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Stern Will Jump To Sirius In 2006
UnanimousCoward writes "Howard Stern announced it on his current radio show, and several feeds including this CNET article are reporting that Stern has signed a multi-million dollar multi-year contract with Sirius Satellite Radio starting in January, 2006. As I've watched technology grow from the time I was listening to Stern in the eighties, I can't wait to hook into a shockjock-timeshifted-podcast..."
And this involves our rights online how? Even with the censorship of Clear Channel and the FCC.....
We need a simple "Rights" section, although I don't know if this even qualifies for rights period....
Just news...
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and this is YRO... how?
I can see the FCC connection, but I doubt that was his main motivation when the words "multi-million dollar" are used.
Howard Stern's radio show drops 80% of his male audience ages 18-35.
I'm thinking this is because you can't really articule a 'blur'
This may be a good thing for Sirius, but it seems to have made the stock market go stupid. The price of Sirius stock -- already overpriced IMHO -- jumped a billion dollars on the news. Later it dropped to half a billion. but that's still nuts. The Motley Fool did an article on it. I don't care for Howard Stern, but even if you think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, what could he possibly say on the radio that would increase the value of the company by that much?
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Howard stern occasionally has a funny moment, but 99% of the time hs is like listening to a 13 year old ramble with his buds like a horny teenager that just discovered his puberty...
he is just mostly stupid...
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XM signed Opie and Anthony two months ago. Stern loathes competition, plus that put Sirius in more of a desperate position at the bargaining table.
I'm going to assume that it's because ClearChannel has stake in XM
With the recent announcements of big name talk show hosts including stern going to sirius I'm becoming a little irritated with XM's love fest with the automobile industry. I cant get a Sirius module for my stereo so it's all intergrated and would be forced to buy a stand alone unit to plug into the aux jack..
However this is good news for sirius.
...I'll be using XM then. Shock jocks like howard give free speech a bad name...
For all you reactionaries out there, no, i would never suggest strict censorship over stern, nor anyone else. Now getting him cancelled because it's a stupid show, that i'd be behind that all the way.
Thta's your right as a consumer, go ahead and exercise it.
I expect you're the type who thinks that ANYTHING he doesn't like is stupid. And the millions who make Stern #1 in almost every market across the US, they must be stupid blue collar shitheads, right?
You know, it's idiotic shit like this that makes me nuts about America. Just because you don't like something doesn't make it offensive, doesn't mean it should be outlawed, and doesn't mean it's "stupid." You should be RALLYING for Stern to stay on the radio because it's YOUR RIGHTS as an American you're forfeiting otherwise.
I don't condone abortion, but I'm pro-choice.
I don't condone flag burning, but I certainly support the right to do it.
Catch my drift, Mr. Didactic?
Please don't feed Howard's ego. He *IS* the one following suit. Opie and Anthony, who were kicked off the air 2 years ago, just came back and started their show up again as of 3 days ago, with XM radio (after their old contract expired). Stern did this because he's afraid because they're up in the morning now against him, and will have reach to all markets in the nation. Yes, he has a larger listenership than O&A did for their afternoon show at its peak, but they were growing rapidly, and now they are in the morning spot.
Anyway, I resent Howard Stern pretending that he's the big innovator here. I'm sure he's been thinking about this and discussing it for some time, but he is following on the heels of O&A, realizing that their move to satellite made a lot of sense and not wanting to compete in the morning shock jock market from a a hampered position with the FCC breathing down his neck.
What the fuck does this have to do with the parent comment? Whether or not you enjoy listening to Howard Stern should have no impact on whether his show should be censored or not.
We're talking about freedom of speech, not the freedom to prevent others from enjoying something that you happen to dislike.
Of course, if by "over there", you mean australia, china, or europe, then you all have your own little gov't censorship issues to deal with, don't you?
Stern is jumping to satellite because the FCC and its christian corporate masters hounded him off FM. So much for free speech - satellite is pay-only. And if you think pay-as-in-beer guarantees free speech, ask the cable channels the FCC is now illegally enforcing into their jurisdictional scope.
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I just find him too mean to be honest. It seems a lot of his humour comes from bullying people, like the mentally challenged, who can't really defend themselves. That's just my impression anyway. (Not that that means I think we should censor him or anything.)
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Hold on a second.
I don't know if you mean US thing - are you Brit with the toilet humor; Russian with the outlawed gay humor; Australia with thumb up the crock's butt humor, and yes I am generalizing as the as you did because I don't really know each culture's humor - Howard has just a different humor. Like it or not it's the way it is.
However, you're missing a more important decision. Howard has been severally fined from the FCC and decided to leave over the air broadcast - it huge, go look at Siruis stock - it went up 18% today. He is leaving what he thinks to be censorship from OTA broadcast in favor of freedom to do as he wishes on the show. We'll see how it pans out in 2005.
Since the republicans control congress, expect to see "child protection" legislation in the next year or so to give the FCC the power to regulate cable.
Remember that in November you have a chance to try and change that.
You've got to be kidding me. Every day he brings a female onto the program, has her strip down and then ooohs and ahhhs over her perfect body while everyone is sitting there wondering wtf she looks like BECAUSE HE IS ON THE RADIO. When he's not doing that he'll play some idiotically simple game with homeless people or retards, take calls from his ass-kissing audience, or spend an hour bitching about how Bush and the FCC are killing America. This is his shtick and it's fucking tired. Aside from the Bush-bashing (he was pro-Bush until the Janet Jackson affair, then he flip-flopped and became a Bush hater for some reason), this is how his program has operated for years.
Opie and Anthony on the other hand used to be a breath of fresh air and their interviews were entertaining. O&A is what Howard Stern USED to be before he went soft in the mid 1990's. I wish they were still on real radio though as I enjoyed listening to them during my afternoon commutes, but alas Sex for Sam killed them off. RIP O&A, and Fuck XM and Sirius.
Wanring: Rant ahead. Mod me down if you like, but it doesn't change the facts.
/.ers tend to protect their freedoms, witness the reaction to the PATRIOT Act.
It's really sad for me to read this. Not the article - the comments.
Slashdot peeps generally tend to be well educated and be very possessive of their rights. American
But any self-respecting American with any love for the bill of rights and their own liberties SHOULD be in support of Howard Stern. He embodies the freedom we founded our country on - he takes it to an extreme, which makes a point: we exercise freedom to different degrees because we are the land of the free. Well, were, before this administration.
Anyway, the saddest part are the comments that say "I never listened to Stern and think he's the scum of the earth," which is roughly equavalent to the ignorance of saying "I don't know any black people, but I dislike them all."
Listen and make up your own mind. Don't be worthless simps who THINK they know what Stern is about. I've listened to Stern for years. He pushes the boundary of what can be said on radio, but in ANY dorm in my college you could've found worse language every single night. The show is harmless and it's enjoyed by millions. Be a responsible parent to your kids and we won't have to scrub the airwaves and forfeit our freedoms.
My biggest issue with Howard Stern is that he is really very intelligent but still chooses to do his show they way he does. Perhaps, he is simply captializing on the the "When Animals Attack" crowd and doesn't consider his own show as entertainment. That really only requires stooping to the level of a common politician or used car salesman, if you think about it.
-- "Makes Little Debbie look like a pile of puke!" - Moe Szyslak
Look, what REALLY made Stern popular was the curious balance he had between being married and constantly tempted; between the FCC and finding funny and unique ways to get around the rules. What has happened now is that all of what made him a unique curiousity is going away. His indulgence is going to ruin him and cause him to lose an audience.
His marriage is done, and for most of his listeners, sex isn't much of a mystery anymore. This was one item that a lot of both women and men admired him for - the fact that he didn't give in to temptation. That was the beginning of the end IMHO.
This gig on Sirius will probably start out dirty and 'controversial', and may even gain a few million listeners, but in the end it won't matter. It won't be censored - it won't be 'edgy' because without his fight against the station or the FCC, the REAL story behind Stern's success fades.
But go ahead, buy some Sirius stock...
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I could care less where stern goes. I don't like his garbage or anything he has to say. Yes, unlike some, I have listened to his show to make my own judgement on it's contents, unlike a lot of people who will complain about something, but never read/saw/heard the source. That being said, I could care less WHAT he says, but I care greatly that he has the RIGHT to say it. He is simply exercising his RIGHTS of freedom of speech. I am exercising my freedoms by turning him off. I don't understand why people think we have to be "protected" from acts such as stearn. The government thinks that the bulk of the populus is so stupid that they need to be coddled. Screw that. Once you make a law that ucerpts(sp) freedom of speech, you do the same thing that some have done with the 2nd amendment. Ok, ban certain words, then a few years later, ban a few more that are "just like" those that we banned earlier and so on. It CLEARLY states in the First amendment: "Congress shall make NO LAW........" how hard is that to understand? NO LAW, means NO LAW....period, end of arguement! Let Stearn or anyone like him do whatever he/she wants on the "commerical public" airways (within the bounds of the stations license), if there is a market, more power to him/her. If not, the show will wither and die. If he wants to move to satellite/subscription radio more power to him. His life, his rules...if the broadcaster doesn't like that, then he can find one who will allow his brand of humor. I won't object one little bit. I could care less. I don't like his "humor", but he's free to spew it.......I just turn off the radio or change the station. Doesn't bother me if he's on the radio...I won't be shocked, I don't need to be "protected". I just don't listen.
Maybe it's a USian thing, but over here most guys grow out of this sort of humour round about the time their balls drop, and most girls don't like it at all.
Benny Hill ??
The cable industry is big. BIG. Think comcast, think time/warner, these are media giants, and they make a lot of money on what some people consider porn.
The porn industry is huge; it may dwarf Hollywood, in fact.
So if congress comes sniffing around to "protect the children", they'll be doing so without their corporate overlords blessing, which means nothing will happen.
Its a side effect of rampant capitalism, but I love my porn!
I've heard him. In my opinion, he's purile, insulting, egotistical and in general, an ass.
Turns out, being an ass is legal. I don't like his show, I won't listen to him, but he ABSOLUTELY has the right to do what he does.
Isn't it funny how many people (not the poster I'm responding to, tho) only want freedom of speech as long as they agree with it?
"Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel." - A.B.
"In 1992 the FCC fined Infinity Broadcasting $600,000 after Stern discussed masturbating to a picture of Aunt Jemima."
"Is that better or worse than asking a Nigerian woman if she eats monkeys, or hosting a discussion of whether, when you have sex with a black woman, it smells like watermelons? I guess you can argue that point, but I'd be a lot more impressed with Stern's defenders if they'd quote these comments verbatim in the process of defending him."
Perhaps someday, you will be able to reach deep, deep down and find your inner adult.
Until then, do you feel that a naked person smeared with excrement and buggering a dead muskrat in public counts as Art, and should be protected as Speech? How about if the Artist writes poems on the muskrat's genetalia with a soldering iron?
That's all speech, right, and deserves to be protected?
I mean, I'm sure the people who wrote the bill of rights and the constitution wanted to make sure that muskrat-buggering soldering-ironers were protected from narrow minded repression by the sheeple of the future.
/sarcasm
> It's an actual, according-to-Hoyle, legitimate movie, and it gives you an insight into HS that you will not get just by listening to his show.
It's an actual, according-to-Stern, movie. He gave himself a blow job in a book and Hollywood thought it would be great to turn it into a movie. Self-serving isn't the beginning of what Private Parts was.
I hear that Larry Flynt is free speech's biggest hero too, at least according to another Hollywood movie.
You want to know who isn't running Firefox 2.x? They spell it "definately" and "rediculous".
Took an american studies class back in college, we did a critical comparison of 'Miss America' to 'The Great Gatsby'. While I agree with you Howard is capable of only one joke, I don't think you've found it yet.
The whole reason for people's interest in Howard is that he is always something other than how he presents himself. He comes off as a juvenile, but he is also a shrewd businessman. He comes off as a pervert, but he was married and had a family for over 20 years. He loves the low-brow humor, but also engages in serious political commentary. He provokes the worst from people, but also manages to keep a strong core audience. It's impossible to have a well-defined concept of him without contradiction, which is at the root of people's fascination with him.
People like to know who other people are, you like to be able to count on something from the people around you. Howard Stern's ability to change his persona is what makes him more than a crass boob joke, the joke is that he can be many different people and move so easily from one 'type' of person to the other.
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Stern has a ridiculous amount of fans. OnA aren't a threat to his listenership, and if they were and he was afraid of them, he wouldn't be taking himself out of the realm of free radio where he is most easily accessible.
don't think maybe he actually started talks with XM and Sirius a couple months ago
Not really, because he's been talking about satellite radio for over a year now. It's possible, but he had interest in it for a while. This didn't come out of nowhere and surprised no long-time listeners of the show.
think the fact that he announced it three days after their show started airing, and about 2 months after the O&A announcement was made by XM, is a complete coincidence?
That's possible, but what's the advantage of waiting until 3 days AFTER the show has been going, when the fans have probably already bought XM? Stern also said this morning that Sirius had him keep a lid on it and this was the first day he could say anything about it, so I think that was more of a function of Sirius than Stern trying to up-end OnA. We'll never know for sure, but I really don't think Stern's primary concerns are OnA. If you listen to the show, you'd know that Howard's been complaining about FCC/Clearchannel for at least all of last year. Howard said he signed up for 5 years because his beef is with Clearchannel and he wants to bury them, those seem to be his main motives. He could've retired, I mean it's not as if he wasn't rich enough already.
You don't think that his announcement was timed, probably at the behest of Sirius, to take the steam out of the O&A launch 3 days ago?
Yeah, definitely possible and I'm sure Sirius was at least conscious that could happen, but that would be their motives, not necessarily Stern's.
If you don't see the connection here, I'm not going to bother trying to explain it to you.
I'm not an idiot, you don't have to imply that I'm one for not agreeing with you. Again though, if you listened to the show, you'd know that Howard has been very passionate about being against Clearchannel, the FCC and the like; I mean at LEAST 20 minutes a day he's talking about it.
If OnA are Stern's target, he's done a DAMN good cover-up with it, having set the whole thing up for over a YEAR.
Stern has MANY more fans, anyhow, although OnA were doing well and picking up steam, they still weren't really in Stern's league. I don't think they were much competition. Stern is going after the airwaves controlled by what he views as the right-wing FCC. That's a mighty bigger fish.
(although it might drive a few away on idological grounds, but I doubt more than a handfull).
That's the problem with people around here. What's so hard about "Don't like it, change the bloody channel". And for all the won't-someone-please-think-of-the-children folks, enlighten your kids why you're changing the bloddy channel.
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He didn't really quit either. He just opted to not renew his contract.
I'm sure CBS/Viacom would have liked to keep him, but the FCC is driving him out of the public airwaves and making it very difficult to keep him around.
When he's not doing that he'll play some idiotically simple game with homeless people or retards,
Yeah, that stuff's wicked funny.
then he flip-flopped and became a Bush hater for some reason
Yeah, that whole Michael Powell turning the FCC into witch hunting club for daddy's friends bit had nothing to do with that.
P.S. Two points for use of the most overused, and fucking tired, term of 2004.
Gabriel Ricard
With the Democrats in power, you might see more sex on TV but you'll not be able to record any of it.
Don't forget whose camp the movie/tv media is firmly in.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
[quote]Stern has zero redeeming value. Period. You would be very hard pressed to find anyone who could argue shit like making fun of midgets and discussing breast implants with the intellect of a ten year old has "socially redeming value" - and I'll include Larry fucking Flynt in that group.[/quote]
Why does Stern have to have any redeeming value? His ratings and long term success legitimize his existence.
Stern's a martyr, regardless of you understanding or accepting the factors that made him one. There now exists a precedent that states that only the rich or those willing to cough up the money have access to entertainment that doesn't need to be classified as acceptable for the 'public good' or having 'legitimate redeeming traits'. Don't you get that? Don't you understand the implications of that? People who can't afford freedom aren't allowed the benefits of freedom.
Money used to be the deciding factor of what got on TV and radio. The concern used to be that the public could be bought and sold based on who was willing to spend the most $$$. Evil corps only presenting one side, or agendas, etc etc etc.
The government is now doing the exact same thing, but the currency isn't money rather it's mindset catering to those with similar agendas. Imposition of mores by a government is a scary thing. Much scarier to the 'greater good' than any of the crap Stern pulls on his show.