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Automated DMCA Notices Still Full of Lies

dbaker writes "The MPAA filed a DMCA takedown notice against Superconnect, a software company. The letter is available here that demands the removal of roughly 120K of open-source TCL code that they believe to be a 'copyrighted motion pictures.' This is definitely a surprising case of the guilty until proven innocent world that the DMCA provides." And yet another: enrico_suave writes "The Entertainment Software Association falsely accuses the Interactive Fiction archive of pirating Doom 3. doom3.zip is a 114kb freeware DOS game from 1988. Reminiscent of when the RIAA sent C & D's to a Professor Usher who had an usher.mp3 file posted on his website."

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  1. Wow! by OverlordQ · · Score: 4, Funny
    Infringement Detail:
    Infringing Work: X-FILES, THE Season 1-7
    Filepath: /pub/tcl/sorted/file/X-Files1.21b/
    Filename: X-Files1.21b.tar.gz
    First Found: 2 Sep 2004 07:29:7 EDT (GMT -0400)
    Last Found: 2 Sep 2004 07:29:7 EDT (GMT -0400)
    Filesize: 113k


    Damn that's some nice gzip compression, where can I get some of that?!
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    1. Re:Wow! by Brian+Boitano · · Score: 5, Funny

      maybe they've converted the episodes to ASCII or something...

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    2. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think it's time to create a bunch of bogus files and them everywhere...

    3. Re:Wow! by marco0009 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Whoever did this has too much free time: ASCII Star Wars

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    4. Re:Wow! by Dever · · Score: 5, Informative
      damn, first time for everything. the link is here and it is http://cbservices.dyndns.org/Anti-DMCA/

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  2. MPAA should compare MD5SUMs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh, wait.

    1. Re:MPAA should compare MD5SUMs by Colonel+Cholling · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah dude, I totally remember the MD5s, they had that song "Kick out the Jams," man, it like totally rocked.

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  3. Why Not Try To Screw The RIAA/MPAA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why don't all the geeks in a collective act of corporate law disobediance just start using files with the names of copyrighted music/movies/literature/software and force the record and movie labels to waste tons of their financial resources sending out worthless legal letters?

    1. Re:Why Not Try To Screw The RIAA/MPAA? by rjelks · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm gonna open a project for a FTP client on sourceforge right now. How does The_Princess_Diaries_2 sound?

    2. Re:Why Not Try To Screw The RIAA/MPAA? by Night+Goat · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Why don't all the geeks in a collective act of corporate law disobediance just start using files with the names of copyrighted music/movies/literature/software and force the record and movie labels to waste tons of their financial resources sending out worthless legal letters?

      Two reasons. First, the letters are sent out automatically to people who are flagged during their internet robots' scans across the internet. There isn't a guy typing these up and spending time looking for warez. Secondly, I like to know what my files are, and how I keep track of that is with understandable file names. So it makes no point to start labeling all my files "starcraft.zip".

    3. Re:Why Not Try To Screw The RIAA/MPAA? by mutewinter · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Its just like sharing fake files on P2P apps but with a completely opposite intention ;)

    4. Re:Why Not Try To Screw The RIAA/MPAA? by snoopyjd · · Score: 5, Interesting

      But they would have to exert effort if you challanged their claim. A letter to their attornies, or a small claims suit would force them spend time reviewing the case. Since you would have nothing to fear, the files are not in fact copyrighted (assuming that you file name is general enough not to infringe their trademarks), you would have very little to risk other than your time.

      I think this is a great idea, I will begin post the files.

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    5. Re:Why Not Try To Screw The RIAA/MPAA? by Xzzy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Already on it:

      http://www.xzzy.org/warez/

      When in reality, each of them are jpegs of kittens!

    6. Re:Why Not Try To Screw The RIAA/MPAA? by Kenja · · Score: 4, Funny
      "When in reality, each of them are jpegs of kittens!"

      Hey... Thats my kitten! You thieving bastard!

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  4. IT just goes to show you.... by xmorg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That they are not as smart as you think. They probably dont even read or listen the content or compare the size.

    WE'RE WATCHING YOU - doesnt sound as scary, especially if they really dont know what they are seeing.

    1. Re:IT just goes to show you.... by ultranova · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That they are not as smart as you think. They probably dont even read or listen the content or compare the size.

      Why should they ? If these letters are sent automatically, it's much faster to skip any checks and just send the letter whenever there's even the slightest cause of suspicion. After all, the false positives won't hurt the them, just the poor bastard whose ISP gets such a letter and cuts the service.

      WE'RE WATCHING YOU - doesnt sound as scary, especially if they really dont know what they are seeing.

      You aren't scared that you might be punished (your ISP cuts the Internet access, police confiscates your computer, legal fees start piling up, you'll have to settle out of court or go banckrupt...) even if you're not guilty and there's no real evidence against you, just on some third-rate AIs word ? I would be, were I an American...

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  5. Newsflash by Zorilla · · Score: 4, Funny

    The letter is available here that demands the removal of roughly 120K of open-source TCL code that they believe to be a 'copyrighted motion pictures.'

    In other news, proof of life on Alpha Centauri was found on a Bazooka Joe bubble gum wrapper yesterday.

    Yeah, makes just about as much sense as motion pictures in code.

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  6. Another thing by iamdrscience · · Score: 5, Informative

    This also reminds me of when the BSA tried to get a university to take down unlicensed copies of MS Office that were, in fact, copies of Open Office. Link here.

    Seriously, you'd think these people would bother to at least give files a once over before sending out cease-and-desist letters.

  7. Experiment... by IronMagnus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm half tempted to go putting up nonsence zip files with movie names just for the hell of it, see if I get any emails.

  8. Harassment? by Groovus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At what point can wrongfully accused parties level countersuits for harassment (if at all)?

    INAL to the extreme, so I may be way off base here, but it seems like wasting peoples' time and resources like this should make you open to such suits.

  9. Overseas by Albanach · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Overseas, at least here in the UK, if you lose a court case you generally have to pay the other parties court costs. I can understand why you want people to be free to sue, but it seems that these days this is more a tool in favour of the big boys rather than a safety net for the little guy. Not that I expect the law to change, just making an observation.

  10. Sue by josh3736 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    As much as I hate advocating yet another lawsuit, I'd sue the bastards.

    This is ridiculous. The MPAA is sending off threatening legal letters to anyone who might even look suspicious.

    Thank you, DMCA!

  11. Re:May be violating the law by SirTwitchALot · · Score: 4, Informative

    Someone with mod points mod this down, and don't go to the link... it's a troll and not safe for work

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  12. we hereby state... by robochan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Also pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we hereby state, und
    er penalty of perjury, that we are authorized to act on behalf of the owner
    s of the exclusive rights being infringed as set forth in this notification..."

    Is ANYONE that's gotten one of these ever going to call them on this bullshit and have them sent to jail for perjury?

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    1. Re:we hereby state... by ahsile · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Nope. I got one... but I'm from Canada, so the DMCA doesn't pertain to me. I did try to scare my GF with the letter though, but it didn't work.

    2. Re:we hereby state... by Patrick+Lewis · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They aren't the owner of the TCL code. Thus, they are commiting perjury.

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    3. Re:we hereby state... by kfg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They ARE authorized to act on behalf of the owner.

      ". . .of the exclusive rights being infringed as set forth in this notification..."

      The people they represent are not the owners and have no such exclusive rights.

      KFG

    4. Re:we hereby state... by finkployd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How do you figure? Was the RIAA authorized to act on behalf of Professor Usher when demanding that he remove usher.mp3? That is literally what they are claiming.

    5. Re:we hereby state... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      This has been answered on slashdot before:

      http://interviews.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03 /0 7/24/1326224&tid=123&tid=95&tid=11

      Your question raises an important point. We feel strongly that everyone should comply with the requirements of all laws. Legal process under the DMCA or any other provision of law should be undertaken with the utmost care and good faith. Failure to do so undermines the credibility and effectiveness of our legal system.

      Having said that, it appears your interpretation of the language in 512 (c)(3)(vi) is in error. The phrase "under penalty of perjury," applies to the representation that the complaining party is authorized to act on behalf of the copyright owner. It does not apply to the accuracy of the information about the alleged infringement. Quoting federal district Judge Bates in Verizon v. RIAA, The DMCA also requires a person seeking a subpoena to state, under penalty of perjury, that he is authorized to act on behalf of the copyright owner, 257 F. Supp.2d 244, at 262. In other words, the perjury clause may be violated if you seek a DMCA subpoena without the authorization of the copyright owner.

      We are unaware of any prosecutions for violating this provision of the DMCA at this time.

    6. Re:we hereby state... by schon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The rights they claim are being infringed are owned by the people they represent.

      Yes, and they claim that the material in question belongs to those people.

      They are NOT claiming that the rights of the person they are contacting are being infringed.

      Because the person whom they are contacting is, in fact the owner of the rights, and they say that the person they are contacting is infringing those rights, then they are *by definition* lying.

      Just because they are incorrect

      Being "incorrect" has nothing to do with it.

      They saw something they thought belonged to someone else, and instead of investigating to see if it *really was* what they thought it was, they sent a takedown notice. In this notice, they stated under penalty of perjury *THAT THEY REPRESENTED THE OWNER* - which they didn't.

      They made two mistakes. First, they didn't check that the file was what they thought. Second, they made an assertion that they were representing the legitimate owner. (Note, they *DID NOT* say "we think these files belong to Fox" - if they had, they would be off the hook.)

      They lied, get over it.

    7. Re:we hereby state... by Alsee · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, they did not commit perjury.

      There is an intentional bug in the DMCA. Otherwise known as an intentional feature. The DMCA was literally written by lawyers employed by the publishing industry. They intentionally drafted it such that they could fire off such notices with total impunity. It was a mistake to assume there was anything fair, balanced, or reasonable about the DMCA. It is purely a tool/weapon placed in the hands of copyright holders.

      The perjury clause only applies to to the rights aledgedly infringed, not to the claim that there is genuine infringment or that there is any connection at all between the target of the notice and the asserted copyrights.

      They do in fact represent the owners of the copyrights that they alledge are being infringed, thus no perjury.

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    8. Re:we hereby state... by crucini · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I love the fact that this comment is at zero, while those ignorantly claiming the opposite are modded up to "+5 insightful". Attention slashdotters: pandering to your prejudices is not insightful, especially when it's incorrect.

      When you amplify the voices that tell you what you want to hear, you end up in a deceptive coccoon of illusions. You are like toddlers wandering into the path of a freight train, immersed in your play and fantasy.

  13. Where did the Season 1-7 come from? by erick99 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Okay, I can *almost* understand the xfiles part, though why they don't check themselves before sending these letters out is beyond me. But the part about the season?:

    Infringement Detail: Infringing Work: X-FILES, THE Season 1-7

    There is nothing on their website that I could see that discusses an "xfile" as anything other than some organization software and certainly not any "seasons." These folks are very arrogant in their assumptions that the word "xfile" will always mean the tv show of the same name.

    Cheers,

    Erick

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  14. Doom3 is a dupe! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    doom3.zip is a 114kb freeware DOS game from 1988 I knew Doom3 was a dupe!

  15. OT by DugzDC · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If i record covers (I play bass, my friends play guitar and sing), and then post them on my website, am I breaking the law?
    OK, I'm in the UK. What about now?
    I think I know the answers - but it's a cheap way to get some insight. And a good way to start a discussion. And hopefully a fight. (It's Friday night here, but I'm indoors cos I feel like shit.)

    1. Re:OT by arkanes · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think you're a little confused. In the natural state, there's no such thing as IP or copyright. There's no protection whatsoever. The only way you can keep someone from using your work is not to give to them. This leads to people not being willing to distribute works at all, or to do so only under very limited circumstances. However, society has a lot to gain from the dissemination of art - contrary to the increasingly popular capitalist viewpoint, people are about more than simply subsisting while producing capital. Therefore, in the interest of serving the public interest (not the public _need_ - a healthy society and a healthy person is based on a lot more than food, air, and water), we have IP law with provides you with certain protections _in return_ for publishing your work where other people can see it. The important part of copyright is not the protection it grants, it's the reason for those protections. There's no such thing as "artists rights". If someone wants his works to be copyrighted for eternity, he can fuck the hell off. He doesn't need to be part of our society. He's getting a certain amount of consideration from society in return for his being willing to publish his works and allow others to build off of them. The gimme gimme grabby attitude of the big copyright holders is sickening and downright immoral. It's given us total crap like "subconcious infringment".

  16. Let us hope... by Zorilla · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...that no upcoming movie becomes named "stdio.h" or we're all screwed.

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    It would be cool if it didn't suck.
    1. Re:Let us hope... by ajlitt · · Score: 4, Funny

      Probably not, but they're in for a surprise when they try to find 'copies' of The Core.

    2. Re:Let us hope... by mopslik · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...that no upcoming movie becomes named "stdio.h" or we're all screwed.

      I think SCO's already got that one covered.

  17. Brilliant! by ajlitt · · Score: 3, Funny

    I suggest we all hide random, public domain crap files in hidden or obfuscated links on all of our web pages. That way we can get back at the ??AA and ESA for spoofing files on P2P networks.

  18. Re:I have seen this before by JoeBar · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, that "master plan" they found was merely an upskirt shot named WMD.jpg

  19. Are we ready for a 'loser pays' system yet? by jlowery · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Although there are disadvantages to a 'loser pays' system, it has the one big advantage of reducing frivolous lawsuits.

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  20. But they said "Own it now!" by Datagod · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How come all the posters at the movie store say "Own it now on DVD?" If I own it, I can do what I want with it. I guess the posters should say "Own the licence to view the material in the privacy of your own home without making any sort of archival copy...on DVD!"

  21. DMCA Honeypot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This almost makes me want to start a DMCA honeypot. I could put a whole bunch of small meaningless non infringing files with names chosen to attract what appears to be a spider run by the MPAA.

    Then I could see just how many automated C&D letters I could generate!

    That would be fun. If only I had the time to deal with deluge of C&D letters.

  22. Good Faith? by joranbelar · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Quoth the beast (emph. mine):
    On behalf of the respective owners of the exclusive rights to the copyright ed material at issue in this notice, we hereby state, pursuant to the Digit al Millennium Copyright Act, Title 17 United States Code Section 512, that the information in this notification is accurate and that we have a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owners, their respective agents, or the law.

    Anyone know how loosely interpretable the term "good faith belief" is? It seems like it would be trivial to prove (say, in court) that they obviously do NOT have any good faith belief, and that this is simply the result of some mindless spidering program. In a perfect world, you'd be able to force them into spending a little more money policing themselves, and every little bit counts, right?

    1. Re:Good Faith? by CyberKnet · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There are two ways to get something done about bad (american) laws:

      1) Get congresspeople and senators to add another act to either counter or ammend the law in question.

      2) Get the supreme court to repeal them (or sections thereof)

      The problem is that 1 is almost impossible with the current state of (legal) corruption in congress/the senate.

      The problem with 2 is that in order for it to even get to the Supreme Court, somebody needs to convert it into a constitutional issue. Even then, it takes a terribly huge amount of money to hire attorneys of the caliber required to convince the panel of judges that the law in question really is unconstitutional.

      With regards to the DMCA, you're not in any worse situation than any other law, but you're not in a good situation either... Some of the brightest legal minds in the country have tried to make the DMCA a constitutional issue and get the Supreme court to repeal it or sections of it. It hasn't worked yet... and there is not a lot of hope that it will in the future either.

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  23. Under Penalty of Perjery ... by Physics+Dude · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "... we hereby state, pursuant to the Digit al Millennium Copyright Act, Title 17 United States Code Section 512, that the information in this notification is accurate and that we have a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owners, their respective agents, or the law.

    Also pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we hereby state, under penalty of perjury, that we are authorized to act on behalf of the owners of the exclusive rights being infringed as set forth in this notification"

    Any casual look at the content of this 113kb file is enough to determine without a doubt that these are NOT infringing files. There should be a law against this type of harassment without so much as a glance at the facts.

  24. They should send a reply like this... by optimus2861 · · Score: 5, Funny
    The operators of this BitTorrent tracker site got hit with a DMCA C&D from Dreamworks over alleged hosting of a copy of "Shrek 2". One little problem: the site's in Sweden, where the DMCA doesn't apply. (Obviously).

    The reply letter included these gems:

    As you may or may not be aware, Sweden is not a state in the United States of America. Sweden is a country in northern Europe. Unless you figured it out by now, US law does not apply here. (...)

    It is the opinion of us and our lawyers that you are fucking morons, and that you should please go sodomize yourself with retractable batons.

    1. Re:They should send a reply like this... by gl4ss · · Score: 3, Informative

      *he Berne Convention means that US copyright does apply in other countries*

      read again, the letter threatens with DMCA, and was sent as if sweden was just an another state in usa.

      the site itself is just a bittorrent tracker / informer, and they're not hosting any infringing files themselfs.

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    2. Re:They should send a reply like this... by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Reminds me of the ADV vs mirkx case. (ADV = big anime licenser in the US. mirkx = anime torrent site).

      ADV's letter:
      June 22, 2004

      RE: http://mirkx.com

      To Whom It May Concern:

      This office represents A.D. Vision, Inc. (ADV) and its affiliated companies that own and/or are exclusively licensed to use the following protected work (the "Protected Work"):

      Azumanga Daioh
      DN Angel
      Getter Robo Armageddon
      Kaleido Star
      Kimagure Orange Road
      King of Bandit Jing
      Pretear
      Puni Puni Poemy
      RahXephon
      Saint Seiya

      Through our Internet monitoring program, we recently discovered unauthorized use of our Protected Work in connection with your website (mirkx.com) (the "Site"). Specifically, the Protected Work is being offered for Internet download, copying and distribution through a Bit Torrent server, and potentially through a File Transfer Protocol server.

      Our intellectual property rights are our most valuable assets. In order to promote a cooperative and beneficial relationship with fans, ADV prefers to send out written requests such as this first, rather than institute litigation or request that your ISP disable your Site. Notwithstanding the foregoing, unauthorized copying and distribution of ADV's protected works (including images) constitutes an infringement of one or more of ADV's rights under the copyright laws of the United States, Canada and other jurisdictions throughout the world. Applicable law provides for substantial penalties for such infringement, including injunctive relief, attorney's fees, and damages. ADV has instituted litigation in the past, and in every such litigation, ADV prevailed. If necessary, ADV will not hesitate to take such action again to insure that its rights are fully protected.

      Therefore, without limiting any right, remedy or defense available to us, ADV MUST ASK THAT YOU IMMEDIATELY:
      1) Delete and cease all further use of the Protected Work, and any other unauthorized ADV works, from the Site.
      2) Remove and delete all copies of the Protected Work, and any other unauthorized ADV titles, from any other distribution channel owned, operated or otherwise controlled or accessible by you or those to whom you grant access including other web sites, FTP servers, web-based storage services, peer-to-peer systems and the like (each of the foregoing being a "Channel").
      3) Remove and delete all references, pointers and hypertext links pertaining to infringing copies of the Protected Work from all such Channels.

      If you are unsure of whether any other titles related with your Site are ADV Protected Works, or you would like to be more pro-active in your awareness of our licensed titles for future reference, please check with the official ADV site www.advfilms.com or our customer service department.
      We also ask that you please advise us in writing within five (5) days from the date of this notice as to whether you will comply with our request so that we can determine whether any additional action will be required beyond this point. I trust this will receive your prompt attention, and if there is anything I can help you with in future, please let me know.

      Sincerely,

      Enforcement Team
      Anti-Piracy Division
      A.D. Vision, Inc.

      And the reply:

      Public reply from mirKx.com: (06.28.2004)
      MirKx.com is not under North American's laws. It is unfortunate that this Site is available in North America, since it has only been made for Comoro Islands' inhabitants, where mirKx.com is acting from. Moreover, the referenced international copyright laws don't apply, since the Comoro Islands:
      - didn't sign the International Berne Convention of 1886
      - is not a state member of the WIPO.

      MirKx.com is acting as an AUTOMATIC index of links, and the Protected Work you make reference to are NOT hosted on this server. If y

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  25. Re:Lies? by ralphart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I usually operate on the "Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity" principle, but here I'm thinking "Malice AND Stupidity"

  26. All this talk about the DMCA... by mrgreen4242 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    made me think of something... IANAL, so someone help me out here, but...

    Could I take a VIDEO TAPE (no deCSS, hence no violation of the DCMA) of a movie I own, encode it into , then encrypt it with some sort of trivial method and post it to a website with filename NAME_OF_MOVIE.xxx. Then wait to get a C&D from the MPAA.

    At that point could I demand how they are CERTAIN it is indeed a copy of their IP. If they actually decrypted the file and checked it wouldn't they be in violation of the DCMA? If they didn't wouldn't their claim be baseless, and hence perjurous (sp?) under the DCMA?

    Just a thought I had during my last 5 minutes of work...

    Rob

    1. Re:All this talk about the DMCA... by danila · · Score: 4, Informative

      The "penalty of perjury" bit only applies to the belief that they represent the copyright holder. It's a common misconception (propagated by the DMCA creators) to think they need to be sure before sending threats.

      I can send a DMCA to any ISP and claim that
      a) I think a particular file contains copyrighted work written (shot/drawn) by my sister
      b) under penalty of perjury I promise that I represent my sister

      The only lie I can be made responsible for in the court is that I don't represent my sister (if I don't). I can always say I was mistaken about that photo/text and get away with it.

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  27. Well, I think it's actually pretty funny. by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
    Is ANYONE that's gotten one of these ever going to call them on this bullshit and have them sent to jail for perjury?

    I'm actually pretty jealous they get these kinds of things. I should put up a page on my site with some old junk files, like resumees or code from old projects tar'd and gz'd and see if I can attract one of these fine letters. I feel it's important to be the first one on my block to receive and frame one of these masterpieces, before all you other weasels realize what fun this could be and set up your own web pages with likenamed and structured directories and files.

    Suppose after they've spun tens of thousands of these things they might realize they're on the wrong track with automating such a lame process?

    /pub/downloads/iron/giant.tar.gz
    /pub/downloads/lotr.tar.gz
    /pub/downloads/space/balls.tar.gz
    /pub/downloads/fahrenheit/911.tar.gz

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    1. Re:Well, I think it's actually pretty funny. by gregmac · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Suppose after they've spun tens of thousands of these things they might realize they're on the wrong track with automating such a lame process?

      That would be an interesting protest. If a whole crapload of people were to setup file structures like that on ie, free hosting providers, isp webspace accounts, whatever, it would act as kind of a DDoS attack against their process, with the two pronged effect of getting the ISPs completely irritated at having to deal with hundreds or thousands of C&D's that are all groundless - which would hopefully lead to the ISPs either ignoring them, or lobbying for some kind of law that restricts their behaviour

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  28. Is it really automated?? by dcigary · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We had one of these letters once delivered to Postmaster and Webmaster accounts for the company I work for. After a half hour of scurrying around trying to find the offending files on the system and failing, we double-checked the IP address that they said was the server with the offending files, and sure enough, they had made a typo between the time their script found the files, and they did a lookup on the ip address. The offending subnet, completely not owned by our company, was transposed a few digits.

    So, we replied back to them, told them of their idiocy, and got a somewhat reasonable apology back - but nothing like what it SHOULD have been based on the language and severe tone of their warning.

    This questions what really is automated and what has at least some human intervention. Of course, they should have realized that the entire X-Files series doesn't fit in a 113k file.

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  29. Profit by Eudial · · Score: 3, Funny
    1.
    $apt-get install proftpd
    $cat > /home/ftp/welcome.msg << EOF
    This is a private server, you do /not/ have
    permission to access the information stored
    on this server. Please disconnect immediately
    or face legal countermeasures.
    EOF
    $ mkdir /home/ftp/warez
    $ touch /home/ftp/warez/LOTR.{1,2,3}.divx.avi
    $ touch /home/ftp/warez/Star\ wars\ episode\ III.avi
    2. ???
    3. Sue MPAA for unlawfully accessing your FTP server. (profit)
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    GAAH! MY PRINTER IS ON FIRE!!! PUT IT OUT! PUT IT OUT!
  30. RIAA Tarpit of Confusion: Source available by salimfadhley · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://madonna.nick.music.stodge.org/ This is a PHP based tarpit of confusion designed to annoy the ??IA enough to stop spidering your server. You need to be able to run apache virtual hosts, but do not need any database (it all runs of config files). You can read all about this tarpit on my wiki. Patches and improvements are welcomed.

  31. You mean the RIAA Pit of Confusion? by salimfadhley · · Score: 4, Informative

    It exists!

    http://wiki.stodge.org/index.php?page=RIAA+Pit+o f+ Confusion

    You can see an example here:

    http://usher.nico.music.stodge.org/

  32. Actually I think it COULD be seen as purjury by WebCowboy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The letter linked in the article asserts that the file in question is all or part of the "X Files" television show belonging to an organisation represented by the MPAA. Their assertion is NOT TRUE. The file in question is the source to a X Windows file manager that belongs to Mikko Kiviniemi.

    The MPAA also states in their letter (in the excerpt shown in the grandparent to this post) that they are authorised to act on behalf of the owner of the exclusive rights to the material in question. The material in question really belongs to Mr. Kiviniemi, and I really doubt he authorised the MPAA on his behalf, so that assertion is also false.

    I think that if they can't be charged with purjury then at the very least some or all of the recipients of these letters should pursue a court order to forbid the MPAA from sending legally threatening letters with blatantly flase information to innocent people. In any case, the MPAA should be banned from using a computerised system to scan file repositories and automatically issue such threats. The MPAA should be required to MANUALLY EXAMINE EVERY FILE they discover by automated means before making such bold assertions to minimise false accusations.

    1. Re:Actually I think it COULD be seen as purjury by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting
      The MPAA should be required to MANUALLY EXAMINE EVERY FILE they discover by automated means before making such bold assertions to minimise false accusations.

      Whoever signs these notices has to also include the following under the DMCA:

      A statement that the complaining party has a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law.
      Automated systems do not have 'good faith beliefs', and the person/entity signing is opening themselves up to a lawsuit/countersuit if they rely solely on automated systems.
    2. Re:Actually I think it COULD be seen as purjury by Facekhan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think those who send these automated notices should be liable for legal fees and any other costs incurred by the recipient if they prove to be baseless or were sent because a human being did not check the content of the file in question.

  33. Re:Libel by rfc1394 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    There's been some mention in the discussion of making phony files with infringing-sounding names (perhaps oops_i_did_it_again.mp3). This could at some point generate a letter from the RIAA to your ISP in which they accuse you of infringing their copyright.

    IANAL, but that sounds an awful lot like libel to me - lying about me to a third party, trying to besmirch my reputation, trying to instigate problems for me. Would that work as an offensive tactic against the RIAA?

    I would say yes. IANAL either, but I think it would be better to pick a name which has been used more than once, like "Tonights_The_Night.MP3" (Kool & The Gang, Rod Stewart) different songs; "9_to_5.MP3" (Sheena Easton, Dolly Parton) different songs; or "Give_Peace_a_Chance.MP3 (The Beatles, Joe Cocker) different songs. Now if it's a spoken commentary about the other song (that doesn't use any of it) then it might be okay.

    Then when a takedown notice comes along from one of these organizations, and the MP3 is played in a court case showing it isn't one of their songs, it becomes a bad faith takedown notice under 17 USC 512(f) for which the party demanding takedown is liable for damages due to any injury caused by the takedown as well as costs and attorney's fees. If it can be shown that all that would have been necessary to show it wasn't infringing was to examine the file and see (say by file size, or by playing it) then it is obvious bad faith and actionable.

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