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2005's Tallest Roller Coaster

MacBrave writes "MSNBC has a short story about a new roller coaster, named 'Kingda Ka' that is set to open at Six Flags Great Adventure in New Jersey in the spring of 2005. This coaster will beat the current world record-holder, Top-thrill Dragster at Cedar Point."

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  1. In case your not from jersey by digitalgimpus · · Score: 3, Funny

    we call it 'great adventure', *not* 'six flags' like the rest of the world.

    Why? Because we freaken like it like that... got it?

    1. Re:In case your not from jersey by Loligo · · Score: 2, Insightful


      Which only makes sense, since the only PROPER "Six Flags" is in Arlington, Texas.

      Though I guess since Astroworld was bought out by the Six Flags folks... well, hell.

      -l

  2. Actually... by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Funny

    Worlds highest ride is Taipei 101 (also known as Taipei Financial Center), but you only get the ride when an eartquake hits Taiwan.

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  3. Name by MikeMacK · · Score: 2, Funny

    Kingda Ka? When did they start using pig latin to name rollercoasters?

    1. Re:Name by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Funny
      Kingda Ka? When did they start using pig latin to name rollercoasters?

      Turned down names:

      Zippy-poo

      Baghdad Dive-bomber

      Tip Top Gun

      Indiana Jones and the Temple of Hollywood Finances Explained Ride

      The Bridge of Death (What color are we going to paint it? Blue! No! Green!-AAAAHHH!!!)

      DotCom Bubble Bust Ride of Doom

      Campaign 2004

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    2. Re:Name by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Funny
      I actually think the name is used in some hip-hop song.

      Seeing those White Tigers and seeing the name 'Spine Snapper' reminds me of Siegfried and Roy and what the tiger did to Roy.

      Yo, ride the sky,
      What da heck,
      When you done,
      She bite yo neck

      these guys know how to treat a woman

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  4. Short Ride by john82 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Take a look at the "Virtual Tour". Certainly it appears to be a high peak. The faux clouds are a nice touch. But the ride amounts to one climb, a twist as you come down and a small hill as you return to the station. Might be less than 25 seconds once you sit in the car.

    How does that compare to other high rides?

    1. Re:Short Ride by C_Kode · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's like Mr. Freeze at Six Flags over Texas, (and St. Louis) but Mr Freeze is better as it not only does more, after going forward it returns in reverse on the same track. It does 0-70 in 3.8 seconds via linear induction motors.

      Here is a photo (it's the light blue one, Batman is yellow one behind it)
      http://www.coastergallery.com/2001/Freeze01.jpg

    2. Re:Short Ride by Achoi77 · · Score: 2, Funny
      It does 0-70 in 3.8 seconds via linear induction motors.

      Not to be a downer on rollercoasters, but man! acceleration like that just can't be good for you.

      One of my friends got on a ride that did something similar, like 0-70 in 4 or something. The entire ride was about 10 seconds long (seriously). She doesn't remember any of it, because she BLACKED OUT due to the acceleration. Man was she pissed! Waiting in line for 3 1/2 hours just to ride something for 10 seconds AND HAVE NO MEMORY OF IT AT ALL.

      Plus about 5 mins after the ride she said she had the worst headache.

      What ever happened to big rolling hills and loops? Those are always good.

    3. Re:Short Ride by imsabbel · · Score: 2, Funny

      All you can eat is a VERY flexible description if you are in a place with many rollercoasters...
      Perhaps they should offer "all that can stay inside" meals...

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    4. Re:Short Ride by Billy+the+Mountain · · Score: 2, Funny

      I can just imagine it now:

      "Just looking at Kingda Ka makes me feal queazy!"

      "I want to ride on something more exciting than Kingda Ka!"

      "I'm running out of cash!"

      BTM

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    5. Re:Short Ride by agallagh42 · · Score: 2, Informative

      "If it is like the Top Thrill, I think it is kind of a waste of time. Even for its intensity, I expect a few minutes worth of a ride for waiting a freaking hour in the blazing sun, not to mention the hours it takes just to get to the park."

      I don't know. I drove for 6 hours from Toronto to Sandusky on the second weekend of Top Thrill's existance. We waited in line for 5 hours, for a ride that lasted 26 seconds (I timed it). They were still working some bugs out, and it shut down several times, but we persevered.

      I still think it was worth it. What a rush! Millennium Force is also an incredible ride. Totally worth the trip.

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  5. Translation of name by StefanJ · · Score: 4, Funny

    Kingda Ka is Hyperborean for "Spine snapper."

    Or, if pronounced with emphasis on the "da," its Lemurean for "Flinger of Unrestrained Toddlers."

    1. Re:Translation of name by ackthpt · · Score: 2
      Or, if pronounced with emphasis on the "da," its Lemurean for "Flinger of Unrestrained Toddlers."

      On a positive note, you won't have to blow your nose for about a month, as it'll fling unrestrained boogers, too.

      Ok, let's start the pool -- How long before Cedar Point outdoes this?

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  6. You pervert! by Geburah · · Score: 5, Funny

    You get it on with your partner. There is anxious anticipation as you start. You start slowly, climbing your way to the top.

    There are smiles exchanged, and giggles, maybe even caressing or hand holding. The excitement builds and builds. It nears the top. The expressions on faces become wondrous and excited. Then as it hits the pinnacle, things move very fast. There's a quick motion, the heart races with complete excitement; faces are all in total pleasure. Arms are flailing, heads are bouncing, and there is some noticeable screaming going on.

    The rest of the ride is up and down, twisting and turning, lots of bumping, sometimes in the light, sometimes in the dark, sometimes there's a surprise, and sometimes it becomes all too familiar but always...always...at the end, there's a big smile on the face, hair is all messed up and everyone is talking about how great it is while some of them say, "I wanna go again"...

    What am I? The Kingda Ka Roller Coaster of course! Sheesh... You pervert.

  7. How UNORIGINAL by Shivetya · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Gee, lets see how unoriginal we can get. While I applauded Cedar Point for their interpetation of a "RollerCoaster" I don't think the term fits these beasts.

    To me a Rollercoaster involves more than going up one incline, no matter how tall. It is all about the flow of the machine. Some wild machines are just a royal pain to ride as they thrash or feel disjointed from seemingly "just thrown in" hills and curves.

    The Great American Scream machine in Six Flags over Georgia is representative of a classic rollercoaster. CedarPoint has many REAL roller coasters. These new things remind me of railed free fall machines. Boring...

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    1. Re:How UNORIGINAL by ShadowBlasko · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I wanted to mod you up, but I can't do that and post to the thread under my account.

      I'm pretty sure I have ridden The Beast more than anyone should ever dream of. I was a "green sheet" (essentially operator qualified) on that ride for a couple years, and rode at *least* 5 times daily.

      I've ridden coasters in just about every east coast park, and I honestly have to say that The Beast is the greatest wooden coaster there ever *will* be.

      The reason for that is because, during the construction, the designers and builders kept adding things and lengthening it, and Kings Island (screw you, Paramount!) just kept throwing money at it. It was designed before everything had to be perfect on some computer before the first board was cut. If the final cost (before the 1990's rebuild of the entry and station) were on an invoice before construction actually started, it would NEVER have been greenlighted.

      It was true "seat of your pants" design by the best in the business, with little or no limits on the money.

      NOTHING... and I mean nothing measured up to riding riding The Beast before it was "semi-tamed" by additional trim brakes in the late 80's. If you rode it in the rain, when the trim brakes didn't work, you would get that full 74MPH whiplash speeds through the back corkscrew... and honestly think the train would derail.

      The Beast has many many moods. Depending on the temperature, humidity, time of day... every ride is somewhat different. Sometimes smooth, sometimes boucing you all over. It is truly, IMHO, the best of the best in wooden coasters.

      Son of Beast is an intense ride, and Cedar Point has many great coasters as well, but The Beast rules.

      Ohio Coasters Rock!

      (Proud ACE Member, and ex Beast, Racer, Vortex, and Cobra operator)

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  8. Weightlessness by yo303 · · Score: 2, Informative
    The coaster [...] shoots over a 129-foot hill, which the company says will make riders feel weightless.
    I'm not so sure that weightlessness is something that should be mass-marketed. They don't call it the Vomit Comet for nothing.

    If you go on this thing, look around at the other people, and choose somewhere smart to sit. See video here while it lasts.

    yo.

  9. Re:And this is relevant to /. readers because... by Chrax · · Score: 2, Funny

    Because geeks care about more than just the new Linux kernel. Yes this may be a bit on the mundane side, but hey, roller coasters are cool.

  10. Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's over in about 50 seconds. Wow! It really is just like sex!

    1. Re:Wow! by Mulletproof · · Score: 2, Funny

      Your sex is very very sad then Al Bundy.

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  11. i've riden rides like this by jeffy124 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've riden a ride like the one buing built. It's the kind that uses a horizontal track to send the train into the first incline. Believe me, there's nothing like it. One I rode (StormRunner (?), Hershey Park, PA) went from a near dead stop to 70+ MPH in under 3 seconds, into a 90 degree first climb 12 stories high. You move so fast your eyes water from all the wind whipping past you. So fast the forces throw your head back against the headrest. So fast, it's all done with in about 27 seconds.

    One big word of advice if you ride something like this: Before the ride starts, keep your head against the headrest. Your neck will thank you.

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  12. Issues resolved? by Rew190 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Top Thrill Dragster had an unfortunately large amount of down-time (mostly due to the cables and hydraulic system). Last year, when it premiered, it was down for nearly an entire month. It actually became prevalent enough that the ride's running status was put online. TTD is an amazing ride, though, and downtime was to be expected on a ride whose design was revolutionary.

    It'll be interesting to see if Intamin has worked the bugs out of this one; I'm sure they've learned much from Dragster.

    At any rate, it's very exciting to see the 500 mark being approached so rapidly!

  13. Totally weak by pr0vidence · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This ride is completely weak in that it is almost an exact copy of Cedar Point's ride. only 8 mph faster (ooohh) and 30 odd feet higher (aahh). I went to Cedar Point a few weeks back and passed on the dragster. You are literally on the ride for 30 seconds, if that. And this is what you get for standing in line for an hour? two? I think not. We opted to go on Millenium Force and that was much more of a ride, it topped out at a "lousy" 390 feet, but the ride lasted for nearly 2 minutes. No thanks 6 flags, I'm gonna pass.

  14. Re:In case you are... by Achoi77 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I've been to Six Flags New Jersey many, many times. Probably more then most people that live in New Jersey. And nobody called it "Great Adventure." Everyone calls it "Six Flags."

    That's strange, because when I was at Rutgers (about an hour away from Jacksonville where the park is), everybody I know of called it nothing but Great Adventure. Plus it a number of students just called it GA (as in 'Gee Ay') for short and everybody knew what they were talking about.

    Of course, every summer a number of students would buy a season pass and go everyday untill they were bored to tears of it.

    It looks like GA is getting some new rides, which is good, especially since rides like Robin was kind of short (as in 10 seconds!! WTF). Too bad longer rides are not able to justify the price it costs to build for profit. *sigh*

    It's been a number of years since I've been to GA, but I seem to recall they had a little paintball field nearby (which a number of us geeks also used to frequent), but that's getting offtopic. :-)

  15. Cedar Point by RoadWarriorX · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's sometimes great living in the Northern Ohio area. Cedar Point is the greatest park EVER. With great, world-record rides like the Magnum XL200 (puny by today's standards), Millenium Force, and the Top-Thrill Dragster, how can anyone really do better here in the U.S.?

    I do have a concern though. With the Dragster, the ride uses a cable driven mechanism to pull the car at 120 MPH. There was an incident this past summer where the cable shredded and shards of cable covered in hot oil injured a many of the riders. The local news coverage showed people having first-degree burns and embedded wire pieces on their face and arms (yikes!). I agree that this is an isolated incident, but this ride has been closed a lot because of the high winds from Lake Erie. Being 420-something feet, I would not like to be stuck on top of the hill for any reason. So, I hope the designers are prepared for this new ride.

    1. Re:Cedar Point by pegr · · Score: 2, Informative

      I was surprised to learn that TTD actually uses cables. Here is a good rundown of the tech of TTD.

    2. Re:Cedar Point by DigitalDemon617 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've actually seen empty cars get stuck at the top of the hill, then go either forward or backward about 15 seconds later. I saw a full car with people on it make it almost the full way up the hill and then go back down the launch side backwards. Not to mention the cable snap problem. Those problems and the fact that it has been closed for more time than it has been running have kept me from riding it. I'm sure it's a great ride when it works, but you won't see me riding it.

  16. Good, but not as fun... by DroopyStonx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    These rides are more like "quick thrills" than a traditional roller coaster.

    I had a season pass to Cedar Point last year and went quite a few times, and while the Top Thrill Dragster was fun, it doesn't compare to their other tall coasters, Millennium Force and Magnum.

    Reason being, as you ride to the top of the MF or the Magnum, you anticipate dropping straight down 300/200 feet and there's more suspense.

    With Top Thrill Dragster, the ride is seriously over before you know it. It's much harder to enjoy because it goes so fast. Don't get me wrong, it is fun, but calling these the fastest/tallest coasters is like saying the Ripcord (bungee/slingshot type ride) is the highest ride ever made. Yeah, technically it is, but it shouldn't count.

    I'd much rather ride to the top of a 400/500 foot hill while anticipating the drop back down - seems much more thrilling.

    It also sucks waiting 2/3 hours in line for a 10 second ride ;)

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  17. Top Thrill - Worth the Wait (kind of) by ytsejammer · · Score: 2, Informative

    I had an opportunity to go to Cedar Point over the summer and ride TTD, and to be honest, the fact that it shuts down on occasion worked to our advantage. First, we waited in line for about an hour before it broke down. They said it would be a long wait and encouraged us to visit the rest of the park. We did, but once we saw it was back up, we came back. When we got back in line, it looked long as hell; however, since they were obviously expecting more problems, they intentionally kept the line short, but made it look long (the snake line is actually hidden on the other side of the coaster, so when you get in line, the most rationale thought is to assume that if you are one one side of the coaster, the other side must be full). Needless to say, we waited less than an hour the first time, and less than 45 minutes the second time. Both times, well worth the wait. It is a short ride, but when you get shot off the first time, the thrill is amazing. Also, definitely a lot less scary the second time!

  18. what if 'hydraulic launch' fails to achieve ... by polished+look+2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    the needed velocity to put the cart over the top of the hump - say if something goes wrong during the 'launch' of the vehicle? What type of safeguards are there to prevent a catastrophe?

    Lets say the vehicle must achieve 115 mph to reach the summit but during the 'launch' the hydraulic mechanism fails and the vehicle hits only 110 mph - the vehicle will go near the top of the summit but then WILL START GOING BACKWARDS - and then what? Do they have some kind of track they can run off onto (remember that the seats are not meant for this).

    Any ideas on how best to deal with this?

    1. Re:what if 'hydraulic launch' fails to achieve ... by gcaseye6677 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Cedar Point's dragster was designed with this possibility in mind, and it does happen every 20 times or so (more often on windy days). There is a braking system built into the track on both sides, so if the ride gets to the top and falls backwards, it will be stopped and return to the launch platform, where they will try again. If it fails a second time, I believe they will remove a couple of people to make it lighter. So basically, if you're on a car that fails to make it over the hill, you get to experience the launch thrill all over again (2 for the price of one, in a way).

    2. Re:what if 'hydraulic launch' fails to achieve ... by Frappuccino · · Score: 4, Interesting

      At cedar point i've seen the car not make it all the way up... it just rolls back and tries again... They have a sign in the line that says that it's normal and just happens sometimes. I believe they actually changed the cars to hold 4 less people than originally because it had problems making it up the hill at first. There are no hydroulics to aid it up the hill after the launch... it goes from 0-120 mph in like 2 seconds. You sit still, the car rolls back a little, and POW!!! You're 420 feet up in the air, and it's a smooooth ride. Doesn't last long enough, but it's wild. Going that fast is actually cooler than going up in the air. Now if they just used the same technology to build a flat ride around the perimeter of the park that let you go 200 mph around cedar point in a minute and a half... now THAT would be cool. No hills or anything, just a smooth, fast ride.

    3. Re:what if 'hydraulic launch' fails to achieve ... by Rew190 · · Score: 4, Informative

      You're talking about "rollbacks." They happen a lot on hot days and cold days. If, for some reason, you're next in line and Dragster doesn't fire any trains off for at least ten or fifteen minutes, you are VERY likely to experience a rollback.

      If it fails a second time, I believe they will remove a couple of people to make it lighter.

      Nope, when a train launches and rolls back, TTD simply raises the juice a bit until it clears. It's not really known how fast it can really go, but the juice on it is NEVER turned up anywhere near the maximum. I've seen it go over 130.

  19. Re:In case you are... by nuggetman · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's strange, because when I was at Rutgers (about an hour away from Jacksonville where the park is), everybody I know of called it nothing but Great Adventure.

    There's no Jacksonville in NJ. The town is just called Jackson.

    The More You Know (TM)

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