And this is yet another myth. Java is NEVER used by any seriou scientist. Why? It's to slow. When your application is expected to run for weeks/months/years at a time every clock cycle matters.
Java is perfectly fine and well suited for what Java is good for. It is not now, nor will it ever be, a scientific programming language. That isn't a slight against Java. Christ you can probably write games in Java now..and the speed would be fine. But sometimes you need every last bit of speed possible...you know like the function were you have to write inline assembly to maximize usage of the SSE3 registers?
I guess I just tire of the C++/Java speed debate. In the real world if you need speed you use C/C++ combine with inline assembly. That's just the way it is.
Better idea. Come up with something you are very interested in and design, impelement, and test it all by your self. Use as few libraries as possible. Make sure the project is a LARGE one comprising several hundred thousand lines at a minimum. That is how you learn. Pick something that you have no idea how to do. Then go learn it. Sure you won't implement the worlds greatest CADD program your first time through, but you will learn so much more than you ever would just working in a large team that is developing a CADD program.
After about a year into your project you will likely know more about CS than you ever did as a student. Now when you have a job working with experienced engineer types you will have the ability to very quickly assess their decisions and understand why they are choosing to do something a certain way. You won't just by a code monkey to them.
Plain and simple: Code more get better. Code harder more challenging projects and get better faster.
I've met good hackers and good CS graduates. I've met crappy hackers and crappy CS graduates. This is going to piss the parent off, but by far the best programmers I have ever met were hackers first. Sure they went on to get a degree in CS, but they are great because the love to code. All the fancy classroom training in the world can't make you good unless you have an internal drive to just learn it.
I'd die for a stable Iraq. I'd also do the same for other countries. IT'S NOT ABOUT CONTRIES. IT'S ABOUT CERTAIN BASIC RIGHTS THAT ALL HUMANS SHOULD BE AFFORDED. Oh...yeah you wouldn't understand that since you have had them your whole life.
War is wrong and evil...but to argue that war is always avoidable is to ignore all of history. Oh...and Iraq was not stable before we went there. More stable yes...but not stable. The problem with us Americans is our "Right Now" mentality. It will likely be 10-20 years before Iraq is truly stable...that's what it took for Japan.
The reality is we are there now and we HAVE TO FINISH the job or....yeah guessed it....more terrorism from those who had their country rippied apart by Americans who then deserted them. So get over the fact that we are at war and start excepting the fact that we as a people have an obligation to make sure those people have something left. Let's not just pull out and bring our boy's home...there are other peope involved.
Oh and most of those in the military that I know are damn proud to be fighting for this country.
Because one side is commiting all the crimes. Leave Israel alone and they will leave you alone. I personally don't support the recent cease fire. I think Israel should have done a full on invasion of lebanon and rooted out Hezabolla completely...at what ever cost. I think the US, and great Britain need to impose even strong sanctions on Syria and Iran. It's time for the middle age thinking to be removed from the hate breading ground of the middle east. The world will welcome them to the modern times, but fighting over land because it's "holy" is just stupid and ignorant...on both sides.
Why should we read the Qur'an. Why have plenty of Islamic radicals standing up to tell us that it promotes killing. I'm sure your right, so why don't you start by telling us the real interpretation. Why don't you make a public statement to counter what the radical groups say. Why don't you make a stand again Iran. See my point. All we hear is the negative side of your religion. It's time for Islam to clean it's own house. Come play in the modern world...drop the burkas and miltant jihad crap. It's old BS from the middle ages and it has no place in this world....I don't care what you profit's tell you.
Actually I think they should do this. Mainly because they will undoubtly uncover numerous problems with today's technology. It always takes a few bold people to go first. Their network will work, but more importantly it will help push better technologies forward as the limits of current technology are shown. So yeah it's worth a few hundred thousand dollars for the lesson IMO.
Not sure how that was modded imformative. It's illegal to break into computer systems. What's so hard with that? You can't break into someone's house and then show up the next day and show them how you did it? Also it's hard to really imagine the person having much of a career to ruin....remember they are hacking computers?
Look I grew up playing war games and such with others as well, but once you cross the line and hit a system that isn't yours then I suggest you keep your mouth shut about it. It's illegal and it should be....now if the person is sharing a drive or something totally stupid then shame on them.
What a crock of crap. So all programmers prior to UML were bad? UML is nothing more than a schematic for quickly discusing ideas...every good team will come up with their own any way.
I spent time learning UML, but the UML nazis put a damper on it. The biggest problem with UML is that it has almost as many rules as a full on progrmaming language now...so what's the point.
I agree. There should be no party. I want a free thinking man/woman to rise from the ranks of the masses on a 1 person 1 vote, no electoral college crapolla system.
How hard is that? Kids on the play ground set up simple fair voting systems...why is it that governments around the world can't get this right?
Oh please mister AC don't throw any my stones my way. My poor patheitc economically challenged brain won't be able to take it. Please I beg of you please!
To be honest I agree. I think we should quit interacting with the rest of the world. Stop all trade, outsourccing and donations. The United States is big enough to be self contained if we tried..as is China.
Then you could all deal with the crap from the rest of the world and leave us alone. Be glad there are more compationate people in office than me.
As an American let me be the first to say. You are a retard. There is something to be said for the good old boy way of life. You know where a man is "only as good as his word" and "a hand shake is all you need". It is obvious from your comments that you believe people who are different than you are some how inferior...that's pretty lame dude.
Here's a novel idea. Why don't we all stop trying to identify so much with individual nations and start trying to identify with causes we all believe in. Oh wait you probably don't believe that Americans have the same basic set of morals that you do right? All of us Americans just want to bomb out the rest of the world and knock France of their high horse huh?
Sheesh and to think you actually thought you had some sort of point with your sweeping generalizations about Americans.
I agree. I hate Java...I'm also opinionated!! LOL. I am a C++ code for the most part. When forced to use a scripting language I have found that python is the easist to extend and embedd. It's all just a matter of opinion for sure, but I will say that once I was convinced to learn Python I did have to conceed that it was the most maintanable language simply because it doesn't allow 50 million way's to do something. Just my thoughts tho.
It doesn't matter to what end. Our people (species) is genetically evolved to survive at all costs...in fact all life everywhere in the universe is and will be. That's just the way life is.
I am sorry you lost me there when I choked on my coffee. Perl is pathetic attempt at a good scripting language. Having learned several languages now I have to say Python takes the cake "I am a scientific programmer". If however I wasn't doing computational work I would almost certainly use Ruby. I hate perl. I despise Perl. Perl Sucks. Perl blows snot rings...bet ya don't know what a snot ring is do ya? That's becuase you program with Perl! j/k btw
I used perl for several years. I honestly hated it from teh get go.
That was without a doubt the best comment I have ever seen posted on slashdot...no. That was the best comment I have ever seen posted on the internet. Please Please Please dude/dudette send that letter to your congressman. You just presented a whole side of the story that no one is debating. If you truly want to make a difference then please voice THAT concern. There are a lot of people that need you.
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Are you serious? Go look what she got for her golden parachute. Screw Carly Fiorina and her billion dollar lifestyle. Who cares if a multi millionaire gets fired..they don't have to feed their families.
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And this is yet another myth. Java is NEVER used by any seriou scientist. Why? It's to slow. When your application is expected to run for weeks/months/years at a time every clock cycle matters.
Java is perfectly fine and well suited for what Java is good for. It is not now, nor will it ever be, a scientific programming language. That isn't a slight against Java. Christ you can probably write games in Java now..and the speed would be fine. But sometimes you need every last bit of speed possible...you know like the function were you have to write inline assembly to maximize usage of the SSE3 registers?
I guess I just tire of the C++/Java speed debate. In the real world if you need speed you use C/C++ combine with inline assembly. That's just the way it is.
Better idea. Come up with something you are very interested in and design, impelement, and test it all by your self. Use as few libraries as possible. Make sure the project is a LARGE one comprising several hundred thousand lines at a minimum. That is how you learn. Pick something that you have no idea how to do. Then go learn it. Sure you won't implement the worlds greatest CADD program your first time through, but you will learn so much more than you ever would just working in a large team that is developing a CADD program.
After about a year into your project you will likely know more about CS than you ever did as a student. Now when you have a job working with experienced engineer types you will have the ability to very quickly assess their decisions and understand why they are choosing to do something a certain way. You won't just by a code monkey to them.
Plain and simple: Code more get better. Code harder more challenging projects and get better faster.
I've met good hackers and good CS graduates. I've met crappy hackers and crappy CS graduates. This is going to piss the parent off, but by far the best programmers I have ever met were hackers first. Sure they went on to get a degree in CS, but they are great because the love to code. All the fancy classroom training in the world can't make you good unless you have an internal drive to just learn it.
I'd die for a stable Iraq. I'd also do the same for other countries. IT'S NOT ABOUT CONTRIES. IT'S ABOUT CERTAIN BASIC RIGHTS THAT ALL HUMANS SHOULD BE AFFORDED. Oh...yeah you wouldn't understand that since you have had them your whole life.
War is wrong and evil...but to argue that war is always avoidable is to ignore all of history. Oh...and Iraq was not stable before we went there. More stable yes...but not stable. The problem with us Americans is our "Right Now" mentality. It will likely be 10-20 years before Iraq is truly stable...that's what it took for Japan.
The reality is we are there now and we HAVE TO FINISH the job or....yeah guessed it....more terrorism from those who had their country rippied apart by Americans who then deserted them. So get over the fact that we are at war and start excepting the fact that we as a people have an obligation to make sure those people have something left. Let's not just pull out and bring our boy's home...there are other peope involved.
Oh and most of those in the military that I know are damn proud to be fighting for this country.
Because one side is commiting all the crimes. Leave Israel alone and they will leave you alone. I personally don't support the recent cease fire. I think Israel should have done a full on invasion of lebanon and rooted out Hezabolla completely...at what ever cost. I think the US, and great Britain need to impose even strong sanctions on Syria and Iran. It's time for the middle age thinking to be removed from the hate breading ground of the middle east. The world will welcome them to the modern times, but fighting over land because it's "holy" is just stupid and ignorant...on both sides.
Why should we read the Qur'an. Why have plenty of Islamic radicals standing up to tell us that it promotes killing. I'm sure your right, so why don't you start by telling us the real interpretation. Why don't you make a public statement to counter what the radical groups say. Why don't you make a stand again Iran. See my point. All we hear is the negative side of your religion. It's time for Islam to clean it's own house. Come play in the modern world...drop the burkas and miltant jihad crap. It's old BS from the middle ages and it has no place in this world....I don't care what you profit's tell you.
Actually I think they should do this. Mainly because they will undoubtly uncover numerous problems with today's technology. It always takes a few bold people to go first. Their network will work, but more importantly it will help push better technologies forward as the limits of current technology are shown. So yeah it's worth a few hundred thousand dollars for the lesson IMO.
no no no. We need to take the suprise route and boycot teens instead of theRIAA.
Not sure how that was modded imformative. It's illegal to break into computer systems. What's so hard with that? You can't break into someone's house and then show up the next day and show them how you did it? Also it's hard to really imagine the person having much of a career to ruin....remember they are hacking computers?
Look I grew up playing war games and such with others as well, but once you cross the line and hit a system that isn't yours then I suggest you keep your mouth shut about it. It's illegal and it should be....now if the person is sharing a drive or something totally stupid then shame on them.
What a crock of crap. So all programmers prior to UML were bad? UML is nothing more than a schematic for quickly discusing ideas...every good team will come up with their own any way.
I spent time learning UML, but the UML nazis put a damper on it. The biggest problem with UML is that it has almost as many rules as a full on progrmaming language now...so what's the point.
true...except google is making a ton of money. Granted I don't think all the web apps will really make any money but who knows.
chicken--egg problem. I think if we kill enough lawyers the number of law's will decrease proportionaly.
I agree. There should be no party. I want a free thinking man/woman to rise from the ranks of the masses on a 1 person 1 vote, no electoral college crapolla system.
How hard is that? Kids on the play ground set up simple fair voting systems...why is it that governments around the world can't get this right?
quite honeslty I don't want the other 70% of the country to vote.
Oh please mister AC don't throw any my stones my way. My poor patheitc economically challenged brain won't be able to take it. Please I beg of you please!
To be honest I agree. I think we should quit interacting with the rest of the world. Stop all trade, outsourccing and donations. The United States is big enough to be self contained if we tried..as is China.
Then you could all deal with the crap from the rest of the world and leave us alone. Be glad there are more compationate people in office than me.
Amen to that.
As an American let me be the first to say. You are a retard. There is something to be said for the good old boy way of life. You know where a man is "only as good as his word" and "a hand shake is all you need". It is obvious from your comments that you believe people who are different than you are some how inferior...that's pretty lame dude.
Here's a novel idea. Why don't we all stop trying to identify so much with individual nations and start trying to identify with causes we all believe in. Oh wait you probably don't believe that Americans have the same basic set of morals that you do right? All of us Americans just want to bomb out the rest of the world and knock France of their high horse huh?
Sheesh and to think you actually thought you had some sort of point with your sweeping generalizations about Americans.
No...but the good news is humans aren't nearly destructive enough to destroy the entire universe...yet.
With all do respect I believe that the universe has enough room for billions of sentient species to expand.
I agree. I hate Java...I'm also opinionated!! LOL. I am a C++ code for the most part. When forced to use a scripting language I have found that python is the easist to extend and embedd. It's all just a matter of opinion for sure, but I will say that once I was convinced to learn Python I did have to conceed that it was the most maintanable language simply because it doesn't allow 50 million way's to do something. Just my thoughts tho.
It doesn't matter to what end. Our people (species) is genetically evolved to survive at all costs...in fact all life everywhere in the universe is and will be. That's just the way life is.
"Perl is a lovely exception."
I am sorry you lost me there when I choked on my coffee. Perl is pathetic attempt at a good scripting language. Having learned several languages now I have to say Python takes the cake "I am a scientific programmer". If however I wasn't doing computational work I would almost certainly use Ruby. I hate perl. I despise Perl. Perl Sucks. Perl blows snot rings...bet ya don't know what a snot ring is do ya? That's becuase you program with Perl! j/k btw
I used perl for several years. I honestly hated it from teh get go.
That was without a doubt the best comment I have ever seen posted on slashdot...no. That was the best comment I have ever seen posted on the internet. Please Please Please dude/dudette send that letter to your congressman. You just presented a whole side of the story that no one is debating. If you truly want to make a difference then please voice THAT concern. There are a lot of people that need you.
Nice Freaking Post.
Are you serious? Go look what she got for her golden parachute. Screw Carly Fiorina and her billion dollar lifestyle. Who cares if a multi millionaire gets fired..they don't have to feed their families.