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Lawyers In Space...

colonist writes "The Christian Science Monitor presents an interesting overview of space law. Some want space to be shared by all: 'Outer space is a province of all mankind. There is not, and should not be, any privatization of outer space. It is a common thing that should belong to all.' Some people have claimed parts of the moon or Mars. In response, a lawyer has claimed the sun, 'to show how ridiculous a property-rights system in outer space would be if it were based solely on claims unsubstantiated by any actual possession.' The Space Settlement Initiative wants official recognition of land claims made by those who establish human settlements on the moon or Mars."

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  1. I have dibs! by BaldGhoti · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dibs on Uranus!

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    1. Re:I have dibs! by lildogie · · Score: 2, Funny

      > Dibs on Uranus!

      Obligatory goatse link [censored]

  2. It had to be said by caston · · Score: 1, Funny
    Who's gonna be the first to own uranus?

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  3. Obligitory...... by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 3, Funny

    What do you call 100 lawyers on the moon?



    A good start.

    1. Re:Obligitory...... by whiteranger99x · · Score: 1, Funny

      What do you call 100 lawyers on Mercury?

      A better finish. ;)

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  4. Headline dissappointed me.... by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 5, Funny

    Damn, and here I thought I was about to read about a proposal to kick all the lawyers off the planet!

    1. Re:Headline dissappointed me.... by NETHED · · Score: 4, Funny

      Me too. I was imagining briefcases full of worthless paper, gavils, and thier owners floating up in space.

      And about the BMWs, leave them here for me.

      I'd let them increase my taxes if they got rid of the lawyers. But alas, never going to happen as the tax increasers (politicians) are lawyers.

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    2. Re:Headline dissappointed me.... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1, Funny

      Q: How many lawyers can you fit in an airlock?
      A: Who cares, you can cycle it again, and again, and again...

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    3. Re:Headline dissappointed me.... by TheLoneCabbage · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah great! You know what would be better engineers running this country!

      Of course then NOTHING would ever work again, but we'd all have fun trying to figure it out!

      Sheesh can you imagine the tax forms, their complicated now, can you imagine what would happen if we putt Mechanical Engineers in charge?

    4. Re:Headline dissappointed me.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Thank you for your non-idiocy. However, I find myself wondering why you're posting to slashdot.

  5. Send ALL the lawyers into space by The+UberDork · · Score: 0, Funny

    Send ALL the lawyers into space ... spacesuits not required.

  6. So can I sue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    So can I sue this lawyer if I get skin cancer?

    1. Re:So can I sue by garcia · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sure, and he will claim that you owe him money for using his rays without consent/payment.

    2. Re:So can I sue by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 2, Funny

      He better pay the licensing fees on my new patent "How to make skin brown by lying in the Sun" first. YOU ALL BETTER PAY DAMMIT!

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    3. Re:So can I sue by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 2, Funny

      At the very least, he could probably be charged with maintaining an attractive nuisance.

      Nah, he'd just have the judge declare that it didn't have jurisdiction over the Sun.

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  7. Lawyers in DEEP space by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

    - Hal..
    - HAL?!
    - Yes Dave
    - Let me in, I have a case to prosecute
    - I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that

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  8. Sent hurtling into the sun by alanxyzzy · · Score: 1, Funny
    Seeing the phrase "Lawyers in Space" reminds me of the old Star Trek: The Lost Episode joke
    (Riker) "Good God captain! Those are humans floating straight toward the Borg ship with no life support suits ! How can they survive the tortures of deep space ?!"

    (Data) "I don't believe that those are humans sir, if you will look closer I believe you will see that they are carrying something recognized by twenty-first century man as doe skin leather briefcases, and wearing Armani suits"

    (Riker and Picard together horrified) "Lawyers !!"

    (Geordi) "It can't be. All the Lawyers were rounded up and sent hurtling into the sun in 2017 during the Great Awakening."

  9. encryption by vinnythenose · · Score: 1, Funny

    So now that he owns the sun, can he claim that our use of the light and UV radiation from the since is illegal decryption of a private algorithm and therefore illegal under the DMCA?

    That sunburn is proof enough that you decrypted our signal without licensed tools!

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  10. Re:Star Registry by Surak_Prime · · Score: 1, Funny

    Silly - he doesn't need to build an OFFICE on the sun for that. All the billing has been farmed out to India!

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  11. Re:Possession != Right by scotch · · Score: 3, Funny

    I predict that in 500 years, you'll be dead. The Indians will get the last (spiritual) laugh - ownership is an illusion.

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  12. Not only that... by aussersterne · · Score: 5, Funny

    He is currently pushing for the DMRA (Digital Millenium Ray Act) that will dictate how and when you are allowed to use those rays, even though you have paid for them and even though they are broadcast into your own space regardless.

    Technology is under development that will strictly govern the ways in which you are able to use his sun's rays, and will monitor your ray use for marketing purposes and of course to ensure that you aren't pirating rays.

    Any circumvention of this control on your use of rays or any unauthorized use of rays, even those that filter through your windows uninvited, will be a federal solar system offense, punishable by up to 15 years in a federal solar system prison and a 1,000,000,000 fine.

    Such stiff penalties are necessary because of the vast quantities of solar radiation involved, which, if totaled, represents a truly staggering amount of currency. In fact, the sun's owner estimates that he loses over $1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000 per year to unauthorized and unpaid for photon use, not to mention such black-hat practices as the storing of solar radiation using contraband such as solar cells or the growing of plants from pirated photon streams, which can then be consumed later for energy, with the net effect that the individual in question eventually gains solar energy without having licensed or paid for it.

    "We're working hard to ensure that everyone is complying with the law and can enjoy the sun's rays safely and legally, while still supporting the sun," says the sun's owner. Privately, though, he hints that the loss of revenue due to unpaid for photon use may eventually destroy the giant, causing it to go red and eventually fade into a much smaller, more dense star.

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  13. Hitchhikers Guide? by killeena · · Score: 2, Funny

    "People should wear protective sun screen, sun glasses, sun hat and drink plenty of water in order to avoid these inconveniences - but, if somebody were to sue me for damage provoked by the Sun, I do not think any court would be that unwise to consider their claims. By recognizing that I am responsible for the damage from the Sun, the court would implicitly recognize that I do indeed own the Sun - which is ridiculous".

    Sounds like something that Douglas Adams would write about, earthlings trying to own everything they can, heh.

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  14. Re:Your Sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny
    ... his fellow Al Quaidians ...
    Al Quaid, get your ass to mars!
  15. Re:Possession != Right by CreatureComfort · · Score: 2, Funny


    Actually, you have hit one what I have thought the real solution to these jokers has been all along. As soon as someone tries to make money off of any of these claims (charging NASA for "parking" on Eros, claiming trespass for missions landing on the moon or mars, etc.), we should see tax law revised to consider these rights as real property taxable in the jurisdiction in which the owner lives. Tell the guy who is trying to charge NASA for parking, sure, here's your $10,000, but we have determined the value of your asteroid at $80B, and you owe back property tax to the tune of the last 3 Federal Budget deficits.

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  16. that's alright! by kobaque · · Score: 2, Funny

    By all means, put them in space. Send them on the ships.. but make sure their uniforms are red shirts.

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  17. We DO own the space. by io333 · · Score: 2, Funny

    There is not, and should not be, any privatization of outer space. It is a common thing that should belong to all.

    Total Bullshit. Ownership of the space and all contained within a sphere from the Sun to the Ort cloud is the NATURAL RIGHT of the original inhabitants of this solar system: Us. If any deliquent ET tries to slip in through a wormhole in the middle of the night while we're sleeping we have every right to BLAST it!

    This is just a logical extension of the Monroe Doctrine: The Io333 Doctrine.

  18. Squatter's Rights by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 2, Funny

    I would expect squatter's rights to have presidence in most cases - unless, of course, 'moon men' or 'native martians' show up with the titles to the land.

    My question is, how did we go from nomadic tribesmen to our current property based system? Perhaps that would be instructive for future outer space explorers, realters and land speculators.

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