Why the hell not let them? They already do nothing all ay long, might as well keep them off the road clogging up the freeways and out of the coffee line in the morning.
That way the last 3 people in America with "real jobs" can get to work on time!
http://www.ohiovet.com/lazydog/bucyrus/ranger/cr ee d.htm
Recognizing that I volunteered as a Ranger, fully knowing the hazards of my chosen profession. I will always endeavor to uphold the prestige, honor, and high esprit de corps of the Rangers.
Acknowledging the fact that a Ranger is a more elite soldier who arrives at the cutting edge of battle by land, sea, or air. I accept the fact that as a Ranger my country expects me to move further, faster, and fight harder than any other soldier.
Never shall I fail my comrades I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong, and morally straight and I will shoulder more than my share of the tasks whatever it may be one hundred percent and then
some.
Gallantly will I show the world that I am a specially selected and well trained soldier. My courtesy to superior officers, neatness of dress, and care of equipment shall set the example for others to follow.
Energetically will I meet the enemies of my country I shall defeat them on the field of battle for I am better trained and will fight with all my might. Surrender is not a Ranger word, I will never leave fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy and under no circumstances will I ever embarrass my country.
Readily will I display the intestinal fortitude required to fight on to the Ranger objective and complete the mission though I be the lone survivor.
This thread is akin to the "If kids play video games (which in 1980, the big one was Pac-Man) they will LEARN about electronics and develop better hand-eye coordination. Rubbish!
In 1990 it was BBSs. Using offline mail readers to find out where the War3z B0ardz where at didn't teach anything about networks. Neither did using programs like CopyII+ for Apples teach anything about software development.
In 2000 (well, 2001) it is Napster and AIM and BattleNet and searching for nude pics of Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera.
Curve ball time - none of these pursuits are abnormal past times of 15 year old boys. In fact they mirror the underlying technology of the time. But to say that they have developed a TECHNOLOGICAL mastery of it and will be future leaders because of it is 100% nonsense.
I would expect to see this as a lead story on some trash like "Extra" or even the "National Enquirer".
I used the following to initially weed out "cupcakes with shell accounts" versus folks who have done some SA work. It has always served me well.
How many years of Systems Administration experience do you have?
Please describe your expertise level on the following operating systems:
SunOS?
Solaris
Digital UNIX/OSF1
HP-UX 10.x
DG/UX or any other SVR4 Operating System
AIX
Linux
Please describe your expertise in the following areas:
DNS/BIND
HTTP
Internet Services/Firewalls
Security Tools - Cops, Satan, Tiger, Crack
Sendmail
TCP/IP
Usenet News
What commands have you used to do backups? How about remote backups?
How would you look at the routes on a system?
If you lost your root password or root's environment became inoperable, discuss how you could recover it?
Differentiate between run levels:
0
1
2
3
User information is primarily stored in what 2 files?
Differentiate between physical and logical volume?
List 2 common 'kill' signals and discuss their use?
Discuss a situation where you could have space available via 'df' but still could not write to a disk drive?
Discuss the significance of IP address 127.0.0.1?
How would you look for any manpages relevant to the subject "kernel"?
If you had to migrate 25 users from system A to system B (both are running the same versions of your favorite OS), what are some of the issues you would need to consider in your planning?
Amen to that. 32.9 hours must come from the 3 days a week that gub'mint workers are on the job. I consider it a good week if it is 50-ish. Last week I had a 19-hour day, which unforunately is not very rare.
Technology has definitely enslaved the information worker.
Geeks rise up and ORGANIZE!
The Brotherhood/Sisterhood of UNIX SysAdmins Local 31337.
A good article. I agree that Linux zealots are often Linux's only real detractors. I have worked with UNIX systems for 9 years. I have used Linux for almost 6. That being said, I have developed enough maturity to know the right tool for the job. In some cases, a server running Exchange makes more BUSINESS sense than a linux SMTP server.
As a systems engineer I am very suspicious of people who say they only know Linux, or it is the de facto answer for all problems. It is the axiom of when the only tool in your toolbox is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Linux is not a mission critical operating system (not that ANY M$ offerings are either) and people think you are a heretic when you point out the shortcomings in a relatively new operating system.
I just hope that hacker d00dz with their cheesy little 5 whisker goatees and black t-shirts spouting some anit-establishment rhetoric don't prove to be the worst ambassadors of a great movement.
Colorado College vs the Lego Mac-10...
on
Lego Machine Gun
·
· Score: 1
I wonder what would happen if you built one of these guns during the Colorado College "new" admissions test and then exerted your leadership by holding the other test takers hostage.
It would demonstrate: - Engineering insite - Ability to apply technology in a stressful situation - Leadership - Do what I say or else! - It could be practical back in the 'hood to bust out a Lego Mac-10 on the playground with no risk of felony weapons charges.
This needs a +500.
And a beer.
Well said!
She is a Cheesehead from WI. What do you expect?
Oops - got modded down by 2 gubment "employees".
Why the hell not let them? They already do nothing all ay long, might as well keep them off the road clogging up the freeways and out of the coffee line in the morning.
That way the last 3 people in America with "real jobs" can get to work on time!
Cuz Rosie Odonnel is a stupid fucking cow...
Amen Brother Beavis!
Doh! My foot is firmly planted in my mouth. AHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Caffeine is FLAVORLESS party people. Come on do a little bit of fricking research you wing nuts...
I would have guessed the entire country of France to be the biggest fungus in Europe.
I use the 'cigarette' test - If you can do it while you are smoking a cigarette, it's not a sport!
Pool, darts, bowling, golf {I agree}- not sports, they are GAMES.
Hockey, basketball, lacrosse = sports.
Good posting, cuz the Fox version blows goats. That show sucks major ass!
URL got cheesed - http://www.ohiovet.com/lazydog/bucyrus/ranger/cree d.htm
I think this covers it:
r ee d.htm
http://www.ohiovet.com/lazydog/bucyrus/ranger/c
Recognizing that I volunteered as a Ranger, fully knowing the hazards of my chosen profession. I will always endeavor to uphold the prestige, honor, and high esprit de corps of the Rangers.
Acknowledging the fact that a Ranger is a more elite soldier who arrives at the cutting edge of battle by land, sea, or air. I accept the fact that as a Ranger my country expects me to move further, faster, and fight harder than any other soldier.
Never shall I fail my comrades I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong, and morally straight and I will shoulder more than my share of the tasks whatever it may be one hundred percent and then
some.
Gallantly will I show the world that I am a specially selected and well trained soldier. My courtesy to superior officers, neatness of dress, and care of equipment shall set the example for others to follow.
Energetically will I meet the enemies of my country I shall defeat them on the field of battle for I am better trained and will fight with all my might. Surrender is not a Ranger word, I will never leave fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy and under no circumstances will I ever embarrass my country.
Readily will I display the intestinal fortitude required to fight on to the Ranger objective and complete the mission though I be the lone survivor.
The Keeper of Lists site is WAY funnier than the pointer you put up. LAME!!!!!
http://keepersoflists.org/index.php?lid=610
Bitchin'! That looks REALLY good.
Awesome .sig. A classic!
This thread is akin to the "If kids play video games (which in 1980, the big one was Pac-Man) they will LEARN about electronics and develop better hand-eye coordination. Rubbish!
In 1990 it was BBSs. Using offline mail readers to find out where the War3z B0ardz where at didn't teach anything about networks. Neither did using programs like CopyII+ for Apples teach anything about software development.
In 2000 (well, 2001) it is Napster and AIM and BattleNet and searching for nude pics of Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera.
Curve ball time - none of these pursuits are abnormal past times of 15 year old boys. In fact they mirror the underlying technology of the time. But to say that they have developed a TECHNOLOGICAL mastery of it and will be future leaders because of it is 100% nonsense.
I would expect to see this as a lead story on some trash like "Extra" or even the "National Enquirer".
I used the following to initially weed out "cupcakes with shell accounts" versus folks who have done some SA work. It has always served me well.
/OSF1
How many years of Systems Administration experience do you have?
Please describe your expertise level on the following operating systems:
SunOS?
Solaris
Digital UNIX
HP-UX 10.x
DG/UX or any other SVR4 Operating System
AIX
Linux
Please describe your expertise in the following areas:
DNS/BIND
HTTP
Internet Services/Firewalls
Security Tools - Cops, Satan, Tiger, Crack
Sendmail
TCP/IP
Usenet News
What commands have you used to do backups? How about remote backups?
How would you look at the routes on a system?
If you lost your root password or root's environment became inoperable, discuss how you could recover it?
Differentiate between run levels:
0
1
2
3
User information is primarily stored in what 2 files?
Differentiate between physical and logical volume?
List 2 common 'kill' signals and discuss their use?
Discuss a situation where you could have space available via 'df' but still could not write to a disk drive?
Discuss the significance of IP address 127.0.0.1?
How would you look for any manpages relevant to the subject "kernel"?
If you had to migrate 25 users from system A to system B (both are running the same versions of your favorite OS), what are some of the issues you would need to consider in your planning?
Amen to that. 32.9 hours must come from the 3 days a week that gub'mint workers are on the job. I consider it a good week if it is 50-ish. Last week I had a 19-hour day, which unforunately is not very rare.
Technology has definitely enslaved the information worker.
Geeks rise up and ORGANIZE!
The Brotherhood/Sisterhood of UNIX SysAdmins Local 31337.
;-)
A good article. I agree that Linux zealots are often Linux's only real detractors. I have worked with UNIX systems for 9 years. I have used Linux for almost 6. That being said, I have developed enough maturity to know the right tool for the job. In some cases, a server running Exchange makes more BUSINESS sense than a linux SMTP server.
As a systems engineer I am very suspicious of people who say they only know Linux, or it is the de facto answer for all problems. It is the axiom of when the only tool in your toolbox is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Linux is not a mission critical operating system (not that ANY M$ offerings are either) and people think you are a heretic when you point out the shortcomings in a relatively new operating system.
I just hope that hacker d00dz with their cheesy little 5 whisker goatees and black t-shirts spouting some anit-establishment rhetoric don't prove to be the worst ambassadors of a great movement.
I wonder what would happen if you built one of these guns during the Colorado College "new" admissions test and then exerted your leadership by holding the other test takers hostage.
It would demonstrate:
- Engineering insite
- Ability to apply technology in a stressful situation
- Leadership - Do what I say or else!
- It could be practical back in the 'hood to bust out a Lego Mac-10 on the playground with no risk of felony weapons charges.