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Mac OS X Panther On A 25MHz Centris 650

Currawong writes "danamania, well known for making the most of 68k Macs, has done the ultimate, and installed Mac OS X Panther on an old Centris with 68MB RAM, a 25MHz 68040 and 4GB drive - an early 90's machine with about the same power as a NeXT cube. To achieve this, she's had to run it under PearPC on Debian, resulting in a severe performance hit, as generic emulation runs "about 500 times slower" according to the developers. On this approximately 0.05MHz G3 speed emulator, the boot screen has taken 1.5 hours to appear, and the ETA for full boot is almost exactly 1 week! Regular updates are being posted as each milestone in the boot process is reached."

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  1. LOL by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't think I want to know what happens when you try to install or update fink on that machine...

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    1. Re:LOL by Tod+Hsals+5000 · · Score: 5, Funny

      and i always thought that trying to load doom3 on my abacus made it freeze... it seems i need more patience!

    2. Re:LOL by 2starr · · Score: 4, Funny

      Forget Fink, you should try Virtual PC.

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    3. Re:LOL by zephc · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hah, just try moving the mouse! You might see something, if you come back to it after a long lunch break.

      I bet a screen capture movie would have to be done by Marty Stoufer from Wild Kingdom, like when they do a time-lapse film of a plant growing, or ants devouring roadkill.

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    4. Re:LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      He could run Mac-on-Linux on Linux running on Virtual PC on OS X running PearPC on Linux on his Centris. He'll be able to measure his effective CPU speed in Hertz.

  2. And in other news, I sat and watched plaster dry by DarthBart · · Score: 5, Funny

    This one qualifies for the "Too Much Time on Their Hands Award".

  3. Yay! by jargoone · · Score: 5, Funny

    the boot screen has taken 1.5 hours to appear, and the ETA for full boot is almost exactly 1 week!

    Gee, sounds faster than my wife's ibook G3/900 with 128M of RAM! Maybe I should upgrade to this!

    1. Re:Yay! by SonicBurst · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dude, I've got mod points and love to mod this up, but I can't find a +1 "Sucks To Be You" anywhere...though I'm sure there are some apple haters that would hit the funny button....

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  4. Boot Time One Week!? by SillySnake · · Score: 5, Funny

    I had a windows system like that once.. But it wasn't emulated :-/

    1. Re:Boot Time One Week!? by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 4, Funny

      From scratch to a fully booted system in a week. Gentoo users must be jealous.

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  5. Errr... by AndyFewt · · Score: 3, Funny

    I sure hope the website isnt being hosted on it.

    1. Re:Errr... by nuclear305 · · Score: 4, Funny

      "I sure hope the website isnt being hosted on it"

      Considering it won't boot for another week, this truly must be a story from the Mysterious Future!

  6. Re:Very simple question... by mekkab · · Score: 5, Funny

    WTF else are you gonna do with a Centris? Play Marathon?! Or Spectre VR?

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  7. wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    imagine a beowolf cluster of those...

  8. IT SEEMS by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 3, Funny

    That they are hosting the website on this machine, too!

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    Never been known to fail..."
    1. Re:IT SEEMS by dougmc · · Score: 4, Funny
      Were it too much faster, it wouldn't be /. material ...

      Really, the reason it was posted to /. is because they think it'll take a week to boot. If it booted in an hour, we wouldn't be nearly as amused :)

      Hell, my Apollo 3000 with 8 MB of ram took about 30 minutes from power on until it was booted up enough for me to start an xterm. All thanks to the memory-grubbing power of HP VUE on top of DomainOS -- no emulation there!

  9. Ultimate? by SunPin · · Score: 5, Funny

    If "has done the ultimate" equates to "has smoked crack" then, sure, it's the ultimate.

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  10. Pain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    That's more painful than watching James T. Kirk play a lawyer on TV.

  11. Simple answer ... by pavon · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't know, but I want to marry her.

  12. In case it gets ./'d by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Here is the full text:

    Warning: mysql_connect(): Too many connections in /vhosts/www.appletalk.com.au/forums/sources/Driver s/mySQL.php on line 67

    Warning: mysql_select_db(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in /vhosts/www.appletalk.com.au/forums/sources/Driver s/mySQL.php on line 70
    ERROR: Cannot find database appletalk
    Warning: mysql_query(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in /vhosts/www.appletalk.com.au/forums/sources/Driver s/mySQL.php on line 103

    There appears to be an error with the AppleTalk Australia database.
    You can try to refresh the page by clicking here, if this does not fix the error, you can contact the board administrator by clicking here

    Error Returned

    We apologise for any inconvenience

  13. And the ETA for the TFA?-Molasses in December. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    "I tried to RTFA, but the site is gone... I already see obligatory "The site must be hosted on the said Centris, lmao", etc. As of the time of writing, I didn't see any comment..."

    Wait two weeks. The first letter should appear.

  14. But you know... by tgeller · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...it's still better than Windown XP.

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  15. Journal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    OSX load journal: Day 6: Power outage.

  16. That is a bullshit answer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I mean really, what the fuck is that supposed to mean? I don't go around killing people just because I can. I go around killing people because it makes my dick hard.

    1. Re:That is a bullshit answer. by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

      "I mean really, what the fuck is that supposed to mean? I don't go around killing people just because I can."

      Would you go around killing people if you couldn't?

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    2. Re:That is a bullshit answer. by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 2, Funny

      I mean really, what the fuck is that supposed to mean? I don't go around killing people just because I can. I go around killing people because it makes my dick hard.

      Well, at least you're not killing puppies so you can have an orgasm. There's already enough game consoles on the market as it is.

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  17. Watch by headbulb · · Score: 4, Funny

    Watch as danamania gets a whole lot of new slashdot friends just because she's a girl...

    I know I added her to my friend list.

    Ok off-topic but I thought it was funny.

    1. Re:Watch by rune.w · · Score: 2, Funny

      The funny thing is that you were moded Insightful... Sad, very sad.

    2. Re:Watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      i'd do her

      just turned 19 too!!

    3. Re:Watch by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 5, Funny

      i'd do her

      As opposed to your usual crusty tube sock ... yeah I'm sure she's flattered

  18. So in a week from now... by DA_MAN_DA_MYTH · · Score: 3, Funny

    If someone trips over the power cord, or the power goes out, does she have the patience to start over?

    So the G3 Emulates at 50Khz with PearPC. Bet she wishes she could have used Cherry OS!

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  19. I think it booted already... by digitalgimpus · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... and is hosting the webpage linked in the article... because the server is that slowww....

    It would be funny if they install SETI@Home, and that weak machine finds ET's signal...

    oh how the AMD kiddies will cry. ;-)

  20. I've done similarly stupid things... by sakusha · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...but not intentionally. A friend of mine once called me over to his shop to check out his new IBM PC 286 clone and a clone-PostScript laser printer. You can tell this was a LONG time ago. I fired up Corel Draw and did a few odd things, like a PostScript pattern fill inside a clipping path. I sent it to print and nothing happened. It was 5PM on Friday, he said he never turns off his computers, so we just left it running and left for the weekend.
    On monday morning, I got an excited phone call from my friend, the page had just popped out of the printer! That means the print job ran on the laser printer's processor for about 2.5 days.

  21. Re:Very simple question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    w00t!

    I pwned Durendal!

    Taste my shock-stick flavored wrath beeyotch!

  22. Linux on an Abacus... by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's nothing.

    When my port of Linux on an Abacus is complete, I shall hold the true crown of new stuff on old shit geekiness! (Though, I wonder if people are going to say I cheated because I had to overclock it a little, and I added a few more beads to increase bandwidth.)

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  23. boot time of 1 week?! by jxyama · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...so does that mean it automatically gets an "uptime" of 150 hours? that is stability, baby!

  24. Re:wow by pclminion · · Score: 4, Funny
    imagine a beowolf cluster of those...

    I started to, but it'll take me 52.6 years to finish imagining it.

  25. Re:Very simple question... by zephc · · Score: 3, Funny

    Nuh uh, it was James T. Kirk! Duh!

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  26. Re:Very simple question... by Jezza · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think his Centris has too much time on it's hands... (although probably not now)

    I think we have to see this as a pointless indulgence, we know it should work, but there is no real point.

    I just hope he realises that he's denying some fish a proper home.

  27. Re:Very simple question... by carpe_noctem · · Score: 3, Funny

    The real question is: Can it use a two button mouse?

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  28. I bet by Lord+Kano · · Score: 2, Funny

    that this guy goes homicidal if his power goes out on Sunday night.

    LK

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  29. Re:Very simple question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Ok, thanks for repeating the standard slashdot "geek" mantra. Now go roll around in some dogshit. Why not? It's there!

  30. Re:An Excellent Demonstration of Church-Turing... by istewart · · Score: 2, Funny

    And 25 years from now, my IIgs will have finally reached the Apple-logo boot screen.

    Maybe by the time I'm ready to retire it will have finally rendered a single frame of the OS X logo.

  31. I don't want to start a holy war here, by teamhasnoi · · Score: 4, Funny
    but what is the deal with you OS X fanatics? I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of a Centris with 68MB RAM, a 25MHz 68040 and 4GB drive for about 2 months now while it attempts to copy a 17 Meg file from one folder on the hard drive to another folder. 2 months. At home, on my C64 w/ 64k of RAM running Contiki, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this lickable OS, the same operation would take about 3 days, if that.

    In addition, during this file transfer, Safari will not work. And everything else has ground to a halt. Even Textedit is straining to keep up as I type this.

    I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while working on various OS X machines, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a OS X machine that has run faster than its Contiki counterpart, despite the thousands of lines of code stolen from Windows Longhorn. My Tandy 102 with 32k of ram and MS BASIC runs faster than this 25 mhz machine at times. From a productivity standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that OS X is a superior OS.

    OS X addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use OS X over other faster, cheaper, more stable OSes.

  32. Don't mince words... by interactive_civilian · · Score: 2, Funny
    Lord Kano said:
    Why?

    Read the damned article you lazy motherfucker.

    Now, don't be shy. Say what you really mean to say. ;p
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  33. Re:Very simple question... by capmilk · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just for the record: the Plus *was not* able to run it at full speed. I know, because I had one - and I always lost against those darn Mac II users who were simply faster... ;)

  34. Re:its not running ON the centris by kundor · · Score: 2, Funny
    This isn't hard.

    What kind of hardware is it? It's a Centris. Is there any other hardware involved? No.

    What is the software that's running? Oh my gosh, it's OS X. Is it a mockup of OS X? No. Is it a program that pretends to be OS X? No. It's an actual copy of OS X, and it's running.

    So OS X is running. What is it running on? Is it running on some mythical G5 processor in the ether that magically instantiates itself when it senses OS X code on other hardware? Why, no, it's running on the Centris.

    See OS X. See OS X run. Run, OS X, run.