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North Korea Opens Official Website

wumpus188 writes "This is what I believe is the first official North Korean internet site 'Naenara' ('My Country'). Free reg required (login 'slashdot', password 'password' for you lazy slackers :) I esp. enjoyed the 'Favorite Korean Movies' section."

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  1. Don by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Someone already changed the password.

    1. Re:Don by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Someone already changed the password."

      Some anonymous nerd out there late on a Friday night is sitting there saying "Ha ha!"

      --
      "Derp de derp."
  2. If only... by ThePDW · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now if only they could just figure out how to feed their people :-(

    1. Re:If only... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      And give them internet access so they could read the site.

  3. Well well! by timealterer · · Score: 5, Funny

    I look forward to open, unbiased communication free of propoganda or heresay.

    --
    - Allen Pike
    Altering time, one time at a time.
    1. Re:Well well! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      I look forward to open, unbiased communication free of propoganda or heresay.

      Are you talking about the North Korean site or Slashdot?

    2. Re:Well well! by stimpleton · · Score: 4, Funny



      Unlike the whitehouse??

      --

      In post Patriot Act America, the library books scan you.
    3. Re:Well well! by pjt33 · · Score: 4, Funny

      And maybe written by people who know how to spell propaganda and hearsay.

    4. Re:Well well! by Zorilla · · Score: 2, Funny

      All North Korea needs now is their own version of whitehouse.com

      (Military joke, not a troll)

      --

      It would be cool if it didn't suck.
    5. Re:Well well! by Halfbaked+Plan · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I am just enjoying a fresh new version of the musty old Stalinist boilerplate that made old-school communist publications just a joy to mock.

      Example: the photo captioned:

      Supreme Commander Kim Jong Il visits the Mangyongdae Revolutionary School on a snowy New Year's Day.

      This school is a grand palace of learning of the bereaved children of the revolutionary martyrs which President Kim Il Sung established in person.


      That sort of stuff hasn't made it west since the Enver Hoxa folks in Albania stopped shipping their stuff over for 'New Left' consumtion.
      --
      resigned
  4. password already changed? by the_skywise · · Score: 3, Informative

    username: slashdot
    password: password

    Invalid password.

    1. Re:password already changed? by PetoskeyGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

      A moron with at least one extra mod point it seems. :P

  5. go get 'em boys by Killshot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oooh.. let's see just how much bandwidth the north koreans have.

    1. Re:go get 'em boys by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Funny

      Apparently not much...

      I thought Nukes were something they weren't allowed to have. Who gave them PHP-Nuke?

    2. Re:go get 'em boys by Some+Bitch · · Score: 2, Informative

      You may find that bandwidth has nothing to do with it, it's more likely the load generated by PHP-Nuke has driven the server to it's knees.

    3. Re:go get 'em boys by KrisHolland · · Score: 4, Funny

      " Oooh.. let's see just how much bandwidth the north koreans have."

      Watchout about wasting N. Korea's bandwidth, they've threatened nuclear war for less...

    4. Re:go get 'em boys by igrp · · Score: 3, Funny
      Cool, we just slashdotted an entire country.

      I'm so proud of my fellow /.'ers. ;)

  6. Someone nukes N. Korea.... by mediaSage · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... With PHP!?!?!?

    1. Re:Someone nukes N. Korea.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I also note that the communists have stolen patented western MP3 technology, probably with the assistance of pinko symp GNU/Linux hippies.

  7. Not exactly the first... by nordicfrost · · Score: 4, Informative

    KCNA, the NK "news" agensy has had a website for years in Japan. It is under the JP TLD, and the new one is under the NET TLD.

    KCNA functions as the spokesperson for the DPKR, the state of North Korea. Probably the least independent news agency in the world, Fox News included.

  8. One Country by Scarblac · · Score: 4, Funny

    Click "One Country":

    Object not found!
    The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the referring page seems to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author of that page about the error.
    Error 404
    ...

    Kinda figures.

    --
    I believe posters are recognized by their sig. So I made one.
  9. Already Bugmenot-ed by glMatrixMode · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's a funny thing : BugMeNot (still haven't installed this Firefox extension ?) already works with this website...

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    War doesn't prove who's right, just who's left.
  10. In the words of Stewie... by the_skywise · · Score: 3, Funny

    BLAST!

  11. Inside DPRK by Mmm+coffee · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here's an interesting article about a man's experiences when he went into North Korea, in case anyone's wondering what's really going on in there.

    1. Re:Inside DPRK by friedo · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Yeah, they're pretty similar. Except for the fact that people in the sourth aren't starving by the millions, don't have a fanatical national cult leader, are free to leave and come back to the country whenever they want, have an independent press, a thriving economy and cordial relations with the civilized world.


      Yep. Very similar indeed.

    2. Re:Inside DPRK by LostCluster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      have an independent press

      But not a free press as the grandparent post pointed out some politcally unpopular ideas are taboo.

    3. Re:Inside DPRK by nordicfrost · · Score: 4, Informative
      have an independent press, a thriving economy


      I object! While the press in DPRK is 100% unfree, the south Korean pess is not free at all. My boss went there on a press convention for new media, and the SK journalists were absolutely flabergasted by the ammount of freedom the press we are used to here. Not only can you be arrested (and frequently people do) for saying certain things in the press, but the media is tightly controlled by a consotrium of owners. The only really free media is an online newssite where hundreds of persons, journalists and non-journalists alike, contribute and 20-some persons edit and publish.


      As for money, DPRK was actually richer than SK for a long time after the Korean war. They were bypassed in the eraly to mid 80ies since the USSR gave DPRK al lot of aid and trade. So did China.

    4. Re:Inside DPRK by dochood · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The South Korean media has a lot more freedom than it had under Chun Do Hwan.

      When Roh Tae Woo became president, he loosened up the restrictions on the media, and the very next day, they had one variety show where all of the voice impressionists they could find came out and did voice impressions of Roh and Chun! That was unheard of before.

      However, the government still does use the media to exercise its campaigns (keep our forests clean, don't honk obnoxiously at other drivers, let your kids get SOME sleep and not make them study all the time, etc). They often use drama and comedy shows to make their points.

      Right after we pressured them into buying our meat (back in the 80's when the trade deficit was really bad), a week later on a little kids' show, the adult characters were explaining to the kid characters on the show that the meat tasted so bad because it came from America, and it was all spoiled and full of hormones!

      The media is South Korea is still heavily censored and used by the government to make their points.

  12. Server in Germany? by Wingnut64 · · Score: 2, Informative

    traceroute says that the 2nd to last hop is kcc.cust-gw.ipberlin.com, following some .de domains.

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    echo 'Header append X-HD-DVD "0x09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0"' >> /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
    1. Re:Server in Germany? by rally_redhat · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yup - it's in Germany all right.

      Try this link - it's the result of Netcraft's "What's that site running?" page.

      According to it, the netblock owner is some " I/P/B Internet Provider in Berlin".

    2. Re:Server in Germany? by zz99 · · Score: 2, Informative
      It is a german that owns the domain.

      whois kcckp.net gives this:
      domain: kcckp.net
      created: 2004-05-28 15:47:12
      expire: 2005-11-25 04:14:15

      title: CEO
      fname: Jan
      lname: Holtermann
      org: KCC Europe GmbH
      address: Glinka Str. 5-7
      city: Berlin
      (edited to pass the junk filter)
    3. Re:Server in Germany? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      http://www.kcc-europe.de/index.cfm?defnav=aktuelle &content=aktuelle&showdetail=03123001

      Ein Berliner bringt das Internet nach Nordkorea

      A doughnut brings the internet to North Korea.

      Berliner Kurier: Berlin, 30. December 2003. Anschlüsse gibt es aber nur für regierungstreue Firmen und Behörden.

      Berliner Kurier (Newspaper): Berlin, 30. December 2003. But access is only given to companies and agencies which are loyal to the government.

      Jan Holthusen investierte mit seiner Firma KCC Europe 700 000 Euro, um Geschäfte mit Nordkorea zu machen. (Foto: V.Otto)

      Jan Holthusen's company KCC Europe invested 700,000 Euros in order to do business with North Korea. (Foto: V.Otto)

      Es ist der letzte Staat der Welt ohne Internet. Jetzt hilft der Berliner Jan Holtermann (49) Nordkorea ans Netz.

      It's the last country in the world without Internet. Now Jan Holtermann (49) from Berlin helps North Korea onto the net.

      Die guten Verbindungen in die ostasiatischen Diktatur hat der Kaufmann noch aus Nach-Wende-Zeiten. "Da verkaufte ich EDV-Anlagen aus der DDR nach Nordkorea."

      The businessman's good connections to the east asian dictatorship go back to the time after the fall of the Berlin wall. "Back then I sold computer systems from the GDR to North Korea."

      Er beriet die Asiaten bei Verträgen und Transaktionen, kam dann im Jahr 2000 zum ersten Mal in die Hauptstadt Pjöngjang. Dort stellt er fest: Kein Internet. Nirgendwo.

      He advised the Asians concerning contracts and transactions, in 2000 he travelled to the capitol Pjoengjang for the first time. There he noticed: No Internet. Nowhere.

      "Das ist die Chance, Geld zu verdienen", sagte sich der findige Unternehmer. Er gründete die KCC Europe GmbH. Jan Holtermann: "KCC heißt Korea Computer Center."

      "That is a chance to make money", said the resourceful entrepreneur. He founded the KCC Europe GmbH. Jan Holtermann: "KCC means Korea Computer Center."

      Seine Firma mit 15 Mitarbeitern schloss in diesem Jahr einen Exklusiv-Vertrag mit den Nordkoreanern zur Einrichtung und kommerziellen Nutzung des Internet ab.

      This year, his company with 15 employees signed an exclusive contract on installation and commercial use of the Internet with the North Koreans.

      2004, genau gesagt am 16. Februar 2004, startet das gemeinsame Projekt nach einem Test-Betrieb. Internet-Zugänge werden dann in ausgewählten Firmen und Regierungsstellen stehen. Nicht in Privathaushalten, für die ohnehin nur regionale Telefonverbindungen möglich sind.

      In 2004, on the 16th of February, to be precise, the project started after a testing phase. Internet connections will be available in selected companies and government agencies. Not in private homes, who only have access to regional phone connections anyway.

      Holtermann: "Es gibt rund 6000 sehr gut ausgebildete Programmierer. Sie mit Dienstleistungen zu beschäftigen, kostet einen Unternehmer nur kleines Geld."

      Holtermann: "There are about 6000 well trained programmers. It doesn't cost much to have them provide their services.

      Außerdem entwickeln die Nordkoreaner preiswerte Betriebssysteme für Handys, mobile Datenbank Systeme und Video-Konferenz-Systeme. "Alles preiswert und gut", sagt Holtermann. "Sie gewinnen viele internationale Preise."

      The North Koreans also develop inexpensive operating systems for mobile phones, mobile database systems and video conferencing systems. "All inexpensive and good", says Holtermann. "They receive many international awards."

      Der Server für den Datentransfer steht in der Botschaft Nordkoreas in der Glinkastraße. Um teure Kosten für die Satellitenverbindu

  13. In related news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... the first North Korean internet site has been slashdotted.

  14. do they have a blog? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Jul 17 2004 05:11:34 | posted by KJI | category: missles | comments: 0

    Wanted to let you know that we've got a shitload of big new missles. I hope everybody shows up to watch the army goose-step in front of them. Show up, it'll be a blast. And if you don't you'll be shot.

    Jul 16 2004 19:23:44 | posted by KJI | category: food | comments: 3245243

    Ugh I totally can't figure out this computer. Anyway just enjoying some kimchi wanted to let you know that. I hope everybody is having a good dinner tonight.

    Update: yow, didn't mean to touch a nerve there... go out and hunt for grubs or something, can't help yah.

    Jul 12 2004 09:30:01 | posted by KJI | category: admin | comments: 1

    Hey yall SUP! just got my blog up and running. I'm gonna post some of favorite american movies here in a sec. I hope someday we can have movie theatres here, eh? HOt buttered popcorn for me!

  15. Not really the first one by deepsky · · Score: 2, Informative

    What about the "official web site"?
    http://www.korea-dpr.com/

  16. Their Server Runs SUSE! by rally_redhat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As mentioned before, clicking on their "One Korea" link gets you to a "page unavailable" message:

    Object not found!

    The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the referring page seems to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author of that page about the error.

    If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster.
    Error 404
    www.kcckp.net
    Sat Jul 17 18:31:28 2004
    Apache/2.0.48 (Linux/SuSE)

    Look at the last line.

    I was amazed initially - I thought "Linux really is everywhere" - until I realised that Microsoft probably doesn't have any branches in North Korea! That's one country where there won't be too many IIS servers!

    1. Re:Their Server Runs SUSE! by zz99 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Or, perhaps it is because the server is located in Germany, and run by a German company

  17. Inside DPRK: behind the scenes. by infolib · · Score: 4, Informative

    In 1999 a german Doctor gained the confidence of the regime. Getting behind the 70ies-kitschy facade, he came back to report on the oppression and poverty.

    Google will find you lots of interviews about his experiences.

    --
    Any sufficiently advanced libertarian utopia is indistinguishable from government.
    1. Re:Inside DPRK: behind the scenes. by daviddennis · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Have you ever visited a Communist country?

      I have, Cuba in December 2002. It was a real eye-opener to see armed police on every street corner and people scared to talk to you when you took them out to a restaurant, because they knew the waiters are spies. And I'm not kidding.

      To see fear in the eyes of people, because they would be punished with three years in Re-Education Camp if they told you the truth ... that eliminates the "our society is screwed" attitude real fast.

      I know our society is imperfect. So are people, and so are all societies. But to say that people like living under tyranny because they don't have the power to overthrow it is just plain wrong.

      Incidentally, Castro wants Cubans to hate us, because it creates solidarity for his policies within Cuba. But after decades of deprivation compared to how life was pre-Castro, this is wearing more than a little thin. In my experience, it isn't working now. Every Cuban I encountered - and I encountered many - loves America.

      It seems like you have to live in a tyranny - or at least know what one's like - to appreciate what we have here.

      D

  18. Korea makes me proud to be an American. by leereyno · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When I look at this website it reminds me of how much good the US has done around the world. If it wasn't for us there would not be a North Korea. There wouldn't be a South Korea either for that matter because the whole damned peninsula would be under the lead boot of a communist dictatorship. The DPRK should stand as a reminder of just how much evil there is in the world, and just how easily that evil can prevail.

    It is because of us that South Korea is free, and God willing one of these days we'll bring freedom to ALL of Korea.

    Lee

    --
    Muslim community leaders warn of backlash from tomorrow morning's terrorist attack.
    1. Re:Korea makes me proud to be an American. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You are ever so lucky to live in the land of the free. By the way, have you ever been to Cuba? I guess not, your government won't let you.

    2. Re:Korea makes me proud to be an American. by grendelkhan · · Score: 4, Insightful
      It is because of us that South Korea is free, and God willing one of these days we'll bring freedom to ALL of Korea.
      And let me tell you something, the older Koreans remember and thank us for it. I spent six years of my time in the Air Force stationed in Korea, and while most people my age there were more curious than anything to talk to an American (most really wanted to practice their English!), I was extremely touched one day on the subway in Seoul.

      As I was standing there, an older man sitting next to me asked me if I was an Amerian serviceman. When I answered yes. he shook my hand and said "Thank you. Young people don't remember, but I do. Thank you for helping us. Thank you for coming here."

      One of the guys I worked with had a similar experience, the older Korean gentleman said to him "Your country was willing to send its young men to come here and die to protect us." I think the ROK is a shining example of American military power used for the right reasons.

      The difference between the Korean war and our current debacle? The South was attacked and overrun by the North. We came in to defend, not to do a pre-emptive attack on an entire country.
      --
      Wu-Tang Name: Half-Cut Skeleton Get your own Wu-Na
    3. Re:Korea makes me proud to be an American. by jdhutchins · · Score: 2, Informative

      You can go to Cuba all you want. You just can't spend money there due to economic sanctions, unless you get a permit to exclude yourself from the sanctions.

  19. DPRK EMAIL? by PKC+Jess · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hey! Who took kimjongil@kcckp.net? What? AND kim_jong_il? :( Mind sharing the wealth? wait a minute... *later on* "Dear Dear Leader, So, Kim, how is every little thing? ~Jess"

  20. Bestsellers in the DPRK... by Ariane+6 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Exerpted from the top-selling title:

    DISTORTION OF US PROVOCATION OF KOREAN WAR

    PREFACE

    Since June 25, 2000, the 50th year since their unleashing the Korean War, the United States has been bent on grossly distorting the history of the war and will continue to do so until 2003, with a sinister aim to shift the blame for their war, the blame for their aggression, onto the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK).


    Holy #&$@ing shit, what a bunch of nutballs!

    Oh - and what's going to happen in 2003? This yankee imperialist running dog of capitalism wants to know!

  21. And others.... by jrumney · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There are others that have been around a while, this one seems to be set up by an expat group, but this one claims to be the official site of the DPRK government. Check the Welcome from Kim Jong-Il.

  22. check out the registration pull-down menus by js7a · · Score: 4, Interesting
    On the registration page, check out these two pull-down menus:

    Password hint question:

    The name of your best friend is ...
    The scenary I love most is ...
    My favorite movie star is ...
    How would Korea change after reunification?
    What will you do when Korea is reunified?

    My favorite movie is ...

    Nationality / citizenship:

    1. Korean
    2. Chinese
    3. German
    4. Russian
    5. Australian
    6. Bahrain
    7. Bangladesh
    8. Chinese [duplicate]
    9. Indian
    10. Indonesian
    11.Iranian
    12. Iraqi
    13. Israeli
    14. Japanese
    15. Jordan
    16. Kuwaiti
    17. Lebanese
    18. New Zealand
    ...
    52. Canadian
    53. Mexican
    54. American ["American"?]
    55. Argentinian
    ...
    97. Netherlander
    98. Portuguese
    99. Spanish
    100. English

    Apparently our sensitive alphabetical sorting technology has been sucessfully prevented from reaching the DPRK.

  23. uhm... by DraconPern · · Score: 4, Funny

    With this slashdotting, I wouldn't be surpried their next front page news is 'World attacks North Korea's computer infrastructure'..

  24. My nationality by ward.deb · · Score: 2, Informative

    "97. Netherlander" Those bastards misspell my nationality. It's either Nederlands or Dutch...

  25. No illicit drugs for sale? by Quirk · · Score: 2, Interesting
    from the CIA factbook: "...for years from the 1970's into the 1990's, citizens of the Democratic People's Republic of (North) Korea (DPRK), many of them diplomatic employees of the government, were apprehended abroad while trafficking in narcotics. In recent years, police investigations in Taiwan and Japan have linked North Korea to large illicit shipments of heroin and methamphetamine, with the attempt by the North Korean merchant ship Pong Su to deliver 125 kg of heroin to Australia in April 2003 the most recent example of Pyongyang's involvement in the drug trade. All indications point to North Korea emerging as an important regional source of illicit drugs targeting markets in Japan, Taiwan, the Russian Far East, and China."

    --
    "Academicians are more likely to share each other's toothbrush than each other's nomenclature."
    Cohen
  26. Has anyone else registered? by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 3, Interesting
    There's an English version of the registration page. According to that page,
    "When you gain "Naenara" user ID, your webmail address is automatically allocated. eg: your "Naenara" ID@kcckp.net."
    root, postmaster, and kimjongil were already taken. But as soon as I figure out how to use the webmail interface, I'm abuse@kcckp.net .. Leave it to Korea to ignore the abuse account :)
    --
    "BSD: Free as in speech. Linux: Free as in beer. Windows 10: Free as in herpes." --Man On Pink Corner in #52607549.
    1. Re:Has anyone else registered? by nkh · · Score: 4, Funny

      This webmail address is good for us: the NSA won't be able to read our e-mails anymore if it's located in North Korea!

    2. Re:Has anyone else registered? by jhunsake · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh yeah, well I'm hostmaster@kcckp.net. Bow down before I change your dns entry!

  27. Not the First Official Site by thelizman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Kim Jong Il has a weblog.

  28. 21 Century Gulags by ej0c · · Score: 4, Informative

    For a nice little tour of N. Korea, you might visit the report at hrnk.org

    A national policy of starvation, overwork, and torture. Newborns murdered on grounds of suspected genetic diversity. Imprisonment of three generation of an offender's family. A lifetime political prisoner population of 200,000 - more than all the US military in Iraq; more than all the people in a small industrial city.

    Claudia Rosette wrote a column when the report was released.

  29. Why is Slashdot Wasting Its Time with this Spoof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    If anyone had bothered to scratch the surface of this site a little, you would soon realise that this is a dummy spoof site set up and run by a German businessman who uses it as a "sweetener" to get computing business in North Korea (which is illegal under UN sanctions, I believe).

    He claims he is going to wire up North Korea via satellite - bul*shit!

    If you really want to provide your personal details to an unscrupulous German, then feel free - you must really like spam.

    It really does not deserve any further attention, other than to say "nice marketing ploy fella".

    Anyone for an "official" Ossama Bin Laden blog?

    Damian, UK

  30. I'm moving there by LNX+Flocki · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's it, I'm moving to North Korea. Look what their constitution says:

    Article 71

    Citizens have the right to relaxation. This right is ensured by the establishment of the working hours, the provision of holidays, paid leave, accommodation at health resorts and holiday homes at State expense and by a growing network of cultural facilities.


  31. Don't slashdot rogue nation-states! :) by FooAtWFU · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't slashdot North Korea! They've probably never been slashdotted, don't know what to expect. What if they think it's cyberterrorism and launch some of their missles?!? I hear some of those suckers are nuclear (or might be before long)! You guys want to start World War III or something?

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    The World Wide Web is dying. Soon, we shall have only the Internet.
  32. Re:Great by flossie · · Score: 3, Funny
    Is it really smart to send thousands of exploit riddled IE lusers to a website ran by a government that is known to actively conduct computer espionage?

    Do you mean sites like this or this?

  33. Give it 1 week by u-238 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Word will spread and some patriotic script kiddie with a huge bot net will flex his capitalistic pride and this website will be at the brunt of it.

    Mark my words.

  34. Re:Are you sure it's really from Korea? by Kane+Skalter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Now with clickable goodness! Here's the whois info. Damn, I should learn to preview.

  35. Constitution by Kenny.EXE+-P666- · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Am I the only one who finds it strange that the pages with the N. Korean constutition repeatedly praise a single individual? As screwed up as the United States is right now, (I liked the days with a Democratic president and a Republican Congress, government was so busy bitching at each other they left me and the American people alone. :) At least my constution begins with "We the People...." not "The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is the socialist motherland of Juche which has applied the idea and leadership of the great leader Comrade Kim Il Sung." This makes me happy I am in a first world industrialized nation.

  36. Interesting password hints by Desprez · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The password hint questions were an interesting change from the normal: mother's maiden name, pet's name, etc that we are so used to seeing from western/european registrations

    Here are the DPRK's registration password hint questions:
    The name of your best friend is...
    The scenery I love most is...
    My favorite movie star is...
    How would Korea change after reunification?
    What will you do when Korea is reunified?

    My favorite movie...

    (Emphasis mine)

    I'll say, they just can't resist packing in the propaganda and agenda into every square inch.

  37. Re:Is it true, the two Koreas reunified? by Melantha_Bacchae · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not completely, but they are actually working toward that goal.

    For instance, you will see one Korean team at the Olympics this summer under the banner of a united Korea.

    Despite the US being against it, a unified Korea is for the best. It would solve most of the problems currently posed by North Korea, including the nuclear one.

    Of course, then the US will have no need for troops in Japan or South Korea...

    "The path of peace is yours to discover for eternity."
    Japanese version of "Mothra" (1961)

  38. Next day in North Korean newspapers.. by varjag · · Score: 2, Funny

    As the new superior North Korean site was opened, hundreds of thousands of oppressed proletariat people of capitalistic world rushed for the only truthful information source available to them. Witness what those who immersed into refreshing spring of Juche ideas write:

    "They took my job to South Korea. Screw them!"
    --Peter Geek, 31

    "They don't even show Boy General here!"
    --Johny Underage, 13

    "Beautiful haircuts of North Korean women! I feel young again!"
    -- Al. D. Fart, 73 (ed. note: we believe this is a typo - people don't live that long)

    --
    Lisp is the Tengwar of programming languages.
  39. Hearsay? by sczimme · · Score: 5, Funny


    I propose a new word: heresay. It would be a portmanteau of 'heresy' and 'hearsay'.

    'Heresay' would be the practice of spreading false claims and attacking the local religious establishment based on secondhand information.

    --
    I want to drag this out as long as possible. Bring me my protractor.
  40. FYI: Worldwide Press Freedom Index... by plj · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...can be found here. Note: published at October 2002!

    Some countries of interest:

    1. Finland
    ...
    15. Switzerland & Costa Rica
    17. United States
    18. Hong Kong
    ...
    35. Taiwan
    ...
    38. Bulgaria
    39. South Korea
    40. Italy (the worst country of EU-15; hurrah, Berlusconi!)
    41. Czech Republic (back then not yet an EU member state)
    ...
    92. Israel (no Arab country performed in top 50, either)
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    104. Afghanistan (year after collapse of the Taliban regime)
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    130. Iraq (still Saddam's regime)
    ...
    138. People's Republic of China
    139. North Korea (the last one)

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    1. Re:FYI: Worldwide Press Freedom Index... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here's 2003's.

      1: Finland, Iceland, Netherlands, Norway (tie)
      ...
      11: Latvia
      12: Estonia,Slovakia,Switzerland, Czech Republic (tie)
      16: Austria
      ...
      30: Timor Leste
      31: Greece, United States of America (tie)
      33: Poland
      ...
      42: Ecuador, Spain (tie)
      44: Japan, Israel (tie)
      46: Madagascar
      ...
      48: Ghana
      49: South Korea
      50: Australia
      51: Bolivia, Macedonia (tie)
      53: Panama, Italy (still worst EU country) (tie)
      55: Peru
      ...
      59: Fiji, Romania (tie)
      61: Republic of China (Taiwan)
      62: Botswana
      ...
      122: Jordan, United Arab Emirates (tie)
      124: Ethiopia, Swaziland, Iraq (under Saddam Hussein) (tie)
      127: Democratic Republic of Congo
      128: India, Pakistan (tie)
      130: Palestinian Authority (under Yasser Arafat)
      131: Morocco
      132: Liberia, Ukraine (tie)
      134: Afghanistan
      135: Iraq (under George W. Bush)
      136: Yemen
      ...
      145: Maldives
      146: Palestinian Authority (under Ariel Sharon)
      147: Colombia
      ...
      160: Iran
      161: People's Republic of China
      162: Eritrea
      ...
      165: Cuba
      166: North Korea (dead last again)

      Last year, the report combined Israel's actions in all its territories; this year, they separated pre-1967 Israel from the West Bank + Gaza Strip, and did the same for the US in Iraq. It's interesting to see how relatively free democracies can act in war zones compared to their own people's cities. Also, I'm surprised to see India and Pakistan in the same spot. I thought India had a freer press than Pakistan. In 2002, they were 80th to Pakistan's 119th.

  41. Re:Is it true, the two Koreas reunified? by TRACK-YOUR-POSITION · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The current administration keeps talking like it wants to pull troops out of Korea, anyway. The troops there don't serve an actual military purpose--they only number 20,000 or so--their only purpose is to send a message that America will defend South Korea in any renewed conflict.

    I'm not saying that America's actions toward either Korea have always been snow white innocent (support for South Korean dictators in the name of stability comes to mind), or that America's policies towards North Korea make complete sense, but to suggest that America wants the conflict to continue so that we might maintain troops there--that's silly. The American troops stationed in Korea are sitting ducks. Sacrificial lambs. A human tripwire. An intentional Pearl Harbor/Alamo-style vulnerability. Okinawa's a different story--if Korea united tomorrow, I doubt America would feel a need to pull out of Japan.

  42. Whoops... by plj · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...sorry for being unjust; Finland actually shares the top position with Iceland, Norway and Netherlands. Immediately after this top four comes Canada.

    Btw, the Palestinian National Authority performed 82, above Israel itself. Forgot that, too.

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  43. Glad I'm not their sysop... by Phil+John · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...imagine what would happen if there was any downtime...I shudder to think.

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  44. /.ed by dirvish · · Score: 2, Funny

    This has to be a first. Slashdotted a country!

  45. Re:Is it true, the two Koreas reunified? by The+OPTiCIAN · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can't see the South Koreans loving the prospect of seeing their economy crumple to dust when they have to start providing for twenty two million new citizens with no first-world-economy skills.

    > It would solve most of the problems currently
    > posed by North Korea, including the nuclear one.

    There are plenty of problems with the notion of a unification of the two Koreas. This is why the South and the US are prepared to throw money at them to keep doing what they're doing and let the South continue on in stability, so longer as the north don't threaten that region's stability with a nuclear threat.

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  46. North-Korea's secret export-hit: cartoons by rainer_d · · Score: 2, Interesting
    This article (unfortunately in German) explains the details behind a strange and secret business North-Korea has been running for some time:
    It's producing animated cartoons of more or less famous characters. The work has been outsourced from Western companies, because NorthKoreans work cheaper than anybody else on this planet and produce good quality (which you probably can't always say for Chinese correction-facility-inmates, which are reportedly even cheaper).

    Next time you watch some Sunday-morning-cartoon, think a moment of those poor people in NK.

    Rainer

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  47. Re:Free Gmail invitation here by Petrol · · Score: 2, Informative

    Above link is a Goatse redirect.

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  48. Re:Finland is number one by grammar+fascist · · Score: 2, Informative

    If I recall correctly, one of the big "problems" the studies found with the US press is that they're expected to abide by the law like all the rest of us. There's no magical protection for them (though an awful lot of them think it). They can't get past police barriers, withhold tip-offs of impending terrorism (and other crimes) without legal repercussions, etc.

    How very sad for us. Somehow, I don't feel quite so bad about being 31.

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  49. I registered! by Ath · · Score: 2, Informative
    I gave them my home phone number and cell number. I am beginning to worry that it was not such a good idea.

    Actually, the site is pretty funny. Let's see, when you register you can select the occupation of "soldier", something I have never seen before. But I guess when 70% of your population fits that label...

    Or the page where they act as if Kim Il Sung is still alive (kind of). The guy died years ago and they are celebrating his 92nd birthday. The page says 1912-2004, as if they just recently decided to acknowledge his death.

    I just picture the people who put the site together. "We're finished!" And then they were shot.