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Emergency Alert System Insecure

glebe writes "The U.S. Emergency Alert System used to issue disaster warnings and other alerts over T.V. and radio is vulnerable to spoofing and denial-of-service attacks, SecurityFocus is reporting. Apparently, 'the EAS was built without basic authentication mechanisms, and is activated locally by unencrypted low-speed modem transmissions over public airwaves.' The FCC acknowledged the security issues yesterday in a public notice seeking comment on the future of the system."

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  1. Dear FCC by mfh · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear FCC,
    Since you asked, I thought I would weigh in with my comments about The U.S. Emergency Alert System (EAS). I think it's appalling that anyone with a 14.4 could tap into this system and alter it for their own aims. The whole system could be crashed by terrorists during an attack, compounding the devastation of any terrorist attack by cutting off access to the system, or providing false and possibly deadly information. For example, during the 9/11 attacks the EAS could have directed people to return to their desks in the WTC, magnifying the losses suffered that day.

    I suggest you rebuild the EAS and take it offline until such a time that it can be secure.

    >... the EAS is designed to allow the President to interrupt television and radio programming and speak directly to the American people in the event of an impending nuclear war, or a similarly extreme national emergency.

    With the audio capabilities available today, it would be quite possible to dupe the public into thinking they were listening to George Bush, when in fact they were listening to the words of Osama bin Laden. And with the stuff Bush has been saying lately, the public might actually believe it was Bush no matter how insane the babble was!

    Somehow you would want to have a method for ensuring the audio was legit, encrypted and unaltered. I'm sure there are many ways to do this today, so I'm not really sure why you're asking me! Throw up a bunch of secure pipes and give the president access to them. Come up with a way to keep his message secure. Yeah, it's going to be expensive, but not as costly as 80,000 employees of the WTC returning to their offices because the EAS said it was "just a test".

    Kind Regards,
    Scott

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    1. Re:Dear FCC by Detritus · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I suggest you rebuild the EAS and take it offline until such a time that it can be secure.

      That's not a good idea. The system is currently used for many events less catastrophic than World War III, like severe weather warnings.

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    2. Re:Dear FCC by Egonis · · Score: 2, Informative

      Common knowledge in replacing a server is that you build a new one, and switch to it when ready -- thus, not interrupting a critical service.

    3. Re:Dear FCC by Gary+Destruction · · Score: 2, Insightful
      the EAS is designed to allow the President to interrupt television and radio programming and speak directly to the American people in the event of an impending nuclear war, or a similarly extreme national emergency.
      I doubt that the President would tell anybody about an impeding nuclear war. That would just create panic and hysteria.
    4. Re:Dear FCC by MasterSLATE · · Score: 3, Informative

      In regards to your mention of Sept. 11....

      As a NYC area citizen who was affected by that tragedy, I would like to point out that at no time during the day did the EAS even get used, at least in my view. I never saw it go off on any of the many channels we were flipping through.

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  2. tornado sirens too? by jrockway · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've always thought things like this were insecure. When I was in
    high school, I wanted to make a device to activate the tornado siren.
    I figured I could just implement a simple replay attack. I never got
    around to researching what frequency the signal was broadcast on, and
    I didn't know how to record the signal once I knew where to get it
    from. But it seems simple:
    record when they do the monthly test, replay whenever. Panic everyone. Good
    fun.

    Apparently if you modify various bits you can make them play different
    sounds and even broadcast voice. Plenty of fun to be had there.

    If anyone has done anything like this, I'd be interested in knowing,
    just so I don't have to get myself hauled off to jail trying to do it
    myself :)

    fp?

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    1. Re:tornado sirens too? by JAD+lifter · · Score: 5, Funny



      Somewhat maybe related... In high school we had those fire alarms that have the handle that you pull down to trigger the alarm. Well, as one of my unlucky (and stupid) friends found out; when you pulled the alarm a big blast of marking dye shot out covering your hand, arm, torso, face and everything else with a blue/black stain that was almost impossible to wash off. Needless to say he was found and busted within minutes of pulling the alarm.

    2. Re:tornado sirens too? by Kris_J · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just build a big brightly lit sign with "Core explosion. Repent sins" -- that should make everyone nervous.

  3. Okay... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    10 bucks for whoever can get all of Nevada to evacuate due to imminent flooding.

  4. US Officials realized this... by bdigit · · Score: 5, Funny

    after a mysterious color purple alert was issued. Officials believe it was the work of slashdot user outraged at the horrible color schemes on the popular news for nerds website.

    1. Re:US Officials realized this... by Exatron · · Score: 2, Funny

      Meh. Anyone can do purple alerts. I'm planning on spoofing a plaid allert.

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  5. We interupt this program . . . by homeobocks · · Score: 5, Funny

    to give you this emergency message: ``Are your mortgage rates skyrocketing? Are your sexual organs too small? Do you have more money than brains? You can solve all of these problems by purchasing SUPER-VIAGRA! . . . and something about a tornado.''

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  6. I can see it now by Billobob · · Score: 2, Funny

    Conan + EAS + Bush picture + manlips = endless possibilities...

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  7. So... by sockonafish · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...how long until primetime television is interrupted so that we may be informed that 'all your base are belong to us'?

    1. Re:So... by w9wi · · Score: 2, Informative

      - The data rate and modem tones used are non-standard. (though public knowledge) One could build one's own encoder, but you won't do it easily with off-the-shelf parts.

      - Stations are only required to forward EAN ("we're about to be nuked"), EAT ("OK, I guess we *aren't* going to get nuked"), and RMT. (monthly test) Many stations don't relay any other alert. (then again, many do)

      - Stations are not required to automatically forward *anything*. They may hold even EAN/EAT/RMT for a few minutes, long enough to not relay if it's an obvious hoax. (then again, many stations *do* automatically forward everything)

      - The larger the station, the less likely it will forward an alert without reviewing it for validity.

      - Stations are required to monitor at least two sources of EAS data. To spoof a manned station, you'd need at least two transmitters.

    2. Re:So... by M-G · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Stations are required to monitor at least two sources of EAS data. To spoof a manned station, you'd need at least two transmitters.

      Good info up until that statement. The reason you're required to monitor at least two stations is for redundancy, not confirmation.

      With EBS, you only monitored one upstream station, creating a weak link. EAS requires multiple sources to prevent this problem, but doesn't cross-check the other sources.

      Think of a weather warning, where the local NWS office issues an EAS alert. All stations monitoring NOAA weather radio in the area will receive it. Some will relay it. A small station will likely get the alert direct from NOAA and from another station they monitor. So even if a station did verify with two sources, a single spoofed alert could give them two identical alerts.

  8. A good reason *not* to keep these things secret by Flexagon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is yet another example why keeping infrastructure details secret is a bad idea. It's security through obscurity in the real world, and removes any incentive to actually fix these things. Now that there is a public report about it, there's at least a chance that pressure can be brought to bear, and get it fixed.

    1. Re:A good reason *not* to keep these things secret by RadioTV · · Score: 3, Informative

      This system is not now and never was a secret. You can go to any TV or radio station and talk to any broadcast engineer, announcer, master control operator or station manager. They all can explain the basics of how the system works.

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    2. Re:A good reason *not* to keep these things secret by Digital+Avatar · · Score: 5, Informative

      Not only that, but you can find the format for EAS messages on Wikipedia, along with an overview of SAME headers and messages.

      EAS has never been a secret. Neither was EBS, nor CONELRAD. HAND.

    3. Re:A good reason *not* to keep these things secret by 0racle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Encryption does not hide the fact that a message exists, it just alters what the text appears to be. Also, a principle in cryptology for some time has been, "The general system must not be a secret." Today that can be restated, "The algorithm must not be a secret." So not only is the fact that there is a message, but the way the message was altered is also known. With these knowns, encryption is not 'security through obscurity' since that term relates to hiding the fact that there are problems, something you can not do with encryption.

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    4. Re:A good reason *not* to keep these things secret by jrockway · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here's security through obscurity:

      Frgw ocpw ap. a egmxugjt!

      You don't know what I said, but as soon as you figure out my algorithm you will. And you'll know what anyone else using that algorithm said. That's security through obscurity.

      On the other side of the coin, is SSH2 Key-based authentication. I can tell you exactly how that works, but that knowledge won't let you log into my computer. You need the key. That's real security.

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  9. Yup by mfh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well the above letter was kind of a joke. I mean, there were flames shooting out of the buildings!

    But the seriousness of the insecure EAS could have been much more deadly. Like if a nuke was detonated and people were told that some city was safe to return to, even when in reality a bunch of nuclear fallout was starting to cling to everything within miles of the blast.

    I'm not sure how effective hacking the EAS would be, but I am damn sure I wouldn't want to find out. I say, take it offline until they can secure it (and I don't mean by getting Diebold involved).

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    1. Re:Yup by Rich0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, it is likely that some percentage of the population would survive a war. Sure, nobody within a mile of a detonation is likely to be alive, but further out if you have cover and a supply of iodine, safe food, and water, you'll have a chance to make it.

      In any population there will be those who are more tolerant of radiation that others. A nuclear war will simply select for humans who can tolerate these conditions. Sure, mankind will probably live in the stone ages for a thousand years or more, but eventually things will clean themselves up enough for civilization to re-emerge.

      I wonder what such a society would be like? It would have some knowledge from the high-tech past, but little means of employing most of it...

    2. Re:Yup by Alioth · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The BBC TV film "Threads" (made in 1983) had a go at describing it. The film was made at the height of public 'nuclear paranoia', and apparently makes "The Day After" look like a soap opera by comparison (I've not seen "The Day After" so I can't really comment on it).

      "Threads" is the most depressing film I've ever seen. When I originally saw it (aged 12) I had to turn off the TV right after the nuclear attack happened and couldn't sleep for weeks because it made me realise what nuclear war was about - I hadn't even barely understood until then. I recently got it in DivX form off a friend and watched it all the way through. It is not a film that comes under the heading "entertainment".

      There is a good synopsis here: http://www.ibp-intl.demon.co.uk/nuke/threads.html

      The leaflets the UK Government were publishing at the time (when we all thought nuclear war was basically inevitable - it was when not if - and we had no control over it; it was largely an American or Russian decision whether the world should be scorched): http://www.cybertrn.demon.co.uk/atomic/

      If you google around a bit, there are some quite good descriptions of the UK's (long-dismantled) emergency warning systems - it was multiplexed on the same phone lines as the Speaking Clock and could basically start and stop the sirens centrally. The UKWMO (also now defunct, described in the 'Protect and Survive' URL above) controlled the 'all clear' etc. signals.

  10. good fun by Frostalicious · · Score: 2, Funny


    Use this to replay a nation wide brown note. Also good fun. Buy stock in American Standard.

  11. Not a big deal... by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 2, Funny
    I mean it's not like anybody would actually.....

    Oh my god! The russians are attacking!!!!!

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  12. That thing is for real ? by Ralconte · · Score: 3, Insightful

    During the 9-11 attacks, did that beep come on the TV and radio? Some commedians have joked that it didn't so I don't know. I got my news from the web -- bbc.co.uk was fairly, and the local radio announcers gave the info as they saw it. Did the gov't even try to use the Emergency Alert System? Seriously, I thought the alert was just for a nuclear attack by the USSR, never ment to be anything more than that -- a useless anachronism since the 1970's. Sounds like another group of buearucrats who want some of the Patriot Act resources to pad a sagging budget.

    1. Re:That thing is for real ? by tabacco · · Score: 2, Informative

      I believe it's also used for more localized alerts like "Tornadoes are coming" and "Whoops, the chemical plant up the street just started leaking toxic gas."

    2. Re:That thing is for real ? by c0dedude · · Score: 2, Informative

      No. It was not activated. Check the 9/11 commission report. It isn't just for a nuclear attack by the soviets anymove. Check it out here.

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    3. Re:That thing is for real ? by KDLynch · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It did not go off at our radio stations during 9/11 .. but then we are nowhere near any of the places that were attacked. However, it is used. We have had it go off for weather emergencies, and for Amber Alerts to find potentially kidnapped children. (In both cases locally, the children were found within an hour of the alert being broadcast.) So, not quite useless... but could be used better than it is. Oh, and we had to pay for all the equipment, and the changeover in equip from the EBS to the EAS. So no fed moneys come to us to pay for it. On another note, we do not monitor every possible frequency out there for carrying forward EAS alerts... someone wanting to "hack into the system" would have to also know the exact frequencies we do monitor, and override those freqs... not that that's too hard to figure out, but it's another wrench in the way. KDLynch

    4. Re:That thing is for real ? by Rich0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I heard that in one of the Dakotas they had a chemical disaster and the police tried for an hour to get an annoucement over the air. Turns out that all the local broadcast stations were remotely managed from 1000 miles away and nobody could get ahold of anyone who could put an annoucement on the air. Gotta love radio station consolidation...

  13. Old news... by ktakki · · Score: 4, Informative

    Almost two years old, in fact:

    http://www.securityfocus.com/news/613

    I'm sure one could find even earlier discussions of this vulnerability.

    k.

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  14. Old news. by dj245 · · Score: 2, Informative

    It was reported two years ago. We'll probably hear about it in 2006 too, unless someone takes advantage of it.

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  15. not only unencrypted but a public spec by js7a · · Score: 4, Informative
    the EAS digital signal is the same signal that the National Weather Service (NWS) uses on the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Weather Radio (NWR).
    -- www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/eas.html

    NWR Specific Area Message Encoding (SAME)

    Full spec (pdf)

  16. Look on the bright side... by mabu · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm sure it's nothing Halliburton or Diebold can't fix for $400 Million via a no-bid contract.

    If they went public with this, I'd bet good money it's a precursor to an already set up proposal from a well-connected contractor who wants to ride the wave of public fear all the way to ten times the cost of fixing it.

  17. If it ain't broke... by Cranx · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...don't fix it.

    Seriously. We don't have to coat everything in 50 feet of kevlar, spaced 100 feet apart and communicating with 1GB encryption keys.

    Unencrypted broadcasting modem: scales well and very cost-effective.

    1. Re:If it ain't broke... by PingPongBoy · · Score: 2, Funny

      After all the slashdot publicity it'll be broke

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  18. Well, Yeah. by c0dedude · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When it was made, that wouldn't have been a problem. It was put in to repeat a message sent in the event of soviet nuclear attack. Each node would relay to all the other nodes. Of course, modem technology was rather scarce at the time, so security wasn't the top concern. This thing was never designed for security.

    This is one of the few times where I can see hacking as terrorism. If you hack this, you are, in my eyes and in those of the law, a terrorist. Leave this one be.

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  19. In search of the perfect dam by syrinje · · Score: 4, Insightful
    First of all, a small clarification - I agree that critical, life-saving infrastructure must be secure. That unauthorized access to these systems must be prevented. That public confidence in the sources of information is key to saving lives in the event of a disaster - and hence must be guaranteed to be genuine. A 100% of the time.

    That said - don't y'all sprain yer hamstrings to jump up and point fingers at the "government" or twist this into an open-source vs. closed source issue.

    Every system is designed in relation to its operating environment. The EBS was originally designed for a far more benign environment than exists today. I bet the primary goal of the designers was to come up with a system that was simple and effective and would work even if large parts of the power grid and the telephone network collapsed. It is inconceivable that they did not ask themselves if they needed bullet-proof authentication mechanisms - it is equally probable that they discarded that requirement as being potentially failure-prone. Given the fairly benign security environment that they designed for, and given the technology available and the overarching goal of simplicity - they cam up with what is really quite functional.

    And then the world changed (surprise, surprise). the environment that surrounded the EMS changed, rapidly and unpredictably. Where previously it was safe to assume that natural disasters would bring people in the community together to work in co-operation to face the threat, we now wonder which sleeper cells activate in these situations. The comfortable security blanket of yore that RipVanVinkle aka RVV dozed is suddenly yanked off - exposing us to the elements.

    Its like waking up one day in the shadow of a dam and suddenly seeing a thousand leaks in it. The small leaks have always been there - all dams leak and sweat a little. But now we know that there are people out there that seek to widen the cracks and stuff them with C4 and stick some fulminate in them (amazing how much chemistry you can pick up from the newspapers isnt it?). So RVV franctically tries to seal the leaks in the dam. Paranoia? Perhaps.

    The real tragedy is that the time that should be spent tending to his crops, playing with his children, making hot, sweaty love to his wife and dreaming big dreams in his afternoon nap is now spent in searching and classifying and closing the leaks in the dam.

    Will RipVanVinkle make his dam perfect? Can any dam be made perfectly leak free? Go figure.

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  20. Emergency Broadcast System problems by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative
    The previous system, the Emergency Broadcast System, was based on two components - teletype messages to broadcast stations, and secondary broadcast stations monitoring "primary" broadcast stations for an alert tone.

    On February 21, 1971, an alert message announcing a nuclear war was sent over the teletype network by accident. Somebody at NORAD loaded the wrong paper tape. Almost no stations broadcast the message. One station in Florida actually did. After that, NORAD lost their authority to send emergency action messages on their own.

    The current system has more input sources than the old one did. There are weather alerts, and now even child abduction alerts. If there's ever a phony message, it will probably come from some "authorized" input source.

    A detailed history is here.

    1. Re:Emergency Broadcast System problems by RadioTV · · Score: 2, Informative

      This brings up a good point. At the two stations (one FM and one TV) that I support the only alert that get automatically inserted are tornado warnings for our county - incase the operators had to run for cover. Everything else is interpreted by a live operator and the appropriate information is included in our broadcast.

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    2. Re:Emergency Broadcast System problems by fwc · · Score: 4, Interesting
      In a "previous life" I did some work for a radio station, including some stuff in relation to the old EBS system.

      The previous poster is correct. There were actually two tones (853 and 960 Hz) which were broadcast at the same time for 22.5 seconds. By using two tones it prevented false detection. Usually. I built more than one EBS detector during that period with a couple of Tone detectors (NE567 if I remember correctly) and an and gate and a 555 timer to not alert unless the tone was on for more than 10 seconds or so. This was primarily used in later years for local emergencies such as tornadoes. However, for nationwide emergencies another system was used.

      Each station had a "big red envelope". The station I worked for had it at the operator position in the main control room. Digging around the internet I found this site which has a picture of an envelope from 73. I remember the newer ones (about 1991) being better printed, but about the same. The envelopes were sealed and were not to be opened unless the station received an EBS message via teletype which needed to be authenticated. This envelope was replaced on a regular basis.

      At some point during the period I was around the station I asked the owner about the envelope, and he related the story about the February 1971 activation. Evidentally he was on duty when the message came in. (Looks like there's a copy of the message up on this site). He opened the envelope and checked the authenticators. Now you have to realize that everyone pretty much knew that the only likely reason for the nationwide system to be activated was nuclear war. Saying that he was rather worried by this message is an understatement. I can't remember if he complied with the warning or if it was called off fast enough that he didn't have to, but I do remember he was either ready to shut down or did.

      If you google for "1971 EBS Activation", You will find some other stories about this event.

  21. It isn't as bad as it sounds. by Kiryat+Malachi · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, its based on low-speed modem transmissions over public airwaves. What wasn't mentioned is:

    The low-speed transmissions are done by 'primary' stations, who have big transmitters. 'Secondary' stations choose primary stations to monitor, and retransmit the alerts the primary stations transmit.

    The low-speed transmissions are done on their broadcast frequency.

    So, you know what you need to exploit this? Locally, you need to know which local station(s) is/are primary, and a transmitter big enough to override the monitored signal, or a group of transmitters big enough to override the monitored signal at each of the monitoring antennas.

    Nationally, you would need to do this for EVERY primary station.

    It isn't perfect, but its actually pretty reasonable security. A far bigger threat would be someone who could inject a believable warning into the primary systems, and even there, I'm not so certain its really a worry (see: 1970s NORAD mistake that no one broadcast).

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    1. Re:It isn't as bad as it sounds. by SagSaw · · Score: 2, Informative

      So, you know what you need to exploit this? Locally, you need to know which local station(s) is/are primary, and a transmitter big enough to override the monitored signal, or a group of transmitters big enough to override the monitored signal at each of the monitoring antennas.

      It's quite a bit simpler than that. Let's assume I want to get a message out to a large (local) audience via EAS. In most areas, the cable TV system will broadcase EAS alerts on all channels (or at least sound an alert tone and advise viewers to switch to a particular channel, which then carries the alert message). This means that all I have to do is inject the message into the system of the local cable provider.

      "Over-riding" the signal of whatever station they monitor is not that difficult. All you have to do is be physically close to their receiver and have a reasonable amount of power. I imagine that, at most, 5W-50W is all that would be needed in most cases. 5W is easily provided by a hand-held radio and 50W or more can be found in off-the-shelf mobile transceivers.

      If you don't know what station the cable company monitors, or where the receiver is physically located, it might get a bit more difficult, but not much. In this case, simply try every station/location in order of likelyhood.

      All this assumes, of course, that the cable provider uses an automated system. If their system involves a real-live human reading the message prior to broadcase, your message would have to be believable enough to pass a cursory sanity check.

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    2. Re:It isn't as bad as it sounds. by evilviper · · Score: 2, Insightful
      So, you know what you need to exploit this? Locally, you need to know which local station(s) is/are primary, and a transmitter big enough to override the monitored signal

      Which isn't difficult at all...

      Once you're a few miles away from the multi-megawatt signal, a transmitter of a few watts can over-power the signal locally.
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  22. Emergency Alert System Insecure -- a phase by jeephistorian · · Score: 3, Funny

    Its just a phase. I was insecure too when I was tht young.

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  23. Re:Go ahead and fuck with the system by Spad · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't think that the people you need to be concerned about gaining access to the system are really going to care about prison sentences.

  24. Been following EAS/EBS for a while... by Etcetera · · Score: 4, Informative


    It truly was designed for a different era, but has its uses even today. Virtually all weather emergency bulletins are sent out via the EAS protocols today, which doesn't normally affect people in, say, Silicon Valley, but makes a big difference in Tornado Alley and in Florida right now.

    A few miles from here there was a fire at a chemical factory in La Mesa, CA... I was sitting there watching something on a high-cable channel when I hear a tone and see scrolling text at the top of the screen advising me to evacuate the area. Thank you EAS, and thank you Cox Cable.

    When San Diego had its Cedar Fire in 2003 (largest fire in the history of CA, which altered everyone here's life) the EAS was used by the NWS, FD, and PD to provide information on evacuation across all channels on the cable systems (not sure about the radio, they might have been covering that themselves).

    The California Office of Emergency Services has a Emerg. Digital Info Service that uses some of the same technology and protocols as well (includes the much-reknowned AMBER alerts).

    Don't think that this is some relic, this is used and tested on at least a weekly basis nationwide (SD Info).

    That being said, efforts to modernize and update things are great. I'd like to see some sort of emergency protocol for data packets, similar to the emergency phone service that allows infrastructure workers' phone calls to have priority in the midst of an emergency. There should be a EAS sitatuion website that is update out-of-bounds and is replicated (through some fancy AS routing) to servers all across the country, so it's always accessible. Think of a FEMA-run Akamai.

    The company I work for was even considering some way to allow people to have EDIS/EAS alerts pop up (via Messenger service or some other client) whenever they were released for the area they're in (won't work because of all the RFC1918 space they use :\).

    Emergency Alert Systems, and Civil Defense systems in general ARE still around, and ARE working within their original intent, but more public attention needs to be brought to them, so that all know about them. It's not so much security, but having more eyes on them will undoubtedly help suggest further improvements.

    And I agree with the earlier poster... ANYONE who hacks a system like this deserves the 20 years of time they'll get. That's just dumb. It's on a par with DOSing a 911 call center. Don't do it. You WILL cause loss of life and NO ONE will have any sympathy when you go to prison for a very, very long time. In fact, I'd love to help catch you.

  25. Tell us something new? by t_allardyce · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nice to know terrorism is really being taken care of seriously, so between this, voting and letting anything onto a plane that the tabaco companies deem ok, what else isnt working? the next terrorism incident will strike terror into everyone not because of fire and death but because they will suddenly realise their worst fear - that the people incharge are all idiots!

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  26. Perhaps this is all a set up by cpu_fusion · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Not that I'd be surprised about the emergency broadcast system having security problems, but consider one way the government could make this work to their advantage.

    They could have already set up monitors that could very quickly traingulate the source of an interference, while in parallel secretly laying down a secure system. Then by encouraging press coverage of the security holes, they would raise the possibility of a terrorist trying to use said security holes, and in doing so, give up their location.

    /shrug

    Puting on my meta-tin-foil-hat.

  27. It was broken from the gitgo by Almost-Retired · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a broadcast engineer, this system was IMO, broken from the gitgo.

    However, let me also point out that the huge majority of the system, if it all worked, which is rare, is secure in that the average stations gear can only accept input from the designated primary station in the area, and the NWS services which are also a part of the "network".

    The rest of the secondary sites in a given area are proscribed from the generation of any spurious information by the FCC, with the penalties being both uncontestable, and damned expensive for the offender who originated the false message.

    The rest of the problem is its dependability. The local system here has to jump the NRAO Quiet Zone, and is I believe now a satellite link, itself a huge problem in the event of an emp from an atomic device on the same side of the planet, or solar flares also can potentially render the link useless.

    Once you get the alert up here from star city, then you have the problem of poorly designed gear foisted off on us broadcasters by the relatively short timetable mandated by the last methodology change about 15 years ago. That gear is now failing, and the maker, who was probably incorporated just to peddle the things, has since found it impossible to survive on the expendables the system requires, like its printers unique thermal paper etc. No schematics were furnished without a lot of yelling and screaming on our part, and sending it back for expert service? Fugetaboudit. Expert service does not exist in many cases.

    And then the commission wants to fine us 27,000 per malfunction to boot. Most of the failures are beyond our control as the testing frequency is not sufficient to locate a malfunction before its a real malfunction.

    Yes, its broken, hopelessly so. It needs to be replaced with something that actually works AND is secure from outside attacks.

    And it needs to be stated up front that anyone with an idea of sueing the users for using an unknown submarine patent they ran to the patent office and got a patent on after the system was developed, will do jail time until such time as the system is declared unusable as this one s/b now. We went thru that already with this system, some jerk, smelling an easy dollar, ran and got a patent on it from our slumbering USTPO and sent all of us letters demanding $1500 a year for a license to use the system that was developed and mandated by the government. I think all of us were in close harmony during the chorus that told the commission and the equipment makers to pay it, we weren't about to pay annually for something that was mandated by them once we had purchased the original gear and installed it.

    They faded away into the slime from whence they came eventually, and the patent was eventually set aside, or so we are being told.

    Yah, we need a new system, one considerably more well thought out than this one ever was.

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    Cheers, Gene

  28. Secure? by Cow007 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Let us remember there is no such thing as "secure" there is only more secure. Don't rate this "100% funny" its not funny at all.

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  29. Re:Simple solution by Alioth · · Score: 2, Informative

    The whole point of public key cryptography is you DON'T need to have a shared secret. It doesn't matter who gets hold of the public key so long as everyone keeps their private keys secure. Broadcasting public keys is fine.

  30. The airwaves are secure.... by LostCluster · · Score: 2, Interesting

    EAS is trigged by unencrypted slow-modem-like broadcasts over the broadcast airwaves. That is, station A has a machine that listens to station B, and when station B broadcasts an alert that needs to be heard on station A, a magic box interrupts programming to broadcast the alert.

    Sure, there's no tech security in the EAS system itself, but there is plenty of physical security at any TV or radio station under the jurisdiction of the FCC. To put it bluntly, if their broadcast signal is overtaken by a hacker by any means, that station is at risk of having its ability to do business taking away from them forever by losing their license.

    To create a false EAS message, an attacker would need to know what stations monitors what other stations in the EAS network, and also be able to overtake on of those statioons to get their own broadcast on the air. This just plain isn't likely... not to mention whatever public panic might be created would be mitigated by the real EAS system quickly publishing a "Ignore last message, we've lost control of our system!" message.

  31. Re:Simple solution by Alioth · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why?

    All you need is a central signing authority a la SSL websites. Everyone has a copy of the CA's key hardcoded into their emergency receiver equipment. You just have to make bloody sure the CA is never compromised (and there are ways to do that - the current SSL CAs seem to be remaining secure).

    The bit that you distribute - the CA root cert in your box - can be sent out publically. It doesn't need a secure distribution channel.

    This would be an entirely appropriate level of security for an emergency broadcast system.