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Logitech Gives A Mouse A Laser

Kaveh writes "Looks like Logitech has introduced a successor to its popular MX line of cordless mice. In addition to a more ergonomic design, lithium ion battery, tilt wheel (read horizontal scrolling), and battery indicating LEDs, this mouse introduces laser technology. According to the Logitech this allows the MX1000 to be 20x more precise than optical mice, not to mention work on any surface, including a mirror! Check out the 3DGPU forums for pics and more info."

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  1. LASER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    With the Dr. Evil finger quotes: Cool, a mouse with a "LAAAASER!!"

    1. Re:LASER by MyDixieWrecked · · Score: 4, Funny

      damnit, that was the first thing I thought of.... only...

      I want mice with a fricken laser attached to its head.

      but now for a real post:

      I really dig this idea. Being able to annihilate your roommates with your mouse? I've always had the need to take out the obnoxious kids I live with when they play their shit music.

      could this double as a laser pointer? Imagine a cordless laser-driven mouse that also had pointing capabilities for presentations and such. that'd be rad.

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    2. Re:LASER by mkro · · Score: 4, Informative
      could this double as a laser pointer? Imagine a cordless laser-driven mouse that also had pointing capabilities for presentations and such. that'd be rad.
      No, it can't. The laser under the MX1000 has no visible light.
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  2. Oh, they mean computer mice by ndogg · · Score: 5, Funny

    I really was hoping for mice with frickin' lasers on their headers. Darn.

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    1. Re:Oh, they mean computer mice by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 5, Funny

      On their headers?

      Man, you been coding too long. Go outside for a while.

    2. Re:Oh, they mean computer mice by TheContact · · Score: 5, Funny

      // file: mice.h
      #include "frickin_lasers.h" ...

      I hope I've made your day. :)

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    3. Re:Oh, they mean computer mice by sharkey · · Score: 5, Funny

      The Yellow face, it BURNSSSSS us!

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  3. A mirror? by Hawkxor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've been waiting for this. On my table with a glass plate on top, I have to use a mouse pad for my optical mouse, but I don't need one for my regular mouse. This technology actually serves the purpose an optical mouse should.

    1. Re:A mirror? by peipas · · Score: 5, Informative

      I am holding the box for the MX1000 in front of me right now and it begs to differ in fine print after an asterisk:

      "The laser sensor will not work on surfaces that reflect, like mirrors or glass."

    2. Re:A mirror? by FlipmodePlaya · · Score: 5, Informative

      From the forum post linked in the article:

      "Already you might be surprised to know that this mouse has had no issues with any surface I have tried it on, including a mirror. It states that you shouldn't use it with reflective surfaces but I wanted to see what this thing could do."

    3. Re:A mirror? by gregh2000 · · Score: 5, Informative

      I currently own a MX1000, and I have tried it on a mirror, and my computer's monitor and neither of them work. I wonder if the mirror they used had a bunch of dust on it and it was tracking the dust, or what the deal is, but it doesn't work on mine.

    4. Re:A mirror? by squidinkcalligraphy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm guessing that there is a health danger with reflective surfaces. You probably don't want that shit reflecting onto your retina.

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    5. Re:A mirror? by Fizzl · · Score: 4, Funny

      I just imagined myself using a laser mouse on a glass table. Damn that would be hilarious.

      I have a cat. It already goes wild with ordinary flashlight. With a tiny laser dot jumping under my desk a mayhem would ensue.

      Goodbye tangled cabling I have under my desk.

  4. "this mouse introduces laser technology." by sulli · · Score: 4, Funny
    For decades, science fiction writers and futurists alike have been predicting the day that laser technology would finally come to fruition. Who would have thought that it would be Logitech to at last bring laser technology to market, and that it would be a lowly mouse that would make it possible?

    With this breakthrough, Logitech truly enters the forefront of American innovation. We should all look to Logitech for inspiration.

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  5. Potential danger? by FiReaNGeL · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dangerous! You know, the "I'll clean my mouse" routine... flip mouse toward face... arghhh! My eyes!

    Of course, if you`re lucky AND already have bad vision, you could just laser-correct your problem, i guess :) 2000$ saved, 50$ investment, Do It Yourself! Isn`t technology cool?

  6. 20x more precise by chrono325 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is this really useful? I mean, I have never had a problem with my mouse not having the resolution to click the "submit" button. Seriously though, I think mouse (and keyboard) makers have run into a similar problem as sound card makers: our mice/soundcards are already good enough. I personally have a Logitech mx500 and love it to death, but I do not see any way the pointing function could be improved. Oh well, its a frickin laser.

    1. Re:20x more precise by Barlo_Mung_42 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I know and I agree. But.
      *sigh*
      I'm still gonna have to get one.

  7. Slashdotted.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
  8. Re:wireless + laser = short battery life? by harikiri · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have an MX700 from Logitech. The beauty of this device is that it comes with a stylish cradle, that serves both as the wireless base station for the mouse, along with being a recharger unit as well.

    I remember a few years back having an early Logitech wireless mouse/keyboard combo. Then, one late night while we were doing a change - the batteries died, and I had none spare. At that point I decided never to use a "wireless" keyboard or mouse till they came with a recharge unit. Thus, the MX700 was awesome for me.

    I would be very suprised if this new model didn't use the same system.

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  9. I like my original title better... by kaveh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "World's 1st Laser Mouse! (Optical is obsolete)"

    Either way I'm hoping I can just swap this mouse in for my current MX700 in my logitech cordless keyboard/mouse set. That way I can use the same reciever that also connects the mouse. It is important to note that this mouse uses Fast RF technology like the MX700 and not Bluetooth like the MX900. Some gamers weren't happy with the performance of the Bluetooth model.

  10. Re:Give a mouse a laser... by MikeXpop · · Score: 5, Funny

    Give a mouse a shark, he'll want a pool.

    Give a mouse a pool, he'll want an underground labratory to put them all in.

    Give a mouse an underground lab, he'll want a laptop with wifi to take over the world.

    Give a mouse a laptop with wifi, he'll want a coffee table to set it on.

    Give a mouse a table to set it on, he'll want an optical mouse that works with the glass.

    Give a mouse the new Logitech.

    ???

    Profit.

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  11. Clickable like ;) by kunjan1029 · · Score: 4, Informative

    opps

    here's the clickable one

    Mirror

    Damn have to wait 2 minutes~

  12. Re:Does It Fix This Problem? by orthogonal · · Score: 4, Funny

    The only thing I do not like is the weird quark all optical mice have.

    Ahem.

    I think you meant strange quark .

    Sorry, correcting incorrect assumptions about physics is a strange quirk. of mine. :)

  13. Mice and What They're Good For by captnitro · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does it ever make you wonder 'what if computing advanced like mice do'? In some ways, they do, but I mean, we have wireless mice, wireless optical and laser mice, wireless optical laser geneboosted mice that have nine buttons with integrated phone features, and they're all totally transparent, incredibly essential cruxes of the modern computing experience.

    can we get somebody from the mouse department over to the HD storage density department? Or the hardware installation department, because I still have to visit my grandfather every time he needs to install RAM. Perhaps, even, we should transfer the entire mouse department over to the user interface department, so they can explain to me why 'Exit' is for the love of god still after 20 years in the 'File' menu (Mac users, you're OK on this one). Those two, after all, have a lot to do with each other. Finally, they could stop over at the Windows dev group and explain to them that I should not have to notify Windows of my intention to disconnect my fully hotswappable device.

    I could go on, but I think you get the idea.

  14. Needed warning label by dougmc · · Score: 4, Funny
    Do not look into laser with remaining eye
    (No, it's not mine. And the laser isn't likely to have enough power to really hurt anybody's eye. But it still seems appropriate. :)
  15. Class of Laser? by Soldrinero · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I actually read the article (I am new here) but didn't see anything mentioning what class of laser it uses. It does say that the manufacturer recommends not using it on mirrored surfaces. It's possible, though unlikely, for a class II laser (such as is found in a laser pointer) to cause eye damage. I've been in classrooms with optical mice invoerted and shining their light out at students. Is this something that we're going to have to worry about with a laser mouse? Of course, if it's a class I (such as is found in CD players) there's no concern at all. Does anybody have any information on this?

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    1. Re:Class of Laser? by Technician · · Score: 5, Informative

      The picture of the bottom of the mouse shows the laser label. "Class 1 laser device"


      If memory serves me right, a class 1 LASER device has a totaly enclosed interlocked LASER system.

      This means no external radiation of LASER light unless the device is opened and interlocks are defeated. It's the same rating CD drives have. The drive must be opened (cover removed) and tricked into operation without a CD in place to turn on the LASER and cause any exposure.

      If it truly uses a LASER to track and is class 1, it must have another LED to sense the presence and movement of the target (table, pad, etc) before it will turn on the laser. Otherwise it would have a class 2 or 3b rating like a supermarket UPC scanner. They may have done this to save power when the mouse is not moving (low power LED when stationary or not on a surface) and to get the safer LASER class 1 rating.

      I imagine it will only kick on the LASER when the low power light detects movement and kicks on the LASER for the resolution.

      LASER is an acronym. I'm not shouting.

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  16. Dear Logitech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just wanted to drop you a note to remind you that some of the people in the world who want a fancy-schmancy, full-featured mouse are LEFT HANDED!

    I guess I'll just have to keep giving my money to the companies that want my business (i.e. make symmetrical mice with lots of bells and whistles).

    You had a clue once, even making lefty versions of your mice back in the day. What happened?

    Signed,

    Someone who can play first person shooters using the actual arrow keys, not that "WASD" shit.

  17. Picking nits. by iamdrscience · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just to be a dick, this isn't the first mouse that uses a laser. There were a few laser mice (pre "optical" mice) but they required a special pad so the advantages over a regular mouse were minimal (really just that you didn't have to clean them).

  18. Re:Finally! by knodi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    or a tilt switch. just because the mouse is high-tech doesn't mean you need to make it as complex as possible.

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  19. Power effeciency of lasers by FooAtWFU · · Score: 4, Informative

    Lasers actually don't take all that much power- they're highly efficient. Then again, the LED which they're replacing doesn't usually take too much power either. My guess is that it's not a significant change.

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  20. Re:Give a mouse a laser... by Dizzle · · Score: 5, Funny

    INFORMATIVE!?

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  21. Re:Give a mouse a laser... by MikeXpop · · Score: 5, Informative

    FUNNY!? /sorry, couldn't resist //watch this get modded informative

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  22. Ergonomic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Okay, what the hell is the deal with this "ergonomic" mice that have your hand all sideways and require you rest your entire palm on it, moving it with your arm? It's getting harder and harder to find good small mice that just fit under your fingers, allowing you to control them with your hand. In mice, "ergonomic" just means "really really big and sorta cool looking, but completely impractical."

  23. Call me crazy but I like mouse pads.. by cbreaker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They make some nice mouse pads- I hate but bulky ones with the big gel-packs and crap, but I like the ones with a really nice surface like a velvet-like material I have on my main workstation.

    They help the mouse move smoother; if you have a hard surface they get "sticky" and make it difficult to make precise movements. The pads get dirty really fast without a mouse pad. AND, you can really screw up the surface of your desk if you use the mouse without a pad.

    Who wants a sticky mouse that grinds over dirt and wears out your desk? I'll take my nice comfortable mouse pad any day.

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    1. Re:Call me crazy but I like mouse pads.. by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah, me too. I do not use a mouse pad at work, but I could care less about scratching that desk.

      At home, I use some giant mousepad I found at CompUSA. Unfortunately, they do not list the product on their website. It is about 4x the size of a normal pad and is the old school fabric over foam type. It does great for FPS gaming, as I never run out of room.

      The ones with fabric/velvet do suck for ball mousing due to the amount of crud they tend to transfer to the ball over time, but seem to be the best thing for an optical.

      Another thing I have learned from using a mouse on a desktop surface for years is that the little feet on the bottom of the mouse wear out quicker, causing the mouse's action to not feel very smooth.

  24. Re:Ya know... by MyDixieWrecked · · Score: 4, Funny

    I might also want a mirrored table in the first place.

    damn cocaine addict!

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  25. NewEgg is shipping them. That's great and all, but by Guspaz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    does anyone know of some place in Canada that will ship them? NewEgg, in their infinite wisdom, doesn't ship to Canada.

    BTW, all you Americans, NewEgg is sold out, looks like we slashdotted their stock ;)

  26. Re:Finally! by prockcore · · Score: 4, Funny

    or a tilt switch.

    Yes! Dangerous eye melting lasers combined with mercury! I like your style.

    Now let's just make it small enough to be a choking hazard.

  27. Re:This is nice by ThogScully · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My first optical mouse was an MS Intellimouse Explorer (the original, freaking huge one). I use that on my laptop, but got a wireless Logitech MX700 for my desktop.

    Honestly, I'm a bit disappointed in the Logitech because of exactly what you're talking about. My Intellimouse Explorer has no problem tracking on any surface or any fine control. The Logitech is a pain to use with graphics apps.

    I've always been a fan of MS's mic, but decided to try out Logitech because MS hadn't released a wireless optical yet. I wish I hadn't in retrospect. And this comes from a very anti-MS attitude regarding software.
    -N

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  28. Re:Finally! by BillyBlaze · · Score: 4, Informative

    Lasers are absolutely not inherently more dangerous than any other form of light. The danger comes from the amplitude of light that enters your eye, which is a function of the power of the source, the distance, and the focusing. So assuming they focus the laser as diffusely as they focus the red light from current optical mice, it's no more dangerous.

  29. Some pictures of the MX1000 by z3021017 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Since the site is /.ed:
    Picture One

    Picture Two

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  30. Re:Some background on water and U.S. law by davidgay · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Nothing like Slashdot for gross misinformation. From Logitech's web site:

    Founded
    1981 -- Apples, Switzerland

    (I found it pretty amusing when, years ago, I was using a mouse from "Apples" with an Apple IIe. It was a rather sucky mouse back then, mind you...)

    Of course, these days its a large multinational company, so claiming it for any particular country is just pointless nationalism.

  31. Or you could go the MasterCard approach... by Ignominious+Cow+Herd · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mechanical mouse with rubber ball that gets gummed up with dust and crud: $19.00

    Optical mouse that doesn't work well on many surfaces: $39.00

    Laser mouse that works on any surface and spawns lots of "frickin laser" jokes: Priceless.

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    1. Re:Or you could go the MasterCard approach... by dorsey · · Score: 5, Funny

      The Cease and Desist letter from Mastercard will be arriving in your mail shortly.

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  32. Re:Give a mouse a laser... by ch3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wow, didn't knew that Slashdot moderation system was based on just asking for what you want.
    That will be insightful for me then, thanks.

  33. Re:Give a mouse a laser... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    Something actually informative for those who don't know what this is about...

    If you give a mouse a cookie...

  34. Re:Finally! by spectecjr · · Score: 4, Informative

    Lasers are absolutely not inherently more dangerous than any other form of light. The danger comes from the amplitude of light that enters your eye, which is a function of the power of the source, the distance, and the focusing. So assuming they focus the laser as diffusely as they focus the red light from current optical mice, it's no more dangerous.

    1. In that case, why use a laser at all? Why not use an ultrabright red LED? To have any benefit in using a laser at all, they must be making use of interference effects, which means they need a coherent light source. Which meas that no, they won't diffusely focus the light at all.

    2. The danger comes from the fact that laser light is planar, and because of this not only will your eye will attempt to focus it, and will open the pupil wider in response to it at the same time, for maximum retinal damage.

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  35. speaking of the intellimouse... by SethJohnson · · Score: 4, Funny


    I was working on a virus the other day. I thought it would be cool to write a virus that would replace the Intellimouse USB driver with a full-blown scanner and OCR combination. I was going to have this virus then post any text the mouse was hovering over on peoples' desks to an IRC channel. You know, it would be interesting / valuable to see what documents people had laying on the surface of their desks.

    So I was disassembling the Intellimouse USB driver just to see if I would have to build mine from scratch or if I could patch into the existing binary.

    Well, to my extreme surprise, I was late to market with my innovation: Microsoft has already built this into their driver! Somewhere in Redmond, there's got to be a room with guys staring at screens going, "Goddamnit Cheney! Push the mouse a little more to the left! We still need three more digits of the nuclear launch codes!"
  36. Re:Some background on water and U.S. law by Erik+Hollensbe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Your comment got me thinking....

    My first IBM PC in the home was a 286/16, somewhere between '86 and '88 - I can't remember. It came with a Logitech 3 button mouse.

    That mouse was with all my machines until around '96 or '97. A roommate's cat gave it a bath by knocking it in a soda cup. Sadly enough, I remember how angry I got over that. :)

    Naturally, given the quality of the mouse I had, I figured I'd buy another logitech. That thing didn't last 2 weeks. At least I got my money back for that one.

    2-3 years down the road, I was in the market for yet another mouse, so I figured I'd get another Logitech - that thing lasted about 3 months.

    After going through tons of mice since around '96, I finally settled on something that I like: a shitty Microsoft Optical that cost me $20. Combine it with a nice $25 mouse pad and it plays better than or equal to your MX<insert number of the week here>. I have recieved several unsolicited comments about how smooth it works and how well it tracks.

    MX1000 sounds very neat but I'll be sure to wait for the corded version - I've done my tour with wireless mice and now the only thing that bothers me about them is that my wife complains because I pawned the $120 mouse off to her to take the $20 mouse I have now. :)

    What I don't get - when microsoft first started selling mice, you could look on the bottom of the mouse and it would say something to the effect of "manufacturered by logitech". If they can manage to make MS mice better than their own....sigh.