Need A New Retina? Look No Further
wap writes "Restoring sight to the blind is a Bibical miracle, a sign of divine powers. Now it is being tested at the Boston Retinal Implant Project, with some very limited success, according to Technology Review. They only have fifteen electrodes implanted, but it's a start. Great quotes: 'The eye doesn't like stuff inside it, that's why it doesn't have a zipper.' Will artificial eyes and retinal replacements someday be as good as good human eyes?"
Heh, they will be 100 times better.
Extended spectrum, nightvision, antiblinder, zoom, the possiblities are unlimited!
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I'd love to keep one eye, probably my 'good' eye, after testing to see which is the best, and modify the other to give retinal overlay data. You could look at an object and it would draw an overlay and data on it. Also, the ability to turn this overlay on or off! How about zoom, or freeze frame capabilites all without having your eyes look any different than they would naturally. :)
I know it's a long way off, but that kind of visual enhancement would be awesome. And expensive. And I want it.
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Ah Chew, if you could only see what I've seen with your eyes
Some info about the various types of bionic eyes currently being built can be found on Wired.
Brain implant anyone?
Read Pynchon.
15 electrodes implanted in someone's boday and not a sign of Kevin Warwick. Perhaps we'll get some actual research with scientific basis for a change.
But I simply cannot imagine having any of this kind of enhancement: ever. I might consider it if say it was to restore something I'd lost completely (like my sight) but as an enhancement? No I don't think so. But then perhaps I'm a luddite: I haven't seriously considered laser eye surgery, partly because it's risky (however small) but mostly because my current eyeballs + glasses work just fine.
And as a humorous aside: how long do you think it would be before scumware companies worked out how to spam you new implants? "I ploughed into that part of school children because I was distracted by the advert for cheap viagra my retinaly implants I had just received".
Bad analogies are like waxing a monkey with a rainbow.
"I can't see a thing without my glasses!"
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Will artificial eyes and retinal replacements someday be as good as good human eyes?
Reminds me of the scene where Tom Cruise went to get his eyes replaced in the Minority Report. Nevertheless, the question that "will be as good as someday?" is somewhat pointless, because we all know that as technology advances, will ALWAYS be as good as in the future. Unless we blow ourselves up, I am certain that we will have eye implants that gives humans super-vision, as well as being able to see-through walls, amongst other goodies. The better quesion is, how long will it take for technology to get there.
999X DIGITAL ZOOM! Actually creates data out of nothing WHILE YOU ARE ZOOMING! Who needs those fancy optics and lenses and whotnot?! DIGITAL is part of the WORLD OF TOMORROW!
Seriously, though, without an extra lens how could it be anything but 'digital zoom' (i.e. 'magnification')?
On the other hand, most people nowadays appear to be dumb enough to buy anything so long as it is digital or contains the prefix i- or e-, so maybe we can just market these as "eYes : now with DIGITAL zoom."
Read Pynchon.
Really, I don't. =)
Being able to look at ugly chicks as if they were beautiful would be a gift beyond price.
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could be cured for the cost of 1 Nuclear submarine, but as we are not serious about curing blindness we would rather have multiple subs and lots of blind people
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The problem with having a camera for an eye is that if they got good, they most certainly would cause enromous legal issues. You could conceivably record your own sight, which would run afoul of various copyright, privacy, and wire-tap laws in the US and abroad. More so if you broadcast them, or if security/access control was in place.
Lister: Any problems? ... closer, hmm, to the object. All right, okay. Well, what about other optical effects, like split screen, slow motion, Quantel(tm)?
Kryten: Well, just one or two. In fact I've compiled a little list if you'll indulge me. Now then, uh, my optical system doesn't appear to have a zoom function.
Lister: No, human eyes don't have a zoom.
Kryten: Well then, how do you bring a small object into sharp focus?
Lister: Well, you just move your head closer to the object.
Kryten: I see. Move your head
Lister: No. We don't have them.
Kryten: You don't have them -- just the zoom? Hmm. Well, no, that's fine, that's great, no, no, that's really great, that's great.
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This is very good news! My brother had been hurt in an accident has a child and has limited vision in one eye. The retina of his eye was damaged and several thousand dollars and hundreds of trips to clinics and hospitals later, we have been where we started!
This is early days yet, I know, but it offers some hope.
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It's called respect, and you don't need any glasses for that.
This is great news for me, I recently had an eye scan which showed the first signs of retinal damage after years of being diabetic... They reckon I have about ten years lefy so these guys need to get it up to at least JPEG resolution by then so I can still jack into my laptop and get my pr0n.. ;)
Just some clarification.
These devices won't restore eyesight to people who were born blind. Only those who, at one time in their life, actually could see will profit from such technical replacements.
When you are born you are nearly blind. It takes four to six years for the visual cortex to develop fully. After the age of six this development stops and thats the end of it.
If you are born blind then the cortex will not be trained and no magic eye surgery will restore your vision, because after the age of six the visual cortex will no longer adapt to the new situation.
Even if your eyes are restored to 20/20 vision you will not see a thing because your vision center doesn't know how to interpret the pictures. So these kinds of surgery will only help people which went blind and not those who were born blind. (Still cool stuff)
BTW. It is the same with deafness.
I'm sure I remember hearing about a similar experiment about 10 years ago. They'd connected a 5x5 array of electrodes to a patient's optical nerves, and he could see vaguely defined objects. So this is exactly how much progress...?
Of course I won't... I need a new retina!!
6 months ago I had cataract sugery and an interocular implant. The implant is fantastic, it took me from functionaly blind, in that eye, to pretty usable vision in the eye.
There is absolutely no equal to the organic material of the eye, though. As good as the implant is, it's still like looking at a bad reprint of a picture.
When it comes to the human body, third party products are decent if you can't get the real thing. But, they really aren't (and probably won't be) better.
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that it will help people that are born blind in the future... as they could then use this new technology to train their visual cortex. As for people already born blind, I'm not sure that this will never allow them to see, just that they will probably not be able to get the same level of results as someone that once had sight.
I hope they someday find a cure for that sort of hopeless optimism.
Look at the record of history: the more we know about disease, the more diseases we discover. The more illnesses we cure, the more develop. Even things that we thought were just part of the aging process are now classified as disease.
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People have tinkered like this for a long time. My favorite, going back to 1997, is where they combined silicon and eye of newt. No kidding! http://www.devicelink.com/mddi/archive/99/07/003.h tml
The world is made by those who show up for the job.
I mean what happens if your on the road and forget your charger? You wake up in the morning and all you see is a little battery low indicator. Since you got your eyes last year, non of the stores carry a charger for your obsolete eyes.
Apparently it's possible to replace a damaged cornea with one of your own teeth - I remember seeing a TV show about a guy who did it - I can't find that story but here's another example.
Common sense isn't. Circumcision is not only unecessary, but risky and detrimental to one's health.
The only reason to circumcise is religous - there is no medical reason, and there are good medical reasons not to.
There is no extra care required to be uncircumcised - basically, leave it alone, wash the outside (as you would circumcised).
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It will likely not be as good as normal vision for a *very* long time, if ever; it is meant to return some mobility and possibly face and detail recognition to people who have gone blind by retinal degeneration.
Furthermore, this is not a "cure" for these diseases. The rods and cones still die, but are "replaced" by an external camera and some implanted circuits and electrodes to stimulate the retinal nerves which form the optic nerve.
In response to those asking whether this is new: it's not. Most of the groups working on artificial vision (retinal implants, cortical implants, optic nerve implants) have been at it for well over a decade. What is new is the development by some of these groups of actual implantable devices, as shown in the Technology Review article. Previous experiments typically involved electrodes inserted into the eye of a blind volunteer for a short time, with all of the electronics remaining outside.
This Eurekalert article discusses a new technique using chemical messengers to lead nerve growth toward a specific site. While originally intended for spinal regrowth after severe trauma, it (and the many other research projects online the same line) would appear relevant to this artificial vision project. They're trying to save the optical nerve so they can stimulate from the eye to the brain. If they could regrow nerve tissue care in surgical placement of the implant during eye surgery might be of less concern.
Also, PBS has a series Innovation - Life, inspired where one of the episodes discusses another artificial vision procedure consisting of a direct ocular brain implant currently in human trials. The program follows a patient who has the surgical procedure done and then her recuperation and initial testing of the implant. Most interesting. They also show another group who is trying a different kind of brain implant, but who haven't yet made it to human trials.
Between nerve / brain cell regrowth and implant research ongoing we will likely see amazing cures for formerly untreatable injuries and illnesses within our lifetimes. It's pretty amazing to see the beginnings of Bionic Man type stuff actually happen in my lifetime. --M
Who was it that said "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"?
Arthur C. Clarke (Famous author of: 2001, Childhoods End, Songs of Distant Earth, and many others)
The quote you're discribing the third of Clarkes Three Laws[1] first published in an essay titled "Hazards of Prophecy: The Failure of Imagination", in Profiles of the Future
There is also a corollary to the third law that states any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced (Gregory Benford [2] first proposed this in Foundation's Fear[3])
Hope that Helps.
References:
[1] Clarke's Three Laws, Wikipedia.org
[2] Gregory Benford, Wikipedia.org
[3] Foundation's Fear, Wikipedia.org
Required reading for internet skeptics
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