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Fedora Core Release 3 Released
anyweb writes "Fedora Core Release 3 is out now, Heidelberg, 2.6.9-1.667 kernel, Firefox included ! Gnome 2.8 and more.
Here are
some screenshots" New release includes Gnome 2.8, KDE 3.3, Kernel 2.6.9, Firefox PR1, Thunderbird 0.8, Ximian Evolution 2.0 and more. Here is a Mirror List and Bit Torrent
Great news.
The dissapointing thing is how often Fedora major releases come out. Makes the lives of those of us who have to keep up with it quite difficult. We just got used to FC2 and now FC3's out! :-)
Why didn't they wait 1 more day for the 1.0 final?
They are using you to test the system so that their enterprise customers will get the quality that they expect.
It is a really cheap way of doing quality control.
The Internet is full. Go Away!!!
Whats with all these screenshots for distro releases - what exactly are people looking at? All I see is gnome or kde that could be running on anything. Are the distro-specific wallpapers that intresting?
when most of the time more or less of all linux distributions look the same,if they are all customized the same. And here on Slashdot I'm sure everyone already know what things look like in almost all the different window managers.
Despite this, we still decide to slashdot their screenies site!
It's always a fancy desktop with cute icons, a shot of OpenOffice, one of GIMP, and then the rest are all of a thousand xterms opened up.
They end up showcasing the lack of good linux desktop applications, it's pretty funny if you're not a zealot.
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
apparently, debian doesnt care about "competition"
Yes, but for those of us without ready-made ext3 partitions, it's a problem. Can't install linux straight into empty space.
And using Knoppix/similar and QTParted (which i've not had any troubles with) is rather backwards. If people want linux to be taken seriously, they need to make it play nicely with the big boys until people are ready (or able -- until there's native GTK or QT versions of Flash, Photoshop and Illustrator, I can't switch to it full-time, and I refuse to use WINE and/or the Gimp) to switch to it permanantly.
sure there is, it's the top-most link, in fact.
Since when do you need X to install/upgrade fedora?
Are there any honest-to-goodness technical reasons why yum is the better choice?
Because apt for RPM was a hack. Was not built from the ground up to work for RPM where as YUM was. Yum was nowhere near apt in functionality but it is getting there. Maybe Fedora is stubborn in using apt for the same reason Debian was stubborn in using anaconda. It was written by "them".
-- "of course thats just my opinion, I could be wrong." --Dennis Miller
Nice plug for ubuntu on a fedora thread. If you're not 'trying' to troll a flamewar you sure don't think much.
-- "of course thats just my opinion, I could be wrong." --Dennis Miller
also note that the dvd install seems so much faster than the cd install. Doing a 2gb install seems to take about 15 min with a dvd, and 20-30 min with cd.
Is it possible to install FCx with some sort of net installer so you dont need to download the full iso set? ie. get a small iso that contains a bare install and download the rest as you go?
If you want to set up a thin desktop with only a limited number of apps (GUI, browser, openoffice, email client, XMMS), it seems a waste to download 2+ GB of iso's full of stuff you will probably never use. And because FC is so bleeding edge, by the time you do need package XYZ, there is likely an updated version in the repository anyways...
Other distros (eg. Debian, Suse) do this and it's very convienent. I like to try out different distros but the idea of downloading a full CD set for something I'll only kick around for fun turns me off.
The joke would work better if you used Free Software instead of Open Source.
"The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers." Bill Gates,
Fedora Core comes without the African Philosophy software layer, which not to offend our African Philosophy lovers out there, probably makes the software more stable. :)
But seriously, Fedora is heavily tested, backed by large corporations, retains independence from total corporate control, and the distro to watch if you're interested in what might be in the next RedHat release.
Ubuntu is well... lacking in many of these areas.
If anybody at SC2004 (Supercomputing 2004) in Pittsburg (currently in progress) Is reading this, get somebody on the floor with a big RAID box and a 10 GigE connection to join the torrent!
t ml
It's like an alignment of stars! SC2004 bandwidth challenge and Fedora Core 3 released at the same time!
http://www.sc-conference.org/sc2004/bandwidth.h
yea baby! 8 OC-192s....for a limited time only!
Rather than manually editing your /etc/yum.conf to point to FC3, it might be better just to download the fedora-release package from FC3, update that using RPM, and then proceed to update yum and then the whole system.
There's no point in questioning authority if you aren't going to listen to the answers.
-selinux is enabled by default & *just works*
This is the major point that is being missed by many here. Even if you think other LSM systems are better, even if you prefer some non LSM Mandatory Access Control system like RSBAC is better, you have to agree that any MAC system is a huge step forward for Linux security.
It doesn't even matter that the default SELinux policy for FC3 is very permissive (mostly it only places constraints of various daemons), what matters is that a major distribution has a Mandatory Access Control system in place by default.
This matter because it helps get developer buy in. That means more applications fixed so they don't do silly things that break under such systems, that means more developers actually using such systems to compartmentalize and strengthen the security of the applications themselves. This matter because right now we already have the architecture - several implementations of it in fact (SELinux, LIDS, RSBAC), what we don't have is applications that respect such systems, nor applications that take advantage of the extra security such system provide. As long as that is the case, we really aren't that much better off. People need to be paying attention to SELinux, and systems like it, and programming to use, or at the very least respect, such systems. Once that happens the difference between security in Linux and Windows really will be a night and day comparison.
This is a huge win for Linux if we can get it up and running, so let's take the time to make it work! Congratulations to everyone on the Fedora SELinux project! You've done a fantastic job, Thanks!
Jedidiah.
Craft Beer Programming T-shirts
The water it heats is cold water. Therefore it is a heater of cold water, or, in other words, a cold water heater. It is not really a heater of hot water.
So the original poster wins that one, sorry.
The Suprnova post was for an RC released Oct-29. See this redhat.com link. If you dowloaded the suprnova torrent, erase it and start again from the official torrent site. If you're not sure, md5sum your results and compare them to the official ones.