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U.S. Programmers An Endangered Species?
CommanderData writes "USA Today reports that US Programmers are an 'Endangered Species' and expects them to be 'extinct' within the next few years, replaced by offshoring and H-1B visa holders. They suggest people will manage overseas projects, become self-employed, or switch to other fields. What do my fellow code-dinosaurs plan to do before the asteroid hits?" A report on Newsforge (which is part of OSTG along with Slashdot) shows the flip side of the coin.
Wait a few millenia and the rest of us will have another fine batch of crude!
Sweet! Now it's finally against the law to kill and eat me!
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Sadly, programmers are particulally endangered due to their inability to mate in captivity.... or anywhere else!
I figure Wal-Mart is always an option. Hmm, stock shelves or pass-out shopping carts... decisions, decisions.
No matter where you go... there you are.
...at least like to get laid before going extinct
Didn't Bush tell us to go to a community college and educate ourselves so we can get higher paying jobs?
Great!! So all the cool hacking goes of to india and us western programmers get the sucky work!
I am claiming asylum in india based on the fact that every nerd has the right to hack code and eat curry!
Become a PM
You know its too bad that programmers are endangered, luckily they have mostly evolved into software engineers. Its just too bad we can't pick which jobs are endangered, I think we could afford to have lawyers a little more endangered. But please don't let them be come endangered by evolving, I can't imagine what a lawyer evolves into but it probably has fangs.
Well, as a U.S. programmer, I have to say that if I can get my 15 minutes of fame on TV, I don't particularly care if it's with David Attenborough simply because I'm listed as endangered... Any TV face time is good TV face time.
... then I guess take-out is cheaper than home-cooked.
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.
The language issue is that Indian programmers can, by and large, read and write English. Something that consistent readers of Slashdot will find American programmers are incapable of.
How does the Slashdot Effect happen given that no slashdotters ever RTFA?
From what I've seen, most people cannot design a program even if they have written code.
TZ
Build kickass open-source software to meet the needs. Basically, it would be saying, "If I can't have the job, you can't either." If India steals your job, make the job evaporate out from under them. See? With open source, everybody wins!
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Something that consistent readers of Slashdot will find American programmers are incapable of.
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Don't end a sentence with a preposition.
Signed,
American Programmer
People in other countries have brians?
Australia has plenty of Bruces, and England has plenty of Kevins.
Lagaan?
Taxes.
Glad I could help...
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close. I'd say Cheney is Dark Vader, and Bush is Jar Jar Binks.
I know I'm going to be modded up on this
You should not expect that six-digit IT job. You should not expect to go to a Brand Name school. You should not expect your children to grow up in a world where there are trees. The world does not owe you these things. You must simply lower your expectations. The Party expects you to do so.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
You Create Concrete Croissants ?
Somehow I doubt people will enjoy them.
Flourescent (adj): smelling like ground wheat.
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Well then there is only ONE option CANADA ;)
Emacs is good operating system, but it has one flaw: Its text editor could be better.
And Kerry looks like Lurch. Ha ha ha ha ha. +4, Funny, right? No? Oh, right, this is Slashdot.
There's no way my job or our work will ever be outsourced.
Gimme a minute to go grab my "famous last words" notebook... Ok, got it. Let's see... Hmmm, let me scroll down through the list...
- "We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out." -- Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962.
- "No flying machine will ever fly from New York to Paris." -- Orville Wright.
- "Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau." -- Irving Fisher, Professor of Economics, Yale University, 1929.
- "The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value. Who would pay for a message sent to nobody in particular?" -- David Sarnoff's associates in response to his urgings for investment in the radio in the 1920s.
Ah, here's a spot for you in the "Engineering quotes" section. I'll put it right next to the one from that guy who built the Titanic. Tee hee.I think that what's truly funny about statements like this is that every time, the originator of such a statement is trying to convince himself more than his audience.
It's good that you didn't refer your employer by name. I'm sure no one will figure out what company you're discussing.
I'd rather be lucky than good.
Let's assume that only the best of the best of other countries come to these institutions. Then the following cases arise: 1. These institutions do admit the best of the best of their own country or 2. They don't.
If 1 is true then students of other countries are better than the best of the best of USA.
If 2 is true then these institutions don't attract the best of the best and are teaching only average or less than average students. This means that average and less than average students of other countries are better than average and less than average students of USA.
But if this is true then it means that the best of other countries are obviously better than best of USA. Because how you determine best is determined by how you determine average.
Further, average students of other countries would be classed as bright students in USA.
Choose the case that suits you.
I helped develop a intranet website that cut the amount of time it took to handle customer service calls.
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When it was put into production, it caused people to get laid off too.
So don't use computers or web ordering. Get on the phone and place your orders with a real person.
Or you might cause them to be laid off too.
Oh, by the way. I got laid off of that job too. Maybe it was karma.
Maybe as programmers we should implement systems that make things take more time instead of less.
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." -- Albert Einstein
Just nitpicking, but last time I checked India was still in Asia. Damned tectonics... ;->
The money does come out of there and to the lower ranks of society... it's called an executives addiction to cocaine!
...the same sources are reporting the tragic death of BSD.