History Of Doom Movie Debuts

Rogerpq3 writes "A G4/Tech TV feature on DOOM 3, offering a history of the DOOM franchise in the words of the folks at id Software. The clip can be found on the air on The DOOM Franchise, episode 310 of a series called 'Icons.' The piece offers clips from DOOM 3 and other games, interview footage, analysis and more, and for those without access to the program. You can download the movie at: 3DGamers, Doom3HQ, Doom3.de, Doom3maps.de, and FileShack. It's really worth the download for any Doom and id fans out there. (Thanks: BluesNews)"

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Something good on G4TechTv

[secondsun]

Does this mena that there will now be another good thing to watch on G4TTV? (The first being the back of my eyelids of course).

TechTV wasn't a GREAT network, but I never turned to it and felt like my brain was being removed from the back of my head. Now, post merger, the content is trite, the reviews are lame (but getting better at least), and the Screen Savers has passed into unwatchable. Maybe I am missing some show that comes on in my off time, but what is good on the network?

Re:Something good on G4TechTv

[gl4ss]

so.. they make a NERD SHOW not aimed at NERDS?

what's the point?

Re:Something good on G4TechTv

[chrispl]

And on top of that several of the hosts on TSS are actively promoting Linux and OSS to "the masses" every day.

I think its great when they are warning people about the latest MS bug, and note that the open source alternative is uneffected... then they cut to a microsoft commercial! Have to get some damage control in during the breaks I guess.

More Mirrors

[scifience]

I've put up a mirror of this, here:
http://www.scifience.com/g4_icons_doom3-hi.zip
My mirror will be live at about 9:40AM EDT; I am uploading the file now at 1000KB/s.

FilePlanet also has this:
http://www.fileplanet.com/files/140000/143505.shtm l

So does FileFront:
http://files.filefront.com/3469815;/pub2/Doom%203/ Media/Videos%20and%20Trailers/

Re:More Mirrors

[grappo666]

http://www.3dgamers.com/torrents/games/doom3/g4_ic ons_doom3-hi.zip.torrent

as well :)

Re:More Mirrors

[noisehole]

spare your bandwidth
torrent

currently:
seeds: 5 seen now, plus 0.982 distributed copies
peers: 9 seen now, 34.8% done at 378.8 kB/s

MIRROR on Gbit Server

[Anonymous Coward]

g4_icons_doom3-hi.zip on 1Gbit/s Server :) Get it while its hot!

history of dooom

[spacerodent]

Doom is such an integral part of gaming history. How many of you played it as your first game? How many of you remember the first modding tools? Or the joys of downloading your first TC? Anyone remember Aliens TC by Justin Fisher? That mod had better atmosphere and gameplay than most comercial games I've played. Fourty or fifty years down the line I bet our kids look back on doom as the Model T of PC gaming.

Re:history of dooom

[back_pages]

First game? Are you old enough to drive? I was born in 1980 and my first computer game was on a Vic-20. DooM as the Model-T of PC gaming? Are you watching Nickelodeon as you type? Over Christmas my much younger brother asked me what "Atari" was and couldn't believe that there were video games before the Playstation. Maybe you two could hang out.

Re:history of dooom

[I(rispee_I(reme]

oh, hell yes, Parsec! Also, I remember competing with my old school crew for the top score in TI Invaders, a shameless space invaders copy. If you go back that far, you probably already know that the TI-99/4A is emulated on numerous platforms anyone for a round of hunt the wumpus?

Re:history of dooom

[Jad LaFields]

I remember feeling the same way when my ex-girlfriend's brother asked me if the GTA games prior to GTA3 really were in 2D. Sheesh. I remember playing some games which didn't even have specialized pixels and instead used ASCII characters to represent your "tank" or "adventurer". (Albeit still well after some of you old-timers who remember when text-based games were "teh hottness".)

More on topic, I also remember getting grossed out by the blood when watching my dad play wolfenstein 3d (specifically how your little face icon would get increasingly more beat-up as your health decreased -- how awesome was that, you didn't even have to look at a health bar to know how badly you were doing!)

Of course, a few years later when I played Doom with my friends, there simply wasn't anything cooler than shooting a barrel with a bunch of enemies around it and watching that glorious two-second animation of them turning into bloody mush. The sound effect that accompanied that animation is still one of the most satisfying sounds in videogame history. =)

.torrent available

[zaphod.nu]

There is a torrent available here.

My Doom History

[mfh]

- First played doom on a 486 at my buddy's place
- His mother had to kick me out after playing on the family computer for 8 hours at a time
- Could not afford a system that could run Doom
- Finally got a p100 and bought Quake
- Headfirst into the mod community
- Made levels for Quake, Q2, Q3
- Mods include Thunderwalker 2, Allstar2 CTF, Painkeep Arena
- Invented Doom for Columbine that will likely never see the light of day (for obvious reasons)
- Decided to design Doom 3 mod tenatively called "Doom 3 Bloopers" where we have some fun modding the orginal game
- Still can't afford a computer that can play latest Doom Game

Re:My Doom History

[mfh]

> More details on those mods please! Especially Doom for Columbine and Doom 3 Bloopers. Just curious.

Doom for Columbine was in pre design for some time over at Sourceforge. We were going to try and do something to show that violent video games were not the cause of violent actions, but it was stupid to think that this would mean anything to anyone, and it was going to be far too difficult to do it in a tasteful way so that the victims families of the Columbine tragedy would not be hurt.

We tried several different designs out in concepts and none of them panned out. We looked at doing a mod where the main character was an undercover FBI agent trying to crack down on school gangs, and while it sounded good on paper, the display of extreme school violence still would have upset the families of the victims.

The other approach was to do a kind of nonviolent game where your goal was to obtain reputation by pranking different people in the school, but it seemed off-topic to do that, when the results of Columbine were so clear. Two students decided to wage war on their peers as a way of getting even for years of abuse. It was a tragedy that I think isn't too far in the history to warrant a mod using the game blamed for the violence in the first place.

Looking back, I would have liked to do a realistic Doom/Columbine mod that enabled people to go on shooting rampages in a school setting. This may sound outrageous, but we believed that the mod might enable students to get out some of their daily frustrations in a fairly realistic setting, before actually going as far as really killing students. The problem we faced was that of liability; if a student played our mod and decided they it was a good idea to start really killing students (you know, used free will) then there existed the possibility that we could be held responsible -- not that we should legally be held responsible for someone else's actions, but it would be a messy situation.

I guess our rights to do a mod using the Columbine theme exist, but we're not sure how to proceed with that. Suggestions are welcome if you want to see this mod made.

Meanwhile, because we're nerds, we've been looking at doing a bloopers mod for Doom 3, to make fun of the serious and scary theme Id Software spent millions putting together. Why? Because I think it will be easy enough to pull off without having any models people onboard. We can use existing models to create the mod, and as you may know it takes quite a bit of time to do even one Doom 3 model, let alone animate the damn thing. Plus, my experience tells me that models people are the least reliable type of team member because they generally get snapped up for big bucks when they are any good, thus leaving free projects desolate of talent above the age of 15.

The bloopers could be a total rewrite of the Doom 3 game, but by fouling up the script and making the levels dysfunctional. I think it would be funny as hell if chainsaw weilding enemies dropped their weapons during a crucial cutscene, or someone turned on the lights when a really scary part of the game came up. Or if the guys forgot or messed up their lines in the game...

The greatest need on that kind of project would be for voice talent. I could easily program all the events by simply changing and rearranging the scripted events. The dialog would be pretty damn funny and I could write most of it myself. Level alterations, I could do too.

Since I've been in the mod community, I've noticed that you just can't rely on people to work hard at something, unless they've got a good reason to.

The negative press we received for Doom for Columbine overshadowed what we were trying to do with it. It made it so it wasn't going to be fun to make that kind of mod. The negative press stole away any desire I might have had to do something with Columbine. But I really think a bloopers mod would be fun as hell to do, and it would be played by everyone if it was hilarious enough. Plus I wouldn't have to rel

Damnit

[Lisandro]

I think i'll just bash my head to the wall until i fall in a coma. That will help me get through these two weeks.

The wait is killing me!

Books

[bcwizard]

Let's not forget those great Doom books!

Re:Books

[Man of E]

And of course, don't forget the DOOM comic!

Interesing comments from Carmack

[agingGeek]

Alright, I will probably be modded down for this, but I still find it interesting as it validates something that I said about 2-3 years ago. Carmack stated on Icons:Doom that Doom was being developed with the Xbox in mind. They commented about having known before hand what the specifications and capabilities of the machine would be. We've seen the poor ports, and simpler interfaces, and now there is proof that even the best developers are curtailing themselves in order to keep things in line with the lowest common denominator. While this isn't necessarily a bad thing, it could sign the end of some mainstream PC style games. In particular, I have never truly enjoyed the sloppy, slow controls of FPS on consoles, nor have I ever enjoyed playing an rts on a console. Hopefully, if such a trend does occur, there will be a new movement of indies to come out and fill the void that could be created.

G4 sucks

[MacFury]

I used to watch TechTV quite often...atleast it was one of the few channels that I did watch other than comedy centrral and the history channel. Now I don't watch it. Who the hell wants to watch someone else play games to B grade music and video that has as much production value as a middle school class project...

Why must they destroy everything likable in the world...

Re:Wow! It's a wonder Doom went anywhere...

[fgb]

Believe it or not but when Doom first came out those same graphics were jaw-dropping. It's all a matter of perspective.

Re:History of Doom, eh?

[shplorb]

You've got your dates off by a year there!

Doom was released in 1993
Doom II was released in 1994
Quake was released in 1996

Re:Wow! It's a wonder Doom went anywhere...

[nkh]

I wouldn't say jaw-dropping. It was great but there already was a few games with some kind of photo-realism inside. It also had a huge success because you could had hours of fun discovering the maps and shooting aliens. There wasn't a lot of FPS when it came out, and the previous game (Wolfenstein) had a relatively small success as a shareware (only in the geeks world).

Same old * 2?

[DThorne]

I'll probably buy the game, yadda yadda, but *man* I find these games built around technology instead of story reek. So they hired a scifi writer? Big whoops - in the quickie excerpts I saw sad ripoffs of Alien(1-4), Blade 2, and they're even *obviously* ripping off the feel of Half Life. Yup, ID has always been about blowing things up, but it holds my interest for about a week. Instead of getting all worked up about poly counts(what made their jaws drop in 2002 are now common technology displays nowadays), would it hurt them to do something original again, like Doom 1?

I was around when all the Dooms came out, I was playing till the wee hours of the morning like everyone else...these guys are a part of gaming history, make no mistake. Watching these movies, I sorta felt like I was watching the Stones or Rush..."geez - you guys are *still* doing the same thing?".

They just have louder speakers...

DT

Re:ID software...how do you say the name?

[LMCBoy]

Rhymes with "lid". It's from the three parts of the mind in psychology (ego, superego, and id)
(IANAP).

Re:ID software...how do you say the name?

[Peter Cooper]

I know, this is shocking, I (and everyone I know) have always said ID as two separate letters. Always a shock when you learn the 'real' pronunciation for something. Just like when I found out 'jif' was the official pronounciation for GIF.. which really makes no bloody sense.

Every gamer?

[Peter Cooper]

In the video some guy says 'every gamer' is desperate to get their hands on Doom 3. This may generally be true of PC gamers, but I have some pretty savvy non-PC friends who get all the latest Xbox and PS2 games who've never heard of Doom (or, at least, may have screwed with Doom on the PCs back at school, but have no idea there's a number 3 due out). I think we tend to overrate ourselves here in the PC sphere..

Re:ID software...how do you say the name?

[Anonymous Coward]

I say that the official pronunciation should be struck down. The G is for graphics, not jraphics. Guh!

Re:Wow! It's a wonder Doom went anywhere...

[uhlume]

Nope, only the "floor" and "ceiling" were blank/unshaded -- walls and doors were all fully texture-mapped. Aside from texturing floors and ceilings, Doom primarily excelled over Wolfenstein in its geometry -- with Doom they went from Wolfenstein's 2-dimensional maps to a "2.5D" engine which allowed them to create floors and ceilings at arbitrary elevations, allowing much more flexibility in architecture, with features like stairs and vaulted ceilings, as well as walls at angles other than 90 degrees. It still didn't allow full 3D architecture, however -- floors and ceilings could only be horizontal, and room-over-room architecture was impossible (you could map any level perfectly in two dimensions, using only a single plane).