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Yahoo! Acquires Oddpost

weiyuent writes "We all know the arrival of Gmail has initiated a new round of competition amongst the major webmail providers. Well, Yahoo! has acquired Oddpost and will be integrating Oddpost's amazing interface to strengthen its offerings. One might wonder though how to reconcile Oddpost's MSIE requirement with Yahoo!'s (thus far) cross-platform approach. Oh well, at least it will likely put an end to Oddpost's exasperating attempt to be cute in their communication."

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  1. Not cross platform by beforewisdom · · Score: 5, Informative
    One might wonder though how to reconcile Oddpost's MSIE requirement with Yahoo!'s (thus far) cross-platform approach.
    It is not cross platform. They do not support the ical standard or any non-windows calendar clients. ( yes, I sent them a polite suggestion )
    1. Re:Not cross platform by lessthanjakejohn · · Score: 5, Informative

      Launchcast does not work in Firefox on windows either.

    2. Re:Not cross platform by bwy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Cross platform? Hell, their home page is not even cross-browser apparently.

      This page seems to not scroll in Mozilla 1.5 even if all the content can't be shown in the browser window because of size. You know you're in trouble when they fuck up their main marketing page.

    3. Re:Not cross platform by bigbadwlf · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Using Firefox 0.9.2 on Windows, the page lacks a scrollbar but it does scroll with the mouse wheel.
      Strange.

    4. Re:Not cross platform by sasha328 · · Score: 4, Informative
      Mouse wheel works, but the up/down arrow keys don't work.

      The source has the following interesting snippet:
      /*var isIE55upForPC = ( ( ua.indexOf( "MSIE" ) != -1 )
      && ( ua.indexOf( "Windows" ) != -1 )
      && ( ua.indexOf( "MSIE 5.0" ) == -1 )
      && ( ua.indexOf( "MSIE 4" ) == -1 )
      && ( ua.indexOf( "MSIE 3" ) == -1 )
      && ( ua.indexOf( "MSIE 2" ) == -1 )
      && ( ua.indexOf( "Opera" ) == -1 ) );*/

      var isIE55upForPC = false; // for purposes of disabling signup
      Notice the "disabling signup" comment for non-IE or Opera browsers.
      I do not use Yahoo, but hope they change this silliness.
  2. Yahoo is fine the way it is by SCHecklerX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google is good at what it does: searching and newsgroups with a few other potentially useful things.

    Yahoo is good at what it does: news, yellow pages, maps, tv listings, movie listings, etc.

    I use yahoo primarily for 'book' information, and google as a search engine.

  3. what's the cost? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    oddpost is currently a subscription service if i read correctly. will yahoo change all those subscriber accounts into free ones paid by advertising revenue?

  4. Hotmail by powerpuffgirls · · Score: 4, Funny

    Based on Microsoft's recently move to compete in search engine, I wonder why it doesn't do more in Hotmail? Does it think it has secured enough user base to ignore new comers?

    Oh by the way, if Google has gmail, MS introduce hmail, Apple gives you imail, Sun introduces jmail... :)

  5. Easy to remedy... by bergeron76 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One might wonder though how to reconcile Oddpost's MSIE requirement with Yahoo!'s (thus far) cross-platform approach.

    This is easy to remedy: Microsoft acquires Yahoo!

    MSFT could kill 3 birds with one stone - they could force all existing Yahoo! Mail users to use IE, they would gain a significant market share in the search engine market (against Google), and they'd get Oddpost as a bonus (not that Oddpost is terribly exciting).

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    1. Re:Easy to remedy... by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Of course, wasn't Hotmail the hands-down leader in the free web e-mail market before Microsoft aquired it?

  6. So that's what an amazing interface is? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Looks a heck of a lot like Outlook to me. I didn't know Slashdot posters were in a habit of flattering Microsoft developers.

  7. Oddpost Features by neil.pearce · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Odpost was pretty cool, a recap of its highlights...
    1) not a lick of advertising - Not any more
    2) accessible via POP & IMAP - Not any more
    3) send & receive large attachments - Not any more
    4) staggeringly effective spam filtering - Not any more
    5) Insert your favourite feature here - Not any more

    1. Re:Oddpost Features by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Informative

      We don't know if Yahoo's going to muck up Oddpost's killer features by trying to merge it into Yahoo... or if this is going to be a premium service that they're going to try to upsell their freeloaders into, at which point it may be allowed to run as-is with a much higher userbase and budget.

  8. And in case other people want to write yahoo by beforewisdom · · Score: 4, Interesting

    here is a well hidden but useful feedback link:

    http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/my/cgi_feedback

    Yahoo does listen to suggestions, it just takes many iterations and time.

  9. Photo management is another one by prostoalex · · Score: 4, Informative

    Google bought a photo management firm today, meanwhile Yahoo! Photos changed its disk space restrictions to unlimited quite a while ago.

    1. Re:Photo management is another one by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 4, Informative

      Speaking of benefits,

      Any existing Oddpost subscribers have a special bonus:

      Until then, all Oddpost subscriptions will be extended, free of charge. After the migration, you'll get an additional free year of premium Yahoo! Mail service including two gigs of storage, SpamGuard Plus, advanced virus protection and lots of other goodies.

      Thats from the OddPost announcement to subscribers page.

      I think thats quite a sweetener. gMail certainly has rocked the boat, and competition is good.

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  10. Well... by XeRXeS-TCN · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hardly surprising that Yahoo have done something like this really... after all, the "quick and easy" way of trying to compete with GMail when you have that much money, is obviously to just find something similar and buy it ;P

    I do wonder about the suggestion that Yahoo is in any way cross-platform though. Especially considering the recent protocol change (reported on Slashdot) to lock out third party messenger clients like Trillian and Gaim. They are yet another proprietary company, so they'll design their system to run as *they* like, and if you don't want to adhere to it, tough.

    In saying that though, Oddpost has only *just* been acquired, and it says on their page that they are only starting to develop the merge between their service and Yahoo! Mail, so there is more than ample opportunity to ensure all browser compatibility before the main roll out. Whether they do or not remains to be seen, but I would hope they would take the recent announcements about the insecurity of IE, and the recent 1% loss in market share into account, and ensure that their service will be more universally accessible than it's current incarnation.

  11. More competition and UI thinking is a GOOD thing.. by CFD339 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But lets face it. The web browser is a really crappy place to work. RSS is a really interesting use of a hybrid web / rich client technology and that's interesting. Web Services are cool, but nearly unusable in their complexity if you go beyond time & temperature toys -- but the IDEA is right. Anyway, GMAIL is less impressive to this of us wierdo's who got hooked on NOTES years ago (yes, I know its bizzare to code for and feels weird if you're not used to it -- but so does PHP and PYTHON -- but its amazingly cool if you know how to make it do its thing). If Yahoo & Google fight it out for best UI bragging rights, we'll see innovation. Both companies are good at that.

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  12. Mozilla support is coming by Ars-Fartsica · · Score: 4, Informative

    Oddpost has stated that they are working on cross-browser support right now.

    1. Re:Mozilla support is coming by toopc · · Score: 4, Funny
      I'm assuming either Google will fix gmail, or Apple will fix safari.

      Yes...it can be hard to place blame when Microsoft isn't an option.

  13. Re:Client-side 2GB goodness by FU_Fish · · Score: 5, Informative

    Try Fusemail. They offer an imap and webmail interface for something like $4 quarterly and they can pull your e-mail from your yahoo account and others.

  14. Re:Difference: Yahoo Mail Works by Senjutsu · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why is it that the ongoing systemic outages on GMail are not reported here?

    Because "Breaking News: Beta Software Has Occasional Reliability Issues" is more a subject for Duh Magazine than for /.

  15. Begun again, These Browser Wars by easyfrag · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Over the past few months we have witnessed something remarkable: Browsers are "hot" again. Look at what's come down the pipes: Gmail, a possible plan for WHAT-WG may eventually turn out to be HTML 5.0, the demo of Apple's Dashboard technology, and now today's purchases by Yahoo and Google.

    Remember a few years ago how the (cross-platform) web browser was going to make the Windows desktop obsolete? We all know how that turned out, Microsoft leveraged its "advantage" in the desktop world to the browser market. But I think MS made a critical mistake in freezing development of IE and waiting for Avalon. We are starting to see some real slick web-based apps that are as useful as local applications. I've seen people here complaining that Oddpost is just a ripoff of Outlook, of course it is, but that's missing the point. What's important is that you can now get a desktop-like experience in the browser that wasn't possible a couple of years ago.