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SCO Claims Linux Lifted ELF
fymidos writes "SCO has finally spoken. According to this linuxworld article, they claim that linux illegally uses the ELF binary format, the JFS filesystem, the init code and some more 'copyrighted Unix header and interfaces'. Finally SCO makes its move. The JFS part was expected of course, but according to the article, as far as the ELF format is concerned 'the Tool Interface Standard Committee (TISC) came up with a ELF 1.2 standard' and 'granted users a "non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free license" to the stuff'. Oh, and of course 'both Novell and the old SCO - as well as Microsoft, IBM and Intel - were on the committee'."
The beginning of the end! Finally!
Not sure what SCO has to do with Elf. Wait, nevermind. They've got truth elves, working from dusk till dawn, griding down the logic and confusing the masses with their cute looking elf outfits and fairy dust. My guess is that Santa Claus himself is somehow behind this latest SCO claim. It just seems like the more they open their traps, the lower their stock gets, so I'm all for many more of these kinds of press releases.
The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
I was wondering if SCO fell asleep or something... the SCO stories have slowed to a trickle, almost to the point of forgetting it's still going on!.
Man, we had so long without a SCO article that I thought I missed one about a small implosion in Utah.
Then you had to go ruin my blissful existance...
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
Make a claim that [insert feature] was stolen by Linux
Sue people/companies
Hopefully Profit!
Later on ...
Shareholders file a class action lawsuit against SCO.... I can dream, can't I?
but no one should ever toss a dwarf
SCO has gotten into the nasty habit of claiming ownership (and inventership) to damn near every obvious computer science practice known to man. They're like the software vendor's version of Kim Il Jong of North Korea. The guy claims to have invented the Internet, the television, radar, automobiles, and any other technology the country has.
Now, if SCO starts killing triplets...
Real SCO jocks use COFF, not ELF. 'Nuff said.
Some relative quiet on this article, as most of the Lunix wizards who normally hold forth on the provenance of every line of kernel code have no idea what ELF is. "Is it like GNOME?"
This is kinda like one of those really bad 80's B or C movies that just wouldnt end but you just had to watch it just to see how the bad guy gets it in the end. The funny thing is, we all know the ending. SCO ends up bankrupt and the laughing stocks of the business world, some of their exec's most likely end up behind bars or broke, and who knows what other horrors will befall this evil...
Blah, blah, blah....
SCOCON is currently "Absurd" and holding.
Hey! Good to see SCO is still alive and kicking!
...
Wait, no it's not!
<matrixrevolutions>DIE, ALREADY!</matrixrevolutions>
The charge was made by SCO VP of engineering Sandeep Gupta in a declaration that is currently under seal, but is quoted, albeit tersely, in the new filings.
Any relation to Dr Samir Gupta?
I was starting to have withdrawals. No SCO story in days. I didn't have my SCO fix. I thought no SCO story could only mean one thing: "SCO had figured out how to take over the world." At last, you fulfilled my deepest cravings for more SCO news and I can go on living in my beautiful world of FUD.
Thank you slashdot. Without my SCO updates, I don't think I could go on. My life would be in even more shambles than it already is. Even my dog would not speak to me (now, as for the wife, that might be a good thing).
Long Live SCO and FUD . Better than comics!
"...as far as the ELF format is concerned 'the Tool Interface Standard Committee (TISC) came up with a ELF 1.2 standard' and 'granted users a "non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free license" to the stuff'. Oh, and of course 'both Novell and the old SCO - as well as Microsoft, IBM and Intel - were on the committee'."
The patient is suffering from paranoid delusions. His accustation of persecution ("theft") despite having previously personally approved of the situation represent a psychotic dissocation from reality and should be construed as a negative hallucination. As such, the patient should be provisionally diagnosed as paranoid schizophrenia, and should be admitted for stabilization and observation, lest he become dangerous to himself or others.
Seriously, if SCO were a person acting this way towards other people in public, by now it'd be better than even money they'd have been put in hospital.
"I may be synthetic, but I'm not stupid." -- Bishop 341-B
Just when I thought I had that herpes problem licked...
IANAL, but I've seen actors play them on TV
SCO in the same breath as Edsel,
You misspelt Enron..................^
"Eve of Destruction", it's not just for old hippies anymore...
Because the entity currently known as SCO didn't exist at that time. Caldera wasn't founded until 1998.
I'm in a similar situation. I just bought an old AMC Pacer, so I'm suing everybody who saw Wayne's World because DaimlerChrysler exceeded their rights when they introduced such a butt-ugly car.
Well, knowing what I know about SCO (only what I read here and on groklaw)
Dude, then you know probably more than SCO's lawyers.
People said that I was crazy for keeping all of my programs in "a.out" format . . . WHO'S CRAZY NOW?
MOUNT TAPE U1439 ON B3, NO RING
I need to know, as I am conflicted.
On one hand, a good punch in the nose may do him good.
On the other hand, hasn't he suffered enough? Why add injury to insult?
hmm. Perhaps punching him in the nose until he is sad is the answer...
Decisions, decisions.
These guys ought to be tried and convicted for barratry, regardless of whether their legal counsel is this stupid or not.
Actually, if they're stupid enough to actually think that they're right, they wouldn't be guilty of barratry.
I look forward to a future case involving SCO with Darl trying to prove conclusively that he was too stupid to realize that his lawsuit was a load of BS.
May we never see th
You know, the facts never stopped Michael Moore, champion of the Left.
...but when Winston Churchill managed to make it sound profound.
Will there EVER really be an end though? SCO will probably lawyer themselves out of existence, but what is stopping some other greedy little twerp from pulling the same stunt with copyright claim or perhaps a software patent? (OK, I'll be fair, McBride isn't a little person)
It seems that even very obvious or simple ideas can be patented these days, which gives the patent holder a pretty effective legal weapon. Even without patents (after all, the central argument by SCO doesn't involve patent issues) the most flimsy and ridiculous claims can be brought before court, wasting everyone's time and money.
As long as there are lawyers without ethics or scruples (and the majority lack both) there will be no real end. Unfortunately, lawysers are quite resilient. If the bomb were ever to destroy civilisation, only cockroaches and lawyers would survive--and I'm sure one lawyer would sue another for millions and order him to exterminate the cockroaches at his expense.
* PE (Windows)
Hey, it stands for "portable executable", we might as well port it...
From: Sandeep Gupta
Date: Tuesday, july 20, 2004 12:53 AM
Subject: TRANSFER
Sandeep Gupta
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am fine today and how are you? I hope this letter will find you in the best of health. I am Sandeep Gupta, the VP of "Engineering", of the "Santa Cruz Operation (SCOX)", a subsidiary of the SCO Group (SCOX).
SCOSource (SCOX) was set up by SCOsource chief Chris Sontag, to manage the excess FUD accruing from Intellectual Property Claims and its allied products as a domestic increase in the Copyright products to develop the litigation in the Linux Lawsuit producing areas. The estimated annual revenue for 1999 was $45 Billion US Dollars Ref. FMF A26 Unit 3B Paragraph "D" of the Auditor General of the Federal Republic of Nigeria Report of Nov. 1999 on estimated revenue.
No, I can't do any more, it's too much like making fun of the mentally deficient.
Finally, we found those millions of lines of code. We just thought they were talking about source code and they were talking about compiled code. It all makes sense now...
The views expressed are mine own and do not express the views of my employer.
Is lifting elves anything like tossing dwarves?
I guess that they really are Sauron.
"One OS to rule them all and in the darkness bind them."
"Trademarks are the heraldry of the new feudalism."
Re: your sig. You fuck off.
The more you know, the less you understand.
...from the grassy knoll. You're point is??
-- Lifted this SIG from Linus himself. --
INSERT INTO comment VALUE('Doh!') WHERE user='you';
That man could read "Green Eggs and Ham" and it would sound profound.
Irritable, left-wing and possibly humorous bumper stickers and t-shirts
I thought we were waiting for them to stop speaking.
As of today, how much is SCO worth on paper? Even if we all know SCO on the mid-term (I'm thinking more like ... very short-term) is worth NOTHING.
How much money / Linux users do we need to make a hostile takeover of SCO? Once we have the control, we can shutdown SCO by using their own code... "init 5" !!!
This comment is (C)2004 under the GNU LGPL license. SCO, feel free to re-distribute this information to your shareholder assets -- Don't forget to keep the license part of this comment, otherwise we'll sue you!My current theory is that the copyrighted headers are actually as follows:
#define TRUE FALSE
#define FALSE TRUE
This would explain both their seriously messed up logic and their refusal to see that they don't have a case.
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
Claim your code is stolen,
Keep them lawsuits rollin'
mcbride!
There's no evidence for your case
Just lie with a straight face
We're spreadin' our FUD far and wide
Whine and pout, make it up
Make it up, drag it on,
Whine and pout, make it up
mcbride
Lie and shout, fud and spin,
fud and spin, lie and shout
Lie and shout, fud and spin,
mcbride!
Usually we brag when somthing is longer, not shorter!
It's mandatory to wash your hands before returning to the land of Dairy Queen.