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Whopping-Big Data Theft At U.C. Berkeley

aceta writes "An intruder penetrated a research computer at U.C. Berkeley in August and had access to names, social security numbers and other data for 1.4 million Californians participating in a state social program. CNET calls it the worst intrusion U.C. Berkeley has experienced. SecurityFocus additional details: the hacker used a known vulnerability, and state officials have yanked the university's research access to the data because of the breach. The victims were all receiving or providing at-home care under a state program to help the elderly and disabled. The FBI is investigating."

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  1. It's not theft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's "copyright infringement".

  2. Traffic Safety Center by 2.7182 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Interesting. A few years ago there was a smaller such incident at the Berkeley Traffic Safety Center.

    1. Re:Traffic Safety Center by Feminist-Mom · · Score: 4, Informative

      That was a theft of mostly technical motor vehicle data from a study, and so it wasn't very damaging to the participants. Although I wouldn't want my car model / color etc. publicly available.

    2. Re:Traffic Safety Center by Sc00ter · · Score: 5, Funny
      So you drive around with your car under a big blanket or something?

    3. Re:Traffic Safety Center by Brummund · · Score: 4, Funny

      Tinfoil, my son, tinfoil. :-)

  3. Fix by rguiu · · Score: 5, Funny

    Should be quite easy to fix, now give new name and social security name to everyone involved.

  4. Re:suprising... by metlin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The university detected its computer system had been broken into at the end of August, but did not notify the state until Sept. 27 after the school had done its own investigation with the FBI, Strait said.

    Are they allowed to do that? Without notifying the state at all? Especially considering that the data that was lost belongs to the state.

    Already UC is having a lot of trouble in the (mis)handling of national labs and a few other problems, this would only compound it. Damn.

  5. WHAT!?! by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 3, Funny

    I didnt know the "SSN database.mdb" in /tmp was 'secret'!

    Oh-nos!

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  6. SSNs or not? by garcia · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The data, which included home addresses, telephone numbers and dates of birth, was being used at the state's authorization but without the consent of the individuals whose information was being used in the study.

    The title says it included SSNs but the article doesn't mention them. Were they included or not? What the hell does a researcher need to have SSNs for anyway? Can't they be identified by insignificant numbers?

    The university detected its computer system had been broken into at the end of August, but did not notify the state until Sept. 27 after the school had done its own investigation with the FBI, Strait said.

    And here we are on October 20th hearing about it. I wonder if the people that were included in that database (that should have been kept on a completely secluded network IMHO) were contacted September 28th or if they had to wait until three bureaucratic agencies had done their own investigations...

    1. Re:SSNs or not? by Fedallah · · Score: 4, Interesting
      And here we are on October 20th hearing about it. I wonder if the people that were included in that database (that should have been kept on a completely secluded network IMHO) were contacted September 28th or if they had to wait until three bureaucratic agencies had done their own investigations...


      Both my wife and my mother-in-law are most likely contained in that database (my wife as a former IHSS caregiver, my mother-in-law as a current IHSS care-receiver), and this is the first I've heard of this break-in. To be honest, I feel betrayed the state of California's apparent lackadaisical approach to guarding these social security numbers. Why would these numbers be shared with a university for research purposes anyways? It really doesn't make sense anyways, and I don't recall my wife signing any type of release to allow this personal information being used for research purposes. I guess it's time to go safeguard against identity theft (not to mention contemplate the potential success of a class action lawsuit against the state of California on grounds of negligence.)
  7. Worst. Intrusion. Ever. by Indy+Media+Watch · · Score: 4, Insightful
    CNET calls it the worst intrusion U.C. Berkeley has experienced

    No. It's only the worst intrusion they were made aware of. There could have been more...

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  8. Why did they need all of that data? by ericzundel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It makes you wonder...

    Why does a research program need access to social security numbers, phone numbers, and the like?

    I think the real story is the State of California sharing too much personal information, regardless of how the hacker got access to it.

  9. Want to sell by ValuJet · · Score: 4, Funny

    1.4 million Social Security numbers.

  10. Universities notorious by bigberk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Universities are notorious for having poor network security! They typically don't have sufficient staff to maintain such tight control over network access. Why would such sensitive information be kept on inherently vulnerable networks in the first place?

    1. Re:Universities notorious by jschottm · · Score: 4, Informative

      On the contrary, most major universities have the staff, software, equipment, and knowhow to maintain tight control over the network, it's that their hands are tied by professors who demand complete access to whatever they want in the name of accademic freedom and by the students who are paying $X thousands dollars for the experience, and by god, are going to use their $P2PSOFT.

      My 27,000 student body university weathers most of the worms better than most large businesses, despite having little control over the computers on the network. And we keep our key servers safe. Assuming a lack of zero day exploits (as is true in this case), there's no reason an important server is any less safe in an accademic environment than a corporate one. Someone was asleep at the wheel, and you'll find that anywhere.

    2. Re:Universities notorious by mi · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Indeed. It took years for my ex-school to switch to ssh and ban outside telnet-ing. At the conclusion of one discussion, the head admin said, that she is still not convinced, they need ssh, but that she might consider disabling rsh... May be, because it is a government-run school, I don't know.

      And there still is no SSL support on IMAP server(s). To protect my account, I have to ssh in and create a tunnel -- this way I am only exposed to a hacker already on the department net...

      The only real admin I know there seems quite competent, but either he is overloaded by work or the security just is not a high priority, I guess...

      They have a nice policy, of keeping accounts of alumnis alive for as long as they are active, though.

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  11. Re:At Berkeley? by Indy+Media+Watch · · Score: 5, Funny

    Two things have come out of Berkeley, Unix and LSD. It is uncertain which caused the other.

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  12. One has to ask the question by TuballoyThunder · · Score: 4, Insightful
    What purpose does it serve the researchers to have SSN's? The purpose of the study was to study the impact of wages on in-home care. Likewise, the names are irrelevant to the researchers. The agency that provided the data should have eliminated the names and SSN's and replaced them with a unique identifier.

    This smacks of laziness on the part of the data provider and the researcher(s).

  13. Re:Guess What by garcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can smell an over-reaction brewing. This is just the sort of incident that can force the adoption of stringent laws.

    As you all probably know I'm the last person that thinks that we should create laws due to overreaction but in this case I have to say that we do need more stringent laws against protecting SSNs.

    There is absolutely no reason that a researcher needed access to SSNs. They should have all been assigned a random ID number and that should have been linked back to the SSNs and stored in the STATE OFFICES ONLY for later cross referencing.

    We have all these demands for SSNs and we are supposed to be protecting them as our entire history is linked to them yet we don't have any real protections when they are.

  14. Privacy of information in an insecure system by Tucan · · Score: 3, Informative

    This seems to be a case when the privacy of the information could have been maintained despite the breach of security if they had been using a "translucent database". Peter Wayner wrote a good book about this, and as far as I know coigned the term.

    It naturally requires some thought to do right but it seems like it could have worked in this case.

  15. How many intrusions went undetected? by theluckyleper · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The thing that worries me about these sorts of news articles is the fact that there are probably 10x as many similar intrusions which go undetected. I imagine that most crackers worth their salt would be concerned with covering their tracks!

    Which is why I always say "NO" when asked by online stores, "Would you like us to remember your credit card number for future transactions?" I think they need a "HELL NO!" option :)

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  16. Re:Yeah by NardofDoom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A wise man once said "A society is stable when some nut guns down a schoolyard and the laws *don't* change."

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  17. Information Technology Policy by Mstrgeek · · Score: 4, Informative
    This is an outline of the University of California, Berkeley's Campus Plan Implementing the UC Requirements for Protection of Computerized Personal Information

    http://ist-socrates.berkeley.edu:7015/protected. data.html

    Hope you find it to be as educational on this subject as I did

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  18. Outsourcing anyone? by mhollis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This may be seen as slightly offtopic, but the company I work for has outsourced payroll. Payroll includes the information supposedly stolen from this database, Social security numbers, home addresses, age, date of birth as well as a lot of financial information giving access to the earnings of many for many years.

    I'm wondering when the Indian company (or some person within that company) decides to legally sell that information to some Moldavian Mafiosi. I'll bet there are no Indian laws regarding the release of Social Security numbers and financial information of Americans. Might violate a contract but who's paying more?

    Does your company outsource payroll?

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  19. Re:Guess What by garcia · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The problem is nobody actually cares about that minor little legal detail. I wish the government would crack down on this and take care of identity theft once and for all.

    Well I went to a video store once. They required an SSN to rent movies there. When I told her it was illegal to use them as an ID number she told me it wasn't illegal to refuse me service.

    As long as there's no way to enforce the rules the rules are worthless.

    Now, in this case SSNs were likely necessary in the first place but they are probably unnecessary for research and thus my suggestion that the records should have been linked to a random ID number that was only able to be cross-referenced later at the State office.

  20. Re:Guess What by GoofyBoy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >they were victimised because of the info they had, not who they were.

    No, universities, military, government are targetted for who they are.

    When a person starts cracking a new machine, its very rare they have any idea what data is on the machine.

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  21. SSN by sxmjmae · · Score: 5, Informative

    They should have cleaned the data and removed the SSN. When we pass information outside the company we remove any reference to the SSN and replace it with a zero padded sequence to the same length as the SSN. If they ever need to know who the individual is they can give us this sequence number and we can look them up. Our plans are to remove any possible reference to the SSN in the database and replace them with a good old fashion sequence number (IE Customer number). Only payroll will have a table that links the sequence number to the SSN (a must when filing taxes).

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  22. Not Illegal by superid · · Score: 4, Informative
    According to The Social Security Administration it is not illegal for a business to ask you for your SSN.

    Can you provide a reference that it is illegal?

    Seriously, this is not a troll....I see this statement often and I want to know if it's an urban myth or not.

    1. Re:Not Illegal by clausiam · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But that is completely insane. They're saying you can refuse to give it but that may mean you have to go without the service requesting it and then they mention a utility as an example and say "the choice is yours". So if you want to keep your SSN as private as possible you may have to live without electricity and water? It that what they call choice? /Claus

  23. Stupid businesses by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Now it's time to effectively ENFORCE the law that bans the usage of the SSNos as identification number for businesses, especially banks.

    The SSNo was never intended as an ID number. Yet, many businesses will take nothing else as a customer idendifier.

    Myself, I am being hounded by my electric power supplier who wants me to give them my SSNo (which I didn't when I opened my account).

  24. I worked on this project... by bigbikkuri · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was working on this project, and I'll tell you I was extremeley disheartened to learn people would try and sabotage this project. It is for a really good cause (if you believe in unions that is, I don't, but it was still for a good cause) and I hope the project isn't jeapordized beyond repair because of this. For those who might have guessed, the system that was hacked was a Windows 2000 Pro box running SQL Server and a statistics program called STATA. The box was only up and running while retrieving data and was turned off the rest of the time while I was on the project. There were very strict rules about letting the box onto the network since it wasn't a Berkeley box, but then they took the box and put on their own security software which supposedly made the data safe. I can give you the name of the IT guy in charge if you want. Many of you are listing reasons for not having the SSN's on the database, and that they should have been kept at the state level and then the state give us unique identifier numbers. In actuality, the state does not provide that service, and only provides the data from several databases. We ourselves then created unique identifiers because we needed very specific samples from different populations of California. This identifier was made with a combination of people's relations, their ethnicity, and their social security number. You'd be surprised how many people in California have the same name. Also, although maybe not the best reason in some programmer's opinion - it was easier to separate people by their SSN because STATA didn't present a way to compare strings in a useful enough manner so as to use a combination of name and zipcode. And if you are wondering why we had names and addresses and phone numbers, it is because we called and mailed these people ourselves. Our first mailing - worked a 22 hour day, and tried about four different assembly lines! The state didn't help at all - and in the current time when we have idiot Republicans like Arnold (I can't spell his last name) who thinks fixing a state budget crisis involves cutting the budget of an already failing program and driving MORE people into poverty, I don't think you can expect them to help us tell them how and why they are wrong. I'm no longer on the project (got shipped overseas) but the people working on it are rock solid individuals, and personally, as a former IT guy myself, I blame the morons who worked IT at the division this project is taking place. I understand Berkeley is huge, but for a University that supposedly is "computers" - they have a lot of people with absolutely no clue.

    1. Re:I worked on this project... by hacksoncode · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is a perfect example of why people who are out to save the world are dangerous.

    2. Re:I worked on this project... by jonfelder · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So basically you blame IT, Microsoft, STATA, and Arnold instead of having the researchers take any of them blame themselves for being unable to generate usable random IDs. Why didn't they just generate their own random 9 digit identifier and delete the SSNs?

      Why didn't they make sure the box was secure by never putting it on the Internet?

      Granted yes, Microsoft software has vulnerabilities, STATA may suck, IT support may be stupid, and the state may have been negligent in distributing sensative data this way, but don't you think the researchers have some responsibility for this as well?

      The researchers knew it wasn't good to have SSNs in the data and (according to you) had strict rules about network access because it wasn't a Berkeley box. Yet, they put the box on the Internet anyway with unobfuscated SSNs.

      Don't you think those actions on the part of the researchers require them the share in the responsibility?

  25. My choice by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm picking "Yusuf Islam", then I'm catching a flight.

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  26. In-Home care by Danman6126 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In cases involving over 500,000 people, the organization can warn the potential victims en masse through a website posting and by alerting the media.

    Yeah, like bed ridden old people that need in-home care are going to be able to check a website for info on what's going on.

    Try sending them a letter or something!

  27. SSN as National ID card (was:Re:Not Illegal) by e-gold · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I still have my SS card issued in the 1960s. It says, and I quote:

    "FOR SOCIAL SECURITY AND TAX PURPOSES -- NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION."

    (The ALL CAPS is what's on my original card, I'm not "shouting"!)

    I'm sure there are reams of Social "Security" (ok, my classical-liberal bias is showing with the quote-marks, but bear with me. After all, there's NO TRUST FUND, it's all a BUNCH OF I.O.U.s!!!) documents which form various interpretive rules and laws that can't be fathomed by mere mortal nonlawyers, but ask yourself a couple of questions:

    1. Why would so many folks think it's illegal, if it's not?

    2. Why does my card say what it says, but modern cards make NO MENTION of the fact that it's allegedly "not for identification"? Did something change? When?!? Who voted for it???!!!

    Expanding government, when you lie to do it (and the lie was that the SSN was/is not gonna be used as a de-facto National ID card/number) is morally-wrong. Various events/excuses (I can see a 9/11 thread looming, so I'm trying to pre-squelch that now) don't make the moral-wrong of lying to expand government suddenly become right. If you want to expand government, say "I will make the government bigger, and this is why..." and then make an HONEST argument for once! Ok, rant-over. Back to work.
    JMR

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  28. Flamebait? Re:I worked on this project... by hacksoncode · · Score: 3, Informative
    Hmmm. If I got modded flamebait I must have given the impression that I was just being flip.

    No, I really do think it's nearly the perfect example of the dangers of righteousness.

    The Grand Experiment in this case was apparently perceived as vastly more "important" than the individual privacy and even *lives* of actual living people. This is quite typical of people who are out to "save the world". It's a form of "the ends justify the means" thinking. I call bullshit.

    BTW, in case it wasn't obvious: this isn't a liberal vs. conservative thing. Anti-abortionists have the same damn problem.

    This is all assuming, of course, that the parent of my original comment wasn't itself flamebait :-).

  29. Re:Guess What by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 3, Informative

    Anybody have a reference that'll prove it's illegal to use a SSN as an ID number?

    How 'bout a reference that proves that it isn't? SSN FAQ.

    I'm at a University that requires me to produce my SSN pretty much constantly. It's my student ID number, generally the number used to post exam scores online so as to "hide the identity" of the student receiving each grade.

    If they're a public school, then they probably can't do this. But every school I've been to has had a procedure where one could change their student ID to a randomly generated one. It's not very publicized, and you usually have to go far up the chain of "let me talk to your manager" before you even get someone who knows about it, but it's usually possible.