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Dodgeball: Text Your Location To Friends
iseff writes "I was listening to NPR yesterday in the car and they ran a piece about this new service called Dodgeball. It's essentially a social networking site, except it's based pretty extensively on text messaging. When you go out for the night, you txt the main dodgeball server your location. It then txt's your friends where you are so they can meet you. It can also tell you who is close-by where you are and how you are connected to those people. It seems like a more 'sticky' and applicable use for social networking when compared to Friendster or orkut (which are always very popular when they launch and then quickly fade). Could this maybe be a decent use to social networking that will last? Or will this bust just as fast?"
If i'm waiting for friends and i have a mobile, why wouldn't I just ring or sms them anyway?
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Is it that hard to call a few people on the phone, or heaven forbid talk to someone at work or school to make plans? I don't understand this recent fascination with multi-tasking on your phone. I must be out of touch with the hip crowd, because I only use my phone to talk to people. No games, no sms messages, no camera.
Sometimes I even turn my phone off when I am out somewhere. It's no fun to always feel like you're pinned down by technology. These days no one gets to unplug and have time to themselves because no matter where you are there are 5 ways to get ahold of you.
Just my 2 cents.
This assumes all the people you associate with share the same network (ie click) without any overlap from other networks. But I suppose as you introduce and get introduced to more people you start to expand.
Again...maybe you don't want others (even if they're your friends) joining in on your party for the night.
Watch enough Seinfeld and you'll notice the buddies of Jerry, George, Kramer, and Elaine often clash. Obviously something like this wouldn't go too well in this case.
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What's the name of the service that lets people check out profiles of people near them via their cell phone and IM them to meet them somewhere? I heard about that on TV I think. This good-looking woman looked at profiles of singles in her immediate area, found one she wanted to meet, and IMed him to meet her at some street-side cafe or something like that. Is that an actual service now or just something some marketing guy thinks will happen someday? It could be cool. Then again you could be IMing the next David Berkowitz to meet you.
This is why Silicon Valley VCs keep fucking up left, right and center. They can't seem to figure out that a business has to make money, regardless of the technology in question.
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I saw these guys presentation at Oreilly's etech conference in Feb... and it does a whole host of geolocation type services.
IT's really quite slick the little sms/email query system they came up with.
It has access to geocoded data, so if you tell the service about your location, besides telling your friends where you are, it can tell you that their's 50 cent drafts down the block... or you can ask it where the closest bar with a pac man or pooltable...
Obviously, this makes the most sense and is the most useful, in a dense urban area filled with younger/hipper crowd with a mobile phone less than 3 years old =P
There are a lot of cool geolocation based social implications... cool spontaneous flash mob type stuff.
In short, I wish I thought of it =( bastages!
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I can see this becoming annoying quite quickly. If you had just one friend who used this, but you actually had a life (that wasn't completely dependent on them), you'd constantly get pathetic messages on your phone, despite the fact that you don't want to hang out with them every night of the week. It would only take one overly extroverted person to annoy dozens of normal people.
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If they added GPS to the mix and an autotrack function (with "do not disturb/do not track" toggle, of course) then people could use the service without having to stop all the time and text the server. The minute you move more than 50 feet from your "official" location, the GPS would recompute and resend a new update. As long as you are in motion, it sends a "Not stationary" message. Once you arrive, it notices the stabilization in position and sends the new locale (maybe reverse lookup to provide a street addy or the name of the club).
Just don't tell your employer that you have this.
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What if I don't want people knowing where I am at all times? Unless this is something you can turn off, I don't see people climbing on board too readily. Think about all those people that are unfaithful within their social circle. It would be kind of strange to know your significant other is always within a couple miles of someone else in your social circle. If nothing is going on, I bet you still find people that get jealous off of this "evidence." Too much technology is a bad thing sometimes. I know. I just read it. I can't believe I said it either.
for now at least. See their FAQ: http://www.dodgeball.com/social/help_basics.php
Is that the people participating actually leave their houses on the weekends...
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for stalkers.
I don't understand this recent fascination with multi-tasking on your phone. I must be out of touch with the hip crowd, because I only use my phone to talk to people. No games, no sms messages, no camera.
Adolescent primates try out new things and see how they work. (Typically one of the things they try is breaking one major taboo.)
Sometimes it works out very well. Then they are wildly successful and teach the rest of the primates (starting with their family and cronies) about a new food source, technique, etc.
Sometimes it's a disaster. Then they die.
Most of the time it's just interesting to them and maybe fun for a while, then it gets old and gets dropped.
Adolescence is the right time for this sort of behavior. Adolescents are mature enough that they're not likely to fail just through lack of strength, knowldege or skill. But less of the rest of the tribe's resources are sunk by their loss, and their loss is less damaging to the tribe's future, than if they pull this and lose later in life, say once they have young to raise and others who have become dependent on them. Thus do post-adolescents become more conservative, and less experimental and risk-taking, once they have accepted major long-term responsibilities.
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Hah, usefulness of social networking sites. I always wondered what the point of Orkut was.
In any case, take a look at Simpy (demo or tour) for an example of a useful social (networking tool) that is centered around bookmarks (i.e. something that is actually useful).
Simpy
Use of this service leaves a record at the server of your location, movements, and who you are associating with.
Maybe the fun is worth it. Maybe not. But if you subscribe, you might want to be careful about who your friends are. If they screw up with the law, the law might just decide you're a gang member, vandal, or terrorist. B-(
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This sort of thing seems more like the killer app for augmented reality (computer-assisted vision) than for cell phones and SMS messages.
Caveat emptor: Augmented reality does not yet exist in a workable fashion (but it's getting there.)
Combine one of these: http://eyetap.org/
with a geolocation service, and you could do things like, looking at a building and gathering information about its ammenities, contact information (a phone number, a Zagatsurvey rating, etc) and also a list of who, on your contact list, may be inside/in the proximity.
a kind of personal tracking sort of thing.
I think this service would be more useful for avoiding encounters with people whose company you abhor.
Hence the name "dodgeball."
a service provider in Germany has been doing something like this for years. If you subscribe to their service you basically get a username and pass which you can use to access a map on their website displaying your phone's current position. So if your friends know the pass they are able to spot you. IIRC they rely on 3 cells in your phone's range (cell-id I guess) to locate you, so the results can be quite inaccurate.
However it never became popular for obvious reasons. I guess nobody likes to reveal his/her whereabouts 24/7.
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In Bruce Sterling's short story "Maneki Neko", everyone has a pda/cellphone thing with pervasive wireless networking and GPS. The folks in the story are part of a P2P network whose symbol is 'Maneki Neko', and whose function is to automates a gift economy.
Say you're in the coffee shop, buying a cup. The PDA buzzes, says 'buy two'. So you do. You walk out with two, it buzzes again: 'give it to the hung-over chap on the bench'. He's psyched, even though he didn't order it, it's what he needed. Since the network has some idea of what you have purchased, what you need, where you are, what you've been doing, and what you have extra of, it efficiently moves goods (and without spoiling the story, personal services) around without there being anyone in charge. And since we have databases, fourteen people don't show up with coffees for the poor lush.
In the story, the main character is having a baby. Unsolicited baby clothes (for the correct sex) show up in the mail, along with toys, etc, sent by total strangers, because their PDA told them to. Presumably they had extra, or their child had outgrown it, or whatever. And since the network often benefits them, they have an incentive to comply with its requests, when they can.
Now other than the rampant privacy problems involved in a world that has such devices and services working seamlessly on a global scale, doesn't it sound cool? And since we're going to end up with a world that has such devices and services working (we hope) seamlessly on a global scale, should we not make such a thing?
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Given that the name of the service is called Dodgeball, I presume that the target audience is the fat slow-moving kids with the glasses. You know, the uncoordinated, clumsy ones who are socially inept and... post on... Slashdot...
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Recently on NYCWireless (http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireles s/2004-August/008643.html) I posted about an idea that would make this even easier: area wifi tells people where you are. In effect, your PDA keeps searching for a network to broadcast its position. When it finds one, it checks a node db to see if its a community or public node (like nodedb.com) Poof. Automatic cross-reference of person with location.
In general, IM services should get most centralized. Not like Passport (proprietary, but some universal web service (gaim) that websites could lock into to indicate whether and person is online and ifso, where.
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1) Open my celular phone
2) Select the button to create an email
3) Select a group from the phone list , or select all the people i want to send an email
4) Compose the email, say anything , typing in japanese on the phones is easy because of sentence completition. English is just a pain in the ass.(I am a native spanish speaker)
5) Attach my GPS Location ( in this phones you can attach files, photos, GPS location, Movies etc.)
6) Send
The receivers , of the mail , can just watch the coordinates ( not very useful ) , watch a map of where I am , or trace a route to me (the las service has a small cost ).
I think this is the real trend
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What could be even more annoying than being spammed by a friend, is being spammed by someone you don't even like. Stuff that comes to mind, off the top of my head:
1. Most of these "social networks" are based on the fundamentally _false_ assumption that if A is a friend of B, and B is a friend of C, and C is a friend of D, then surely A and D will also get along just fabulously.
Which is complete idiocy. Humans are not that one-dimensional personalities. It can well be that A and D are completely opposite personalities and don't even have any common topics to discuss.
I mean just look around you. You surely remember at least a case of some girlfriend's friend who you thought was an airhead. Or some friend's sibbling/parent/classmate/neighbour/friend who you thought was jerk or a complete idiot.
And that's already just two degrees of separation. Go any further and it becomes 100% lottery. The chances to have anything in common are the same as if you picked a random stranger off the street. Because essentially they _are_ a random stranger.
So basically why the heck do I need to be notified that a bunch of strangers are in Jack's pub? I could just go into Jack's anyway and be assured to find a bunch of strangers in there anyway.
2. Friendship is a two-sided thing. When you're free (or even _expected_) to just add people to your friends list without their confirmation, it's getting even more meaningless.
It just means you can get spammed by some people you don't even like. That annoying ex, the local tag-along loser, some relative who actually gets on your nerves, whatever. Now go along that line through several degrees of separation. It's pretty much guaranteed to be more stuff you'd rather avoid than a case of "omg! I must go quickly to the pub so I don't miss him/her!"
3. At the risk of being offensive, I can see the potential for such a service to get choked full of losers.
There's a lot more potential in it for people who just need to pretend they have a lot of friends. No, seriously, anyone who can put equals between a "friend" and being connected through 6 degrees of separation to a perfect stranger, most likely doesn't have any real friends to start with.
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theres been a similar service up and running in the UK for a few months already (albeit underground...whatever that means) www.playtxt.net where u can flirt with people nearby when your out on the town (friends or others) via txt message or even MMS. just checked out the Buzz Junction thing- playtxt looks a lot more advanced than that. dont think playtxt is the states yet but i read somehwere they were going over the pond soon.
or here
I recently bought an LG VX6000 from Verizon, and after digging around for a while, learned how to get my GPS coordinates by messing around with settings, then dialing a special 922 number (careful, sometimes in some areas, it forwards to 911). Not exactly a practical way to gather it, but it works.
Anyway, those sites have just about everything you'd ever want to know about any cell phone from any company. The free WAP service that you can get on most Verizon phones is pretty sweet.