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The Last Starfighter--The Musical!

nomadic writes "Yes, seriously. Some people have decided to remake everyone's favorite obscure 1980's Star Wars ripoff into musical form. Definitely sounds like a Troy McClure role..."

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  1. Ripoff? by g00bd0g · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I liked that movie!

    1. Re:Ripoff? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      you meant to say:

      I liked that movie you insensitive clod!

    2. Re:Ripoff? by orthogonal · · Score: 5, Funny
      I liked that movie!

      Me too.

      It was a decent movie, but what really brings back the memories is that...

      ...I got my first kiss ever after watching a replay of it...

      ...at a science fiction convention...

      ...while dressed as a "medieval" priest...

      ...from a girl I'd met the day before by going up to her and "blessing" her.

      Yes, I am an unrepentant geek.

      That was, what, some nineteen years ago.
      And as an unrepentant geek, I hope one day to get my second kiss. ;)


      In all seriousness though, Sandi Lynn E., here's to you, wherever you are after all these years.

    3. Re:Ripoff? by FurryFeet · · Score: 2, Funny

      Now you've done it.
      Coming into Slashdot to brag about how big of a geek you are... geez, it's like walking into a biker's bar screaming about how you're the toughest guy around.
      I expect the barrage of geeky, each-more-pathetic-than-the-previous stories to start about... now.
      Let the fun begin.

    4. Re:Ripoff? by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bah that's nothin', back when I was a young geek we didn't have "kisses", we had a wet toilet plunger and we LIKD IT! We had to...

      Oh never mind, I don't think anyone wants to know more about unrepentant geeks.

  2. Troy! by mfh · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hi, I'm Troy McClure. You may remember me from such other nature films as "Earwigs, Ew." and "Man Vs Nature... The Road To Victory".

    Hi, I'm Troy McClure. You may remember me from such other medical films as "Mommy, What's On That Man's Face?" and "Alice Doesn't Live Anymore".

    Hi, I'm Troy McClure. You might remember me from such self-help videos as "Smoke Yourself Thin", and "Get Confident, Stupid.".

    Welcome to the Knowledgeum, I'm Troy McClure. You may remember me from such automated information kiosks as "Welcome to Springfield Airport" and "Where's Nordstrom?" While you're enjoying our Hall of Wonders, your car unfortunately will be subject to repeated break-ins and... [Fades]

    Hi, I'm Troy McClure. You may remember me from such educational films as "Two Minus Three Equals Negative Fun" and "Firecrackers: The Silent Killer".

    I'm actor Troy McClure. You might remember me from such TV series as "Buck Henderson, Union Buster" and "Troy and Company's Summertime Smile Factory". Today I'm here to tell you about "Spiffy.", the 21st century stain remover. Let's meet the inventor, Dr. Nick Riviera.


    etc...

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    1. Re:Troy! by Rallion · · Score: 4, Insightful

      R.I.P. Phil Hartman.

    2. Re:Troy! by Epistax · · Score: 4, Funny

      I was thinking of..

      Chimpanzee 1: Help! The human's about to escape. Troy: Get your paws off me, you dirty ape!
      Chimpanzee 2: (gasp) He can talk!
      Orangutans: He can talk! He can talk! He can talk!
      He can talk! He can talk! He can talk!
      Troy: And I can siiiiiiiiiiing!

      Chimp Nurse: Oooh! Help me, Dr. Zaius! Orangutans: Dr. Zaius! Dr. Zaius!
      Dr. Zaius! Dr. Zaius!
      Dr. Zaius! Dr. Zaius!
      O, Dr. Zaius!
      Orangutan 1: Dr. Zaius! Dr. Zaius!
      Troy: What's wrong with me?
      Dr. Zaius: I think you're crazy.
      Troy: I want a second opinion.
      Dr. Zaius: You're also lazy.

      Orangutans: Dr. Zaius! Dr. Zaius!
      Dr. Zaius! Dr. Zaius!
      Dr. Zaius! Dr. Zaius!
      O, Dr. Zaius!
      Orangutan 1: Dr. Zaius! Dr. Zaius!

      Troy: Can I play the piano any more?
      Dr. Zaius: Of course you can!
      Troy: Well I couldn't before.
      (plays piano)

      Orangutans: Dr. Zaius! Dr. Zaius!
      Dr. Zaius! Dr. Zaius!
      Dr. Zaius! Dr. Zaius!


      Troy: I hate every ape I see,
      From chimpan-A to chimpanzee,
      No, you'll never make a monkey out of me!

      (Statue of Liberty rises)

      O my God! I was wrong!
      It was Earth, all along!
      You've finally made a monkey,
      Apes: Yes we've finally made a monkey,
      Troy: Yes you've
      & Apes: finally made a monkey out of me!

      Troy: I love you, Dr. Zaius

    3. Re:Troy! by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ooh, I love legitimate theater!

  3. Like Alex Rogan's mobile home... by thewiz · · Score: 3, Funny

    This play won't go anywhere either.

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    1. Re:Like Alex Rogan's mobile home... by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 3, Funny

      Mags. And his little brother was named Louis. And the old guy was named Otis. And his Saturday was ruined because Granny's electric went out again. He had to stay and fix it instead of going to Toshi Station to pick up some power converters. Or something.

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  4. I think I'll pass, or... by Weaselmancer · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...just have my beta unit go watch it, and tell me about it later.

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    rediculous.
  5. Phil Hartman by xombo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Let Phil Hartman live in peace, Jesus Christ. We can only ressurect him from the dead every so-often for obscure roles!!! He's still recovering from News Radio.

  6. On HBO This month! by Lord+Kano · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A truely classic movie.

    Even by today's standards the CGI isn't too bad.

    LK

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    1. Re:On HBO This month! by xstonedogx · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Shame on you. Ice Pirates is vastly superior ripoff of Star Wars in every aspect than The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones could ever hope to be!

  7. More Proof... by JenovaSynthesis · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...that there is no God.

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    1. Re:More Proof... by irokitt · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, the Babel Fish solved that one quite nicely.

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  8. The Stellar Acting Career of Troy McClure by F13 · · Score: 2, Informative
    see here

    or here

    or google

    Oh and I need more characters per line

  9. Hmmm... by capz+loc · · Score: 2, Funny

    I smell a Tony...

    1. Re:Hmmm... by jalefkowit · · Score: 2, Funny

      ... Danza...

  10. ...Wow... by Pantero+Blanco · · Score: 4, Funny

    I thought the Simpsons episode that had the Musical Planet of the Apes was just hyperbolic satire.

    I guess I was wrong...

  11. Star Wars ripoff? by plasticquart · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yes, both movies are Scifi (space, aliens, etc)... but where exactly does The Last Starfight qualify as a ripoff of Star Wars?

    1. Re:Star Wars ripoff? by kundor · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Young nobody character suddenly injected into interstellar war, is only hope of good guys, single-handedly ends unstoppable bad guy offensive with mystical powers. Space fantasy that speaks to adolescent wish fulfillment (I don't belong here.)

      And a great movie.

    2. Re:Star Wars ripoff? by MeAtHereDotCom · · Score: 2, Funny

      Aka, the Bible. Or any other sci-fi.

    3. Re:Star Wars ripoff? by bckrispi · · Score: 2, Informative
      There was also a scene (late in the film when the characters are already established), when Xur reveals that the leader of the Star League is his father. This point was never elaborated upon, so I'm assuming they were setting up for a sequel that never happened. Also, you have the story of a hick farmboy (in this case, white trailer trash) who after being told he can't go to the academy (gets a rejection letter from the college he applied to) meets an eccentric old man (Centauri) that he takes as his mentor. The two leave his going-nowhere life behind to dive face first into an intergalactic conflict.

      Greetings, Starfighter. You have been recruited by the Star League to defend the frontier against Xur and the Ko-Dan armada!

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    4. Re:Star Wars ripoff? by schemanista · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The plot has hardly been Lucas's problem -- it's the dialogue, script, & directing. Plot-wise, he's fine. :)

      No, his plots suck pretty badly too.

      A couple of examples: Obi Wan stashes Luke on the same planet where Anakin grew up. Oh yeah, DarthAnakin would never think to look there... And Leia is supposed to be Plan B should Luke fail but Darth can't sense that the Force is strong in her, even when he's personally overseeing her torture?

      Remember, Lucas invented the Chewbacca defense.

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    5. Re:Star Wars ripoff? by Dirtside · · Score: 2, Informative
      Ah, you've never read Hero With a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell.
      And I can recommend against ever reading it. Campbell was insightful, but reading his writing style is like trying to strain molasses through a sieve. I can instead recommend The Writer's Journey by Christopher Vogler, which basically distills HWATF into its essence, and is a thousand times more readable.
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    6. Re:Star Wars ripoff? by PMuse · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It's no star wars ripoff. WTF is the OP talking about?

      Ditto that. Some big differences:

      The villian. A ravaging horde kept at bay by a barrier wall (the frontier) is not the same as your own imperial government stomping out the last of the political dissenters.

      The hero. The Starfighter is a kid living on obscure planet who is deliberately recruited against his will to save life as he knows it. Luke is a kid living on an obscure planet who stumbles into a bit part in an adventure; only later does he learn that he and his family are the central players.

      Once you start believing that every story that is the least bit similar is a ripoff, THEY've won.

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      Computer: This is a copyright infringement suit, Level 3 alert.
      Screenwriter 1: Somebody set up us the cease and desist letter.
      Screenwriter 1: We get subpoena!
      Director: (stands up, in shock) What!
      Evil Lawyer: "ALL YOUR PLOT ELEMENTS ARE BELONG TO US" ... "YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO PUBLISH." ... "MAKE YOUR ROYALTY PAYMENT. HA HA HA!!"
      Director: (staring in horror) What you say!!
      Screenwriter 2: DIRECTOR!
      Director: Take every "Zig" offshore.
      Director: For great justice!

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    7. Re:Star Wars ripoff? by schemanista · · Score: 2, Insightful

      IT'S DARTHANAKIN'S FAMILY TOO! You don't think during at least one of his heavy-breathing sessions, he didn't bonk himself on the helmet and say "Wait a minute: Owen lives on Tatooine... And if that was the planet to which Leia was trying to flee with the stolen Death Star plans...? He knew Leia was on the Alderaanian freighter and that she had the DS plans with her. He finds out she's headed for Tatooine--which just happens to be the planet where the man who married his mother lives. He can sense the Force in Luke after the wuffleball affair but he can't detect the presense of his former mentor (you know--the man who tried to kill him during an upcoming lava-surfing session) on a planet with an ostensibly low popluation density: a presence he manages to detect when Kenobi infiltrates the Death Star which is large enough to be mistaken for a moon and probably has a crew numbering in the tens of thousands?

      Guy, seriously, have you actually thought about Star Wars? The entire opus is one gigantic Chewbacca defence. Lucas doesn't ask you to suspend your disbelief: he demands that you take it out back and put two in the brain.

      If my spouse ever absconded with my daughter, the last place she'd hide is with one of her relatives because those are the first possibilities I'd check. Apparently, elementary logic has no place in "Jedi business".

      "If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests."

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  12. Obscure? by NMerriam · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I thought the Last Starfighter was a pretty groundbreaking film -- IIRC, it was the first film to have totally computer-generated space sequences.

    I can't help but think it would make a pretty kickass space sim, now that we have the GPU power to render in real-time even higher quality than they had originally. The one arcade game I remember didn't compare well to the classic Star Wars 3D polygon arcade game in terms of sheer fun (damn that game was fun).

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    1. Re:Obscure? by BTWR · · Score: 5, Informative
      IIRC, it was the first film to have totally computer-generated space sequences

      Star Trek II was the first CGI scene (the genesis project filmette). Young Sherlock Holmes was the first to have cgi in a live action shot (the stained glass window knight)

  13. Star Wars ripoff? by mveloso · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's no star wars ripoff. WTF is the OP talking about? It had a decent plotline and was fun to watch, which is a lot more than you can say about star wars 1,2, and 6, and probably 3.

    It has acting and writing at a level that George Lucas can only dream about.

    Yeah, it's a genre film, but so was battlestar galactica.

  14. On learning of the musical... by PDHoss · · Score: 5, Funny


    Storm theatre serious artist #1: Damage report!

    Storm theatre serious artist #2: Our credibility is shot! Our theatre is a laughing stock! What do we do now?

    [dramatic pause]

    Storm theatre serious artist #1: We die.

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  15. what about... by zrobotics · · Score: 2, Funny

    spaceballs, the musical!

    i can see it now, opening night, the helmets glistening under the lights. ahhh...

    i predict it will come out the same year as history of the world, part II

  16. "Definitely sounds like a Troy Mclure role" by Nathdot · · Score: 3, Funny

    Who knows; maybe it sounds like a Wil Wheaton role :)

    1. Re:"Definitely sounds like a Troy Mclure role" by 10Ghz · · Score: 4, Funny
      Although Wil Wheaton's scenes were cut, but his name still appears in the end credits.


      His part was cut?!?!??! I saw his name in the end-credits, and I watch the movie several tiems trying to find him! And now, years later, I find out that his part was in fact cut!

      And all these years I thought I was blind and/or idiot for not finding him! Damn you all! Damn you to hell!
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  17. Oh come on. by multiplexo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This can't be any dumber of an idea than anything that Andrew Lloyd Webber has done. Look at Cats, a musical starring singing and dancing cats, or Starlight Express, a musical which features a bunch of people rollerskating back and forth pretending that they're all singing railroad trains. Cats has run for about four billion weeks on Broadway, proving that no one ever lost money underestimating the taste of the American theatre-going public.

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    1. Re:Oh come on. by kfg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Cats at least is inherently lyrical. People have been setting poetry to music since the invention of poetry; and started dressing in costumes imitating animals and spirits while dancing and singing them not long after that.

      And T.S Elliot's cat poems really are a bit of alright.

      You've got me on Starlight Express though.

      KFG

  18. To Paraphrase The Movie by BRock97 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Me: "Oh no, we can't get tickets! What do we do?"

    ***Eye piece swings over friend's eye***

    My Friend: "We die."

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  19. Last Starfighter Star Wars by humankind · · Score: 4, Funny

    At least they didn't beat the Last Starfighter into a bloody, over-merchandized pulp with ever-increasingly mediocre sequels. As a result, the Last Starfighter is singularly better than all the Star Wars movies combined.

  20. Re:Ripoff by kgbspy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Centauri shoots first.

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  21. First CG movie by lawpoop · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Last Starfighter was the first move with CG special effects. The plot is that an arcade video game is a training simulator for starfighter pilots, and one was accidentally sent to earth. Very geeky ;)

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  22. Re:Ripoff by uberdave · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In the 80's everything that was science fiction was considered to be a Star Wars ripoff.

  23. A musical isn't the worst they could do by humankind · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It doesn't bother me they're making a musical. A musical is more a homage to the original film than it is a ripoff or sequel or anything derivative. Unlike Star Wars, which has been driven into the ground and is now a mere shadow of the greatness it once was.

    If you think about it, taking a sci-fi movie such as TLS to the stage will probably test the cutting edge in theatrical and lighting effects. This would be very challenging. I would love to see this just to see if they're capable of pulling it off convincingly.

    As for TLS being a rip-off of Star Wars, that's BS. Star Wars is as derivative of dozens of other films that came before it. The two movies may have shared some plot similarities, but they both had their cheesy moments.

    However, IMO, the cinematography in many scenes in The Last Starfighter is far better than Star Wars. The trailer park scenes were brilliantly shot. The acting and character development was superlative and nowhere near as pressured as Star Wars.

    I think the two movies are really dramatically different in their approach. Star Wars whisked you off to a far-away place where you vicariously watched someone else save the world. Whereas The Last Starfighter brought the battle to Earth and make the viewer feel like it could really happen to him - it was much more realistic.

    If you haven't seen The Last Starfighter in awhile, rent it and watch it again. It holds up better than the original Star Wars now.

  24. Re:Come on... by 1u3hr · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I'm glad you liked it. But come on. You know it really was a ripoff of Star Wars.

    And how was Star Wars original in any way?

  25. Hey! by fritter · · Score: 3, Funny

    Mostly I'm pissed the submitter pointed out it was a Star Wars ripoff, because I never caught on to that when I was a little kid, and now that he mentions it it's really blatant. :)

    But I still think this is a fun movie to catch on TV. I mean, yeah, it's really cheesy, but does this deserve the Road House treatment? It probably has the best "lizard guy in human mask gives stirring speech to guy from trailer park that's secretly a great space pilot" scene I've seen, although the one in The Wedding Planner comes pretty close.

    Oh, man. Now that I think about it... the second-in-command lizard guy whose eyepiece thing closes after every line he has? The scene with all the Gunstar pilots that's a direct, totally unapologetic ripoff of the Death Star briefing in Star Wars? That half-bald badguy leader that practically breaks a tooth chewing so much scenery? Aaaaugh! You're killing my childhood, Slashdot!

    (As a sidenote, I always thought somebody should make a Last Starfighter videogame today, on the latest 3d hardware, that exactly mimcs the really stylized CGI from the movie. Say what you will, those scenes still look cool.)

    1. Re:Hey! by hai.uchida · · Score: 2, Funny

      But I still think this is a fun movie to catch on TV. I mean, yeah, it's really cheesy, but does this deserve the Road House treatment?

      Certainly not. I guarantee there is no line in The Last Starfighter as disturbing as Swayze's rival delivers before their big showdown... "I used to fuck guys like you in prison!"

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  26. Re:Come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I agree with the other guy. It's not a Star-Wars ripoff.

    I don't know why EVERYTHING with a well-armed
    space hotrod in it has to be considered a Star-Wars ripoff.

    Geezus Christ.. Is STAR WARS all the SF you people know?
    Get a life.. wait.. on second thought, maybe you HAVE a life
    and that's why you don't know anything about SF.

    Ok. GET RID of your life.. Cancel those party plans and
    stay home reading E.E. "Doc" Smith "Lensman" novels. Then
    play some "SpaceWar" and rethink the StarWars ripoff question.

  27. Forget The Last Starfighter: The Musical by Matarick · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Shop smart, shop S-Mart.
    Only if there would be a run on off-Broadway. That would be worth my $40 in bus fare.

  28. Re:Come on... by Moofie · · Score: 3, Informative

    It wasn't a ripoff of Star Wars, any more than Star Wars is a ripoff of every mythic story that came before it. That's silly.

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  29. Evil Dead: The Musical by Griim · · Score: 4, Funny

    I thought I would take this moment to mention a play that was here in Toronto last year called Evil Dead: The Musical.

    I am not one for musicals. But this was godamn funny. With such musical numbers as What The Fuck Was That? and (All Of The Men In My Life Keep Getting Killed By) Candarian Demons, you really can't go wrong.

    I hope to see it again.

    1. Re:Evil Dead: The Musical by Griim · · Score: 2

      Slashcode appears to have stripped my link:

      http://www.evildeadthemusical.com/

  30. Re:I can just imagine snooty theater crowd watchin by StormyWeather · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just because you don't like rap, country, theatre, opera, or galleries doesn't mean the people that do fit into whatever typecast you want them to be in. I personally love to go to the theatre here in town, especially the small ones. Some of the best gut splitting humor is in plays, and it's a great way to support your local economy, and meet interesting people in other walks of life.

    Typecasting people that enjoy certain arts is the same bs as people that typecast me as antisocial because I like technology. I assure you that most folks at plays aren't snooty, and like a raunchy bit of humor as much or more than the next. Most of the folks I've met at plays are pretty open minded, educated, and highly interested in freedom of speech issues.

  31. I watched it 5 times in a month! :-P by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Still, the story differs a lot from Starwars. In starwars, Luke is the descendant of a race of supernatural warriors.

    In Last Starfighter, the guy is simply a good space pilot because he trained (read: videogame addict :-P )

    Some elements were kinda unrealistic, but I still liked the movie. Maybe because it portrays the fantasy of every teenager: You play videogames, and now you have the chance to save the universe.

    (somehow reminds me of typical teen fantasies in anime shows like Love Hina, Tenchi, Chobits etc - is that why these shows are favorites? fulfilling a secret fantasy?)

    1. Re:I watched it 5 times in a month! :-P by FurryFeet · · Score: 2, Funny

      Some elements were kinda unrealistic

      You, sir, are the undisputed lord and master of understatement.
      Or you live in a different world. I can't really tell from here.

    2. Re:I watched it 5 times in a month! :-P by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 4, Insightful
      In many ways, it relates more to The Matrix than Star Wars. No, seriously, think about it.

      Both stories revolve around a young, male geek/nerd.

      In both stories the young man is "trapped" in a going-nowhere existence

      In both stories the young man knows there is something bigger and more important out there waiting for him to discover it

      In both stories an older man approaches him and tells him that he's more than he thinks he is and that he may be the key to saving the world/universe

      Both movies feature (for their time) incredible special effects of a kind never seen before

      The young male geek gets a once-in-a-lifetime chance to not only live out his dreams but to save all of humanity
      I could probably go on, but that seems like enough for now.

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    3. Re:I watched it 5 times in a month! :-P by Comrade64 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What would Joseph Campbell say about the use of myth in these movies? I don't know, but similar to the parent post I would say that they all run a similar theme. SW, Matrix, and the Last Starfighter all show a young man in a coming of age moment trying to figure out the world and realizing, thankfully, that its a bigger place than he thought and that he has an inportant role to play. There is a learning phase, practise/mistake phase. Meet the bad guy phase, and then eventually defeat the bad guy phase. Within all of this you sprinkle in things that bring a human element to the character and let the audience identify with the character. That's what I think. Or maybe this is just a phase.

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  32. Re:Leia's force wasn't strong... by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 2, Informative

    > If she had some Force juice in her blood, it was dormant and
    > undetectable (as per the plan).

    It's exactly that "force juice" in hre blood that is a BIG part of the problem.

    Leia was in Vader's direct custody for quite some time in ANH. With hardly a doubt, she had to undergo a medical examination at some point during her time in custody; if only to determine just how far they could go in extracting the location of the rebel base from her. (After all, it wouldn't do if she turned out to have an allergy to the truth serum the torture droid uses, and dies from a histamine reaction.)

    Even if Leia wasn't an active force user, it *IS* explicitly stated, in ROTJ, that she has the potential. And THAT means she has a high midichlorian count. And THAT shows up on a simple blood test.

    Remember, Vader is taking a PERSONAL interest in this case. And he KNOWS that he has at least one long-lost child out there. (He expressed no surprise when Palpatine informed him that the "son of Skywalker" was out and about.) The guy's not stupid. Where there's one, there could easily be more. And he's always on the lookout for a new force-user to help him usurp the emperor... no reason a girl wouldn't do as well as a boy.

    cya,
    john

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  33. Considering that Star Wars.... by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 2, Informative

    .... was nothing more than a ripoff of Kurosawa's "The Hidden Fortress", Lucas and his fanboys have no business in the world complaining about "The Last Starfighter", or anything else, ripping off Star Wars.

    cya,
    john

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  34. Re:Spoiler alert? by Bullet-Dodger · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wait a minute... Statue of Liberty... THAT WAS OUT PLANET! You maniacs! You blew it up! Damn you! Damn you all to hell!

  35. It's a shame Robert Preston couldn't be here by SnappingTurtle · · Score: 2, Informative
    Robert Preston, who played Centauri in the movie, was a veteran musical actor. He's probably best remembered for playing the lead in The Music Man... for me his was the definitive performance in that role. He was also great in Victor/Victoria (albeit in a non-singing role).

    He woulda been perfect in a musical production of The Last Starfighter. Ah well, hopefully he's watching from somewhere up in the stars.

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  36. its awesome by waspleg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    i've watched it at least 3 times since its been on HBO this month

    death blossom = fucking awesome

    anyone know what kind of hardware they used to render those scenes?

    is there soem reason we can't play 3d arcade games using them now 15 years later with bad ass nvidia and ati cards?

    1. Re:its awesome by grondu · · Score: 2, Informative

      The credits say it was a Cray XMP.

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  37. Re:Come on... by Jason1729 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Star Wars is very much based on Dune.

    • Tattoine is a clone of Arrakis
    • The Moisture Farm the Lars' run is right out of Dune.
    • Luke is a dumb whiny kid at the beginning who grows up to be a leader in the rebellion and overthrows the evil emperor; Paul is a dumb whiny kid at the beginning who grows up to lead the Fremen and overthrow the evil emperor.
    • Luke finds Obi-Wan in the desert and learns the ways of the Jedi from him; Paul finds Stilgar in the desert and learns the ways of the Fremen from him.
    • Paul's Voice; Luke's Jedi Mind tricks. Paul's mental Sight; Luke's Jedi Vision. Paul's weirding ways, Luke's jedi fighting. Crysknife - a knife from a worm's tooth; Light Saber - like a saber-toothed tiger
    • Do you really think the sandworm in RoJ isn't from Dune?
    There is almost nothing in SW that isn't taken right out of Dune.

  38. Hardware used to render The Last Starfighter by isdale · · Score: 4, Informative

    The main computer used for TLS was a Cray XMP... one of the first (double headed) Cray machines outside a govt installation. There was a DEC VAX 782, a double headed VAX, that fed the Cray - there wasnt a really good way to work on the Cray directly. Digital Productions, the animation company,also used a farm of Evans and Southerland PS300s for digitizing/modeling and IMI 500s for motion. A couple RasterTech boxes were also used as frame buffers for test images. A specialized film printer was also used - one originally developed for Tron.
    The same hardware was used on a number of other films from that era (2010, Ice Pirates, Labyrinth, etc) and numerous commercials.

    The IMI 500 was a UNIX box and the VAX ran Interactive's Unix On VMS. The Cray had a small permanent on-site support staff to keep it alive.... along with some BIG AC units.

    DP was bought by Omnibus Computer Graphics in 1986. Shortly afterwards Omnibus bought Robert Able Associates, thus merging 3 of the top 5 computer animation houses of the time.... and promptly went bankrupt. BofA had a 11mil loan on the Cray, and discovered that Cray had one in storage they couldnt unload for $3mil. They found out the landlords had taken the keys and the security company stopped sending guards 'cause of non-payment. This being the neighborhood where the LA Riots were several years later, BofA immeadiately sent a truck and crew to yank out the Cray.... Some of the animators pleaded with the workers to let it run just an hour more so they could complete some pieces...

    Btw, Omnibus was the first commercial company not doing network development to have an Internet connection. Of course back then it wasnt called the Internet.

    its a bit odd to have lots of 20-somethings tell me how much they loved that movie... i still remember creating the short proof-of-concept animation that got DP the job.

  39. Re:Come on... by cybpunks3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And Tolkien's Lord of the Rings is based on Wagner's ring cycle and the Norse myths before it.

    That doesn't change the fact that execution of the idea was more important than the degree of originality. Some of the most original ideas are also the least accessible to mainstream audiences.

    In the case of Star Wars, the execution was very well done indeed, at least for Ep. IV and V. IV is very rough around the edges technically, but in a very endearing homebrew way that has been lost in modern CGI filmmaking.