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Microsoft Portable Media Center Reviewed

dhopton writes "The first public review of the PMC that I've seen is interesting. It's critical in places, but also praises. It also covers Windows Media Player 10 to some extent. Overall, I'm looking forward to reviews of the non-Creative devices."

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  1. Just Great! by intekra · · Score: 5, Funny

    More goodies to spend my unemployment check on!

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  2. DRM? by russint · · Score: 5, Interesting

    DRM-Enabled media players? No thanks.

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    1. Re:DRM? by e9th · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah. Gouker even seems to feel that licensing, rather than owning, music is the way to go. Maybe it is if all you listen to is here today, gone tomorrow top-40 crud that you'll be bored with in a month.

  3. Robotic Women? by joeldixon66 · · Score: 5, Funny

    From TFA: And please, I don't mean to get you worried at this point, I don't find them attractive in a sexual way or anything like that, I'm much more drawn to a nice 5'8" red head than anything made of silicon, LOL, err, no pun intended.

    If only there was a way to combine the red head with the silicon. *ponders*

  4. Homestar... by hypermike · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm Corey Gouker (obviously); I'm a Media Center MVP who hangs out in the Microsoft newsgroups...
    I'm pretty much an average geek...

    As Homestar would say: More like NOT AVERAGE GEEK!

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  5. Links to mirrors of video and photos by tao_of_biology · · Score: 5, Informative
    Hey, since it's getting slashdotted already. ;)

    He has a link to mirrors of his photos and videos of the device (which I'm mainly interested in anyway). They are:

    WMV: External Overview of Creative Zen PMC (temporarily down) Mirror 1 Mirror 2
    WMV: Demo of Portable Media Center UI (temporarily down) Mirror 1 Mirror 2
    Gallery of Images from Creative Zen PMC Mirror 1 Mirror 2

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  6. My favorite quote by PunkPig · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "...so I had high hopes that they might be a breakthrough device that would fit my needs perfectly. Something that would really do damage to Apple's iPod."

    This guy has a real hate on for Apple doesn't he?

    1. Re:My favorite quote by jest3r · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Why even bother comparing a portable video player to the iPod? Oranges and Apples really.

      In reality there is nothing special about the PMC OS. The Creative Zen PMC Player looks like a cheap version of the upcoming Sony PSP.

      Either way you can't really call the Creative player portable ... its as thick as a brick.

  7. It's a blog! by Philippe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's long-winded, reminescent of Jerry Pournelle's columns in Byte. It takes forever to get to the point. It's from a guy who (apparently) has a 204 MB music collection!

    And we should pay attention to him why?

    P.S. that thing looks huge. It has a GUI, for cryin' out loud!

    1. Re:It's a blog! by garcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It takes forever to get to the point.

      He doesn't ever actually make any points other than showing off at his DVD, music, TV, and movie collections. Honestly I don't give a flying rats ass WHY you were chosen to test something and I certainly don't care about how much music you have...

      He said that the UI is fast while loading the songs he put on the device. How long did it take to put those songs on the device? Did you have to load a special driver for it (possible DRM) or did it just use USB mass storage that is standard with more recent Windows versions?

      He did mention that the external sound sucks and that the display isn't any good in the daylight. Sounds like a bummer to me. I am not exactly going to be sitting at home watching movies on my portable media player.

      I am more concerned with battery life and heat from the 400mhz XScale CPU.

      I guess he didn't spend enough time explaining that afterall he did have to type out 204GB several times and count all his tracks in his music collection (44,190).

  8. Philistine! by spellraiser · · Score: 4, Funny
    Overall, I'm looking forward to reviews of the non-Creative devices.

    I'm not. As a patron of the arts, I find this statement unexplicable. Creativity is what separates us from the lower animals! It is the foundation of civilization!

    Go and play with your non-Creative devices, plebeian. Some people were just not born to appreciate the finer things in life. Run along now, you're cramping my contemptuos sneer.

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    1. Re:Philistine! by Bombcar · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sound level of a 747 at 50,000 feet: 1dB
      Sound level of a 747 taking off next to you: 120dB
      Sound level of a F-16 doing mach 2: 160dB
      Sound level of a joke flying right over your head: 180dB

  9. "non-Creative" devices... by gargonia · · Score: 5, Funny

    If it's a Microsoft product I'm pretty sure you can count on it being non-creative.

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  10. The Zen Media Center by vijayiyer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a Media Center, perhaps, but it looks about as portable as a Mac Portable. Can I carry it with me? Sure. Do I _want_ to carry it with me? Absolutely not.

  11. Affliations put to the side by SilentChris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ignoring it's Microsoft, and ignoring that there will probably be a million posts about iPod in a few seconds, I think this is going to be very interesting to watch for an entertainment and psychological standpoint (outside tech).

    Will people actually carry one of these around for their commutes? How much of an increase will we see in TV viewing? Will it contribute to the growing social isolation I'm beginning to see (a world full of people wearing headphones)?

    I'd give it a few revisions and then consider buying one.

  12. Maybe it's just me but... by topham · · Score: 4, Interesting



    Maybe it's just me being paranoid, but, this looks like a setup.

    I mean, poor english, no train of thought and a site with a single blog topic.

    Sounds like Microsoft advertising department to me. (trying desperately to not be an ad).

    1. Re:Maybe it's just me but... by dasmegabyte · · Score: 5, Informative

      You may be on to something. Check this out. If this is as it seems, Corey's not a 20 year old student...he's been working with Microsoft for 8 years.

      Fucking insidious.

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    2. Re:Maybe it's just me but... by huchida · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I believe it's a setup too. Google "Corey Gouker"... Wade through some of the results, interesting what you'll find.

      This is either the biggest-- and most clueless-- Microsoft fanboy in existence, or Microsoft's ad department is creating a fake blogger (actually, blog community) to give their products some "street cred."

  13. Trying to be objective by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This does sound like a neat toy, though it's portability would certainly be limited. The ability to load up video files and play them on any TV certainly is an attractive prospect -- but I would only be interested if it can play back non-DRM encumbered Divx/Xvid files.

    Back to the portability issue, this thing looks huge, and would only fit in the largest of pockets. I recently picked up a Rio Karma, and really can't imagine walking around freely with anything much larger than that. Also, I wonder how long this thing can run on battery power. With that huge color screen, I would think not long. (though maybe the screen can be turned off)

  14. Mind numbing review by IamGarageGuy+2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That has got to be the most long, drawn out review for a product I have ever seen. How about not writing it like a book that involves your mothers TV viewing habits, and your walk to the store.

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  15. WMP10 Feature by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Funny
    FTA:
    "But really one of the main things in WMP10 is Janus [DRM technology]."

    <sarcasm>Remember, kids, it's a feature, not a bug!!</sarcasm>
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  16. What about Archos? by cj171 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Archos has had these kinds of portable media players out for at least a year now..with no drm, and recording from video sources to mpeg4 or divx I believe. Definitely something fishy in that blog

  17. Yeah, this is going to TOTALLY smoke the iPod. by Moofie · · Score: 5, Funny
    I mean, come on! It's full of Microsoft goodness! Just look at the fun you can have trying to turn it on!
    I unplug it and try turning it on, it doesn't come on, I take the battery out and pop it back in, still nothing. Keep the battery out and plug it in, still nothing, then I pull the power out slowly and with the plug in half way the screen goes white. I was baffled. I thought the device might be dead. After letting it charge again for another hour or so I tried again, still nothing. I tried some tricks to get it to turn on that sometimes work with electronics and such. Like holding the power button in and popping the battery in and plugging it in, trying the reset button, holding the Start (aka green) button and pressing power, everything I could come up with. Finally, somehow the device turned on.

    Yeah, I'm going to break my iPod into teeny little pieces and use the polycarbonate shards to open my veins before I buy one of these POSes.
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  18. He must make the RIAA proud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting
    "Besides that, I'm just an average guy with an anything but average collection of digital media. Some stats I compiled about a month ago are pretty out there. I was sitting on a 204GB collection of music. That's approximately 44,190 tracks for the curious."

    So that's about $80,000 of CDs (which of course he purchased legally, right?)...all college students should follow his example.

  19. Re:Surprise, surprise by Bombcar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually, considering how many people still use and defend Apple's failures (G4 Cube, Newton), one could argue that Apple doesn't usually design a crappy product, but sometimes overestimates the demand for it at the price point they use.

  20. Article Summary by Sinner · · Score: 5, Funny

    Corey Gouker is a 20 year-old geek who likes 5'8" redheads. He sits on 204 GB of music. He has one media device. His hobbies including hanging out in Microsoft newsgroups.

    He is reviewing Microsoft's "iPod killer". It is gonna be like iTunes, except instead of buying music, you rent it. We all know this is a foolproof business model. It is loaded up to the gills with more of that tasty DRM that everyone loves.

    The first thing he did was plug it in to the mains. Then he tried to take it apart. I think we have a potential Darwin Award nominee, folks. Then he had trouble turning it on.

    The device has a 400MHz XScale CPU and 64Mb of RAM. It can play videos on its 320x240 screen. It performs well, apart from the artifacts and frame drops.

    The device has cables coming out of every side but one. The good news is, you can add blue LEDs and make it really sexy.

    Battery life is 22 hours for audio and 7 hours for video. The device weighs as much as a can of coke.

    If you scroll to the bottom, you can download a 23Mb video. I'm too bored to watch it, maybe someone else can post a summary of that.

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  21. Re:wow by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think it will really take off and everyone will have one!

    Sincerely,

    Betamax

  22. For an alternate view.. by jlouderb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm pretty down on the PMC. I put my reasons together here on ExtremeTech. It's not a review, but I've had hands-on time with all of them (real reviewers are forbidden to post a review until the Non-Disclosure expires sometime in the near future).

    Then, after being raked over the coals by Microsoft apologists, I revised my opinions. The PMC is actually a brilliant trojan horse that'll let Microsoft take over the porn industry!

    jim

  23. Article Summary by callipygian-showsyst · · Score: 5, Funny
    For those who don't want to read the whole thing.

    Hi! My name is Corey! I love myself. I'm a big geek and take lots of photos and have a big movie collection. And I like girls! I spend all my time on the Internet chatting about stuff

    I spend lots of money on electronic things. And because I'm so important and special I got a Portable Media Center! It's way cool! It's not an iPod! It's something different

    I have such a large movie collection, I'll wear once of these out a week! I have lots of on-line friends who love to read my blog. I live in my parents basement

    Even though I just said I'm an ultra high-tech geek, I serve this web site on a slow DSL connection from my l33t Linux box. Please use a mirror!