Or you could... by Pedrito · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You're probably in the minority if you don't have a semi-parabolic pan or pot lid lying around your kitchen (though, this is Slashdot, maybe you're not in the minority here). That's what I used for to focus the signal at my last place. Just used a pack of CDs to prop it up behind the antenna. It was a fairly signficant boost. I was impressed. And it didn't cost me anything I hadn't already paid.

  32. DIY by gtoomey · · Score: 2, Informative
    I made a similar antenna using this design

    Cost:
    Chicken wire $1 (from hardware store)
    styrofoam as a base $0 (free from greengrocer)
    Cable ties (to hold it together): $1

    Gain should be at least 6dB

  33. Re:Make your own -> splayed beer can by anon+coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Remove top and bottom, cut down side to get rectangle with nice built-in curl. Then fashion cardboard braces ala www.freeantennas.com and tape to antenna. Soft drink cans work too; plastic coating doesn't seem to degrade performance.

  34. Been using it for a while by crapnutassneck · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I built one based on this http://www.freeantennas.com/projects/template2/ind ex.html and it increased coverage in the back of my house by %26 according to the Cisco Aironet Desktop Utility when connected to my Qwe(r)st issued all in one Actiontec DSL TA/802.11G AP/Router. Given, it is not "increasing gain" just making it directional, but for 20 minutes work and no cost it was worth it.

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