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Tecmo Wins Naked Kasumi Case

An anonymous reader writes "The Japanese supreme court has upheld a ruling that software company West Side's 'naked Kasumi hack' for the PS2 version of Dead Or Alive 2 violates Tecmo's copyrights. West Side has been ordered to pay around 2 million yen in damages."

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  1. 2 million yen by qqtortqq · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thats what, $10 american?

    1. Re:2 million yen by Stormwatch · · Score: 2, Informative

      ¥ 2.000.000 = U$ 18.018

    2. Re:2 million yen by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      That should be a 18 thousand I know you english use . to seperate your digits, but its confusing!

    3. Re:2 million yen by Bios_Hakr · · Score: 2, Informative

      1000 yen is roughly $10. I think the actual exchange rate varies from 100 yen to the dollar to 125 yen to the dollar.

      Once it hit the 100yen point, the Government of Japan dropped to a 0% federal interest rate to try and stem the drop, so it shouldn't drop any lower.

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    4. Re:2 million yen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, it ' s confusing.

    5. Re:2 million yen by fbjon · · Score: 1

      Not only the english use period, actually..

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    6. Re:2 million yen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I know you english use . to seperate your digits


      We do?
    7. Re:2 million yen by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      The fact that GOV-JAPAN had to lower their rates to 0% is very, very bad. It means the goverment has next to nothing left that in can do to jump start the economy.

    8. Re:2 million yen by HitByASquirrel · · Score: 1

      Hah! If only our economy was doing that well!

    9. Re:2 million yen by nelsonal · · Score: 1

      Usually they use US treasury buying to try to limit exchange rate movements.

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    10. Re:2 million yen by nkodengar · · Score: 1

      As far as I know, we use commas to seperate the thousands in numbers e.g., £1,000,000

    11. Re:2 million yen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Germans use full stops (periods) to separate their digits. Brits don't.

    12. Re:2 million yen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the US currency increased in value 1000 fold, it would not be good, it would be an economic disaster. Rapid currency changes in either direction are a BAD THING.

    13. Re:2 million yen by Weirdofreak · · Score: 1

      We do?

      I always use commas, if anything. Periods are for decimals.

    14. Re:2 million yen by PhilHibbs · · Score: 1
      the Government of Japan dropped to a 0% federal interest rate
      Japan isn't a federation.
  2. I think I speak for all Slashdot when I say... by gasaraki · · Score: 2, Funny

    Link to patch?

    1. Re:I think I speak for all Slashdot when I say... by Pinkoir · · Score: 1

      Umm....what kind of "patch" are you talking about given the context of this story?

      -Pinkoir

    2. Re:I think I speak for all Slashdot when I say... by ElPresPufferfish · · Score: 1

      Umm....what kind of "patch" are you talking about given the context of this story?

      Uh...the "West Side's 'naked Kasumi hack'" maybe?

    3. Re:I think I speak for all Slashdot when I say... by black+mariah · · Score: 4, Funny

      The birds cried out in terror and fled from their nests as the joke went sonic-booming over ElPresPufferfish's head...

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    4. Re:I think I speak for all Slashdot when I say... by PhotoBoy · · Score: 1

      Check out the Ninja Hacker forums here. They have nude patches and instructions for Dead or Alive Xtreme Volleyball and DOA3. You need a chipped X-Box to use the patches, they have tons of other clothing patches too.

      I hope Tecmo don't sue them if they see this link... :(

    5. Re:I think I speak for all Slashdot when I say... by JDWTopGuy · · Score: 1

      Re your sig, you forgot to say "fuck" a lot. This was a great disappointment.

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  3. Copyrights by Taulin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Basically, anything that changes the original form of a 'piece' is considered violation of copyright. I have even read a case where a school dressed up a statue and the artist sued the school and won. That being said, I need to figure out where to get this hack.

    1. Re:Copyrights by Taulin · · Score: 1

      This ruling is over a hacked/changed version. Gameshark manipulates the game, but is not changing the game's data itself. In my interpretation, placing hats on statues and changing files is manipulating the object. Gameshark is more like wearing rose tinted glasses.

  4. Screenshots by RotJ · · Score: 4, Informative

    The first thing any mentally balanced /.er would do if they've never heard about this hack before, is to search for screenshots. To save you the trouble, click here and scroll towards the bottom. It's basically the same as the Sims blur removing nudity hack: Barbie doll anatomy whoopdeedoo. Bloodrayne 2 will probably have a naked mode built in.

    1. Re:Screenshots by Starsmore · · Score: 1
      Considering they made one for October's issue of Playboy? Prolly.



      Darkwatch, too, which is another game I need to get.

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  5. Gameshark by RotJ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does this ruling mean that everybody's now free to sue Gameshark for violating their copyrights?

    1. Re:Gameshark by WiredOni · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not in the US, since game genie and similar cheat devices have been ruled legal.

      Don't have any clue about how this will affect Japan, since these cheat devices do have other purposes then making characters nude. Hopefully the ruling won't go too far as to ban or severely limit such devices.

  6. Worth ¥2 Million? by Bloodmoon1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not exactly work/school safe, but here's what's apparently worth ¥2 million.

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    1. Re:Worth ¥2 Million? by Neon+Spiral+Injector · · Score: 1

      Who knew? Tina is a bleach blond.

    2. Re:Worth ¥2 Million? by TheLoneDanger · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not exactly work/school safe, but here's what's apparently worth ¥2 million.

      Actually, those shots are from DOA Xtreme Beach Volleyball, for the Xbox. The lawsuit was about the PS2 version of DOA 2. Also, IIRC, all they did was alter the memory card data a bit to tell the game to mess with the costume system a bit. If you've ever played DOA games, they all feature changeable costumes for the characters (some as unlockable bonuses). I think that the change in the memory card data just unlocked something that was ALREADY ON THE DISC, just substituting a skin that is on the disc for one of the costume options or something. There is a scene in the opening cinematic of some versions of DOA2 that have a nude, nippleless Kasumi. I am not sure if that is what was unlocked by the changed memory card data.

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    3. Re:Worth ¥2 Million? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never played the first DOA game, eh? Good for you (seriously)....DOA series is trash.

  7. Original court case decided years ago... by Inoshiro · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.gamepro.com/gamepro/international/games /news/26063.shtml

    And I quote (posted 9th of March, 2002):
    "The case, which pitted Tecmo against Japanese software company Westside, involved a tool included in one of Westside's CDs that let users hack up their DOA2 save games to alter the characters' clothing."

    This was just the appeal.

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  8. parody law? by lawngnome · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is there not a parody law in japan? I understand that certain factors determine if it is infact a parody, such as booble.com using googles trademark to make money in a deceptive way.

    1. Re:parody law? by (SM)+Spacemonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

      I am thinking we define Parody differently. Parody is for comic effect. Laughing is the last thing on my mind when I see naked women, though it appears to be the first thing on their mind when they see naked me.

    2. Re:parody law? by mausmalone · · Score: 1

      Even though it doesn't fall under parody, how is this a violation of copyright? If they actually made the models themselves (and from the poor quality of the DOA2 models, that's pretty possible), then they haven't copied anything. the textures are most definitely original. If you could make it so that you (a) have your own model and textures, and (b) copy the facial data from the user's own CD/DVD, I think you could easily win this case.

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  9. I don't know.... by dacarr · · Score: 4, Funny
    The idea of seeing Kasumi Tendo naked just kind of seems incredibly wrong.

    Of course, that's just me.

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    1. Re:I don't know.... by TikiTDO · · Score: 1

      I don't know, I'd really have to disagree.

  10. I think there is more to it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is more to it then just beeing pissed of about an unauthorised modification. The age rating is based on the fact that no actual nudity is in the game, there is always the danger of the game beeing reclassified as AO (Adult Only). That would be the death of the sales for the game, no major chain is going to stock it, and they can only advertise in "specialist" magazines.

    The new Leisure Suit Larry game (as crap as it is, let all the people who worked on it suffer a painful death) went through a few hoops to avoid the AO rating.

    1. Re:I think there is more to it... by 10101001+10101001 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Um, with that logic every game would have to be rated AO because there's nothing stopping someone from drawing pictures of naked people and gluing it to the game's dvd/gamecube disc sleeve. Look at "Animal Crossing" or any other game where you enter in input (though "Animal Crossing" happens to try to prevent you from using various "naughty" words like bitch). All Tecmo would have to do is not pro-advertise the feature and write how they were upset/offended/concerned with what the other company did. The whole lawsuit is just overblown bullshit. Or it was just a way to make money while publicizing the hack to get more people to buy the game..

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  11. "Dignity?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't know the accuracy of the write up, but you have got to love the line "Tecmo finally has the promise of reparations for what it has always viewed as a violation of Kasumi's dignity" if it is true.

    Come on Tecmo, the game is built around the fan service and you know it. Some people might differ, but I say the main reason that the game sells is the bouncing breasts and skimpy clothing. Without the fan service the game itself probably wouldn't have lasted as long as it has.

    So are you going to go after fan artists now? Start making arrests of groups at Doujin conventions? There are also games involving your characters in sexual situations. Doesn't sound like you are doing much to protect the "dignity" of your IP, can't someone think of poor Itagaki's children! All he did was give them big bouncing boobies and put them in semi-revealing costumes, but he is a decent man protective of his daughters and would never have them appear in the nude!

    Anyway, here is hoping people make some great hacks for DOA: UE or what ever it is called. Tecmo's legal threats *really* put a stop to all those DOA:BV hacks. Maybe they should just give up and do the porn game that they really want to make, then people wouldn't feel the need to do these hacks.

  12. I don't know..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I really don't see stuff being reclassified. Has any of the DOA games been reclassified as AO? DOA:VB has had these hacks out for a while, and it still is rated mature from what I can tell.

    Same thing can be said about PC games, lots of those have easy to use nude hacks and those that do haven't been reclassified. The Sims and The Sims 2 are still rated teen, despite the popular nude hacks that remove the blur and the in game restrictions.

    I don't really see any threat unless they purposely put in the nudity in themselves. If they have a cheat code or purposely put in a way to get nudity (i.e. something like collect all the coconuts you find), and don't disclose it to those giving the game its rating(T, M, etc), then they have something to worry about.

    The only other thing that they could worry about is a bug removing some textures, which probably won't get them in too much trouble since it seems they don't put AO type details on their charter models.

  13. Weird by bobstevens_took_my_n · · Score: 5, Insightful
    This was just a Gameshark mod of the PS2 version of DOA2 that has been around *forever*. Some models were still on the disk from being used in cinematics (including a non-explicitly nude Kasumi for the intro cinematic). Some people found a Gameshark code that would let you use some of these models in-game.

    I guess this Japanese company just repackaged the game with the Gameshark hack builtin and started selling it. Clearly illegal by any stretch of anyone's imagination, and not too bright on the part of consumers either, when they could have gotten the same thing by buying an official copy and a Gameshark.

    1. Re:Weird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I guess this Japanese company just repackaged the game with the Gameshark hack builtin and started selling it."
      Well according to the linked article, they did not. But for the sake of argument, let's pretend.

      Some time ago, there was a slashdot story about movies that are redesigned by a company to be watchable by kids. Not only do they remove stuff, they also modify. They were sued (don't remember what came out of that).

      Modcompany buys X number of games or movies from creating company. Modcompany sells X number of that stuff in a modified version.
      There is not only ZERO monetary DAMAGE to the creating company in such a case, in fact they get EXTRA MONEY from people who would not buy the vanilla version.

      "Clearly illegal by any stretch of anyone's imagination"
      As long as it is marked clear that the customer does not get the vanilla version (and that the guarantee from the creating company does not apply), it should be legal.

  14. Wait a minute! by rubberbando · · Score: 1

    Basically, anything that changes the original form of a 'piece' is considered violation of copyright. I have even read a case where a school dressed up a statue and the artist sued the school and won.

    What about all those DJs that mix different songs together and call it their own original creation? Would they be liable in the same way?

    What about people who do photomanips? Are they at risk to be sued over copyright infringment?

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    1. Re:Wait a minute! by jkeyes · · Score: 1

      What about all those DJs that mix different songs together and call it their own original creation? Would they be liable in the same way?

      I guess you haven't been paying attention reciently! A federal judge in cincinnati ruled that sampling (which is what you are refering to) is illegal and violates copyright law First Link from Google News about the story

  15. Cool! by Flyboy+Connor · · Score: 1
    I would like to win a naked Kasumi case!

    Let's think, what would I put in it...

    1. Re:Cool! by DigitumDei · · Score: 1

      Thank god I'm not the only one who read it that way.