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World's Deepest Cave Explored Further

DiniZuli writes "Australian Alan Warild led a 25-strong team of cavers from Russia and Ukraine on a world-record 1830-metre descent into the Krubera-Voronia cave in Abkhazia, Georgia. Read about it here (sacrifice of goat might be required). Here's a nice map of the cave."

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  1. no goat sacrifice needed by crazyray · · Score: 5, Informative

    forget the sacrifice to a goat, lets safe our Aussie friends bandwidth by posting this here...

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    On the other side of the globe, nearly two kilometres beneath the earth, in a cold, gloomy chasm, you can find a small slice of Australia.

    The sheer plunge near the bottom of the world's deepest cave, in a remote part of Georgia, doesn't automatically instantly inspire comparisons with Alan Warild's home country. It's bitterly cold, forever dark and usually damp. But since the veteran caver climbed to its dank depths last month it has incongruously borne Australia's name.

    The 49-year-old from Newtown was invited to lead a 25-strong team of cavers from Russia and Ukraine on a world-record 1830-metre descent into the Krubera-Voronia cave in Abkhazia, Georgia.

    At the end of the nine-day journey down the corkscrew-shaped hole, the triumphant team told Mr Warild it would name the final drop "Viva Australia" in his honour.

    "One of the Russians had the idea to name it in my honour since I was the first to go down - I suppose I was pretty chuffed," the self-effacing caver said.

    "It's not my favourite cave, because it's about 3 degrees at the bottom and it's muddy and you have to dive in one part. But it's a great challenge and a bit of a thrill to stand somewhere where no human being has ever stood before."
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    The previous world record for the deepest caving expedition, 1710 metres, was set in the same cave in 2001. But Mr Warild and his fellow travellers took a different route, passing through a sump filled with icy water to descend 120 metres further. "We went as far as we could, we hit a pit full of water and decided to leave it for another trip."

    The Australian Speleological Federation said it had received an unconfirmed report that a team of Ukrainians was currently attempting to better Mr Warild's record. But the name for the drop would remain, it said.

    "People like Alan are the modern-day equivalent of the explorers in the 19th century, others like me follow in their footsteps later," said federation president, John Dunkley.

    "That name will stay and be put on maps of the cave in future. It's a significant achievement and shows the respect Alan has overseas. He's a well-known name and one of the top three in the world when it comes to deep and difficult caves."

    Mr Warild discovered his unusual hobby when he was 13, on a school excursion to the Wee Jasper caves near Yass. Since then he has explored deep caves around the world.

    "Australia doesn't really have any deep ones," he said. "The deepest is in Tasmania, almost 400 metres. The best, in my opinion, is Muruk, in New Guinea. It's about 1250 metres.

    "I grew up in the Sutherland Shire and I always loved the outdoors. I think that's the only way I can explain it.

    1. Re:no goat sacrifice needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      "You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all different."

    2. Re:no goat sacrifice needed by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 4, Funny

      Exploring caves and goats in the same headline!

      I'm torn. My mind is screaming not to look at this article, my eyes are busy locking themselves shut, all my instincts are telling me it will have a double shock!

      omg JPEG virus...triple shocker!

      Must.. resist.. urge.. to.. look.. at.. goat.. cave.. picture!

      Then again, it might be perfectly harmless. I suppose I better rtfa in Lynx or somethin.

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    3. Re:no goat sacrifice needed by AbRASiON · · Score: 3, Funny

      Please don't confuse Australia and New Zealand again, you're one of those wacky hockey loving, maple leaf Americans aren't you??!

  2. Deep caves and goat? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I never want to see 'deep caves' and 'goat' mentioned in the same paragraph....ever....

  3. Important Discovery! by Mondoz · · Score: 4, Funny

    In another interview, the lead explorer has revealed the discovery of the initials of Arne Saknussemm in one of the deeper caves...

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  4. Got to be careful about those caves... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... don't want to end up like this guy.
    http://www.holyshiite.com/caver/

    1. Re:Got to be careful about those caves... by jaxdahl · · Score: 3, Funny

      OH! MAN! That is exactly what I did not want to read late at night.. Man, the ending -- that's awful! Thanks a lot, now I'm going to be up all night, my heart was POUNDing POUNDing..

    2. Re:Got to be careful about those caves... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Funny, I went to this exact cave a couple of years ago - didn't wenture through the tomb though. Just saw some gear and reckoned it was work in progress, didn't even imagine that someone had squezed throught that shit. I found a disposeable camera in there which I "borrowed" because it had only a few pictures taken on it and would soon be ruined in the damp conditions (I convinced myself)
      When I developed the film I reckoned it had belogned to some kids having fun making a halloween project or something, never made much of it until I saw this article and now I shitting myself (as I type)
      http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/OddPics/Images/ Cavedude.jpg

  5. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Funny

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  6. New record? by bornbitter · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...I don't know, I've seen Clinton dig himself out of deeper holes...

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  7. When your flashlight dies... by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 4, Funny
    Spinal Tap quote - applies to more than just album covers :-)

    "It's like, how much more black could this be? And the answer is none. None more black."

    Sorry, off topic and all, but it cracks me up every time.

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  8. New Species by EvilGoodGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I find this to be pretty interesting. There are so many terrains on our earth that we have yet to explore. And I think there are deffinite chances of there being some extremely unique creatures at these depths of a cave. People go nuts over exploring Mars. But I think we should put some effort into Earth as well.

    1. Re:New Species by 0racle · · Score: 4, Funny

      Look, if the devil has made one thing clear its that he's not a people person. I say we just leave him the hell alone.

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    2. Re:New Species by ravydavygravy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Check out the Movile Cave Project, a scientific project centering around a cave discovered by well drilling in Romania in 1986. The cave was significant because the life discovered in the water in the cave (which had no natural entrance and was so sealed off from the world) was based around a totally chemosynthetic ecosystem, where all energy came from chemicals produced and used by the creatures (no light involved - none available!). This small cave alone contained over 31 species that were new to science. It's pretty amazing what might be just under our feet...

    3. Re:New Species by arose · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Welcome to "Evolution", we are not a museum.

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  9. Outdoors? by Conor6 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I like how at the end of the article, the man who likes to run around underground talks about how much he loves the outdoors.

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  10. Short Cut by ozmanjusri · · Score: 3, Funny

    The sheer plunge near the bottom of the world's deepest cave, in a remote part of Georgia, doesn't automatically instantly inspire comparisons with Alan Warild's home country.

    Probably explains why he was trying to find a short cut home...

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  11. Bill Brasky by Jeffus · · Score: 3, Funny

    Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky explored the world's deepest cave? To Bill Brasky!

  12. BASTARDS! by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 4, Funny
    World's Deepest Cave Explored Further

    She's my ex-girlfriend, and I still hate her, but DAMN I never expected to hear about her private parts on Slashdot.

  13. NetHack by Jeremi · · Score: 4, Funny

    Man, I feel a sudden urge to play NetHack...

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  14. An actual quote from the cave by blake182 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I smell a wumpus."

  15. map reminds me of d&d by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Funny
    the map is missing the accompanying module guide but that's ok, i found the key. here's the guide to the area around that underground stream on the map:

    A long shaft rises up out of the water into the ceiling of this cave. The sides of the shaft glisten; jagged shards of wet ice coat every surface.

    At the top of the shaft lies a cave coated with ice. The ceiling is thick with particularly large stalactites.

    The walls of the shaft are coated with ice, so the Climb DC is 30. Further, a character touching any of the surfaces including the floor, walls, and ceiling in the hidden cave, must make a Reflex save (DC 20) or slip due to the slickness of the ice.

    Trap. Unless the PCs locate a hidden stone lever at the bottom of the shaft (DC 30 to do so) and pull it down, the stalactites immediately above the shaft in the cave are rigged to fall when anything passes 20 feet above the surface of the water. Anyone struck by these falling stones while climbing must make an immediate Climb check with a -4 penalty or fall.

    Falling Stalactites: CR 5; Falling mass of rocks (10d6); Reflex save halves damage (DC 15); Search (DC 28); Disable Device (DC 24).

    Treasure. Within the largest stalactite that remains held fast to the ceiling is a secret compartment (DC 28 to find) that is locked (DC 30 to open -- the key can be found in Area 7). Within this compartment, Charasta keeps a special treasure: a white diamond worth 5,000 gp, which the dragon's mother gave her from her own hoard.

    Charasta's Tactics. Charasta can appear here in a smaller form. She does not come here when threatened and, in fact, will teleport away rather than be cornered in the hidden cave.

    Creatures: A middle-aged female frost giant named Grunhilde (the jarl's mother) works here as cook, along with two ogres. Grunhilde hates her son; instead, she treats all the ogre servants as her "children." For their part, the ogres make poor servants (though Grunhilde loves them anyway) and take great fun in making the giants angry, then hiding behind Grunhilde's protection. They also enjoy tormenting the cryohydra in Area 7, pelting it with rocks, then darting away from its frost breath.

    Grunhilde: Female frost giant; CR 9; Large giant (Cold); HD 14d8+70; hp 125; Init ?1; Spd 40 ft.; AC 8 (touch 8, flat-footed 8); Atk +9/ 4 ranged (1d6+9, rock); Face/Reach 5 ft. x 5 ft./10 ft.; SQ Cold subtype, darkvision 60 ft.; AL CE; SV Fort +14, Ref +3, Will +4; Str 28, Dex 8, Con 20, Int 11, Wis 11, Cha 12.

    Skills and Feats: Climb +15, Hide ?5, Jump +15, Spot +6; Cleave, Great Cleave, Power Attack, Sunder.

    Cold Subtype: Immune to cold damage; takes double damage from fire unless a saving throw for half damage is allowed, in which case it takes half damage on a success and double damage on a failure.

    Ogres (2): hp 26 each, see Monster Manual, page 144. Each ogre carries 5d10 gp.


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  16. Interesting! by Underholdning · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All the goatse jokes aside, I find this very interesting. I still remember the impact Jules Vernes "A Journey to the Center of the Earth" had on me when I was a kid. I so wanted them to find som eerie remains of some unknown creature at the bottom of the cave.
    When I read stories like this, I get an urge in my stomach to give up life as a geek and become an explorer. I reckon I'm not the only one, since the story was posted on slashdot?
    /me walks out of the office "So long suckers!"

  17. better link by 095 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is a link with better spelling and geographical accuracy (Abkhazia is not in Georgia) : http://www.bask.info/exp/read.php?id=43

    And here is a blog : http://speleolog.ru/news/10krubera/

    Did anyone else notice that this is two months' old news?

  18. Interest read, but just a story :) by tricops · · Score: 5, Informative

    That was an interesting read.... it's just a story though, the original seems to be a story written by Thomas Lera, as seen here in pdf format.

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  19. Whare they gonna find grues? by gkwok · · Score: 5, Informative
    It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.

    > what is a grue

    The grue is a sinister, lurking presence in the dark places of the earth. Its favorite diet is adventurers, but its insatiable appetite is tempered by its fear of light. No grue has ever been seen by the light of day, and few have survived its fearsome jaws to tell the tale.
    grue
  20. Re:Why is it so cold? by se2schul · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's so cold because you get no sunlight to heat things up, yet you are so far from the centre of earth that the molten lava can't warm you either.

  21. Longest Cave Penetration by se2schul · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Interestingly enough, the longest cave penetration was made in a completely flooded cave using scuba (rebreathers). They are the EKPP http://www.ekpp.de/projects/doux02/index.html.

  22. World's Deepest Cave List by alpinekarst · · Score: 5, Informative

    For anyone interested, Bob Guilden of the National Speleological Society (NSS) keeps a list of the worlds deepest caves on his website at:

    http://www.pipeline.com/~caverbob/wdeep.htm

    and the NSS American Caving Accidents website always makes for a realistic read.....

    http://caves.org/pub/aca/

    If you really are interested in caving in North America, instead of taking the joe sixpack approach, contact a local grotto: you're bound get taken on a real caving trip.

    http://www.caves.org/io/grottos.shtml
    or
    http: //www.cancaver.ca/canadian.htm

    cheers