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The Art of Cable Folding

Mudzy writes "Nothing is worst than a bunch of dangling cables inside your computer case. The Tech Zone has a cool article up showing how to do Voodoo PC style cable folds. "

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  1. Yeah... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    voodoo'd that ass right out of commission. Mirrors?

  2. Woo! by julesh · · Score: 4, Funny

    Zero replies and slashdotted. Well done, Tech Zone. That must be some hot server setup you have their. ;)

    1. Re:Woo! by The+Dobber · · Score: 5, Funny


      When you're more concerned with cable then bandwidth management, come to the experts at Tech Zone.

    2. Re:Woo! by isometrick · · Score: 2, Informative
    3. Re:Woo! by The-Bus · · Score: 4, Funny

      My guess is they folded their network cables a little bit TOO much.

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    4. Re:Woo! by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Its not slashdotted, someone bright spark folded the network cable a little bit too much.

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    5. Re:Woo! by millwall · · Score: 3, Informative

      Hmmm... looks like this mirrordot page is folded to only show adverts....

    6. Re:Woo! by cluening · · Score: 2

      I love it when people try to make a "I'm better than you, I would have never made that bandwidth mistake!" style reply to a post, but can't even spell things correctly. That sure makes you look SMRT!

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    7. Re:Woo! by fizban · · Score: 5, Funny

      They folded their cables. We folded their servers.

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  3. News? by martingunnarsson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Come on, I've been doing this for years without even thinking about it, and I'm sure I'm not alone. Like, wooow, you can actually fold the cables! :-)

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    1. Re:News? by bdcrazy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Same here, I was doing this back before people even considered putting windows in their cases. It just makes it easier to add and remove things from the case. I was always sick of how hp/compaq/dell were always just tossing cables in the computer and made them look crappy. (btw you should have seen my breadboard computer i made at wsu, was a work of art :))

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  4. The Art Worst Editing by richie2000 · · Score: 4, Funny
    Nothing worst than Slashdot editors high cocaine unable check submissions. :-P

    Besides, folding IDE cables an art? Ptoii! Terminating SCSI cables is an art, this is just the locals peddling handicraft to tourists. What is this, national "Bend a cable, get on Slashdot"-day?

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    1. Re:The Art Worst Editing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Welcome to the new Slashdot, were folding a ribbon cable is newsworthy. I think it's time people like you and I, and the thousands of users who have been here even longer than us, faced facts and admit that Slashdot just isn't aimed at us anymore. It has been sucked down to the land of the Lowest Common Denominator. I suspect that the vast majority of people reading this article actually think that folding a ribbon cable is the height of hardware hacking. No doubt they consider the fools with rounded 80 conductor ATA cables Gods amongst men (Luckily for the ones with the rounded cables, none of them understands the crosstalk issues, but ignorance is bliss).

      Look at the replies. Half of them are complaining about the missing "of" in the title. The other half are complaining that the site is slashdotted and are actually asking for mirrors so that they can read this "fascinating" story. No doubt they intend to rush off and fold their cables. Maybe they'll install a blue cold cathode tube while they're there.

      Slashdot began it's rapid slide downhill once they all moved away from Holland and let Timothy run amok with Your Rights Online, which simply turned Slashdot from a decent science and IT geek site into a whiny under-18's bitch fest about topics the posters barely understand. Bah.

    2. Re:The Art Worst Editing by shis-ka-bob · · Score: 4, Funny

      Give the editors a break, its not like there is any real news going on today...

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    3. Re:The Art Worst Editing by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 3, Informative

      Luckily for the ones with the rounded cables, none of them understands the crosstalk issues, but ignorance is bliss

      You can get round cables with shielding that prevents this.

    4. Re:The Art Worst Editing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Well no, that's not really what I see on the front page. Let's see.

      • Folding cables. Oh God.
      • Highly specialised hand optimised code on AMD64 will run fast. Film at 11.
      • ASync CPU's under development. This would be cool if there was more technical background. As it stands it is largly a press release.
      • A one man space race. Again could be cool if there more technical information, but it is just a repost of The Register and BBC articles. Ho hum.
      • A Poltics story which is slipped in as an Ask Slashdot in a plot to evade my filter. One long flamefest.
      • Aha, a real tech story about non-scratchable CD's and LCD's!
      • One long DVD burner advert as a repost of an AnandTech story. Yawn.
      • Aha, an interesting story about OpenBSD and Theo's attempt to get WiFi firmware under useful licensing terms. O.K. Shame about the comments.
      • Games. Ho hum.
      • Book review. Ho hum.
      So two out of ten, at least for me, and neither of those two are particularly griping.

      What Slashdot desperatly needs to do is to split Your Rights Online and Politics off into a totally seperate website. Don't even think of calling it Slashdot, and give it it's own domain. Then get an editor back here at Slashdot who'll actually look for and post interesting and maybe even original hard IT and science articles. Sadly I'm probably dreaming at this point.
    5. Re:The Art Worst Editing by BalloonMan · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Slashdot just isn't aimed at us anymore

      Amen, brother. This is one of the most pathetic articles yet. I can get more useful techie information reading the back of my cereal box.

      Can we have a referendum on Slashdot editors today? After all, it's election day in America. Cast your votes, my Slashdot brethren. Click your mouse and be counted: In or out? Toss the poseurs, or give 'em another chance?

    6. Re:The Art Worst Editing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, you get to pay a extra 15 dollars for round cables that claim to prevent this by "sheilding".

      Think about it.

      Cross talk is from cable to cable. That's why they are flat, so as to minimize the amount that their magnetic fields interact.

      Hell that's why they went from 40 cable ribbons to 80 cable ribbons. It's just to add extra space because the faster speeds increase more interference.

      It's not designed at all to prevent interference from other cables or sources of radiation.

      Also cables are kept short, not to prevent signal interference, but to resolve timing issues and degragation from cross-talk.

      Also if your "sheilding" isn't grounded its not sheilding at all. It's a antenna. It's directing radio signals directly into your wires were they are grounded out thru the data carrying wires.

      So unless each of the 40 data cables are [i]individually raped in a foil or copper AND grounded AT BOTH ENDS[/i] your cables are not sheilded AND you've been ripped off.

      The whole rounded cable thing is a scam to sell inferior cables at inflated prices.

      Keep in mind this is something I get FREE with my harddrives and you have to go out and spend 15-35 dollars on them, depending on how gullible you are.

      BTW. I have some land in florida that I would like to sell you. CHEAP! I also have some elbow grease that you can use to lubricate the electrons in your cables to make it so that you can overclock your RAM easier!

    7. Re:The Art Worst Editing by mjang · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Welcome to the new Slashdot, were folding a ribbon cable is newsworthy. I think it's time people like you and I, and the thousands of users who have been here even longer than us, faced facts and admit that Slashdot just isn't aimed at us anymore.

      Geez--what a sourpuss. I have been here longer than you, and there have always been different types of stories.

      There's this thing on the right side of your browser called a scrollbar. Feel free to use it.

      Or, since you are trying really hard to show your eliteness, why don't you direct it towards something actually useful and write something interesting for others to read.

    8. Re:The Art Worst Editing by Mark+Hood · · Score: 4, Funny

      So two out of ten, at least for me, and neither of those two are particularly griping.

      I think you mean gripping. All the comments on those stories seem to be griping. :)

      Mark

      PS In accordence with ISO Flaming Standards, this spelling flame contains one (1) spelling error.

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    9. Re:The Art Worst Editing by Rob+Parkhill · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've been waiting many, many years for a /. article that deals with this very serious cable routing issue. Now that it has finally been posted, I can delete /. from my bookmarks and get all of my tech news from news.com.com. What a relief!

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    10. Re:The Art Worst Editing by BobPaul · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So unless each of the 40 data cables are [i]individually raped in a foil or copper AND grounded AT BOTH ENDS[/i] your cables are not sheilded AND you've been ripped off.

      Perhaps I'm lost as to the cause of cross talk, but wouldn't a straight through cable be more likely to induce cross talk than a round cable? Now, perhaps they make round cables differently than I would expect them to, but isn't this why we use round ethernet cables with circuit pairs twisted together rather than straight cables with circuit pairs all in a line?

      I know straight, flat phone cabling carring 2 phone lines creates lots of cross talk, while equal lengths of CAT 5 carring 4 phone lines won't create any (at least, noticable to the (my) human ear).

      I'd venture that so long as the circuit pairs in the round IDE cable are twisted together, cross talk should be less of an issue in the round IDEs.. But then, perhaps there aren't pairs in an IDE cable the way there are pairs in a CAT5 cable...

      But the parent is right, the sheilded cables are completely worthless.

  5. Fold Cables....? by Ninwa · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well sometimes they fold behind my desk when the desk gets smashed up against them... but seriously... what's wrong with just tossing your cables behind the desk and just let em be!?

    1. Re:Fold Cables....? by zakezuke · · Score: 3, Funny

      .. what's wrong with just tossing your cables behind the desk and just let em be!?

      Ask the cat that's been trapped back there for another night.

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  6. What a shame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's too bad about the Art Cable. Does anyone know why they're folding? Lack of funding, perhaps?

  7. Uhm.... by r1ckt3r · · Score: 4, Informative

    do you mean "The Art Of Cable Folding"???

  8. Cute, but why? by chamilto0516 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    99% of my cables are round, 1% are flat. My cable management tasks are going to concentrate on the round ones that I see and in some case trip over.

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    1. Re:Cute, but why? by drsquare · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Because not everyone wants to pay £5 for a flat IDE cable, another £5 for a flat floppy cable, and another £5 for a another flat IDE cable for the CD/DVD drives. Perhaps if rounded cables were sensibly priced then flat-cable folding wouldn't be an issue.

  9. Dangling Cables ? by fizze · · Score: 3, Interesting

    well, on a more serious note, and as it is probably covered by the article, I set up quite some server boxes and countless PCs, and never had problems or issues with cables.
    I however, had some problems to "loose" cables installed by previous techies.

    I only experienced PCs with SCSI disks (or cables, for that matter) creating a somewhat noise airflow.
    Or, worse, they stalled the air so the heat dissipation wasnt fully functional.
    But I dont expect this to be a problem for "normal" PCs.

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  10. The Art Cable Folding by fdiskne1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Art Using The Word "Of".

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    1. Re:The Art Cable Folding by The-Bus · · Score: 4, Funny

      You mean The Art Of Using the Word "Of", course.

      Wait... damn.

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  11. New Slashdot compression technique by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 4, Funny

    But it's a bit lossy.

  12. Nothing is worst than a bunch of dangling... by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've seen worse... like bad grammar.

    1. Re:Nothing is worst than a bunch of dangling... by AnuradhaRatnaweera · · Score: 4, Funny
      I've seen worse... like bad grammar.

      `That's right,' said the Queen, patting her on the head, which Alice didn't like at all, `though, when you say "garden," -- I've seen gardens, compare with which this would be a wilderness.'

      Alice didn't dare to argue the point, but went on: `-- and I thought I'd try and find my way to the top of that hill -- '

      `When you say "hill,"' the Queen interrupted, `I could show you hills, in comparison with which you'd call that a valley.'

      `No, I shouldn't,' said Alice, surprised into contradicting her at last: `a hill can't be a valley, you know. That would be nonsense -- '

      The Red Queen shook her head, `You may call it "nonsense" if you like,' she said, ` but I've heard nonsense, compared with which that would be as sensible as a dictionary!'

  13. It is indeed an art by sita · · Score: 3, Informative

    Fold your cable wrong and you get nasty reflections from the corners. Careful there!

  14. Folding cables by ralejs · · Score: 5, Funny

    Cables are living organisms. I fold them neatly and put them in a box. The next time I open the box its a complete mess.

    1. Re:Folding cables by The-Bus · · Score: 5, Funny

      This happens so often with me with audio cables that I always become mystified. Not to toot my own horn, but I can understand basic logic and scientific ideas. That being said, I do not naturally have an engineer's mind. I complained about this to my friend the ME one day, saying my audio cables are being angry, my telephone keeps wrapping itself tighter, my controllers are a mess.

      He shook his head and lifted up a controller by its free end (the end that connects to the console). He held it up high. To my amazement, it began to spinning. After a few seconds, it stopped spinning, and he laid it down. "There, now it won't wind up." I aws amazed at this release of Torquential Controller Energy and have since been obsessed with released the TCE from any cables I can find.

      Now, to the educated inteeligent elite of Slashdot (those apparently, with user IDs 138059 and under) the reckless childlike wonder that the hoi polloi of society attributes to these facts must be laughable. But I thought it was damn cool. Now, folding cables? Give me a folding proteins story any day over folding cables. Last I need this to be is PcCaseTechExtremeHardwareForumz.net.

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    2. Re:Folding cables by Otter · · Score: 2
      Now, to the educated inteeligent elite of Slashdot (those apparently, with user IDs 138059 and under) the reckless childlike wonder that the hoi polloi of society attributes to these facts must be laughable.

      No offense, but I discovered that when I was five. All my parents phone cords were permanently kink free from that day on, and one of my great joys was going to someone else's house and having a new, monumentally twisted cord to spin loose.

      And that's why today I'm a socially dysfunctional nerd, errr, prominent member of the Slashdot elite. And I still untangle other people's cords.

  15. do you use glue or ductape for it by Mariani · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The first thing that sprang to mind when I saw the picture was 'did they use glue for this?' And what kind of glue or ductape would work without dissolving the cables or turning them to a permanent sticky mess?
    Does anyone else have experience with this?

    1. Re:do you use glue or ductape for it by martingunnarsson · · Score: 2, Informative

      The cables will stay the way you fold them without glue or anything, especially the 80 wire cables. The older 40 wire cables are a bit softer, but still OK. You should always use 80 wire cables anyway.

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  16. News? by cheezemonkhai · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are a few options here:

    1) Use SATA/SAS/Fiber connectors

    2) Buy rounded versions of the parralel cables

    3) - Carefully shred the normal cables,
    - Wrap them in foil if you want
    - Wrap them in some pipe/heat shrink.

    Then all you do is bend the things and run them around the case with cable ties.

    How on earth is this news?
    Thats like saying use cables of only the length you need to make less clutter in your case.

  17. Nothing? by 91degrees · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can think of a lot of things that are worst (or even worse) than dangling cables. Being put through a mincing machine while someone was playing a scratched George Fornby record, for example.

  18. The Cold Farting Bale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe the editor meant "The Art: Cable Folding", or "The Art Cable, Folding". It would have been nice if the editor had taken some more time proofing, then the poor bastard who runs the linked site could have finished his coffee before having to extinguish the remains of his server.

  19. worst by X_Bones · · Score: 3, Funny

    Nothing is worst than a bunch of dangling cables inside your computer case.

    ...except maybe your spelling?


    I kid, I kid...

  20. Tricks I know by Apreche · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here are some tricks I use to fold and hide cable in my pc.

    First, any ribbon cables usually go from motherboard to drive, and not a very long distance. This leaves a lot of slack ribbon. Fold up the slack and tuck it into a space in-between drives or in an emtpy 3.5" drive bay.

    Circle around back. Most modern cases have a pull out try with the motherboard on it. Then there is a metal frame and then there is another piece of metal which is the right side panel of the case. There are many things that need to go from the top of the case to the bottom Such as power cables for your front intake fan and such. Route these wires in-between the metal frame and the right side panel. Nobody can see them back there unless it is an all acrylic case.

    The emtpy 5.25" drive bays, if any, are a great place to put extra wiring. My PSU has many many more wires than I use, so far. So I take them all and just put them in the empty space under my dvd burner. The ribbon cable for the burner also travels into this space and then out of it again just a couple inches from the ide plug on the motherboard. Think of it as a bucket to put unused wires in where nobody can see them.

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  21. Folding cables. by AndyCap · · Score: 5, Funny

    You got to know when to hold'em, know when to fold'em, know when to walk away and know when to run.

  22. Is this where computer building is going? by shoppa · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Thirty years ago, if you built a computer it meant you went out and bought transistors, resistors, chips, etched a PC board, soldered them together, and toggled in your operating system. Then you hooked up a surplus teletype and built your own floppy disk subsystem.

    Today, computer building is dominated by "tech" articles about... folded cables.

    THIS ISN'T PROGRESS, PEOPLE!

    1. Re:Is this where computer building is going? by fizban · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ah, so when you light a fire, do you prefer rubbing two sticks together rather than just lighting a match?

      That's a kooky idea of progress.

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  23. Voodoo? by dorward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The server has been slashdotted, so maybe someone who got to it early can tell me:

    "Do Voodoo Cable Folds involve a rubber chicken with a pulley in the middle?"

  24. Unfolded cabling is the best ... by tchiwam · · Score: 2, Funny

    Since I always compile everything with -funroll-loops I can't roll and fold my wires. Electrons do miss the curve if cables are bent too much you know !!!!

    Then, my office near the stairs, and I see NO point in preventing natural accidents like an IT manager falling down.

    BOFH

  25. It's fantastic progress by samael · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It means that more than 0.01% of people can put a computer together.

    It means that people have time for doing something more productive than toggling dip-switches in order to get the OS into RAM.

    I mean, sure, folding cable doesn't excite me at all, but I want computers to be easier to use, not go back to the days of punch-cards.

  26. What's this? by Art+Cable · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm folding?

  27. Mirror dot only shows the first page by samjam · · Score: 2, Informative

    Mirror dot only shows the first page
    Grr

  28. Mirror (sorta kinda...) by CyBot · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not a perfect mirror, but you can at least read the text on the first page of the article and see a pic
    http://www.mirrordot.org/stories/a662ce777aff44721 a78a32880232a7e/index.html

  29. Nothing is worst? by night_flyer · · Score: 3, Funny

    I always though brat was worst

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  30. Ultimate Troll by pklong · · Score: 5, Funny

    This story could be the ultimate Slashdot troll, think about it:

    1. Put a worthless story up on the front page.
    2. Add grammatical mistakes.
    2. Turn the server off once it makes it to the front page.

    Watch as the worthless, pointless discussion racks up posts 99.9% of which are on the 3 subjects above.

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  31. so where do we go by samjam · · Score: 2, Funny

    If slashdot is stale, no doubt the new hangout place is kept secret to keep the wannabes that supposedly infect slashdot from following.

    Wonder why no-one told me... :-)

    Sam

    1. Re:so where do we go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      O.K, but what's the top story on technocrat.net?

      The coveted Perens Endorsement goes to...

      I recommend John Kerry. The United States needs a president with respect for freedom. That's not George Bush. And we need a strong leader with..


      Argh! It has the most comments out of any article on the front page as well, by a wide margin.

      I'm looking for IT, science and technology. No Politics or "Rights", please!

  32. Re:OF by ExKoopaTroopa · · Score: 2, Funny

    yeah, poor Art get's a lot of that ...

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  33. More Tricks (the REAL art of cable folding) by base_chakra · · Score: 4, Informative

    In the world of roadies and pro audio nerds, there's a method for cable folding/wrapping that I learned years ago. It's popularly called the "over/under method".

    The idea is to wrap the cable in such a way that, when thrown, it will unravel perfectly without any knots or tangles; but it's still useful for smaller cables because it trains the shielding in such a way that promotes flexibility and prevents twists, curves, and tangles.

    Stagecraft has a video demonstration of how to do it (QuickTime, AVI, RealMedia), and the Internet Sound Institute has a tutorial with diagrams.

  34. Nothing is worse? by wcrowe · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nothing is worst than a bunch of dangling cables inside your computer case.

    Are you sure there aren't maybe at least a few things worst[sic] than a bunch of dangling cables? Fire? Flood? Prostate cancer?

    Are dangling cables really such a travesty? Do we need to hold a telethon or something?

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  35. Re:More Tricks (the REAL art of cable folding) by JUSTONEMORELATTE · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In the world of roadies and pro audio nerds, there's a method for cable folding/wrapping that I learned years ago. It's popularly called the "over/under method".

    The idea is to wrap the cable in such a way that, when thrown, it will unravel perfectly without any knots or tangles; but it's still useful for smaller cables because it trains the shielding in such a way that promotes flexibility and prevents twists, curves, and tangles.


    I'm a part-time audio nerd, but I manage a fairly good-sized PA system (24ch/4buss mixer, 800w mains, 250w monitors, for those who care)
    The trick is, I was trained by a leftie. I'm right handed, but I learned to coil cables left-handed.

    A musician friend once "helped" me by coiling all the mic cables. He's a climber, so he knows the over-under method, but when I tossed a cable it came out a completely twisted mess.

    When I complained, he pointed out that he's also a volunteer firefighter, and there's a method he knows for coiling ropes such that, when thrown, they have a knot every 12 inches. "If you prefer, I can coil 'em up that way."

    He's not allowed to help me anymore.

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  36. SMRT by Zillatron · · Score: 2, Funny
    I love it when people try to make a "I'm better than you, I would have never made that bandwidth mistake!" style reply to a post, but can't even spell things correctly. That sure makes you look SMRT!
    I kid you not, there was a candidate on the ballot in my disctrict this morning named SMRT. I'd like to buy a vowel please.