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A Look at the CounterStrike Source Beta

mutewinter writes "CounterFrag.com has posted an article reviewing the recent CounterStrike Source beta. What is unusual about Source is that it keeps the same gameplay, including guns and maps, of the original CounterStrike and simply brings CounterStrike (which uses the original Half Life engine) up to date graphically. Imagine if Doom 3 had been just like the original Doom, but with a better engine. Many gamers look down on recycled content, but is this a problem for a 5 year old game that is still as popular as ever?" S!: We also had an alternative look at the Beta over on Slashdot Games a couple of days back.

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  1. CS is insanely popular. by mesmartyoudumb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I work for a very larger server company and Counter strike is still the most popular game, At least 95% of our servers are CS.

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    1. Re:CS is insanely popular. by lateralus_1024 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Computer Science on the other hand....

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    2. Re:CS is insanely popular. by MrNemesis · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wow, computer science as a game...

      "d00d! j00 gt 2 chk out dis C++ map!"
      "WTF?!OLOLLOLLO!"
      "LOL, my infnit l00pz pwn j00!"
      "STFU, my 20 GOTO 10 will pwn all you campfags!"
      "LOL, eat my PERL BFG"
      *O'Reilly was fragged by L@rryW@ll*
      "Larry, u wallhack shitcock!"
      "ROFL"
      "d00d, this PHP has major lag"
      "my cracked Zend compiler 0WNZ ur PHP, fagg1t!"
      *Sanity has left the computer science universe*

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  2. We can't make changes to our game... by atrizzah · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because if we do, we let the terrorists win

  3. Gameplay by asd-Strom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The fans din't want the game to be changed. The counter-strike fans will go nuts even if there is a small box moved in some map. So this new version will sell good, at least with the hardcore fans.

  4. this is a mistake by CAIMLAS · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a mistake on Valve's part.

    I played CS from beta 5 or so up through the 1.2 or so release. Then I got tired of it: the weapons were -too- balanced, and it lost a good deal of the fun and challenge. That, and things became rediculous, such as the accuracy of headshots and such. It just wasn't fun anymore.

    That, and the plethora of people that played it obsessively (not I) were irritating, as they were quite good and made getting killed repeatedly terribly boring/frustrating. Add into that the maps getting replayed an obscene number of times (dust, anyone?), with few people playing the newer (and IMO often better) maps, things got really, really dull.

    I'm sorry, but I wouldn't have paid money for Doom with updated graphics. I certainly won't pay for CS with updated graphics.

    I bought half-life. With it, I got a dedicated community full of modders, bringing forth DoD, CS, and the like of fun, playable expansions in addition to the single (and multi) gameplay of just Half-Life. What is it, exactly, that I'd get by paying for CS Source that isn't already available in terms of gameplay? Nothing. CS currently looks pretty damn decent, what with the 'modern' textures and such, and runs quite well. An engine change does nothing for gameplay.

    If I want pretty, I'll get a povray renderer.

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    1. Re:this is a mistake by schmoli · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm sorry, but I wouldn't have paid money for Doom with updated graphics. I certainly won't pay for CS with updated graphics.

      I bought half-life. With it, I got a dedicated community full of modders, bringing forth DoD, CS, and the like of fun, playable expansions in addition to the single (and multi) gameplay of just Half-Life. What is it, exactly, that I'd get by paying for CS Source that isn't already available in terms of gameplay? Nothing. CS currently looks pretty damn decent, what with the 'modern' textures and such, and runs quite well. An engine change does nothing for gameplay.


      Uh you're not paying for CS:Source. CS:Source will be a mod for HL2, which will be an entirely new single-player game. You're getting the exact thing you got with HL but newer. Deal with it, and pay for it if you want, but don't bitch about it being a waste as it's not.

      Now if I'm wrong and CS:Source is going to be a standalone game sold at full price, flame on but I do not believe that is the case.

    2. Re:this is a mistake by amalcon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I understand this completely. Counterstrike was a decent game while it was still in beta. You'd still occasionally get people who work in teams, people still occasionally played on non-de_ maps, and occasionally one of your teammates would ACTUALLY rescue a hostage!

      I would contend that the weapons did not get "too balanced," at least by 1.1, as everyone still used exclusively mp5/m4a1/ak47/awp and usp/deagle. It was always inherently unbalanced due to the weapon buying system, but this didn't get real bad until the community degraded further, and there was such a gap between the 24/7ers and the casual players that once a team got going, there was no chance of winning. The anti-newbie mentality fueled this further, because people would at first opportunity switch to the team "w/o all teh n00bs."

      This is why this game has succeeded. A strongly elitist community has formed, and people take entirely too much pride in being a part of this community. In some games, this sort of behavior is looked down upon, but in CS, it's encouraged.

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  5. Source by SnAzBaZ · · Score: 5, Funny

    Damn, did anyone else read that title think for a brief second that they were going to be treated to some counterstrike source code oogle at?

  6. Penny Arcade's Take On CS:Source by CHaN_316 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Funny comic from Penny Arcade today about CounterStrike, here's the link.

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  7. Re:Hmm... by Lisandro · · Score: 5, Interesting

    iD took too much flak for Doom 3, i think. "Booh, it looks nice but all i do it's killing monsters in dark corridors!". Well DOH, it's Doom, for Christ's sake!

    I love it. I love the atmosphere, the level design, the graphics, the sound (underrated, it's excellent), and the nods to other games, including Half-Life, System Shock 2 and of course Doom itself. It managed to freak me out in a couple of parts (one with a ghost women voice truly perturbed me), and it's also funny in parts; check those PDAs as you go along.

    Best single player FPS experience in years. I downloaded it, but as soon it's published here (South America), i'll be first in line to buy it. Can't wait for the Linux binary either.

  8. Re:Hitboxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Doom 3 actually has per-polygon hits, it's not at the point where it's per-pixel yet. Probably will be in the next generation engine after Doom 3 though.