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Brain Controlled Computing a Reality

pchernyakov writes "Cyberkinetics Neurotechnology Systems told attendees at the American Academy of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation annual conference that a 25-year-old quadriplegic with wires run from 100 tiny sensors implanted in his brain and out to a computer can use his thoughts to control a computer well enough to operate a TV, open e-mail and play Pong with 70% accuracy."

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  1. What does Captain Pike think? by DeezyChee · · Score: 5, Funny

    *blink* *blink*

    1. Re:What does Captain Pike think? by networkBoy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Do I have to be disabled to get this?

      I've long held that if someone were to come to me with the offer to wire up a fibre interface to my brain I would be one of the first in line to get wetware / hybrid / augmented computing / whatever installed in my head.

      -nB

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    2. Re:What does Captain Pike think? by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think I'd be a late adopter after all the kinks have been worked out of the wetware/software interface. You know, the terrible seizures, adware/spyware being uploaded into your ceriberal cortex so your driving along and suddenly you get a big popup right in your field of vision and you crash your car, etc.

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    3. Re:What does Captain Pike think? by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, we need to have larger neurons, and fewer of them. I bet a leech could work this thing really well.

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    4. Re:What does Captain Pike think? by figurewmeat · · Score: 4, Informative

      Working out the kinks is a critical step indeed. I interned at a bioengineering lab this summer, and a huge problem was just keeping channels active. The brain sloshes around inside the skull quite a bit, and to have a stiff electrode intrude on this can be problematic to say the least (if a jet pilot with an implant were to pull a few Gs I imagine some sort of self lobotomy).

      Next are immune reactions to foreign objects in the body. Coatings over the electrodes can help, but are not a guarantee.

      Finally, these electrode arrays are pretty large. Technology can improve this, but imagine invasive brain surgery every time you need to upgrade, or being stuck with the 1st generation mind-link ipod for life.

      I'm waiting for nanomachines to solve many of these problems. When (and if) I make it to grad school perhaps they'll have it set for me... or maybe I'll volunteer as I'm never going to fly a jet.

  2. Hmm... by ZeroPost · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sounds like it's time to break out the tinfoil hat...

    1. Re:Hmm... by KitFox · · Score: 4, Funny
      Dear ZeroPost,

      While we appreciate your interest in tinfoil hats to combat our new technology, we advise you not to try it. As indicated, this is hard-wired directly into your brain. Tinfoil hats have proven to be a problem for our mind control rays, since they are wireless, however the tinfoil has proven to be no match for a Makita to the frontal lobe.

      In closing, we recommend that you drop these silly ideas that tin or even aluminum foil will be any match for our hard-wired technology. Thank you.

      Your Future Thought Control Overlords

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  3. Porn by athakur999 · · Score: 5, Funny

    So this means I can surf with NO hands on the keyboard? Think of the possibilities.

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    1. Re:Porn by retro128 · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's the whole problem isn't it? Now I don't know if all the porn popups I'm getting are being caused by my new neural interface or spyware.

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    2. Re:Porn by Ann+O'Nymous-Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You can do that now, you know.

      Yes, you can.

      It's called sex.

      Put the keyboard and mouse down, back away from the computer...

  4. Really? by SansTinfoilHat · · Score: 4, Funny

    and play Pong with 70% accuracy

    Damn, I can't even play Pong with 70% accuracy.

  5. Now just hook it up to some robotics and... by retro128 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can this be much farther behind?

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  6. The Headaches by tholomyes · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Will this make the headaches better or worse?

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  7. How about.... by HBI · · Score: 4, Insightful

    wiring it up to an electric wheelchair?

    Wireless, perhaps?

    Robotic arm on said wheelchair?

    Seems they aren't plumbing the feasible current possibilities yet, and i'm not even talking about artificial legs and arms. Yet.

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    1. Re:How about.... by shaka999 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think we all know the dangers of hooking up robotic octopus arms without proper failsafes in place.

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  8. yikes! by mrpuffypants · · Score: 4, Funny

    open e-mail

    His first email? INCREASE THE SIZE OF YOUR PENIS! PLEASURE WOMEN!

    sigh. kinda makes you wish that email had never even come around...

    (Jordan, if you see this...GET BACK TO WORK! =]

  9. My childhood dream... by Andorion · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm more interested in using brain-implanted computers to shift the communication paradigm - imagine being able to instantly and wirelessly communicate with anyone, the increased bandwidth and throughput from regular spoken or written word would be phenomenal.

  10. Long overdue use of technology by syrinje · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This combination of medical science and computer technology is long overdue in its use in improving the quality of life of people afflicted with different kinds of motor function degradation.

    One possible reason why such advances seem to take longer than for the pacific tectonic plate to move a mile is the hemlock cup with its swill of politics, corporate greed, litigation and religion. Between them, they throw up enough obstacles in the path of medical advancement - sometimes justifiable on ethical grounds - but mostly to advance to their own selfish power plays.

    Makes one wonder though what the side-effects would be though - would the procedure be safe for someone like Stephen Hawkins? Would the hundreds of electrodes somehow kill something off making time travel impossible? (oh! wait - he already reneged on that ....). But seriously, some study into the invasiveness quotient of this would surely be welcome.

    As a parting thought - is any one else surprised that Pong made it to the top 3 list of things to do?! whatever happened to pr0n!?

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  11. Re:Fiction to reality.. by NetNifty · · Score: 5, Funny

    If he is really a "terminal man", we can just telnet to him if something goes wrong.

  12. Birth of Cybornetics... by koa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It is interesting, however because even though your reference was most likely meant to be humerous. I would submit that something like this would be somewhat akin to the birth of flight or even similar in many ways to SpaceShipOne in the pioneering first steps toward commercial spaceflight.

    Quite possibly even an eventual route to the elusive "fountain of youth" once machines can be manufactured to mimic human bodies. Because if you think of it- a human body is nothing more than a fantasticaly complex machine.

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  13. But how many degrees of freedom? by StateOfTheUnion · · Score: 5, Insightful
    can use his thoughts to control a computer well enough to operate a TV, open e-mail and play Pong with 70% accuracy

    The quote really sounds impressive the way they wrote it, but it seems like the patient is using only three degrees of freedom in their control.

    Use the mind to make the paddle go up . . . use the mind to make the paddle go down . . .

    Use the mind to make the channel go up . . . Use the mind to make the channel go down. Use the mind to switch to volume and repeat . . .

    Use the mind to select next email . . . Use the mind to open the email . . . Use the mind to close the email.

    I count three degrees of freedom . . . This is no different than the guy that was wired up to use his mind to scroll through and select letters to write emails. It sounds good when one says he can play pong, check email and and control a TV, but the truth is that I think that using the mind to control with three degrees of freedom has been done before. This just sounds better because they framed the control in terms of some common tasks.

  14. Early adoption = not the plan by sam_handelman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The joke is in reference to the expanded pilot episode of the original Star Trek. Turn in your membership card, former nerd #774728.

    There are always some wrinkles to be worked out of the first generation of any new technology.

    Getting the latest generation of graphics card and finding that it somehow interferes with playback of my old .viv movies is a nuisance.

    Getting the latest generation of cyberware and finding that it causes epileptic seizures in combination with the interference with my cordless phone? Rather more than a nuisance.

    All things considered, I'll let the parapelegics handle the alpha testing for all this stuff, thank you very much.

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  15. 70% Pong Accuracy by aardwolf64 · · Score: 4, Funny

    can use his thoughts to control a computer well enough to operate a TV, open e-mail and play Pong with 70% accuracy

    I can do the first two easily enough, but he's got me beat on the 70% Pong rate...

  16. Re:RTFA PLEASE... by StateOfTheUnion · · Score: 4, Informative
    Hardly true . . .scanning 100 neurons does not generate 100 degrees of freedom. That would imply that each neuron is a discrete controller that can be stimulated at will by the user. Neurons works in conjunction forming netoworks through axons and synapses and fire in combination with one another. They are not independent control elements. The user is probably firing off a pattern of neurons at a time and this pattern is picked up by the electrodes and interpreted by software. Repeatable neural patterns that are able to be produced on demand are then linked to inputs on the TV, in the pong game etc.

    In fact if you had actually paid attention and thought about the article after reading it, it would be rather obvious that the quote

    There are 100,000 neurons in a square millimeter of cortex. There are very precise codes in the neurons. The details matter."

    Is referring to the details of neural patterns being picked up, not individual neurons. Just as the quote from the article implies, the devil is in the details.

  17. The subject is somewhat misleading... by KitFox · · Score: 4, Insightful
    If you consider that effectively all human input into a computer is brain-controlled. It's just a matter of what transmission method is being used. In normal cases, such as most of us here, the transmission medium is (simplified): Brain to fingers to keyboard to computer.

    The big thing about this is that now they are working to take out the fingers and keyboard part, and make it "Brain to Computer."

    Honestly, I see a few frightening issues, though. For example, I can walk up to my computer on a dry day, sit down, grab the mouse, and send a static shock through the USB port, effectively freezing the USB capability. Now, what happens if somebody is using this wonderful new technology, and gets a static shock straight to the brain? Or, for even more fun, if there is no isolation circuit in the input system, what happens if the power supply to the computer blows and applies a comfortable DC voltage directly to your brain?

    The entire "In" part is what bugs me. "In his skull", "In his brain"... It makes it seem more exciting, but honestly, IMHO it opens up so many more possible problems. Just the fact that you need to get brain surgery to just START to use this thing is enough as it is. If it were non-invasive, I'd be a lot more impressed.

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  18. Re:Fiction to reality.. by s4m7 · · Score: 4, Funny

    we can just telnet to him if something goes wrong.

    root@terminalman# killall -s SIGKILL braind

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  19. Computer Potatoes by metalligoth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I worry about the opposite of this situation... People wired to control their computers that cease to use their muscles for anything else. You think couch potatoes are bad? Just imagine someone hard wired to the Net 24/7.

    We already are at the point where we can give the blind 25 pixel vision. directly through the brain. Just wait until that increases to 1024 x 768, and you can bring in other, erm, sensations as well. Welcome to the new couch potato. They won't go anywhere!

  20. Finally... by Proptwistr · · Score: 5, Funny

    As a tech support specialist, it's kinda nice to see somebody actually using their brain to operate a computer.