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New Hitchhiker's Episodes Available Online

Michael Sheldon writes "The BBC is now offering the first of the new Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy radio episodes as either Real or WMP audio streams. Meaning listeners abroad can now hear the new series, which started playing on UK radio last Tuesday."

218 comments

  1. Re:free gmail invites by DenDave · · Score: 1

    gee.. thanks for all the fish..

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  2. RA and WMA? by moonbender · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Shame that they don't offer either MP3 or OGG versions of the show. Wonder why they decided against using them, especially considering that the BBC has some experience with OGG - they used to have some live radio streams running it.

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    1. Re:RA and WMA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And the worst part is, BSPlayer can't play the wma.

    2. Re:RA and WMA? by SpooForBrains · · Score: 5, Funny

      They were working on broadcasting it on the Sub Ether Waveband but they didn't have the necessary rights.

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    3. Re:RA and WMA? by jonwil · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I suspect part of it is not wanting it in a format that can be saved to disk and kept for later (otherwise it would hurt sales when the thing is released on CD or whatever)

    4. Re:RA and WMA? by jhemmila · · Score: 1

      I'd imagine that it's to cut down on piracy. Why buy the boxed set when you have the MP3's, right right?

    5. Re:RA and WMA? by Random+Web+Developer · · Score: 1

      I'm quite interested in your point but can't find anything about it:
      http://www.google.com/search?q=bbc+ogg+Sub+Et her+W aveband

      Would you have any references, i would like to know more about this

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    6. Re:RA and WMA? by Alranor · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So i'm guessing they've never heard of mplayer -dumpstream before then.

      Ah well, never mind eh.

    7. Re:RA and WMA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What makes you think you can't save RA or WMA to disk? How do you think the BBC store them?

    8. Re:RA and WMA? by SpooForBrains · · Score: 2

      Sure, just check your copy of the Guide.

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    9. Re:RA and WMA? by andrewa · · Score: 1

      Ehrm, too late then 'cause I already downloaded the .ra when it came on-line around 11:35 last night...

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    10. Re:RA and WMA? by Malc · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Experience with OGG? They haven't touched it for nearly two years!

      Personally I'm disappointed they didn't also offer it in FLAC, PCM, DTS, SDDS and Dolby Digital! Give it a rest, stop whining, and be happy that they made it available in the first place. It seems people get moderated up just for whinging about OGG. And no, I'm not new here ;)

    11. Re:RA and WMA? by mlush · · Score: 2, Insightful
      So i'm guessing they've never heard of mplayer -dumpstream before then.

      The Beeb know about mplayer -dumpstream, however 95%+ of the userbase have not. From the beeb's POV a partial solution is better than none at all

    12. Re:RA and WMA? by SpinyManiac · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, I've got it in MP3.

      1 Plug laptop into digital TV STB
      2 Set STB to Radio 4
      3 Record
      4 Feed WAV into RazorLAME
      5 Enjoy VBR goodness

      There's an analog stage in the recording, and finding the cables to go from SCART to 3.5mm jack was a bit of a challenge.

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    13. Re: RA and WMA? by ayden · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Wonder why they decided against using them, especially considering that the BBC has some experience with OGG - they used to have some live radio streams running it.

      Because the BBC uses Real for the vast, overwhelming majority of their streams.

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    14. Re:RA and WMA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We all know it's cos Douglas Adams was a through and through Windows shill...

      [j/k btw]

    15. Re:RA and WMA? by Billy69 · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I prefer my method:
      1) Buy A Bug
      2) Insert SD Card
      3) Press record button
      4) Enjoy 128Kb MP2 recording with no analogue stage
      5) Profit!!!

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    16. Re:RA and WMA? by Random+Web+Developer · · Score: 0, Troll

      Never read it, not very much a fan of fantasy

      I suppose your comment was funny to those that did read it and i just made an ass out of myself :p

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    17. Re:RA and WMA? by SpinyManiac · · Score: 1

      DAB isn't supposed to be available in my area, so I had to improvise.
      Besides, I was told about it about four hours before the broadcast. I supposed I could have tried when it was repeated yesterday, but I thought they'd probably stream it.
      Now, where's that copy of Streambox?

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    18. Re:RA and WMA? by Handpaper · · Score: 1
      We all know it's cos Douglas Adams was a through and through Windows shill...

      Bollocks. Douglas Adams was a Mac addict. Read 'The Salmon of Doubt' for (extensive) confirmation.

    19. Re:RA and WMA? by Billy69 · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately yes, you did.

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    20. Re:RA and WMA? by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 4, Funny
      Sure, just check your copy of the Guide.

      Okay then...

      BEEPcrkcrkcrk-BEEPcrkcrkcrk-KRCKaKRCK-BORP!
      What to do if you find yourself with a computer that's unable to play Realaudio, and you're at your wits' end with no hope of HHGTTG:

      Consider how lucky you are that life has been good to you so far.

      Alternatively, if life hasn't been good to you so far, which, given your current circumstances is more likely:

      Consider how lucky you are that it won't be troubling you much longer.

      Grr. Pile of rubbish.
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    21. Re:RA and WMA? by six809 · · Score: 1, Funny

      And no, I'm not new here ;)

      by Malc (1751)

      Evidently :)
    22. Re:RA and WMA? by DoctorRad · · Score: 1
      4) Enjoy 128Kb MP2 recording with no analogue stage

      'Enjoy' and '128Kb [sic] MP2 recording' do not go hand in hand, IME, unless the BBC have started using MP2 encoders optimised for lower bitrates.

      My preferred solution is to record from the digital audio output of my Nokia Freeview box, although I did get some very minor interference about 11 minutes in :-(

      Matt...

    23. Re:RA and WMA? by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 1

      £150 for a radio??? They're taking the p*ss. Call me back when it's £15.

      I just recorded it off the satellite broadcast, but could have ripped it off DTT just as easily (using the PC would have meant no loss in quality).

    24. Re:RA and WMA? by Billy69 · · Score: 1

      It seems like a pretty excellent copy IMO, and I'm sure that the Radio 4 encoder is tweaked to be better at spoken word than music.

      I aslo (not that anybody cares I suppose) recorded it using my Sky+ box and outputted it to my iRiver iHP-140 using a toslink cable. So technically that should be a superior 192Kb MP2 stream, but as it is outputted as a ram PCM stream, I can't re-encode it without significant loss of quality. Unless I just write it to audio CD I suppose.

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    25. Re:RA and WMA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WOW, apparently it is a redundant action to use a cliche to make a valid point, and pass on information of a possibly valuable nature to other /.ers!

    26. Re:RA and WMA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      outputted it

      Did what to it?

    27. Re:RA and WMA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a fucking awful way to do a recording, all in needless digital > analogue > digital > mp3 goodness you mean.

      If anyone's interested there is a direct 192k mp2 grab transcoded to mp3 all in the digital domain posted in alt.binaries.sounds.radio.bbc

      DAB is awful, 128k stereo at best and often mono.

    28. Re:RA and WMA? by RMH101 · · Score: 1

      much kudos to the accurate rendering of The Guide's boot up noises in ASCII!

    29. Re: RA and WMA? by ayden · · Score: 1

      Great! Now if we only had DAB in the US .... I really wish we did.

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    30. Re:RA and WMA? by hedley · · Score: 2, Informative

      Use Streambox (google it). Comes with a transcoder.
      Drag drop ra onto it and you can get mp3 out.

      Streambox can also pull down any ra content as long as you drill down to the rtsp: tag that the stream uses. Thus I have already saved this weeks HHTG I did not require the Beeb link.

      Enjoy!

      Hedley

    31. Re:RA and WMA? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, moderation is very simple. Somebody agrees with you, +1, Insightful even if it's the same, tired, flawed opinion that's been posted for years. Somebody disagrees with you, -1 Troll even if it's new, perceptive and well argued.

      For example, you got a +5 for pointing out the same, tired argument that some people whine about OGG and get moderated for it. I will get modded -1 Troll, because of my vitriolic .sig.

      You know what? Fuck Slashdot. I'm going to start reading Fark, which is just as retarded but shows me boobies.

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    32. Re:RA and WMA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The BBC had an article a while back, consering the Dr Who stuff. Its a case of "it can't be too easy" not that it must be imposable. Just like "normal tv" which apparently is not "too easy"?!

    33. Re:RA and WMA? by Maggot75 · · Score: 1

      Bold text isn't in ASCII. Hmm. Unless we used that funky bit number 8, that noone uses anyway, to indicate boldness of text?

    34. Re:RA and WMA? by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 1

      "none at all" is exactly how much idea the ape descended parent poster had when he figured it would hurt CD sales. Most HHGTTG fans would give their left nut to own the new shows on CD. ;P

    35. Re:RA and WMA? by ncw · · Score: 1
      I have it in 192kbit/s MP2 format digital all the way! (Which is how it is transmitted in to your digital TV STB)

      This is courtesy of MythTV and Freeview DVB-t. Unfortunately Mythtv doesn't really understand radio stations so you have to record it with some video too. I chose the video of bid-up-tv as its really low bitrate! MythTV is set to record it whenever it comes on too...

      I then demuxed the mpeg stream and extracted the 192k MP2. Its very good quality (equivalent to 128k MP3 I'm sure) and playable in all MP3 players that I've tried.

      I tried lame --r3mix --mp3input to convert it but it only became 6 MB shorter (out of 38 MB) so I didn't think that the additional lossy coding step was worth while.

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    36. Re:RA and WMA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That will be why he put [j/k btw] at the bottom of his mail......

      I mean not RTFA is to be expected, but do try to read the posts you are replying to.

    37. Re:RA and WMA? by Malc · · Score: 1

      Hey, it's /. Our UID's could be in 36 point font but somebody would still come out with the age-old "You're new here" comment!

    38. Re:RA and WMA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      If you want to see boobies, just take your XXXL T-shirt off.

    39. Re:RA and WMA? by pigpogm · · Score: 1

      Nah, you saved yourself - you pointed out that you *would* get modded down for saying it, therefore guaranteeing that you'd get modded *up* just to be contrary.

      But I'll probably get modded down for saying it.

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    40. Re:RA and WMA? by shdragon · · Score: 1

      I agree. They're not charging for it. People around here find anything to complain about.
      ]

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    41. Re:RA and WMA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      don't do it, dasmegafat! fark is fun, and you'll stink it up just like you did slashdot with your incessant whining!

      did i mention you stink? and whine?

      good!

      JOIN THE ANTI-DASMEMBERBYTER GRASSROOTS CAMPAIGN!

    42. Re:RA and WMA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's Sub-Etha Waveband.

    43. Re:RA and WMA? by Colonel+Cholling · · Score: 3, Funny

      not very much a fan of fantasy

      And I, and probably most slashdot readers, am not very much a fan of people who can't distinguish between science fiction and fantasy. (Failure to distinguish between science fiction and real life is, sometimes, forgivable.) I thus offer the following quick guide:

      If a story is set in some vague time period that can't figure out whether it's ancient Rome, the Middle Ages, or the Renaissance, and features wizards and lots of square-chinned guys with poor hygeine and names like Glorn Thundertrousers, it's probably fantasy.

      If a story features spaceships, robots, time travel, lots of made-up technobabble, a high-school knowledge of physics, and lots of people in Spandex jumpsuits who are either green or have multiple heads, and have names that look like the result of a random banging on a keyboard, it's probably sci-fi.

      If a story just has columns of abbreviations and numbers and words like "liquidity" and "divestiture," you're reading the financial reports by mistake.

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    44. Re:RA and WMA? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      Good one! XXXL shirt, man where do you guys come UP with such hilarious shit? Is there a school I don't know about?

      Thanks for writing!

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    45. Re:RA and WMA? by zebs · · Score: 1

      If a story just has columns of abbreviations and numbers and words like "liquidity" and "divestiture," you're reading the financial reports by mistake.

      And they also are often pure fantasy fantasy.

    46. Re:RA and WMA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the immortal words of Jack Chick...

      HAW HAW!!!

    47. Re:RA and WMA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fantasy fantasy.
      ah nuts

    48. Re:RA and WMA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Crikey, surely it's about time you got a PVR that understood DVB properly? I'm sure your life for the next X weeks would become a lot easier...

    49. Re:RA and WMA? by vsprintf · · Score: 1

      JOIN THE ANTI-DASMEMBERBYTER GRASSROOTS CAMPAIGN!

      Typical AC post. Where's the link? The URL? The membership rules? Oh, and it triggers the lameness filter, too.

    50. Re:RA and WMA? by vsprintf · · Score: 1

      Nah, the moderators following the rules will skip over your comment since you're pointing out the obvious. The other moderators will suffer such cognitive dissonance that they won't be able to make a decision and also pass on.

    51. Re:RA and WMA? by holy+zarquon's+singi · · Score: 1

      What, like this? vsound -d -t -f hhg2g_Tertiary_Phase_1.wav realplay rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/comedy/tue1830.ra && lame hhg2g_Tertiary_Phase_1.wav BTW, it is possible to get the show a few days before it is linked on the bbcs page. Check above.

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  3. KCRW has original series by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    FYI, Primary and Secondary Phase's are available from KCRW in Real format:

    http://kcrw.org/show/hg

  4. I missed the first ones by jhemmila · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Where can I hear the first ones? This seems to be somewhere in the middle of the story.

    1. Re:I missed the first ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ask and ye shall receive.

    2. Re:I missed the first ones by andrewa · · Score: 1

      Try here.. http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=121485&thresho ld=0&commentsort=0&tid=133&tid=214&tid=1&mode=thre ad&pid=10223861#10228873

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    3. Re:I missed the first ones by Beowabbit · · Score: 1

      Looks like they only ship to the UK and Europe, though. (I found that out when I went to check out.) Anybody know a source that ships to the US?

    4. Re:I missed the first ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BBC America Shop by chance?

  5. FFS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Look you don't have to wait for the BBC put *PUT THEM ONLINE* to listen from abroad. You can listen to Radio 4 *LIVE* via streaming (HHGTTG is on Tuesdays at 6pm UK time)... this story relates to the BBC's "Listen Again" feature which allows to to catch it if you miss it.

    1. Re:FFS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      6.30 actually.

      I listened to the first one and thought it was weak. [And yes I know the books inside out]. The pacing seemed wrong, there were stupid gratuitious 'stuttering' sound effects and the script seemed to concentrate on irrelevancies for far too long [eg Marvin's dialogue with the mattress].

    2. Re:FFS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yup, I listened to the first episode on Tuesday here in Wisconsin, live.

      But a minor correction: it is actually on Tuesdays at 6:30 PM their time. That is 12:30 PM my time (central), so that is 1:30 PM Eastern, 11:30 AM Mountain, and 10:30 AM Pacific. Every Tuesday for the next five weeks.

      The first new episode was really quite impressive, and brought back a flood of memories from when I'd last read the books 15 or so years ago.

    3. Re:FFS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No *we* don't... or this story would have been more accurate.

    4. Re:FFS! by uohcicds · · Score: 1

      Well, the stuttering kind of got the, "Peter Jones is dead, what the hell do we do now-oh let's use Bill Franklin instead" part sorted. And I liked the Marvin stuff. The only disappointment was that he didn't say "Zootlewurdle,Zootlewurdle,Zootlewurdle..." while screwing himself into the swamp with his artifical leg.

      First episodes are genrally strange anyway as you have to give it time to get all the characters setup and reintroduced. I was a bit disappointed that they didn't have the drinking part with the sofa, but where would it fit?

      Good to see it back!

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    5. Re:FFS! by Matt_UK · · Score: 1

      I thought that it was good, the only problem was that my wife din't like siting in silence for 1/2 an hour just after we got home (time when we normaly chat about the day)

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    6. Re:FFS! by kalidasa · · Score: 1

      Ah. Glad to see they're not on Thursdays. I could never get the hang of Thursdays.

    7. Re:FFS! by meringuoid · · Score: 1

      It's repeated at 11pm on Thursdays, which might be more convenient for Americans...

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  6. So.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    how can I rip this to HD?
    Preferably the WMP stream.

    1. Re:So.. by moonbender · · Score: 3, Informative

      One way that usually works is to set your sound config up to record "What You Hear". Kind of like the analogue gap, except it never becomes analogue and leaves your computer. ;) Of course, that'll only get you uncompressed PCM files and, when re-compressed, artifacts, but I doubt there's anything else you can do.

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    2. Re:So.. by Excors · · Score: 5, Informative

      I've been using the shareware version of NetTransport, which seems to work quite nicely - give it the .ram or .asx URL, wait half an hour, and it'll save the 26MB of .rm or .asf data.

    3. Re:So.. by tannnk · · Score: 1

      You can use mplayer. I think it was the dumpstream option.

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    4. Re:So.. by MrNemesis · · Score: 1

      If you live in the UK, you can hook your line-in up to your FM/DAB tuner, and make yourself cron jobs to record the input to WAV, then transcode into vorbis or flac... gives much higher quality than -dumpstream from a RealMedia stream.

      Works well for me :) All I need now is a way of getting the computer to change the frequency, although I rarely record more than one thing a week, so I just set the tuner manually.

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    5. Re:So.. by dspeyer · · Score: 1
      mplayer -ao pcm mms://wm.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/h2g3_episode 1.asf && oggenc audiodump.wav

      You'll probably want to rename audiodump.ogg to something more descriptive.

    6. Re:So.. by lydic · · Score: 1

      For windows you can try Total Recorder . It's not free but only costs $12.00 and basically records anything targeted at your sound system. Available from http://www.highcriteria.com/, and all I can say is that it just works.

    7. Re:So.. by nzhavok · · Score: 1

      how can I rip this to HD?

      You can also dump the stream with mplayer, which is GPL. The windows port works fine for this although you have to use it from the commandline.

      the command is something like:
      mplayer -dumpstream -playlist http://domain/address/to/ram/file.ram

      If you actually have the address of the .rm stream and not the ram container then you can skip the -playlist option. Should produce a file called stream.dump rename it and play it like a normal .rm.

      I haven't seen the WMP stream at the BBc only the rm, I expect the process is the same.

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    8. Re:So.. by nzhavok · · Score: 1

      I've been using the shareware version of NetTransport, which seems to work quite nicely

      You can also dump the stream with mplayer, which is GPL. The windows port works fine for this although you have to use it from the commandline.

      the command is something like:
      mplayer -dumpstream -playlist http://domain/address/to/ram/file.ram

      If you actually have the address of the .rm stream and not the ram container then you can skip the -playlist option. Should produce a file called stream.dump rename it and play it like a normal .rm.

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  7. There's isn't a 42 joke in here, I swear! by Aquatopia17 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I for one am really excited that HG2G has finally made its way back to radio. And on top of that, I can listen to it hassle-free (not as in beer) and free (as in beer) of charge over the internet. I wish listening to American proprietary radio stations was always this easy.

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    1. Re:There's isn't a 42 joke in here, I swear! by ninthwave · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The BBC isn't propietery it is paid for by a license fee which is charged to all owners of Tv's and radios like a tax. They have to be as free as possible as it has been paid for by the UK citizens already.

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    2. Re:There's isn't a 42 joke in here, I swear! by zanderredux · · Score: 1
      Yeah. Except for NPR, I'd say...

      Go BBC!

    3. Re:There's isn't a 42 joke in here, I swear! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Well, US citizens didn't pay a dime (nor a pence, for that matter). It's an international courtesy which I am grateful for. I mean, would you (non-ironically) listen to Voice of America for entertainment?

    4. Re:There's isn't a 42 joke in here, I swear! by LordK2002 · · Score: 4, Funny
      I wish listening to American proprietary radio stations was always this easy.
      Really? I would prefer it if listening to American proprietary radio stations were made as difficult as possible.
    5. Re:There's isn't a 42 joke in here, I swear! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful
      charged to all owners of Tv's and radios like a tax.

      No, just TVs; they gave up on taxing radios decades ago, after the invention of the transistor made radios so small, cheap and portable that it was impossible to keep track of them. TV's are getting near that magic transition point too, plus what the licensing people don't want the general public to realise is that digital TV tuners aren't detectable by their much hyped but rarely seen detection equipment... The TV tax is an anachronism, but politicians like having the BBC utterly dependent on their goodwill = recently one radio reporter did a report critical of the Government, and it scared the Beeb so shitless that a governor resigned,,,

    6. Re:There's isn't a 42 joke in here, I swear! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF is a proprietary radio station? Do I need a special radio to listen?

    7. Re:There's isn't a 42 joke in here, I swear! by ninthwave · · Score: 2

      And many bad whitewashed inquiries and the director general resigned and did some program about it on Channel 4.

      Sorry I am Yank living over here for the last three years, I really thought the fee was in the sale of radios, didn't realise they scrapped it altogether. Living in the states for 30 years and here for 3 I appreciate my TV license tax. It is excellent value that is produced with it. Is it still needed. I don't know but I would like to think that the BBC would have that revenue stream guaranteed so that no matter what happens with the media market the core services can stay.

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    8. Re:There's isn't a 42 joke in here, I swear! by Aquatopia17 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Proprietary means the radio station (or anything else you're talking about for that matter) is owned by a private entity, unlike the BBC, which is funded/owned by the state (though not as extreme as the state-controlled media one may find in an oppressive dictatorship).

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    9. Re:There's isn't a 42 joke in here, I swear! by Billy69 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      plus what the licensing people don't want the general public to realise is that digital TV tuners aren't detectable by their much hyped but rarely seen detection equipment
      Surely it is not that hard to re-tune their equipment to the higher frequency produced by the local oscillator in the digital tuner. I mean, even I could probably do that.

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    10. Re:There's isn't a 42 joke in here, I swear! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not as extreme as the state-controlled media one may find in an oppressive dictatorship

      Don't worry, Blunket and Blair are working on both parts of that equation.

    11. Re:There's isn't a 42 joke in here, I swear! by Mwongozi · · Score: 2, Informative

      The license fee for radios was dropped years ago. Only the TV license remains, which funds both TV and Radio. (And the BBC web site.)

    12. Re:There's isn't a 42 joke in here, I swear! by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 1

      One of the best things about public TV as it seems to work in the UK and other parts of Europe is that it is not some kind of popularity contest where all that really counts is how many eyeballs will get to see the next advertisement.

      This results in also making programs for quality and making and broadcasting more experiemntal things without a 'guarantee' to get viewers.

      THere is a lot to say for both approaches (comemrcial and public) btw, I see them more as complementary then in competition with eachother.

      I do wonder tho why it seems this does not work like that in the USA (at least, that is my impression from having been there, and from what people keep telling me)

    13. Re:There's isn't a 42 joke in here, I swear! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "This results in also making programs for quality and making and broadcasting more experiemntal things without a 'guarantee' to get viewers"

      No. It doesn't guarantee any such thing. BBC television these days is as dumbed down stupid and awful as any of the commercial stations.

    14. Re:There's isn't a 42 joke in here, I swear! by Malc · · Score: 1

      The BBC isn't funded or owned by the state.

    15. Re:There's isn't a 42 joke in here, I swear! by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 1

      > No. It doesn't guarantee any such thing.

      Please go reread my original post, I NEVER EVER claimed it guaranteed any quality or whatever, I said that the BBC can broadcast things without the guarantee that it will brign in many viewers because they do not depend on advertisement income.

      > BBC television these days is as dumbed down stupid and awful as any of the commercial stations.

      I happen to live in the Netherlands, and am getting (among others) both commercial and public TV from the following countries:

      the Netherlands (3 public stations and like 7 or 8 commercial ones)
      UK. (BBC 1, 2, news24, bbc world service and a number of comemrcial stations)
      France (public tv and a commercial station)
      Belgium (2 public stations and 3 or so commercial ones)
      Germany (3 public stations and a bunch of commercial ones)
      Greece (1 commercial station)
      Italy (2 public and a commercial station)
      USA (various news and entertainment stations, so not just CNN)
      Turkey (1 commercial station)
      Japan (no idea, can't follow a thing of it, but there is a japanese station on cable here)
      China (same, no idea since I can't follow it at all, but its there)

      The BBC is in the absolute top with regards to quality when compared to all other channels that I can get. Do they have lots of mainstream 'no brains' entertainment as well? sure, but they also do have decent and in-depth talkshows and news and backgrounds, (popular) scientific programs that actually are more then a bunch of 'hidden' commercials and educational programs.

      So, compared to others they simply do a lot better, and on average, compared to esp. stations from the USA and Asia, the European stations do relatively well in quality.

      So honestly, I don't know where you are comming from with your comment, care to tell what you compare it to or what kind of standard you'd like to see for quality?

    16. Re:There's isn't a 42 joke in here, I swear! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would prefer it if listening to American proprietary radio stations were made as difficult as possible.

      Have you tried? I think it's already done. At least I find them pretty hard to listen to.

    17. Re:There's isn't a 42 joke in here, I swear! by Aquatopia17 · · Score: 1

      My mistake. Silly American over here. Most I know of British gov't is all received from half-drunken exchange students (80% incoherent, 90% negative, 170% interesting).

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  8. Where can I get the originals? by halivar · · Score: 1

    For those of us too young to have known anything about HHGG except the books.

    1. Re:Where can I get the originals? by SpooForBrains · · Score: 4, Informative

      Here. The audio effects make up a large part of the experience, so buying the CD is highly recommended.

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    2. Re:Where can I get the originals? by drewness · · Score: 1

      And don't be afraid of ordering from amazon UK if you live in the US. The shipping price and the time it takes to get to you isn't much worse than if you had ordered them from amazon US.
      Actually, I've ordered from amazon US, UK, DE, and JP, and for some reason the only one with outrageous shipping cost and time is the German one. Quite odd.

    3. Re:Where can I get the originals? by kraut · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can get a slightly cheaper version from http://www.bbcshop.com

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    4. Re:Where can I get the originals? by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 1

      > and for some reason the only one with outrageous shipping cost and time is the German one. Quite odd.

      Long live Deutsche Post and their freaking 12+ euro for shipping a package to the USA, for which uyou wont get insurance or airmail.. think about 20+ euro for that. THe first method will take anywhere between 1 and 3 weeks, the later anywhere between 2 and 5 days (information as I got it from one of the main post offices in Berlin 3 weeks ago)

      Competition? Hardly there, they managed so far to use regulations to keep most competition out.

      So well, you could as well use a private carrier for delivery, it will eb abotu as expensive, and they guarantee much better delivery times and such.

      So.. there is why ordering from amazon.de costs you that much.

  9. Reason for no OGG / MP3 by tod_miller · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There are still copyrights, but more so they want to pull people into thier sprawl of a site.

    I love the radio shows. I have them as MP3 (must OGG 'em)

    Any updates on the film? It is a long way off, I don't wanna rush them, but they can keep us in suspense, and trickle delicious sweet information to us slowly - and an OGG of marvin saying 'diodes on my left side'.

    In unrelated 42 news, Seinfeld 1-3 series set was 42 on the amazon sales rank, and I bought it today. Nov i'll be out.

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    1. Re:Reason for no OGG / MP3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The film comes out on 3 June.

      ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha

  10. Purchase on MP3 from bbcshop by tod_miller · · Score: 3, Informative

    Errm... Here...

    Or *mule*, gnu*, *azaa it. torrent to mp3's greatly appreciated, all proceeds go to my HDD.

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    1. Re:Purchase on MP3 from bbcshop by makapuf · · Score: 1

      NO, you shouldn't "pirate" it.

      They are providing a drm-free, "open" format, to sale the favorite show of many ppl. This is one of the more "slashdot-friendly" audio download ever, and then what are the first posts here ? Download it for free on emule or torrent or rip the stream.

      C'mon, please. Mod them as troll, which I hope those comments are.

    2. Re:Purchase on MP3 from bbcshop by tod_miller · · Score: 1

      I agree with you - I feel so guilty now...

      Just kidding. The original radio series was not available for some time, until recently. I am glad someone MP3'd the LP.

      I agree with you point, that they have a DRM free version for sale and a free broadcast (that went well for me) available right now.

      If I want to listen to it in 12 months, I will hope they have thier store open, and a non DRM copy then ey?

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    3. Re:Purchase on MP3 from bbcshop by Trejkaz · · Score: 1

      Recently? I received the original radio series on CD as a present years ago. So long ago, in fact, that I've had time to lose one of the CDs, and will have to buy it again (argh!)

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    4. Re:Purchase on MP3 from bbcshop by TomV · · Score: 1

      What's more, if you *are* going to pirate it, don't get it via a p2p network or a torrent. The BBC's bandwidth is so huge it'll never notice a few million people pulling the WMA or Real streams, but they will log the hits which will help to support their continued existence in the run-up to the renegotiation of their Royal Charter in 2006.

      Personally, I've been recording it from FM (which is a fab throwback to the time I did the same with Series one when I was 11), WAVing and MP3ing from the tape for the portable, and as sson as Fit The Thirteeth had finished on Tuesday evening I pre-ordered the CDs from BBCshop.com

    5. Re:Purchase on MP3 from bbcshop by tod_miller · · Score: 1

      That comment was something out of a Dirk Gently novel, I swear! :-)

      Or the Screwdrivers [first ep of the 3ary phase, so long and thanks for all the fish] that have to be hidden in a drawer.

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  11. mplayer to the rescue! by CoolVibe · · Score: 5, Informative
    $ mplayer -dumpstream mms://wm.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/h2g3_episode 1.asf &

    Share and enjoy, and why don't you stick your head in a pig ;)

    1. Re:mplayer to the rescue! by CoolVibe · · Score: 3, Informative

      grmbl, damn slashdot. Watch out when copy&pasting that, there is a stray space in there courtesy of slashcode.

    2. Re:mplayer to the rescue! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, that doesn't work to me:
      Unable to open URL: mms://wm.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/h2g3_episode 1.asf

    3. Re:mplayer to the rescue! by gyrojoe · · Score: 3, Informative
      If you want to encode it to something else, convert it to wav like this:
      $ mplayer stream.dump -ao pcm
      Convert the resulting wav file to MP3 (or OGG) and you're done.
    4. Re:mplayer to the rescue! by hackstraw · · Score: 1

      Hmm, seems /.ed. Anyone got a torrent of the dump? Anyway, check this out:

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/index.shtm l

      There it says that the mms://wm.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/h2g3_episode 1.asf link is in "experimental 5.1" format. Does anybody know more about that? Is this something that is autodetected in the download to determine a 2.0 or 5.1 mix? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

    5. Re:mplayer to the rescue! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any idea how to make mplayer use a web proxy? I can play stuff live using realplayer so it must be possible but with mplayer, the proxy complains about the URL protocol.

    6. Re:mplayer to the rescue! by lakin · · Score: 1

      There is a separate link for 2.0, although i tihnk it is real media only. I would imagine if you want to listen to the 5.1 in 2.0, you just rely on it being downmixed to 2.0 by wmp. The 5.1 sounds pretty good though, i guess being mostly talking and not music it doesnt matter that its 192k.

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    7. Re:mplayer to the rescue! by Trejkaz · · Score: 1

      Okay, my MPlayer can't open that at all, it says there is no route to host. Funnily enough, going to the BBC web site works fine.

      Can't they just use a goddamned web server? It would save everyone's trouble.

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    8. Re:mplayer to the rescue! by Hieronymus+Howard · · Score: 3, Informative

      Gentoo users will require mplayer to be compiled with the new (and undocumented) network flag in their USE flags, otherwise streaming will not work.

    9. Re:mplayer to the rescue! by sparkz · · Score: 1

      The proxy has to be configured for streaming media. But, if you can use Real, the BBC's Listen Again does offer Real format: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/rpms/hitchhikers.ra m

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    10. Re:mplayer to the rescue! by rocketfairy · · Score: 1

      Yeh, watch out with that. Converting a (really lossy) Real file to a (less lossy) mp3 or ogg will just get you a really, really lossy file.

      I'm waiting for someone with XM (or the brit equivalent) to upload some nice ogg's, but not holding my breath ...

    11. Re:mplayer to the rescue! by Noksagt · · Score: 1

      Not sure what you mean by "undocumented."network: Local Flag: Enables network streaming support (media-video/mplayer)

    12. Re:mplayer to the rescue! by don.g · · Score: 1

      Now if someone would actually share a copy for those of us who are stuck with "No route to host" errors, I'd be deleriously happy.

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  12. Live Stream by rollerbob · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Surely listeners abroad can hear the new series at the same time as everyone else simply by pressing the 'Listen Live' button on the Radio 4 website at 17:30GMT (18:30BST) every Tuesday for the duration of the series.

    1. Re:Live Stream by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But when it is at around 4am local time?

    2. Re:Live Stream by SpooForBrains · · Score: 1

      The "Listen Again" stream is actually available pretty much as soon as the show has finished airing, but the BBC just don't publish it on their site until the repeat has aired.

      It's at rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/comedy/tue1830.ra

      (Excors found this out and posted it in the previous Hitchhiker thread)

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    3. Re:Live Stream by jeremyp · · Score: 1

      It's repeated on Thursdays at 10pm GMT and after that is available via the listen again facility.

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  13. Any one up for a flollop? by I+Need+Beer · · Score: 2, Funny

    * Non orthopaedicly sprung life-forms are reminded that mattresses are the only sentient creatures to require regular flolloping. *

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    1. Re:Any one up for a flollop? by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 1

      What's a mattress?

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  14. Pre-Order of new tertiary phase: by tod_miller · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.bbcshop.com/invt/0563510439&source= 841

    Original cast and the Life the Universe and Everything, I think Dougie wrote it - although in thier infinite wisdom those fsk-a-wits at the beeb have actually not given the information in the description.

    I mean, it is not as if anyone would be interested to know.

    I really hate stupid websites. I am not sure if I should buy it - or listen to it. I am just going to go stand in a corner, brain the size of the universe...

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    1. Re:Pre-Order of new tertiary phase: by Willard+B.+Trophy · · Score: 1

      BBCShop only ships to the UK and EU; elsewhere, we're SOL. The site does offer the usual raft of countries, though, which is dumb.

    2. Re:Pre-Order of new tertiary phase: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HA!

      HAHAHAHA

      HEHEHEHEHE /All the brits that miss out on cool stuff that does not get shipped to the UK.

    3. Re:Pre-Order of new tertiary phase: by Willard+B.+Trophy · · Score: 1

      'sokay, I've got family there. Shall I order a few to resell here in Canada? Eee, I remember listening to the original series on BBC Radio4 *long wave*.

  15. Easy enough to transcode to mp3 or ogg... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...if you have a babelfish handy.

  16. HHGTTG Text Adventure by stephendl · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Even better on the site is a flash version of the original HHGTTG text adventure game...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/game.shtml

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    1. Re:HHGTTG Text Adventure by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dear moderators,

      The above post actually comes just after my post on the subject, not before. 'Stephendl' obviously copied mine, only for it to be swept back through an eddy in the space-time continuum. Please moderate accordingly.

      (Apologies!)

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    2. Re:HHGTTG Text Adventure by stephendl · · Score: 1, Funny

      I always keep my watch set 5 mins before anyone else to beat everyone else ;-)

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    3. Re:HHGTTG Text Adventure by gowen · · Score: 1

      Yeah well, this post is just my post from a few days ago having been sucked through a Total Perspective Vortex...

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  17. Updated Infocom Game by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 4, Informative

    As trailed a few weeks ago, there's the updated version of the old Infocom interactive fiction version of the Guide.

    I had a play on it yesterday - I've no idea how they built it, but they seem to have some unholy alliance of Flash, Z-code and XML running it all. It's pretty cool, too - it's the same old game, but with added graphics...

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    1. Re:Updated Infocom Game by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      I was just there. Too bad it's not multiplayer--think of all those people standing around the pub in dressing-gowns. (Almost like some SF conventions before it was realized that (1) it's been done to death before, (2) it wasn't that great to start with. Hmm, Death Arthur Death...)

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    2. Re:Updated Infocom Game by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As much as I liked HHGTG as a kid, and as much as I loved the infocom games (Planetfall and Stationfall are probably my favorites), the HHGTG infocom game was probably about the worst one they made. One misstep and the game was over, it was completely linear and frustrating.

      Check out this little quote on the fate of the "Restaurant" sequel that was never released.

      Apparantly DNA just didn't "get" the idea of interactive fiction.

      Anyhow, is there any way to hear the original radio series, or obtain the original TV series for free (legally, of course)?

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    3. Re:Updated Infocom Game by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      Apparantly DNA just didn't "get" the idea of interactive fiction.

      From the quote, it's not really clear if he meant DNA or his friend, who worked on because DNA was busy.

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    4. Re:Updated Infocom Game by stratjakt · · Score: 1

      I remember, back when, reading something that kind of suggested noone at the BBC really "got it".

      It was all completely new to them, and it's hard to think out a game like that.

      Storytelling and good game design are simply worlds apart. So relax, I wasn't "dissing" DNA.

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    5. Re:Updated Infocom Game by Masem · · Score: 2, Interesting

      While HHGTTG may have been the worst, all of Infocom's games suffered from dying easily from making the wrong move; HHGTTG made it worse that you had to make right moves, wholely unrelated to your actions at the current time, in order to survive the game later (e.g. dog/sandwich). all you young'uns with your LucasArts never-can-die-at-all-no-matter-how-hard-you-try adventure games!

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    6. Re:Updated Infocom Game by gidds · · Score: 1
      it's the same old game, but with added graphics...

      Ah. That answers my question of why they haven't released the new version in Infocom format, then!

      I prefer the original. At least I can play that on the train on my Psion.

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    7. Re:Updated Infocom Game by stev_mccrev · · Score: 1

      I've no idea how they built it

      There's an info page of the building of the new edition under the game.

      It's here
      Though it doesn't give too many technical details.

    8. Re:Updated Infocom Game by Sean+D.+Solle · · Score: 5, Informative
      ... some unholy alliance of Flash, Z-code and XML

      The back end's a C++ multi-threaded ZMachine running as a web server extension (can be compiled either as an Apache module or an ISAPI DLL).

      As well as sending the user's input and the game's output back and forth as XML, it also watches the ZMachine's internal state to send the location, score, number of moves, inventory etc.

      It has extra "knowledge" about the HHG game's internals (which is how it can handle the bedroom being dark, house being knocked down etc). This was hard-coded in the release that the BBC are running (due to time constraints - we had to ship on Sep 21st!), but newer builds have an external config file which can let the game twiddle the XML output accordingly, so in theory it could run any of the Infocom adventures.

      Shim's Flash client grabs the XML, pulls up Rod's artwork, displays the inventory and handles the text i/o history.

      Most of the team is on vacation at the moment (I'm posting in the naive hope that it'll mean less email waiting for me when I get back ;-), but there'll be full spec released in due course.

      It's pretty cool, too

      Thanks ... glad you like it!

      Sean.

    9. Re:Updated Infocom Game by MilenCent · · Score: 1

      Actually, you can feed the dog the sandwich later, when you go back in time to play Ford's scenario. A far worse problem is failing to get the Atomic Vector Plotter, which really will screw you over, or failing to get the junk mail, or missing one of the several tools in your house at the beginning of the game and then having Marvin request it for the game-winning puzzle at the very end.

      I think the best way to play the Hitchhiker's game is to have clues handy, or to be playing the version with built-in hints (like I had). Unlike many other Infocom games, the Hitchhiker's game is still perfectly enjoyable if the game elements are spoiled for you. In fact, due to the sheer amount of extra material lurking around for when you do weird things (try typing "panic", "don't wait" or "escape" sometime), the game may indeed be more enjoyable when you don't have to worry about figuring out the puzzles.

  18. net transport by Errtu76 · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can save streaming media using Net Transport

    1. Re:net transport by DoctorRad · · Score: 2, Informative
      Not to mention the many incarnations of Streambox VCR that are floating around. Streambox Ripper will convert the Real Audio to MP3 or WAV.

      Matt.

    2. Re:net transport by slackerboy · · Score: 4, Funny

      From their website:
      "Net Transport is the faster, terrible (very many users call from feedback) and most powerful downloading tool that you ever saw"

      I'm still trying to figure out if that's a glowing recommendation or not....

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    3. Re:net transport by Denyer · · Score: 1

      It's pretty darn good. I think the guy who develops it meant "terrific"...

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  19. Woot! I can't wait to listen... by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 0

    buffering...

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  20. Here is my towel... by multi-flavor-geek · · Score: 0

    Now if I had an internet connection strong enough t0 download them (28.8 sucks) I would be set, anyone want to convert it to a 32 bitrate mp3?

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    1. Re:Here is my towel... by Denyer · · Score: 1

      It's less than 9.5Mb for the stereo stream -- for a half-hour programme, it's already reasonably compressed.

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    2. Re:Here is my towel... by dspyder · · Score: 1

      Are you kidding me? I just streamed them on my phone over GPRS!!!! That can't be much more than 28.8 on a good day.

      --D

  21. Re:this is awesome by cyberworm · · Score: 1

    oh yeah, is there a way to rip the 5.1 stream?

  22. From memory, the full song by SpooForBrains · · Score: 2

    Share and Enjoy!
    Share and Enjoy!
    Journey through life with a plastic boy
    Or girl by your side let your pal be you guide
    And if it gets slow or starts to annoy

    Does it grind when it walks
    Or squeak when it talks?
    Has it eaten your hat
    Or had sex with your cat?

    Sprayed oil on your walls
    Or ripped of your doors
    And it gets to the point
    You can't stand anymore

    Bring it to us
    We won't give a fig
    We'll tell you
    Go Stick Your Head in a Pig!

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  23. Eddies in the space-time continuum... by Serious+Simon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Who's Eddy?

    1. Re:Eddies in the space-time continuum... by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hi there! I'm Eddy, your shipboard computer!

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    2. Re:Eddies in the space-time continuum... by Billy69 · · Score: 1

      And what's he doing in the space-time continuum?

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    3. Re:Eddies in the space-time continuum... by Matt_UK · · Score: 1

      He's the computer in the corrner with the aze stuck in him (looks like Zafod finaly Gave him a re-programing he won't forget)

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  24. Hinet Recorder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    www.hoonnet.co.kr/productdown/HiNetRecorderSetup.e xe

  25. Quicktime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The show should be available in Quicktime format -- Douglas Adams was Macintosh fanatic.

  26. I'm sorry I am tooo depressed..... by adsl · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...to listen to a radio programme. I think I will go and dismantle myself. Love Marvin:(

    1. Re:I'm sorry I am tooo depressed..... by ElectroKiwiMonkey · · Score: 1

      LOVE? Don't talk to me about love... Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and I'm stuck being the butt of jokes that obviously don't understand my character. And I STILL have this pain in all the diodes down my left side.

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  27. While we are griping about formats... by museumpeace · · Score: 2, Interesting

    go a little farther into the BBC website to hear/read the recorded interviews where Douglas Adams made predictions about how all these formats and playback technologies where going to mold the economy and user experience of consuming media. This page was also the entry point for a contest seeking new material you might create for submission to the HHGG. [like I wasn't already wasting enough time reading /. !-)]

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  28. Re:this is awesome by Billy69 · · Score: 1

    They are not currently offering it in 5.1, it was mastered in 5.1 and downmixed to 2-channel. The 5.1 version will come out next year on DVD-Audio/hybrid.

    Look Here for lots of news, including some stuff about the 5.1 version.

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  29. Re:this is awesome by iainr · · Score: 1

    Presumable he's talking about:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/newserie s. shtml

    in the listen again box

    LISTEN AGAIN IN SURROUND SOUND

    Try our experimental 5.1 Surround Sound service.

    Real Player 10. Requires broadband connection and 5.1 surround sound speakers for optimum effect.

  30. Re:this is awesome by Billy69 · · Score: 1

    Hmm, apparently thay are offering a 5.1 version online.

    So that's what it feels like to be wrong.

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  31. Past its sell-by date by holdp · · Score: 0, Troll

    I was very disappointed by episode 1. They seem to
    have forgotten the excellent advice 'leave them wanting more'. It might pick up...

  32. why wait? by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 1

    This aired Tuesday AND last night. I listened to it twice (and got several friends on the second airing). Why wait till Thursday?

    Will we be seein this every week on slashdot now?

    "HHGG airs tonight"
    "HHGG is put online tonight"

    Maybe I should start submitting them and finally get an article up

    --
    I like muppets.
  33. timing is everything by hotblack296 · · Score: 1

    I'm glad I got to it before it got /.ed

    --
    "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." Pablo Picasso.
    1. Re:timing is everything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You think we're going to Slashdot the BBC?

      HA HA HA!

      Any minute now someone is going to post a link to the map of their "content distribution system" that's available somewhere on the BBC website.

      The one that shows the redundant 4Gb links. Everywhere. And the multihomed hosting in the UK & US.

      Do your worst!

  34. Re:this is awesome by Billy69 · · Score: 1

    OK, after my prior fuckup, here is an answer:

    I used 'Net Transport' to download the 5.1 version from the link given. I downloaded it (26 Meg file) in about 12 minutes (the joys of JANet).

    It is showing up in Media Player as:

    Windows Media Audio 9 Professional
    128 kbps, 44 kHz, 5.1 channel 16 bit 1-pass CBR.

    Now to my question,

    I have XBMC on my XBox attached to a DD/DTS amp. Do you reckon I can get it to play this file without any problems/post processing?

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    #include "disclaimer.h"
  35. Re:KCRW has original series: .rm files by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Download them from the de-obfuscated wrapper cgis:

    rtsp://go.rbn.com/livecon/kcrw/g2demand/hg/hg021 23 1Episode_12.rm
    rtsp://go.rbn.com/livecon/kcrw/g2d emand/hg/hg02123 0Episode_11.rm
    rtsp://go.rbn.com/livecon/kcrw/g2d emand/hg/hg02122 9Episode_10.rm

    etc. Note extraneous spaces inserted by slashcode.

    Download 'em with NetTransport, and rip 'em to MP3 with your favourite ripper.

  36. Re:this is awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only if XBMC can do realtime WMA->AC-3 transcoding. Your receiver won't know how to decode a 5.1WMAPro bitstream.

  37. pre-order tertiary phase on CD from Amazon.co.uk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

    (they'll ship to the U.S.)

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0563510 43 9/qid=1096036483/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_8_1/026-5437908-3 862810

  38. Unlistenable by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 1

    Does anyone else find it annoying that the stream is interrupted every ten seconds to buffer?

    1. Re:Unlistenable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two words:

      GET BROADBAND

    2. Re:Unlistenable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      capture the stream then :)

    3. Re:Unlistenable by MilenCent · · Score: 1

      This is because the person who submitted the story included only the broadband-only surround-sound links. (I'm still using dial-up, you insensitive clod!) There are other links on Radio 4's site that are better suited for dial-up users.

  39. well, the pause button doesn't work in firefox.... by acroyear · · Score: 2, Funny

    but, to quote marvin, "I think I feel good about it."

    --
    "But remember, most lynch mobs aren't this nice." (H.Simpson)
    -- Joe
  40. Re:this is awesome by Billy69 · · Score: 1

    In that case, does anybody know how to extract a 5.1 channel WMA back out to PCM, and then remultiplex it back into AC-3 format?

    --
    #include "disclaimer.h"
  41. Re:this is awesome by DoctorRad · · Score: 1
    You'll probably need to look at using the MS GraphEdit utility to separate into different channels and then BeSweet to encode to DD 5.1.

    Or something like that anyway. The good people over at the Doom9 Forums will probably be able to help you further.

    Matt...

  42. Re:this is awesome by iantri · · Score: 1

    Yes. See my post under grandparent.

  43. good to know... by Triv · · Score: 1
    ...that they're keeping with tradition - this series in no way fits inside of what we know of how the secondary phase ended. Might pull an extremely unwieldy rabbit out of their hat, I guess, but there's a good shot they'll just shrug and try not to mention it.

    Not that I'm complaining, or anything, it just makes listening to them in a row a mite difficult (or at least extremely confusing)

    Triv

    1. Re:good to know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Secondary Phase was Zaphod's halucination after drinking one to many Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters®...

  44. Re:pre-order tertiary phase on CD from Amazon.co.u by Neophytus · · Score: 1

    Here's a non-broken-up and very clickable link to it. http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/056351043 9/

  45. Re:this is awesome by iantri · · Score: 2, Informative
    Yes. You can just dump the stream with mplayer. However, I imagine you are looking to convert it to DVD-Audio or something so that you can play it on your stereo system. Here is the best way I can think of: (Windows)

    1. Dump the stream (however you wish). It is important that you dump the raw stream and not record the audio produced by it (Total Recorder is out). Mplayer will do this.

    2. Install Avisynth (http://www.avisynth.org).

    3. Create a script like so: (save as h2g2.avs or the like)

    DirectShowSource("h2g2file.wma")

    Playing this back in a AVI player will be the same as an AVI without video, with 5.1ch WAV audio (it frameserves in real-time). 4. Install Besweet and Besweet GUI.

    5. Load the AVS file into Besweet GUI.

    6. Encode to 5.1ch AC3 or OGG or whatever you wish.


    Enjoy!

    Sorry, it's a little roundabout..

  46. Re:RA and WMA? Internet Years? by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1
    haven't touched it for nearly two years!

    And now long is that in Internet years?

    --
    "It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
  47. For all UK users... by MrNemesis · · Score: 1

    ...just roll your own MP3/vorbis/FLAC/speex version by recording the output from your FM/DAB radio via line in. Yes, it's an analogue hole, but you get *much* better quality than from a RealMedia source.

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    Moderation Total: -1 Troll, +3 Goat
  48. Re:this is awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    7. ????

    8. Profit.

  49. RA howto by blackest_k · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Streaming audio files depends on downloading a stubfile.
    A stubfile is a text file containing a link to another file sometimes the actual
    sound file or with real audio maybe to another text file

    file.ram -> file.smi -> file.rm

    file.ram is a small text file containing a link to file.smi or file.rm
    if the link is to file.smi
    your going to have to fetch that stubfile too
    Easy! create a webpage and put a link to the smi file.

    with frontpage and a text editor its as simple as copying the address given in the ram file from the text file and creating a hyperlink in front page giving this as the destination.

    in frontpage in preview mode you can right click this link and download the smi stubfile (or stick it on a website or open the page in your favourite web browser).

    you can just create a html page full of links to your favourite audio streams
    but eventually some of them will cease to work!

    if you take a look inside the smi file you will find something which looks like a http link but isnt quite.
    rtsp://somesite.com/foo/bar/dtfdstgwe/file.rm

    note
    rtsp: is the protocol used by a real server maybe some browsers support it?
    the random letters makes it a little more work for downloading a series of rm files even if the files you want are called file1.rm file2.rm the random directory name will change each time.

    There was a program called streambox vcr which would download and save the .rm file but thats not being developed anymore since the author got sued by real
    I think you will find a few alternatives.

    you can figure out how to find these right?

    converting RA format to something more flexable like MP3

    converting RA can be slow some converters work at a 1 to 1 speed
    winamp is an interesting one you need a realaudio input plugin (real16.exe is one) and lame encoder output plugin. (out_lame.binf_v161.exe)

    getting the realaudio plugin for winamp can be difficult unless you are a timetraveller since the original authors website has gone.
    Incidently winamp works fastest in its 2.xx incarnation while the plugins work in version 5 they are noticably slower.

    realaudio seems to be a very compact format a half hour real audio file might be as small as 8 to 9 meg in size.

    streaming mp3 files are pretty much the same just the stubfile contains the location of the MP3 file which sits on a normal webserver somewhere.

    Stubfiles are great you can create a link to a stubfile on one webserver which links to an mp3 file on another webserver or just write a stubfile and store it
    on your own website.

    creating a local html page also works so you could make your own list of mp3 files located elsewhere and stream them whenever you want to listen to them.
    just by loading the html file in your browser and clicking on the link.

    this little line will let you embed an mp3 file from somewhere on a webpage

    (- embed src="http://some site.bar/some.mp3" width="200" height="16" loop="FALSE" align="centre" -)

    It works with firefox and IE with the quicktime plugin installed.
    change (- -)for left and right triangles and make your own link.

    this post is a howto not a haveto some parts of the world might bust your ass for downloading copyrighted materials Stub files are probably legal
    The actual stream files less so.

    1. Re:RA howto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so what makes the parent off topic the fact it would upset real?

  50. Somewhat off-topic by Wordsmith · · Score: 1

    I've always hoped someone would make a guide simulator of sorts for the PalmOS, using the various entries detailed in the books/radio series/tv series for source material. I'd like to be able to look up vogon poetry at a whim on my palm.

    Clearly, there would be a copyright issue, but this is the 'net, and that's never stopped anyone before. Anyone know if anything like this exists?

  51. A recommendation by rollerbob · · Score: 1

    A little off topic this, but I just *have* to recommend this programme broadcast on Radio 4 last Monday. (RealPlayer file ->) First Impressions explores what what would happen if SETI detected a definite signal indicating extra-terrestrial intelligence. Contains interviews from SETI scientists mixed with lots of great 'out there' sound effects. This is Radio 4 at its best.

  52. My snap review frmo Tuesday night by OriginalArlen · · Score: 1, Interesting
    My instant micro-review: the use of original cast members and sympathetic approach to Douglas Adams' work compensates for the absence of the now-defunct BBC Radiophonic Workshop's music and sound effects. The story picks up where the printed'Life the Universe And Everything' starts. Overall it seems to me to be an excellent and worthy interpretation of the published version. This is especially good news as there are no less than three complete series in the can! In a fitting moment of synchronicity, 45 minutes before the broadcast, England beat Australia at cricket by six wickets to go into the final of a World limited-overs tournament. (No, we won't get the Ashes back until 2005. Hoorah for the King of Spain 8)

    Having listened a bit more thoroughly since I wrote that, I'd say that the style _IS_ subtly different from the first two series. I also screwed up by using lame commercial versions of Wikipedia content - Google seems to be thoroughly bombed with such crap now - and of course it's Life The Universe... Not Fish. The missing electronic music is a more serious problem - it sounds like they've used bland library music. The use of snippets of 'commercial' stuff in the original (eg 'Wish you were here' on Magrathea, bits of Jean-michel Jarre etc) was a nice touchj, almost an easter-egg. I still listen to teh original two series at least once a year and still find new pleasures therein. Only time will tell if the new will be as good, but so far it looks hopeful.

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    Everything I needed to know about life, I learnt from Blake's Seven
  53. Thank you very much! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let me add another hint (damn filter):

    There once was a program named vsound which might be of some use when trying to grab a stream.

  54. Hitchhiker's Guide to Recording HHGttG by MxM · · Score: 0

    (Newschool) run cord from soundcard OUT port to soundcard IN or MIC port, now you can record to HD with virtually any sound recorder prog.

    (Oldschool) Run cord from soundcard OUT port to your stereos AUX in or MIC port, press record on tape deck.

    For those with less powerfull PC's or those using Listen-Again who receive constant "Buffering" time delays: The BBC-4 Live Stream and Repeat Broadcast (Tuesday and Thursday respectively) are _lower_ bandwidth than the Listen-Again archive.

    For Maximum performance on a Minimum system: on Tuesday (original) or Thursday (repeat), click the radio-4 link to stream HHG then click (the small icon) to switch to stand-alone player.

    Last Bit: Then buy them when they come out! as a means of thanking the BBC for being so cool about this.

    Hope this 'elps,
    michaelmaelstrom.

  55. Re:More to the point by TractorBarry · · Score: 1

    Yes, we have indeed got TVs over here.

    Unfortunately we found that they mostly spew out loud, ignorant, blaring, mindless rubbish so we smashed them with hammers and went back to our "trusty" radios.

    TV... Do your brain a favour - just turn it off.

    --
    Sky subscribers are morons. They pay to be advertised at !
  56. Episode 1? by mr100percent · · Score: 1

    Where can I start with Episode 1?

    1. Re:Episode 1? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      try this: http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-browse?dir=/pub/. arch-download/hhgttg
      just delete the space before arch-download/hhgttg, don't know why it appears there.

    2. Re:Episode 1? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mesa donta thinka you wanta be doing that.

  57. Submitted this already... by flatface · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    H2G2 Returning to BBC Tuesday September 14, @03:58PM Rejected

  58. Aw, poor you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man, you want a hug better or something?

  59. HHG2TG is not SCI FI by Gopal.V · · Score: 1

    The Guide is more of a comedy satire set in a space ship , partly in the past , partly in the future with most timeframes being "Now".

    Oh, it's a fantasy with a LOT of science backing it up too (like the infinite improbability drive or earth being created by mice and margatheans).

    I wish I had read this book a lot earlier in my life. It should be made reading material for undergraduates (though this might cause them to hate it by association).

    Dune is fantasy, Star Wars is Sci Fi, The Guide is a comedy :)

  60. Re:this is awesome by Billy69 · · Score: 1

    Just in case anyone is interested (probably not...) but my attempts to transcode the stream to a DD/AC-3 stream failed, trying avisynth/virtualdub, and a few others.

    Somehow, however, the copy of XBMC I am running (can't remember the version No.) seems to automatically do asf->ac-3 transcoding, so it 'just worked'

    And I can assure you that the 5.1 mix through a decent surround sound system sounds absolutely amazing!

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  61. Thursday? by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

    I never could get the hang of thursdays...

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    Sara
    Designer, Gamer, Macgrrl in an XP World