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Free Software Day Around The World

depechemodem writes "In a follow-up to Microsoft Leaves U.N. Standards Group, it appears that it may have been in reaction to the UN's sponsorship of the 1st annual Software Freedom Day in which its International Open Source Network (IOSN) will educate Asian users on the benefits of Free and Open source Software (FOSS). FOSS promotes several high-profile applications including OpenOffice, Mozilla, MySQL, and Apache." An anonymous reader says of the U.N. effort, "Events will be organised in Bangladesh, Brunei, India, Malaysia, New Zealand, Philippines, Sri Lanka and Vietnam on Saturday, August 28th." According to another anonymous reader, "Go Open Source, funded by the Shuttleworth Foundation and HP, expects up to 10,000 visitors at the various Linux install-fests around South Africa this Saturday, says the Mail & Guardian."

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  1. Everybody sing along now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Join us now and share the software;
    You'll be free, hackers, you'll be free.
    x2

    Hoarders may get piles of money,
    That is true, hackers, that is true.
    But they cannot help their neighbors;
    That's not good, hackers, that's not good.

    When we have enough free software
    At our call, hackers, at our call,
    We'll throw out those dirty licenses
    Ever more, hackers, ever more.

    Join us now and share the software;
    You'll be free, hackers, you'll be free.
    x2

    1. Re:Everybody sing along now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nice lyrics, but thank god RMS chose to become a coder instead of a singer!

    2. Re:Everybody sing along now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
      Maybe it is because he wrote the GPL and kinda got the whole thing started.

      Or maybe it's just because he's so damn sexy.

  2. Tradition by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I instinctively cringe whenever I see something like this:

    1st annual software Freedom Day

    It might end up being a total flop, and not be bothered with again.
    (I do of course hope its a success)

    Next year I would be willing to consider it the 2nd Annual software freedom day, but lets get past the first one ummmmm first.

    Its just one example of illogical phrases.

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    1. Re:Tradition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
      This raises an interesting thought. What about the 0th day? Hmmmm ....

      I hereby declare today to be the 0th annual Naked At Work Day!

      or ...

      I hereby declare today to be the 0th annual Geeks Get All The Chicks Day!

      or ...

      I hereby declare today to be the 0th annual World Peace And Perfect Harmony Day!

      Wow, this is fun!

    2. Re:Tradition by Nermal6693 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The 'proper' word for 'first annual' is 'inaugural.' I don't know whether it guarantees a second one like 'first annual' does though.

  3. Free World by BoldAC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sorry... early morning thought.

    What would happen if other things in the world were free? What if budding designers and contractors demostrated their skills by building free pubic buildings?

    Musicians and artists already use the free model to start their careers.

    AC

    1. Re:Free World by Errtu76 · · Score: 5, Funny

      What would happen if other things in the world were free?

      i'd be drunk 24/7

    2. Re:Free World by gnuLNX · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "What if budding designers and contractors demostrated their skills by building free pubic buildings?"

      While it would be nice. I think that if you look ust a tiny bit past the surface you will see that the monetary cost of a building is huge while the monetar cost of a software project is the cost of th e computer.

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    3. Re:Free World by beeglebug · · Score: 5, Funny

      What if budding designers and contractors demostrated their skills by building free pubic buildings?

      What, like short dark and curly houses?

    4. Re:Free World by russianspy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I resent that. My time is not free. I've got to buy groceries, pay mortgage, student loans etc. I spend a lot of years learning what I know and I do expect to be paid for my work.

      Don't get me wrong, I have nothing agains open source. I have contributed to several projects both on my own time and while getting paid (permission from employer). What I don't like is to be forced into giving my work away for free.

      Ideas are cheap to duplicate, but expensive to invent (cost of doing research vs. buying a book). I am one of those people who believes that both models can coexist peacefully. There is a number of software packages that are worth every penny the companies are charging for them.

    5. Re:Free World by torpor · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What I don't like is to be forced into giving my work away for free.

      Nobody is forcing you to do anything. If there was force involved in "Free Software", then it wouldn't be "Free", it'd be "Enforced" software.

      What you should be saying is, "I don't like being forced to pay out the nose for software that should be free", such as the operating system, without which your hardware is essentially useless. When you buy hardware, it does nothing until you've "bought" software to make it run.

      Ideas are cheap to duplicate, but expensive to invent (cost of doing research vs. buying a book).

      This is not an absolute. Some idea's are extremely cheap, some are very difficult (and thus costly) to realize. In the end, though, software idea's don't go anywhere without the hardware ... and it is this fact which brings about the free software movement; the notion that expensive computer hardware is essentially useless without a second, easy-to-produce (and duplicate) commodity, namely software.

      Software is easy to produce. Compare what it takes to write software with what it takes to fabricate silicon. This comparison cannot be made without the conclusion that software is *always* going to be cheaper than hardware. It is simply a natural law, alongside the other 'obvious' natural law that states that software is useless without something to run it on.

      Free software is an attempt to embrace that natural law. $oftware which co$ts is an attempt to refute it ... and involves a degree of ignorance, nay naivete, on the part of the purchaser, like all capitalist systems ...

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    6. Re:Free World by Bake · · Score: 3, Funny

      i'd be drunk 24/7

      In other words, nothing would change?

    7. Re:Free World by torpor · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Ummm... Sofware and computers are not a case of guns and ammo, my friend, and I will tell you why.

      Yeah, okay, it'd be a 'fine argument' to compare computers+software with blade+razor (though it seems you're not even thinking about it, you're just arguing) were it not for the fact that, computers and software are -essential- to each other in a profoundly different way than razors, or gas and stoves, in that they represent an infinite-resource machine.

      An essence exists in the relationship which factually promotes freedom.

      The thing about computers+software, philosophically, is that one is a resource made of generally cheap materials, refined and processed into a machine of finite design which as a product must be 100% operational to be of any value whatsoever, and one is an entire realm of infinite possibilities which requires no additional earthly resources more than electricity (generally easy to produce) in order to accomplish magnanimous gain through the productive attention of a living human being... who is incidentally, while operating in the state which produces code to run on such machines, generally not killing anyone, while enhancing their environment with wonderous tasks of automation.

      Maybe thats too deep a concept for you (this is /. after all), so maybe I should frame it a little more comfortably: When was the last time you used your gas stove to mine gas?

      (I'd love to see that hack!)

      Software 'should be free' because in fact, it is an expression of Infinity, as close to any that humans have ever made. As a resource, computers represent infinity.

      There are an infinite number of things you can do with computer+software ... as long as you've got an intrinsically finite machine (physically, I mean...) to run it on. That means a functioning power grid as much as it means silicon in a box.

      We'll run out of gas eventually, and those stoves will be useless. But good computers will run for hundreds and hundreds of years, doing productively useful things presuming we are creating civilization capable of running them ... and there's a compiler available.

      Sure, Microsoft Windows runs on those PC's now. Think those PC's (which should, factually, still be around) will be running that same software in 200 years? In 300 years? In 400?

      Free Software now means better software in the future. In Linux' case, that event horizon has been relatively short ...

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    8. Re:Free World by torpor · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Someone has to write it, which takes time and effort, and that someone should be compensated for his time and effort, assuming that someone else finds his work valuable and is willing to pay for it.

      Someone 'does have to' write software, it doesn't write itself. But you can write software for fun, for the love of it, and exclusively for the use you will get out of the hardware. It shouldn't be that the only thing you can do with computers, specific hardware, is dictated to you by an economically-ensconced technocracy.

      Free Software is radical because its at one end of the scale. Have you ever considered what is at the other end? As long as those two ends are far and wide apart, and our society supports such a suspension, then there is still tons of room in the middle for a compromise which works for all who choose to use computers to do useful things in their life.

      If, instead, software can only be licensed, and there is no choice, and there are no possibilities to further attend to that software and improve it, then the quality of software - and computer use in general - degrades. This has been proven, time and again, against many sound and resolute laws (Moore, et al.)

      I'm not advocating a free-only approach to computer usage; sure, as long as we've got an economic system which feeds us, we should strengthen that system. But we ought to be very careful about having the controls of that system usurped from us.

      Free Software is a front against that control. Compilers and run-time environments, specifically...

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    9. Re:Free World by torpor · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You're saying that software should be free because software is useless without hardware and because hardware is useless without software.

      Why yes I am.
      I suggest you read the whole thread before you break out your insult toy.

      Actually, I am intimately familiar with software development, having been a professional coder for 22 years. I know how easy it is to write good code that distributes well. Quite.

      Once the boards have been designed and the fabs built, it is very "easy" to fabricate silicon.

      So, you're saying you can FTP me a CPU upgrade? Cool, lemme at it!

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  4. Embrace don't Destroy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The fact that Microsoft hasn't seen the future just shows that they resemble the record industry in the most simple ways. Both MS and the record industry don't want to understand that soon they may have to change their buissness model, so they're trying to fight tooth and nail to keep the old one, they don't care about the cost to consumers or the economy.

    Just more proof that if you don't adapt you die.

    (PS: First Post)

    1. Re:Embrace don't Destroy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      First of all, developing countries need free software. Until they can use software to develop infrastructure and businesses, they can't afford to pay for software.

      Secondly, I think companies are fed up with more than just Microsoft's prices. A quick perusal of past /. articles shows that. I said this in response to the moron that suggested Microsoft should start OSS software efforts: Microsft needs to change their business practices, not their software development!

      Thirdly, this whole issue about claiming victories over MS IS silly! I don't care about victories over Microsoft. I just want to use softwar that works. I just want to be able to work with software that I can use and, if it doesn't quite do what I want, change it so that I can use it better!

      This isn't Marxism; this is ultra-capitalism at work. Unless and until Microsoft is willing to compete based on the quality and functionality of their products (and, no, they haven't up 'til now) they will continue to lose customers to OSS.

  5. Re:Around the world? by HenrikOxUK · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, the article has it wrong. It's taking place in over 30 counties. See the list here.

  6. Indonesia Goes Open Source Award by rahard · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Tomorrow (Friday, August 26, 2004) here in Indonesia
    there will be an Indonesia Goes Open Source Award (IGOS) 2004.

    -- budi

  7. Re:The main site is ... by HenrikOxUK · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hm. Perhaps I should link properly.

  8. Re:Around the world? by HerbieStone · · Score: 4, Funny
    30 counties... dang, this freedomday is getting smaller by the second

    ;)

  9. Singapore? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One name is especially missing - Singapore, the country with the second fastest technological adaptation in the world, close seconds to the United States and Japan.

    And that's the problem - everything in Singapore runs on Microsoft (our "world's first" automated train system [blue screen...!], traffic surveillance, etc etc). Nobody has a plausible explanation, but as a citizen I'm sorely disappointed.

  10. Go Mark! by Rico_za · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Isn't it great to see people like Mark Shuttleworth (second space tourist, and the First African in Space) investing in these kinds of worthy programmes?
    Now if only someone can convince the SA government that cheap internet is VERY important to the economy. At the moment communication in South Africa is controlled by Telkom, a monopoly. They charge more than R800 (about US$120) per month for ADSL, and they cap your bandwidth to 3 gig a MONTH. There's a good reason for the so called "digital divide" in South Africa, it's the prohibitive cost. There's a great site highlighting the grievances against Telkom, called Hellkom.

  11. Every day is free software day by Vandil+X · · Score: 4, Funny

    I hate to say it, but with BitTorrent and other various programs, every day is "Free Software Day".

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    1. Re:Every day is free software day by HenrikOxUK · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sure, but "Software Freedom Day" is only once a year :)

  12. Re:On a related note... by simcop2387 · · Score: 4, Funny

    GO GO SOURCE RANGERS, MIGHTY COMPILIN' SOURCE RANGERS!

    wouldn't that be us gentoo users? not mandrake ones?

    damn lameness filter!!!! from hells heart i stab at thee!

  13. Free software is not just Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It amazes me to no end how many people talk about "Linux apps" and Linux. We have the BSDs (which aren't encumbered by the GPL), we have other OSs like Syllable, NewOS, OpenBeOS, ReactOS. But it's always GNU/Linux that gets all the hype and press notes.

    Mike Bouma, Amiga, Inc.

  14. It is not UN sponsored! by helarno · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dudes, no! That article is in error and the people in charge of IOSN have been desperately trying to correct them before it got into really wide circulation. They are giving publicity to Software Freedom Day which is the brainchild of someone else and can be found here:

    www.softwarefreedomday.org

    Note that there are no interviews with the staff of the IOSN or the UN in the article. No direct quotes. Some reporter just looked at the web site and jumped to the wrong conclusion.

    Don't believe me? Email the IOSN people. They can be reached at sunil [at] iosn.net or khairil [at] iosn.net. They are the current torch bearers at the IOSN.

    The UN is not "sponsoring" this. That implies far too much and is too dangerous a position to take. You can't imagine the UN would take such a controversial stance would you? However, the Free and Open Source Software section of the UN can widely publicize FOSS so long as they do not claim it is the UN's official position.

    1. Re:It is not UN sponsored! by golisoda · · Score: 4, Informative

      Please see clarification from the author and UNDP

      -----Forwarded Message-----
      From: David_Legard AT idg.com
      Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:50:30 +1000
      Headline and first 2 pars altered as requested.

      -----Forwarded Message-----
      From: khairil [at] apdip.net
      Please correct the title and the lead.
      We are not organizing Software Freedom Day.
      It is organized by SoftwareFreedomDay.org team, and the events
      throughout the world are organized by Free and Open Source Software
      advocates in their respective countries. This is a grassroots movement.
      The International Open Source Network, in line with it's support of
      wider Free/Open Source Software usage in the Asia Pacific region is
      simply promoting the event and giving it coverage.

  15. Not just UN but Novell also puts event by vivekg · · Score: 3, Informative

    Novell (Suse Linux) India (Including other counties like Hong Kong and Australia), recently announces latest strategic and technical information seminar on Open Source and Linux technologies for enterprise computing.IBM also sponsors this seminar. What's more participants can win latest Linux based Motorola A760 mobile phone :)

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  16. It could also be in reaction to this - by Snart+Barfunz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    'A United Nations-funded organization has produced a Linux desktop manual for novice PC users as part of an effort to encourage developing countries to use open-source software.' - ZDNet (http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5322002.html)

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  17. Can someone PLEASE tell me... by gosand · · Score: 4, Insightful
    In a follow-up to Microsoft Leaves U.N. Standards Group, it appears that it may have been in reaction to the UN's sponsorship of the 1st annual software Freedom Day...

    OK, somebody PLEASE tell me how these things are connected. Seriously, this is a pretty pathetic attempt to spin a news story. This is a follow-up how? Are these two events connected in any way? If not, then please just report the stories. Or perhaps the tagline should be changed to "Speculation for Nerds".

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  18. I don't think there will be free buildings by jesterzog · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What would happen if other things in the world were free? What if budding designers and contractors demostrated their skills by building free pubic buildings?

    Perhaps I misunderstand, but my impression was that one of the main points behind the whole free (speech) software movement is that most other forms of information already are free.

    That is to say: Software is in quite an unusual situation, because the machine instructions are not nearly as useful as the source code from which they were derived. This is not the same as something like a book or a song, because even though there may be copyright restrictions on the distribution, those who do get it can still see and manipulate the actual building blocks of the information once they have it... at the very least for their own personal use.

    What the GPL and "free" software movement does among other things is to make sure that if someone distributes the software, then they must distribute the source version at the very least, to ensure that the person getting it has all the same rights and abilities that they would normally have with other types of information.

    An architect or builder probably won't build a free building as you've suggested, because a building isn't information in the traditional sense. (At least if they do, we're talking about something on a fundamentally different level.) But if an architect were to design plans for a building and sell them to a developer, the developer would naturally be able to adjust and perhaps continue re-distribute those plans... at which point whoever gets them can continue to do the same. Something like this isn't automatically possible with software, because it can be distributed in a form that can be used but not easily changed.

    Similarly, some artists are giving their work away under a variety of free licenses, but those licenses aren't revolutionary to art in the same way that the GPL is revolutionary to software... (although perhaps they are in other ways). With or without those licenses, it's still naturally possible (legal or not) to obtain a song or an artwork, and derive something else from it. This is not so easy with closed source software.

    I think the difference is that software information is directly used by computers whereas other blocks of information (at least those that are normally associated with distribution and trading) are directly used by people. You have to understand the words in a book to make use of it, but you don't have to understand the machine instructions in a software application... so the readable edition can be held back. Many software developers/businesses take advantage of the extra control-by-obscurity over the information that this technicality gives them. If we all had logic brains and could easily understand and manipulate the compiled software that was bought off the shelves, it wouldn't be as much of an issue. Among other things, the GPL attempts to remove that technicality and make software like most other types of information.

    I'm not exactly a strong advocate of free software besides using it for most things. If anyone thinks I've missed something important, please elaborate.

  19. Re:Slashdot FreeSoftware Day ? by Wudbaer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nonono ! This is all wrong ! Here on Slashdot we are supposed to talk about doing things, not actually do them !

  20. Please correct the story by kanaka · · Score: 5, Informative

    The story is wrong, wrong, wrong and needs corrections.

    I know the founder of Software Freedom Day, it is not the IOSN, they are simply supporting and organizing several teams. The correct site for Software Freedom Day is here:
    www.softwarefreedomday.org

    Also, please provide a source for the speculation that Microsoft withdrew because of this or retract the article. I think it is simply unhealthy speculation.

  21. UNESCO is very pro-free software by KjetilK · · Score: 3, Informative
    Thanks for the clarification.

    However,

    You can't imagine the UN would take such a controversial stance would you?

    In fact, they have, for long. For one thing you have the FSF/UNESCO Free Software Directory, and UNESCO has had a Free Software Portal, AFAIK for many years. Full with gnus and penguins. There are many people who really Get It in UNESCO, who realize that Free Software is all about promotion of Education, Science and Culture, and proprietary software is not.

    Furthermore, they (I think it was the UNESCO, couldn't find the link), issued a very critical report on DRM, exposing it for the pending cultural disaster it is.

    Unfortunately, this understanding doesn't penetrate throughout the UN. On the other extreme, you have WIPO, which is completely dominated by a *cough*superpower*cough*, takes their orders from entities like USPTO, is not open to debate and works tirelessly to strip away the rights you thought you had to participate in the cultural and scientific advancements of society.

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  22. UN distro: "UN-ix" by ewg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe the UN should sponsor their own Linux distribution. They could call it "UN-ix".

    Oh, wait a minute...

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  23. Tollhouse Cookies are Open Source by bokmann · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sometime in the 1940's, Nestle Corp approach Mrs. Ruth Wakefield, and purchased her famous 'Toll House Cookie' recipe. They named it the 'Nestle TollHouse Cookie."

    Even though they paid handsomly for the recipe, they started printing it on the bag of chocolate chips, and giving it away. Why would Nestle do this?

    Nestle does not make money by selling cookies, and they do not make money selling cookbooks. they make money by (among other things) selling Chocolate Chips.

    By giving away the recipe, people not had a reason to buy their chips. They made money, indirectly, by purchasing that recipe and giving it away.

    In a very real sense, they 'open sourced' this recipe. Since recipes are not patentable, all they could do was 'trademark' the name 'TollHouse'. If you look at a bag of Hershey's chips, Ghiardelli chips, etc, they all have the same recipe, just named differently.

    You can use this recipe with no obligation... you could break up your own favorite chocolate bar, and not have to buy any chips. You could leave the chips out entirely, and add M&Ms if you want. If you can make your own cookie for about 15 cents, why would you go to a store in a mall about pay a dollar for a cookie (US Currency)? You are paying for convenience, labor, expertise, etc.

    This is how Open Source makes money.

    Now, information is fundamentally different than tangible property. With tangible property, you don't have it once you give it to someone. Information is not like that. So how does this change the equation?

    Lets say I'm building a house. I may have to pay for the bricks and mortar, but how much does that really cost compared to the price of the house? The material for an individual brick is cheap (but not free). BUT, it takes labor, time, and expetrise to move it to where it needs to be, and assemble many of them into a structure. THIS is the majority of the cost. If I were to own the brick factory AND be the bricklayer, it might be 'worth it' for me to give away the bricks in order to charge for my time.

    Open Source philosophies are not new... they just seem to be thought of as new because of the impact they are having in a relatively new marketplace.

    -db