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Halo 2 Retail Date Broken in Midwest

Thanks to c0nrad, who alerted us to a Gamespot article stating that Halo 2's launch date has been broken by a Midwestern store. From the article: "Several reports on the Gaming Age forums--which included photos of the limited edition of the game--said that several individual Meijer stores, a self-described grocery and general merchandise retailer that operates in Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, and Kentucky, were selling the game early. However, calls made by GameSpot to several Meijer outlets made it sound like the franchise was sticking to the deadline." The reader continues: "Despite that, Ebay auctions have already gone up, with one having already reached $265!"

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  1. $265? by BlueCodeWarrior · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would anyone pay $265 for Halo 2? 1. It's on the Internet if you want it now. 2. If you're that much of a Halo fanatic, you've got Halo 2 preordered. Which means you're garunteed a copy in 4 days at 1/5th of that price. Is there something I'm missing here?

    1. Re:$265? by retrev · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Collectors might want this "special" copy. There are people with too much money and too little sense.

    2. Re:$265? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Your missing 2 things
      1. The copy that is available on the internet cannot play online.
      2. People are morons.

      Hope that helps

    3. Re:$265? by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 4, Funny

      Obviously there's a benefit to buying a copy on Ebay (auction closing in another seven days, plus 7-10 days for transaction and delivery). I mean, why wait four whole days when you could wait two weeks?

    4. Re:$265? by UnrefinedLayman · · Score: 4, Funny

      1. The copy that is available on the internet cannot play online.

      Gee, I sure wish *I* could be one of the three other people that's able to play online.

    5. Re:$265? by HiredMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not to mention that XBox live will probably ban you and send people to your house and shave your dog for trying to play a game on-line that hasn't been released yet.

      And you'd deserve it for logging into a Microsoft server running a Microsoft program that isn't (supposed to be) available yet to advertise that you have it.
      w00+! 1m l33+!

      That's like clicking "Yes - Check to see if my software is legal" on the M$ site when you're running a pirated copy.

      =tkk

    6. Re:$265? by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 4, Funny

      They said it wouldn't invade my privacy. And if you can't trust Microsoft, who can you trust?

    7. Re:$265? by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 4, Funny
      500 dollar reward for tip(s) leading to the arrest of the person(s) who stole my sig.

      You'll never catch me.

    8. Re:$265? by nolife · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So you are saying that the customer is responsible to know the details of a contract between the Microsoft and the retailer? Because MS has a magazine ad that says something will be released on a certain day has absolutely nothing to do with the contract between two companies. I suppose you are also saying that the customer is responsible to listen to all commericails and advertisements and should just know what a certain release date is? The last time you bought a candy bar from the grocery store, did you have any idea about the contracts and release dates for that product? How about when you last bought gas, did you know the parent company had a contract with your local gas station to sell it for $2/gal but they were actually selling it for $1.95. Are you liable for that contract discrepency between them? Why should you be obligated to know about a release date of a piece of software. You are not a party to the contract. Dealing in stolen goods is a crime, a "do not sale before this date" is a contract violation, two completely different things.
      Your agruement makes no legal sense if you step back and look at it BIG PICTURE.

      San Andreas started selling at 7:00PM the night before the official release date at my local mall. I picked one up. I have NO idea what their contract states and I did nothing wrong by buying it then.

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    9. Re:$265? by gvonk · · Score: 3, Funny

      Conslutant.
      Holy shit.
      That is the most accurate name I have ever heard.

      I hope it WASN'T a typo.

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  2. dont kid yourself by spacerodent · · Score: 4, Interesting

    most these ebay "sales" wont ever pay up. They bid on several of the games and then will pay for the lowest one they won, if at all. A lot of the people bidding are deliberatly waisting the sellers time "to make it fair" so no one gets the game early. Yes I know it's a jackass thing to do but thats what at least one guy said he was doing.

  3. Um, who cares? by EvilMagnus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The game has already gone gold. MS and Bungie will still get money from the sales. Some rubes on eBay will be out some more $$$ just for bragging rights. All that will happen is that some PR prick will feel as though their spectacular launch day has been violated.

    But tomorrow, the sun will still rise and Halo 2 will remain just a game.

    The bees, on the other hand... the bees will soon control the world.

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  4. Off to eBay by JUSTONEMORELATTE · · Score: 4, Funny

    /me creating a new auction for Halo ][ on eBay.

    (please note that the auction ends on November 10)

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  5. Ebay? by sdo1 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Ebay auctions have already gone up, with one having already reached $265!

    Repeat after me. "It's just a game".

    Sheesh

    -S

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  6. Pirates by alaeth · · Score: 4, Interesting

    wow, some people really can't wait. 260 bucks for a couple days early release? Probably not when you factor in shipping time/auction closure/ et all.

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  7. Halo Outlaws by slumpy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At the EBgames I work at we have around 10 or so big boxes with Halo 2 and the strategy guides.....so it's no surprise people are selling it early. It's tempting as hell to take one home.

    Each of the shrink-wrapped game cases has a sticker....under the shrink-wrap, that says "DO NOT SELL UNTIL 11/9/04." I've never seen a game this hyped or this heavily protected. Hope you all pre-ordered.

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    1. Re:Halo Outlaws by ivan256 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hope you all pre-ordered.

      Why, because you're going to keep the extra copies under lock and key until 11/10 to "teach people a lesson" about preordering?

      The EBGames in my local mall had "zero" copies of GTA San Andreas at 9:00 PM on release day if you hadn't pre-oredered, but dozens the next morning. Luckily Wal-Mart doesn't pull such stupid crap, and I was able to get one of their 100+ copies the day the game came out. You really expect me to believe that with how many copies they're hoping to sell of this game that they aren't shipping enough to retailers? Halo 2 won't be sold out. It's the games that *aren't* expected to sell well that you need to pre-order.

    2. Re:Halo Outlaws by period3 · · Score: 5, Funny
      Each of the shrink-wrapped game cases has a sticker....under the shrink-wrap, that says "DO NOT SELL UNTIL 11/9/04." I've never seen a game this hyped or this heavily protected.


      Yeah, those stickers are deadly guardians. I tried peeling one off once, and I cut myself pretty bad. Almost bled to death.

  8. Oh my! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Halo 2 has been spotted! I'm peeing my panties! This is almost as good as the Cabbage Patch kids hype.

  9. Why discourage sales? by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why not let stores sell it when they have it? It kind of makes software industry whines about piracy losses ring hollow when the product is sitting there in the stores and the software company is prohibiting stores from selling it. There is also the message of "want to buy it? Forget about it: we're sitting on the boxes for now. You'll have to scan Kazaa for a cracked copy."

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    1. Re:Why discourage sales? by Kaboom13 · · Score: 4, Informative

      They make an agreement with the stores to ship the game early, but they cannot sell it until release date. This way all the stores across the country can start selling it on the same day. If you don't agree, they don't ship to you until just before the release date, so you dont get it until on or after the release date. This way ensures a nationwide simultaneous release, which maximizes release-date hype and the effect of release date advertizing. Stores like it because there is plenty of time to fix shipping problems without missing out on all the release date sales and pissing off their pre-order customers. It also stops the first shop to get it from hiking up the price and taking advantage of the situation. Stores voluntarily enter into these agreements as they benefit everyone, although some stores break them from time to time (either intentionally or by mistake).

  10. As someone famous once said... by lpangelrob2 · · Score: 4, Informative
    ...whoops.

    Meijer, for those who don't know (and since they're a regional store, I suppose there would be many that don't), is the name of a chain of stores that are individually frickin' huge. They're compete directly with Wal-Mart and Target. So if Microsoft/Bungie decides to stop giving Meijer their software/hardware to sell, I think Meijer would just say 'boo-hoo'... they've still got hundreds of aisles of clothing, food, other companies' software, and housewares to make a profit from.

    Will it come to a lawsuit? Maybe. Would it be worth Microsoft's time? Probably not, but that is a question left up for debate.

  11. People are stupid by Aash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, there is something you're missing: the fact that most people are idiots. Remember when the PS2 came out, and was sold out everywhere? And it was selling for triple or quadruple what it was worth on eBay? And this was despite the fact that the PS2 didn't have a single decent launch game. Some people just have to have the latest thing now now NOW, even when it flies in the face of logic.

    So yeah, I'm not surprised that people are paying ridiculous amounts just to have it a few days early. People can be really stupid sometimes.

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    1. Re:People are stupid by DaHat · · Score: 4, Informative

      selling for triple or quadruple what it was worth on eBay

      I take it you've never taken a basic economics course. If a foo sells for price x in the store and plenty of people buy it, it is worth it. However should the same foo be sold on eBay for more than x, say 10*x and someone is willing to pay that much... is the foo worth x or 10*x? the answer... is 10*x. Why? Because if someone is willing to pay a price, it is worth it to them.

      Even today, PS2's and Xboxes cost a given amount which is far lower than in pass, however they are still not worth that amount to me, so, I do not buy them.

      Ultimately, worth has nothing to do with what price a retailer puts on a product, it is what both parties are willing to buy for and sell for.

    2. Re:People are stupid by dcocos · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, there is something you're missing: the fact that most people are idiots

      Yes and by most you mean 59,459,765 (in the US at least)

    3. Re:People are stupid by Mordaximus · · Score: 4, Insightful
      And this was despite the fact that the PS2 didn't have a single decent launch game.

      You mean besides SSX, Madden and Time Splitters? It didn't have many launch titles, but most were good. We're talking about, at the time, a next generation console with a few decent launch titles, that blows away previous consoles, that you can play PS1 games on AND use as a DVD player with optical out. That at the time would cost as much as an old console + a DVD player. Why on earth would anyone want that in time for Christmas?

    4. Re:People are stupid by dykofone · · Score: 4, Funny

      Keep in mind that number represents only registered idiots.

  12. Re:Violation by phorm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Most likely, and probably there will be consequences for the store. What scores me though, is that if sufficient hype is generated and/or enough keeners actually bought the early release for such heavily inflated prices, we might start seeing a trend. If game manufacturers or stores get the idea that they can sell pre-releases at 3x-4x the street value, we'll probably see them trying this as part of business in the future.

    HL2 is great and all, but don't feed the sharks guys!

  13. Re:Priorities by Kenja · · Score: 4, Funny
    "Surely an undersexed geek can think of a better way to blow $265????"

    Like spending a half hour with a 500$ an hour hooker?

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  14. Happens all the time.... by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This happens all the time. I myself got the Tron Collector's DVD at Walmart 2 days before (wasn't realy looking for it, but I saw it and realized it was early and picked it up anyway...). Usually the way it goes is EBGames, or Meijer or some other retailer will have some low wage guy accidently pop it in the case and start selling it. It wasn't his fault. Then people will see it, think it's out, and go to thier favorite store and ask them about it. Most managers of these stores figures well if one store is selling it, then I sure as hell am going to make a sale as well. Then it just goes by local gamer grapevine and the day before the release date, everyone has it out for sale. I honestly don't understand why they do things like this. If it's not supposed to come out til X date, why ship it so it's sitting in the store room for 3 days? I doubt Meijer will have anything happen to them. They sell too many Xboxes and game for Microsoft for Microsoft to even care. For all we know, it may be a stunt being pulled by Microsoft....i mean the game was advertised by ilovebees.

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  15. Big deal... by Rorschach1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    J'avais joué le Halo 2 pendant deux semaines, et appris à parler français, aussi!

  16. Reminds Me by techsoldaten · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Reminds me of how I got my Playstation 2. This happened about three days before they were officially released.

    A friend of mine is general manager of an unnamed software retail store, and he owed me for money I loaned him to get his car fixed. He called and told me to come by the store. He handed me a PS2, the most recent version of Madden, a hockey game and a couple of others. It sucked because you could not buy the extra dual shock controller yet, so he popped open another box and gave me the one from there.

    Just because a store has a release date in mind, does not mean people's agendas change.

    M

  17. LAUGH! by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Informative
    No x-box for you -- I am guessing that Meijer stores will no longer be selling x-box related materials.

    Meijer, for those unfamiliar is a BIG BOX store chain which probably moves a significant portion of video games.

    The chain started, ages ago in the Holland/Grand Rapids area as Meijer Thrifty Acres, with a dutchboy in wooden shoes and pageboy haircut nicknamed Thrifty, as the mascot. It's like pairing Safeway and Target stores, food and general merchandise.

    When they built one of these in my former home town of Midland, MI, it nearly killed all the other grocery stores in the city.

    Don't kid yourself that Meijer would suffer some injuction. They're simply so big the left hand and right hand don't quite reach each other.

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  18. The consumers. by pavon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Are there 'release dates' for white goods?

    Of course not, they are practically commodities. People only shop for them when they move into a house or the old one dies, and no-one cares about being the first to get the latest kenmore.

    But video game and movie consumers really do want to get the game/movie as soon as they can. The producers encourage this, but the demand would exist even without their encouragement. They are not controlling demand by having a first day of sale - it is logically impossible not to have a first day that a product is available.

    If they did do what you said and allowed stores to sell as soon as they got it, that would artificially limit supply on the first days, allowing lucky retailers to gouge people that were willing to buy it, and hurting the sales of unlucky stores whose shipment arrived a day latter.

    Given there is demand for a popular game, and that there has to be a first time that it is available, the most fair thing to do - for the retailers and the customers - is to make it available for all the retailers to sell on the same day.

  19. Never seen Slashdot by ribo-bailey · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...so excited over a Microsoft software release.

  20. Re:Actually.... by HiredMan · · Score: 5, Funny
    The interesting question is not "Why would Micorsoft punish the user?".

    The answers to that are:
    A: Because they can
    B: It is their core competency
    C: Bill was picked on as a kid
    D: Developers! Developers! Developers!
    E: All of the above

    Instead the interesting question is "Why does the user choose to be punished by Microsoft?"

    =tkk

    PS For everyone that missed it I was posting at least _a little_ tongue in cheek. Except the part about the dog - that really happened to a friend of a friend of mine. Really. Completely shaved.

  21. Why would Microsoft punish the user? by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny
    "The interesting question is not "Why would Micorsoft punish the user?".

    Those of us who have used "Windows ME" asked that many times.

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