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Rare East German Arcade Game Unearthed

Lancey writes "While hunting for work stuff I found this press release about an old Soviet games machine, apparently there are only three surviving units from a production of 1500 - most of them were destroyed after the Berlin wall came down. Thought you might find it interesting..." There are screenshots and photos in this BBC story.

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  1. literal translations rule by ack154 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Games include:

    Hirshjagd (Deer Hunt)
    Hase und Wolf (Hare and Wolf)
    Abfahrtslauf (Departure Course)
    Schmetterlinge (Butterflies)
    Scheissbude (literal translation "crap booth"!)
    Autorennen (Racing Car)
    I wonder what you have to do to win at Crap Booth... Get to the toilet paper on the other side of the river? Flush the toilet to avoid the evil crap monster? Or is it like whack-a-mole, but with turds? What's the objective?
    1. Re:literal translations rule by DjMd · · Score: 4, Funny

      So...In Soviet Russia polyplay plays you???

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    2. Re:literal translations rule by fuxoft · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Isn't that "Schiessbude" (shooting booth)? See Schiessen vs. Scheissen...

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    3. Re:literal translations rule by TopShelf · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh poo, you ruined all the fun...

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    4. Re:literal translations rule by Srsen · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wonder what you have to do to win at Crap Booth...

      It's a First Person Shitter.

    5. Re:literal translations rule by xenocide2 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I can only guess that the oft repeated phrase "come out or I'll shit" was a rare source of humor for Germans during the final days surrounding the European theater.

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    6. Re:literal translations rule by Rich0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I guess that is the problem with central planning...

      Ok, the latest extimate is that we have x people.

      Figure we can let them go to the bathroom y times per day.

      When they go we'll let them use z squares of TP.

      As a result, annual production of TP shall henceforth be set at x*y*z*365 squares of TP. Success to our five year plan!

      Remember - your TP belongs to the people. If you use z+1 squares you're stealing from the old lady down the street...

    7. Re:literal translations rule by fuxoft · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not until I discovered English language. :) In Czech, it's pronounced "fooksoft" and my name (Fuka) is pronounced "fooka" - like in Japanese.

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  2. Well by arieswind · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ill take pong over "crap booth" any day

  3. Imagine.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    A Beowulf-ski cluster of these

    1. Re:Imagine.. by Vaginal+Discharge · · Score: 3, Funny

      Umm... there's only 3 in existence. So a beowulf cluster of these will probably have the computing power of my TI graphing calculator.

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  4. Here we go... by suso · · Score: 3, Funny

    In soviet russia, the dots eat you.

  5. BBC blows up by lacrymology.com · · Score: 5, Funny

    I find it strange that the BBC would decide to host this article on one of the game machines in questions. Tis a pity.
    -m

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  6. History! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hey! Have SOME respect. This is history being preserved here.

  7. How are East German women like arcade games? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    They both sometimes have joysticks. They both take lots of quarters to play.

  8. Screenshots of actual gameplay by lawpoop · · Score: 4, Informative
    Here.

    "Crap booth" is not as interesting as it seems, but apparently communist Germany and capitalist America aren't really that different.

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    1. Re:Screenshots of actual gameplay by garcia · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I thought it was funny that they said it was nothing more than a TV and a wooden box...

      I have an original Ms. Pacman machine. The tubes inside were never meant to make it more than a couple years (according to websites I have read) because they never expected video games to remain popular that long...

      So anyway, this Ms. Pacman machine is basically nothing more than an old, stripped down TV tube, in a wooden box... I don't see how that is any different than the Poly Play description.

    2. Re:Screenshots of actual gameplay by Rob+Parkhill · · Score: 5, Informative

      But the TV in this thing is not a stripped down unit, it is a whole TV set, little legs and everything!

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  9. U of Bath is in the UK by gevmage · · Score: 3, Informative

    For those like me who are geographically challenged, Bath is in the United Kingdom, a couple of hours west of London.

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    1. Re:U of Bath is in the UK by gatekeep · · Score: 4, Funny

      But please don't take that to mean that bathing is optional in the US. It's your civic duty to practice good hygeine.

    2. Re:U of Bath is in the UK by gwernol · · Score: 5, Funny

      For those like me who are geographically challenged, Bath is in the United Kingdom, a couple of hours west of London.

      Ah, but the museum is at the Swindon campus of the University of Bath. Swindon is between Bath and London, about 1.5 hours west of the capital. The glorious Eddie Izzard once described Swindon as being like Fresno without the charm. Which is about right.

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  10. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  11. What by stratjakt · · Score: 4, Informative

    When it was first launched in 1985, the computer technology was 10 years out of date by western standards. It has text-based graphics generated with a Russian 8-bit processor compared to the 16-bit processors used in western home computer games, or 32 bit processors used in western arcade machines at the time

    In 1985 where was MY 16 bit game console and 32 bit arcade machines?

    Hell, Super Mario Bros 2 came out in 1985. "Western life" wasn't that advanced.

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    1. Re:What by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In 1985, 68000s were only being phased in coin-op machines at the top-end. The Z80 was still the mainstay for a while longer. (You have to be kind and allow the 8088 and 68000 their 16 and 32bit-hood.)

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    2. Re:What by master_p · · Score: 4, Informative

      Dude, In 1985, SEGA created Outrun: 2x68000, Z80 for sound, a tremendous sprite scaler engine that could scale many many hardware sprites at real time...the 68000 had a full 32-bit architecture, but a 24-bit data bus. You can easily google arcade Outrun specs.

      Furthermore, many mainframe systems used the 68000 with some version of Unix.

      Furthermore, in 1985, you could buy an Amiga 1000 in US.

  12. They had another game, too. by Myrmi · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Berlin wall was the largest official game of Breakout to have ever existed. They won.

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    1. Re:They had another game, too. by Rhinobird · · Score: 5, Funny

      I guess that makes the new wall in Isreael level 2?

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  13. Re:MAME? by strictnein · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's been in MAME for quite some time.
    PolyPlay is one of the the (few) legal ROMs for MAME. From Mameworld.net:
    (C) 1985 VEB Polytechnik Karl-Marx-Stadt.
    Owing to the collapse of East Germany, there does not appear to be any copyright holder for this software.


    There's a link there to download the game. So go grab your favorite version of MAME and play the game! Interactive news! It's the future!

  14. Hmmm what's the communist scoring system like? by Libertarian_Geek · · Score: 4, Funny

    Your score is averaged with everyone else's scores? There are no high scores, only the people's score. For snitching on your neighbor's capitalistic views, you get an extra Blue ghost dot though.

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  15. (Sorry, karma be damned) by jcostantino · · Score: 4, Funny

    In the former East Germany... games pl^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H you play games!

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  16. East German fun by BinBoy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Proving once again if there's one thing you can say about East Germans it's that they really knew how to have fun.

  17. Priceless? by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 3, Insightful
    And what about it's value? Simon says it's hard to say; as it's only one of three in existence, it could be priceless.

    Well, it certainly could be worth quite a bit and it is a fascinating find, but priceless? Perhaps they should list it with Sotheby's. Do you think it will fetch more than a Vermeer?

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  18. Re:MAME? by grm_wnr · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's on MAME. Google for "MAME polyplay". I actually played it. Problem: It's really boring.

  19. More Missing Titles: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bratwurst-Time (The burgertime counterpart)
    Soulkrauten (soulblade...but everyone looks like Sigfreid)
    Aryan 51 (a shoot-em-up game)
    Operation Wulf (a Taito port)
    Building Castle Wolfenstein (Tetris clone)

    And the yet-to-be-released:
    Kaiser Gassem Forever (hey, it's about as bad as Nukem)

  20. Pac Man was a capitalist by MooseByte · · Score: 4, Funny

    " So Pac Man was a communist?"

    Not a chance. Else Pac Man would have stood waiting in line for hours to get one dot, and all the bonus items would been deemed decadent Western evils. Unless you entered the secret "Member of the Politburo" code, in which case see below.

    No, Pac Man was purely a consumerism capitalist, endlessly gobbling up things, the faster the better in order to gobble still MORE things, all while dodging the tax collectors to the best of his ability.

  21. I remember that by Gropo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was fortunate enough to go on a trip to the (soon to be defunct) U.S.S.R. in 1988. Our last leg of the tour was in Moskow, where we stayed at the 'Pionir' hotel (where the capitalist swine were usually contained on their visits apparently)

    In the lobby there was a PolyPlay and a couple other old "mechanical" video games... I recall a light-gun shooter and something else.

    That array of games--being a 13 year old proto-geek--was actually the creepiest thing I experienced on the entire trip. The thought of Russian kids having "fun" on these creepy old bland games just kinda chilled my spine for some reason.

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  22. Poly play explained by Gallowsgod · · Score: 3, Funny

    From the article: "The Poly Play videogame was Eastern Bloc's answer to the capitalist's Pac Man"

    In short, the object of the game is for the ghosts to crush the despotic tyrant McPacMan. After voting two of the ghosts as their representatives in the socialist ghosts party these two ghosts share all the dots between them leaving one dot for the other two ghosts to share. The number of votes each ghost gets is based on the number of dots in their region of the screen.

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  23. I knew it! by sulli · · Score: 3, Funny

    The original champions of DDR!

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  24. Green Mode by trifakir · · Score: 4, Informative

    I wonder what is the power consumption of this gadget. Probably you have to switch-off one or two districts in the neighbour and it needs an additional water cooling. A Soviet refrigerator, for example, consumes probably 1Kw and most of the energy is converted to sound as it is louder than a truck...

  25. Re:MAME? by k98sven · · Score: 4, Informative

    Owing to the collapse of East Germany, there does not appear to be any copyright holder for this software.

    I'm not certain the MAME guys should be so sure of that though. Had it had any commercial value whatsoever, you can bet someone would've claimed it.

    There have been cases of rights disputes over Soviet creations, not to mention the big fuss over Tetris back in the day.

  26. 3 in existance ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I had one of those. And I know about a dozen of other PolyPlays

    Its rare, but not that rare. there are more PolyPlays in Germany (east&west) than PacMans.

    There are several different cab versions of it (due to lack of rescoureces)

    And its really not worth anything........not really.

  27. book by oxymor00n · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Marcus Hammerschmitt, a german author, wrote a science fiction book about it. A really good read, if you understand german.

  28. It is. by Gorath99 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Isn't that "Schiessbude" (shooting booth)? See Schiessen vs. Scheissen...
    It is. See an image over here (the text on the page spells it wrong though).

    Is it just me, or do a lot of native English speaking people seem to have a problem with the difference between "ie" and "ei"? I would understand if they always wrote "ei", but I see too many instances of "wierd" for that to be true. Odd...

    1. Re:It is. by operagost · · Score: 5, Funny

      So would "Scheiss Schiess" be a crap shoot?

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    2. Re:It is. by filth+grinder · · Score: 4, Funny

      "I before E, except after C or when sounding like A as in neighbor or weigh."

      The full version of the saying is:
      "I before E, except after C or when sounding like A as in neighbor and wiegh, or on weekends and holidays and all throughout May, you'll always be wrong no matter what you say!"

      From the mighty Brian Reagan, who is probably being chased by a flock of moosen through woodenses.

    3. Re:It is. by jez9999 · · Score: 4, Funny

      sounding like A as in neighbor and wiegh

      Don't you mean 'weigh'? :-)

    4. Re:It is. by sparcnut · · Score: 3, Funny

      For some strange reason that conjures up visions of Internet Explorer... "I before E, except after so many exceptions"... You may be onto something there. Are you implying people use Internet Explorer before they encounter too many unhandled exceptions, then switch?

      On a more serious note, the version I learned was something along the lines of "I before E, except after C, and weird is weird".

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  29. Not so rare, really... by fuxoft · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a citizen of former Communist block I distinctly remember there were MANY official amusement games (mechanical / electronic hybrids, not videogames). There was bowling (the "fake" one, where the ball doesn't really touch the hanging pins but presses sensors under them), there was "Zimnaya ochota" - shooting at blinking animals with lightgun, various "racers" (mechanical model traveling over the projected road), there was a sub shooting torpedoes at the ships (also mechanical, using ship models and mirrors). Most of them were made in Soviet Union. I even remember a Russian pinball (I think the theme was "Ruslan & Ludmila"). I suspect most of them were ripped of from similar U.S. games of 60s and 70s. But I also remember several communist VIDEO games. There was Russian game of multiplayer horseracing - there were about six or so horizontal racetracks and everyone had to press his button for a horse to jump over the obstacles. The color was provided by colored celophanes glued to the screen. I remember spending dozens of hours at the "arcades", watching these marvels. There was also definitely Pong made in Czechoslovakia (this was a home videogame you could buy around 1985). Also, several Nintendo Game & Watch games were ripped off and officially sold as Russian games. I remember THE EGG, which slightly changed the wolf's face and turned the hen into the hare, thus making it a game based on popular Russian "Nu pagadi" cartoon about Wolf battling the Hare...

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  30. Re:MAME? by pla · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not certain the MAME guys should be so sure of that though.

    You make the mistake of assuming people really care about the legality of MAME (or any emulator, really, although at least for most of the single-console emulators, they have homebrew games to justify their existance).

    Really, how many arcade machines can you fit in your living room? Even (former) arcade owners would realistically only have the right to use a few dozen games at most. Yet most MAME users have literally hundreds, if not thousands, of games.

    Not to say that strictly legal users don't exist, but I would consider them in the tiny minority.

  31. Re:Itchy & Scratchy by daviddennis · · Score: 3, Informative

    Worse than that, actually. A Trabant in East Germany was issued after you saved most of your spare money for 10 years.

    if you did the same thing in West Germany - an act that would admittedly take tremendous willpower - you could afford a 911, easy. A 911 is only about ten times as fast from 0-60 as a Trabant. Well, a Trabant can't even make it to 60 (it has a top speed of 56mph) but you get the idea.

    Not much of a joke if you have to live it, alas :-(.

    D

  32. Re:Of course, in the Soviet Pac Man game... by BinBoy · · Score: 4, Funny

    The pac man collects all the dots while the 4 ghosts wander aimlessly, pretending to work. Then when the board is cleared, they take pac man's dots and divide them equally... except for the highest ranking ghost who gets a larger share because he is more equal than the others.

  33. You forgot... by ktakki · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dance Dance Revolution of the Proletariat.

    k.

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  34. If you want to play it yourself by Baumi · · Score: 3, Informative

    The page linked above also has a link to a MAME file.

    1. Re:If you want to play it yourself by eraserbones · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I downloaded the ROM, and it works fine. How is this possible?

      How can MAME emulate hardware which is 'Apparently based on a Russian minicomputer/PC of the day'? Doesn't the fact that the software works on MAME mean that the basic game hardware must be some stock system from the west?

    2. Re:If you want to play it yourself by Baumi · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I was wondering about that, too, here's what I found:

      A MAME status report from April 2000 states that "Martin Buchholz sent in a Poly-Play driver (the only arcade machine ever produced in GDR, the former East Germany) with thanks to Jürgen Oppermann, Volker Hann and the Videogame Museum in Berlin (especially to Jan-Ole Christian) - without them, the driver would not have been reality."

      This German article elaborates on that a little bit. Basically, they analyzed existing hardware and built a MAME driver for it. That's what they do for other games, too - usually, however, implementing a platform will give you more than one box to emulate...
      (The museum people were quite happy to have the MAME emulation, of course, because one of these days, the hardware is going to fail, and now they'll at least still have the games in working order.)

      The second article also talks about four missing games: Their names are in the software and people in the comments section remember playing them, but none of the surviving machines seems to have the games.

      Their names are:
      "Der Gaertner" (The gardener)
      "Im Gewaechshaus" (In the greenhouse)
      "Hagelnde Wolken" (Hail clouds - apparently some kind of Space Invaders clone)
      "Der Taucher" (The diver)

      Jens