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Lucas to Make Sequels to Star Wars After All?
SageMadHatter writes "After denying the possibility of three new Star Wars movies taking place after the original triology story line, it appears that the possibility has actually opened up."
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I wonder if George Lucas will revise history again and say that he *DID* originally plan to film 9 chapters from the beginning.
The story on this has changed a few times.
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...that *if* they get made, they don't degrade my fun memories of what Star Wars *should be* any further.... :-(
If you have a chance, look at the special features where Lucas tries to explain how basically every scene from Star Wars was copied from Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress.
Except for the laser guns, it's the same story in the same film. Even the music is similar.
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Grand Admiral Thrawn would be awesome to watch. The storly line of this trilogy was well thought out and written well. Of course the main participants of Luke and the gang came in and saved the day like they do in most of the post Episode 6 novels, they would have to get others to play their parts since they are all way too old. The guy who played Chewbacca has a clause in his contract that he must be in any sequels after RotJ, I believe I read that on starwars.com but could be mistaken.
Actually, George Lucas wrote and produced the Indiana Jones series, but Spielberg directed them.
Maybe Spielberg should be the one to direct the new Star Wars?
Actually, we have five data points.
ANH: great
ESB: excellent
ROTJ: good
TPM: bad
AOTC: awful
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The Indy movies are directed by master Spielberg. Lucas is an FX man and, arguably, a decent editor. As a director he's a hack, as a writer he's way too quick to "borrow" story elements from classic works and other sources.
I almost fell on my butt when I saw the giant elephants in Return Of The King. "You mean Lucas stole the AT-ATs from Tolkien??" I had always thought the idea of elephant-like walking tanks was brilliant, turns out he stole that too.
All those years I thought Star Wars was great art, turns out it's just pulp. Factor in budget and expectations, Clones literally tops the list as worst movie ever made.
Sam
The storyline is kinda left wide open. I mean if Anakin was supposed to bring balance to the force, wouldn't that imply the between Luke and Lea, one becomes Jedi and the other Sith?
....oh well, just musing.....
I'm wondering if not having all your original parts ultimately makes you more vulnerable to the dark side as well? - which would imply that Luke would ultimately turn to the dark side (presumably after training Lea).
Might explain why Dooku did not kill Anakin outright but instead severed his arm and could imply that Vader cut off Luke's hand by design as well.
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Here here! The Thrawn trilogy is so good even Lucas' touch as a producer (hmm I don't think any of the Star Wars Contiuum is good enough to withstand his directing) couldn't screw it up.
I think a lot of NJO is very made-for-the-movies and pretty good too.
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I disagree.
ANH: good
ESB: bad
ROTJ: excellent
TPM: awful
AOTC: good
And I am not a Star Wars geek. I'm a bit more subjective, in that Star Wars has never ruled my life.
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I didn't mind episodes 1 & 2 or the 2nd and 3rd matrix movies. You just have to be honest with yourself before you go in the theatre. Accept that the acting and plot may be horrible, and wait patiently for the special effects and fight scenes. It seems that half the purpose of the movie is to have something to talk about whether it be good or bad.
I think he will abandon the books mythos all together and not worry about conflicts.
I think this is a real shame because there were so many great characters in the books. I like that spidery-type guy who could spin brain cells.
Well, according to rumor, a while back (in the neighborhood of a year ago, maybe?) Spielberg actually requested of Lucas that he be allowed to make episodes 7, 8, and 9. *Supposedly* of course. Also, Lucas didn't say that the sequals wouldn't be made, he said he was tired, and he didn't have it in him to make more Star Wars movies. So, maybe this is news that he intends to turn the reigns over to someone else.
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I registered with a special email addy on your freeipod thingie, for fun, since it doesn't work for people in Canada anyways...
Less than 30minutes later..I received a spam on it...
Q: Will there be a book about Harry's Mum and Dad, about how they became friends and how they died?
A: So it would be "Harry Potter: Episode One". [Laughter]. No, but a lot of people have asked that. It is all George Lucas's fault. You won't need a prequel; by the time I am finished, you will know enough. I think it would be shamelessly exploitative to do that. I am sure that Mr Lucas is doing it only for artistic reasons, but in my case I think that by the time you have had the seven books you will know everything you need to know for the story.
"Artist reasons" -- LOL. I love JKR.
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I still remember him saying.
Forgetting for a moment that Lucas just doesn't have the ability to direct these movies anymore. I try to think what could be done with 7-9 and I keep coming back to my friend's quote.
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ANH: good
ESB: bad
ROTJ: excellent
TPM: awful
AOTC: good
And I am not a Star Wars geek.
I think you meant to say "I'm not a person with good taste in films" =P.
How can you prefer a movie like RotJ over ESB? Let's compare:
ESB:
- Has Boba Fett, the ultimate badass.
- Has a dark, mature storyline.
- Has excellent writing and acting.
RotJ:
- Turns Boba Fett into a dork in armour who gets killed by a blind man (although the SE "macking on the alien chicks" scene slightly redeems him).
- Ewoks. WTF? WT*F*?
The Battle of Endor and Luke/Vader duel were excellent, but overall it can't touch ESB or ANH.
So far the prequel trilogy has been incredibly disappointing. About all I can watch of TPM is the Maul/Jinn/Kenobi fight. AotC has a few decent scenes. The opening is excellent, parts of the chase through Coruscant are good (although I could do without the lame dialogue), and the battle at the end would be awesome if it weren't for the incredibly stupid C3PO jokes.
If the prequels had come out at the same time as the original trilogy I might be more forgiving, but there have been *so* many good films since then that combine that level of action with deep storyline and characters (e.g. Blade Runner, Heat, Aliens, Firefly).
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...because he has always taken the profit from the last to finance the next one. Episode III will be almost a break even at best. Figure a production cost of $150 million, and that is about what its domestic gross will be give or take $25 million.
He has trashed the franchise so badly be making drawn out, boring movies that even Jar-Jar wouldn't watch the next one.
Call me a troll, but I really liked 4-6, but I did not enjoy 1, and I detested 2. It is not because I am older either. My 7 year old would rather watch IV than any other one.
Perhaps the saddest thing of all is that Genndy Tartakovsky made the 25 minute long animated Clone Wars and it was better and more gripping in every way. Episode 19 was the best two minutes of Star Wars ever made. Lucus just doesn't have it anymore. Simple as that.
I think it would be really cool if he did the story with Thrawn or some stuff from the X-Wing Saga. The Thrawn saga was amazing because Timothy Zahn did a great job with the story.
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But I would also love to see the return of the emporer and luke turning to the dark side. I loved the comic. But I don't think you could make 3 movies out of it
You can judge for yourselves.
They DO look amazingly similar to AT-ATs.
You know the movie biz - if there's a buck to be made, they'll find a way to make it - making a remake of a bad movie is a tried and true formula for it. And I ask you - how many remakes turn out as good or better than the original?
English -- gotta love it! / The engineers refuse to refuse the rocket until the refuse is removed from the launch pad.
Well, just because the Empire fell doesn't mean things were all happy and cheery in the New Republic. The Empire fell, true, but it was not out. The Remnant Forces (as they came to be known) became quite prevalent and the Sith did begin to return, as did the Jedi. Thus, I see a sequel as a likely possibility.
However, on the other hand, I don't see Lucas directing as the best of ideas. I WOULd like to see Lucas make the OUTLINE for the series. I'd like to see him shape the overall plot. But for the tiny details, for the dialogue, and for other such things... I'd much see... well, a lot of other people doing that.
And may the Force be with us. Please.
Yes and no. On a personal level, if one is truly objective about it, the new movies aren't much worse (or are nearly as good as) the original trilogy. Except that Star Wars (Episode IV, A New Hope, whatever) completely rearranged my four-year-old mind in a way that no movie since has matched. Of course, the prequels could never have reproduced that magic for me. And in the interim, I grew up and began to expect intelligent dialogue, good acting, and sensible stories. The prequels can't cut it on my current standards. But if I let myself regress, I like the prequels for what they are: good, clean fun.
But some things about the prequels are inexcusable: the racial stereotyping, the misuse of fine actors (hey, Alec Guiness was better as Obi Wan than Liam Neason was as Qui Gon, but Neason is as fine an actor as Guiness was), and the midichlorians thing.
And on a larger, cultural level, the prequels fall far short of the original trilogy. Star Wars imitated World War II movies (bad guys with english accents and vaguely nazi-like uniforms, an evil empire intent on tyranny and murder of innocents, stormtroopers, dogfights, impossible odds against the heroes) and thus more easily captured the imaginations of adults at the time as well as children. The whole original trilogy mirrored our cultural experience not only fresh in history but rife with parallels to the Cold War and the Evil Empire. Star Wars also came at a time when, as a nation, we needed to heal ourselves from the divisiveness of the late 60s and early 70s, and one way to heal was by recalling past glories. The prequels aren't rooted in anything, except Flash Gordon serials. Those serials were the direct precursor to TV, and TV culture is focused on immediate, short term consumer exploitation. Those serials don't reflect anything more than materialism. And that's all the prequels reflect as a result.
So, yeah, on a superficial level, the prequels are no better or worse than the original trilogy, but on a deeper level, the prequels lack a significant connection to our cultural history, which was something that the original trilogy did have. In that sense, the prequels are much worse than the original trilogy.
I would love to see some of the books turned into movies. I've only listened to a few of them on audio CD, but I think they are better. It just took Lucas to lay the general universe down.
I would love to see the rise of the republic back to glory but now they have to fight a new threat - rogue terrorists who benefitted from the Empire's 30 year dominance.
More bounty hunter action.
I would also like to see more technical history added in. Like; how to construct a lightsaber, what crystal is used to power it, is it a telescoping antenna?
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The notion of 9 films (3 trilogies) has been around since before The Empire Strikes Back was released. At one point, an article in Analog stated that there were plans for 12 films, but I've never seen this claim repeated.
At the very first screening I went to, the 'Episode 4' title was missing. This was added as soon as it was obvious Lucas had a hit on his hands.
that would be an AWESOME idea!
Unfortunately, it doesn't look like it's going to happen.
Spielberg already asked if he could and George said no!
(quote)
Steven Spielberg wants to direct Episode III
"I've asked him. He won't let me do one." These are the sad words of Steven Spielberg regarding his requests to direct Star Wars being turned down. For years, the director has begged George Lucas for a shot.
"I wanted to do one 15 years ago, and he didn't want me to do it. I understand why - Star Wars is George's baby." He mentioned he's still very interested in helming a story that takes place in a galaxy, far, far away.
(/quote)
Actually, I've read a comic of Star Wars that shows a few things:
1. The Emperor is not dead. He can come back after death by entering a new host body (He admits it's painful and unleasant, but such is the cost of supposed "immortality."
2. Luke DOES fall to the Dark Side, but it is quite brief and is pulled back by his JEDI sister. (Yes, Leia becomes a Jedi... as do her kids, I believe)
AAAAAAAAARGH! I had literally forgotten all about it! I vividly remember each and every time I saw Ep IV, V, and VI in the theater, but it took several minutes of perusing this site before the horror came flooding back. I remember being utterly appalled when I watched it, and I was only nine. Thank you SO much for bringing back this horrible repressed memory.
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I am very much a believer in non-participation as a form of protest. I won't watch the olympics, I won't see star wars.
But enter: friends and family. I didn't want to see Catwoman, but the g/f did, so I did. I knew I ROBOT was going to blow chunks, but my father wanted to see it, and how many times do you have a chance to go see a movie with your dad when you're in your late 20s?
Come to think of it, I haven't gone to a movie *I* wanted to see since Lost in Translation (which the ENTIRE theater walked out of except for me).
And even if you don't have people who will drag you to movies, or you are lucky enough to have entirely film-snob friends, do you subscribe to HBO? They'll show the SW movies sooner or later, isn't that *LIKE* paying to see starwars?
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Millenium Man was a disaster, a stupid and annoying movie, IMO. I did not like A.I. either. Now Blade Runner was cool, especially the robot played by Rutger Hauer. However, I am not really interested in human-looking robots per se. I am more interested in their philosophy and motivation. In I, Robot, for example, we saw a little bit of the machines's (Viki) mind and rationale. Same thing in Blade Runner.
It would be cool to have a robot who did not know he was one, go on a hate-filled rampage against other robots, only to find out later that he/she is a robot as well. Can a machine have remorse? Would it self-destruct like Star Trek's Nomad?
Are you saying that Attack of the Clones was worse than Phantom Menace? I find that hard to believe. I haven't seen AOTC, & I can't imagine it getting any worse.
Seriously, I want to know what you mean, so that I could avoid watching.
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Are you saying that Attack of the Clones was worse than Phantom Menace? I find that hard to believe. I haven't seen AOTC, & I can't imagine it getting any worse.
Yes, absolutely it's worse. Much worse. On the plus side, it doesn't have Jar-Jar on screen for very long, and it has a few impressive battle scenes (like when the clones battle the droids). But the worst part of the movie is the absolutely horrible dialog and acting, especially by Hayden (Anakin). The "romantic" dialog between him and Amadala were literally painful to watch. If you really hated TPM that you couldn't bear to watch it again even if it was on free TV, then avoid AoTC at all costs.
I'll agree that the Matrix sequels were rather disappointing, but not nearly to the extent that the Star Wars prequels were. I went ahead and saw Matrix: Revolutions, although I wish now that I had waited for the dollar theater, but I have no intention of bothering to see SW3 at all.
Man, you people bitch way too much. With the exception of Jar Jar, I thought SW1 was pretty good. The pod racers were just cool. Not like anyone here is going to write a better script to explain the beginnings of Darth Vader anyway...
SW2 was all about special effects. The idea of an army of clones is interesting. Explains why all stormtroopers wear masks (so you don't have to see the same face everyplace).
Rarely have I seen a sci-fi movie as utterly awful as Attack of the Clones.
You have apparently never seen any Trek movie then...
The thing that scares me though, if Lucas did end up doing that, I can just see him writing a hokey script along the lines of Star trek 8 (first contact)
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Amen to that one.
Honestly, I've been very happy with the progress Lucas has made on the recent star wars movies. It's one of those epic universes that can only get bigger.
Not to mention more profitable.
I've never been much good at being a purist, so I try not to do it.
Star Wars has become such a large part of our culture over the last few decades that I don't think anything with the Star Wars name on it would flop.
The Star Wars movies really push the envelope technically. They always have. I would watch them just to see where the technology's going.
But I'm rather odd.
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I hate to break it to you, but even people over 15 sometimes watch movies for the spectacle. Not every movie has to be profound or have oscar level acting. The Star Wars prequels provided plenty of spectacle. You don't have to sit there and analyze why a race that's built a sophisticated underwater city is launching plasma projectiles using catapults mounted on beasts of burden. I'm not trying to be cynical here, I mean it. Just watch the fucking movie, and enjoy the pretty explosions. If you somehow find yourself feeling less intelligent by enjoying a simple movie, well that probably means you're not very intelligent. So don't worry about it.