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Fedora Core Release 3 Released

Posted by CmdrTaco on from the stuff-to-play-with dept.

anyweb writes "Fedora Core Release 3 is out now, Heidelberg, 2.6.9-1.667 kernel, Firefox included ! Gnome 2.8 and more. Here are some screenshots" New release includes Gnome 2.8, KDE 3.3, Kernel 2.6.9, Firefox PR1, Thunderbird 0.8, Ximian Evolution 2.0 and more. Here is a Mirror List and Bit Torrent

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  1. Time to Upgrade by a3217055 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder what is the bestway to upgrade to FC3 from FC2 ... Maybe just use apt and yum to upgrade :)

    1. Re:Time to Upgrade by 0x537461746943 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There are things that anaconda might do that just upgrading RPMS would not. I used yum to upgrade from RH9 to FC2 and it did work, but there were very strange beehaviors from some things afterwards. The fact that Fedora does not test using yum to upgrade a system from FC2 to FC3 should be reason enough to stay away from unless you have a ton of spare time to track down the strange little inconsistencies that crop up and the system being upgraded is not critical.

    2. Re:Time to Upgrade by batkiwi · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I asked about this on the list for FC1 to FC2, and the developers SPECIFICALLY said DO NOT DO THIS.

      I trust them over you.

  2. Competition by Donoho · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is it just me or are there enough high profile distros available now to keep them all pushing a little harder to stay current. I like it.

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    Michalangelo Progr
  3. So.... by _undan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Did they fix that little problem of the install process hosing drive geometry tables so that Windows won't load anymore?

  4. Enterprise? by Espectr0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If fedora is the base for which RHEL gets developed, why do they keep releasing new versions? When do they decide which fedora release gets frozen to develop RHEL 4?

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    Open Source Java Web Forum with LDAP authentication
  5. Monitor Swarm Speed? by GnuPooh · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I'm curious about how high the swarm speed with get for the torrent. How can we monitor it? The Duke site doesn't list those stats.

  6. Fedora Core 3 Thoughts by jsav40 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I had all three test versions of FC3 running and am very much looking forward to installing the release version.

    Inpressions from the test releases

    -selinux is enabled by default & *just works*
    -firefox (finally) is included in Fedora Core proper
    -automounting bahavior of usb keys, external HDDs etc. is greatly improved
    -Totem has been added
    -Yum has been greatly improved (faster)
    -works well on the two laptops I tested it on
    (IBM T20, CPQ Armada M700
    -Better wifi support built in

    1. Re:Fedora Core 3 Thoughts by JianTian13 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      -Yum has been greatly improved (faster)
      Really? I'd love for this to be true -- Yum is so dog-ass slow that it makes installing a new Fedora system from scratch a full-day's undertaking, because before it downloads any patches, it insists on separately downloading uncompressed headers for every fucking package in the release. And then it checks for new headers each and every time I tell it to install a new package. If they've fixed this behavior... Well, yum might actually start approaching the usability of apt.

      Yes, that's a flame and a troll. But in all seriousness, can anyone point me to an explanation as to why yum was chosen as the update tool, over say something like apt-rpm? Are there any honest-to-goodness technical reasons why yum is the better choice? Or is it just inertia at this point?
    2. Re:Fedora Core 3 Thoughts by Jagasian · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That is not a technical reason. The "hack" as you call it works perfectly well, has nice graphical frontends and many other associated tools. Anaconda is not used by Debian for a host of technical reasons, mainly being that it does not support all of the architectures that Debian must support.

      Apt for RPM supports everything RPM and Fedora need, so yum is just different for the sake of being different. Yet another Linux distro fork. If Fedora would go apt, then that would do allot to mend the rift between RPM/DEB based distros, as mostly, from the end user's point of view, installing, removing, and updating packages is done through a GUI like Synaptic.

      yum is not the right direction for Fedora. apt is a better standard, as it makes Linux distros as a whole more standardized for the user.

  7. Firewire Support? by leinhos · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Can anyone comment on the level of Firewire support in FC3? I tried to get FW working with FC2, but eventually gave up...

  8. Question: by RLiegh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is there a way to do a network install of fedora? I'm not sure why, but every cd I download is corrupted and unusable; so installing from cd is pointless for me.

    Thanx. :)

  9. How it compares to Ubuntu? by Koyaanisqatsi · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Anyone care to explain how it fares againt http://www.ubuntulinux.org/?

    I've been wanting to try a linux desktop for a while and I had a mixed opinion with Fedora Core 1, not I'm not sure wich one of the two to pick - since I don't have that much time to commit, I can't try both and compare ...

  10. Fedora by digitaltraveller · · Score: 1, Interesting

    How do you apt-get dist upgrade with Fedora? --Don't ask.

    Wierd since, Fedora decided to copy Debian's mistaken policy of offering three software troves called stable,testing and unstable.

    When are they going to learn, users want ONE package tree, with the ability to migrate between versions and patches.

    SURE, you'll say. Fedora is just Red Hat's loss leader product to wedge people into RHEL.

    But wait until someone who has a superior understanding of the marketplace comes along and evaporates RH's marketshare. Then they will wish they'd had a better view of the market than 'per-ass proprietary enterprise linux'.

    Otherwise a solid release from the folks at RH. Release Notes.

  11. Re:firefox pr1 by Soko · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ummmm...

    After the final of Firefox has actually been released, and been through the Fedora QA process, a simple "yum -y update" will get it for you.

    Everyone has a schedule that they like to stick to.

    Soko

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    "Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm." - Anonymous
  12. Vector Graphics in Linux. (before Windows, btw) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    You want to know my favorite "brand new thing" with Gnome 2.8?

    Vector-based graphics games like solitare. I know it's a small thing, but it's sooo purty.

    Well for a card game. It's a small thing, but it's going to be cool once people start porting things wholesale over to vector graphics once it gets established.

    Imagine: No more conflict between resolution/text size/desktop space.

    Also for the programmers in here check out the new support for dbus and HAL in Gnome. Shadows of things to come in future revisions.

    It's not a huge difference over 2.6, but it's a nice improvement with lots and lots of little refinements.

  13. Re:fiiiinally by Pros_n_Cons · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Don't forget about the binary DVD folks, It's much cooler not having to switch CD's during install, or waste 4 CD's

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    -- "of course thats just my opinion, I could be wrong." --Dennis Miller
  14. Re:firefox pr1 by Zorilla · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I still don't think it would have made it. The Linux versions of Firefox seems to be trailing behind the Windows releases as of late. My memory is fuzzy, but I think wasn't able to upgrade to 1.0PR on Linux until a couple weeks later than I did on Windows.

    Unless they're planning a synchonized release of the binaries or something for both Windows and Linux.

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    It would be cool if it didn't suck.
  15. Time for standard kernels in these releases by Viol8 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    If the kernels are good enough for linus they should be good enough for these guys. 2.69-1.665?? Wtf? These days in any new dist other than slackware I bin the fscked up kernel that comes with it an install a stock one as I don't like surprises from we-can-do-it-better-than-the-main-team hacker code.

    1. Re:Time for standard kernels in these releases by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Me too. I want them to backport clear kernel fixes and driver additions to the older kernel, rather than publishing a fresh-off-the-presses and not yet stable kernel and forcing me to do a forklift upgrade of my kernels or hand roll my own patches. This is what RedHat gets paid for.

  16. 2.3GB? by thisisauniqueid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why is this a little over half the size of FC2?

  17. Two things, please answer. by XO · · Score: 2, Interesting

    First:
    Slashdot is now using banner advertisements that load Java. This came as quite a surprise to me, as my browser suddenly started paging out to disk, and freaked out for almost 5 minutes while it loaded Java, and ran a component that promptly crashed Java. That's just a comment. If anyone in admin cares, please fix it. Java is bad. Still.

    Second:

    Any suggestions on properly using apt-get to upgrade from FC1 to FC2 or FC3? I finally got apt-get to upgrde from X11 to XORG, and that caused my entire X system to not function.. so, looking for some help with the rest. lol

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    "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
  18. Question: Mandrake or Fedora? by schroedlzone · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Curious on what you guys would suggest.

    I desire to use linux 100% on my laptop. I've been a windoze peon for eons and I'm slowing becoming familiar with the console. I installed Mandrake 10.1 Community on my laptop and have been running it for 2 weeks and have done a lot with it (nVidia driver install, Samba shares, KDE customization, etc). The problem is that my Mandrake KDE (3.2) has many mysterious crashes of certain apps (konqueror) and many fustrating slowdowns for no good reason.
    I like mandrake's system control panels and it detects all my strange usb hardware but these crashes are all too random. Would Fedora be a better bet?

  19. Re:Fedora Core Release 3 Released? by Miniluv · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The poster should be ashamed of attempting to mock an English faux pas without first veryfing the veracity of the faux pas.

    Fedora Core Release 3 is a noun. The verb "to release" conjugated into the past tense of "released" was then applied to the noun Fedora Core Release 3. This is entirely correct and non-redundant. The fact that the noun uses the word release in its name has nothing to do with having the past tense action "released" performed upon it.

    Also, a "Hot Water Heater" is non-redundant as well. Hot Water does not, in my universe, magically instantiate itself as hot water. Instead it starts out as water, is heated in a vessel of some sort (mine is a metal cylinder lined with glass), then held at temperature until requested somewhere downline in the plumbing system.

    Yes, this is very pedantic of me, however seeing something marked +5 funny when in fact its more like +5 ridiculous stupid, annoys the shit out of me.

    I suppose there's the possibility the parent is an attempt humor. If so, well, perhaps it should've been funny.

  20. Re:Multiple - 8 OC-192's available at SC2004 by Danathar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well..probably so...but 80Gb/s of aggregate bandwidth is still nothing to sneeze at. Remember that the current single connection speed for any connection (land speed record over internet 2) is at around 6.5 Gb/s

    http://www.infosatellite.com/news/2004/09/p13090 4i nternet2.html

    More importantly. SC is one of the places each year that Networking companies use to test new gear. The convention encourages people to use the bandwidth for anything as long as its legal since they are demoing equipment and gear.

    I say if they have the bandwidth available for this week...why not use it.

    It's not like I'm trying to get anybody to buy anything

  21. Re:NFS by mbbac · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I choose to install Fedora by downloading the DVD image over BitTorrent on my PowerMac. Mounting the DVD image and dragging the files into ~/Sites/install/. Then I can boot my old Gateway system using a boot CD and install from my Mac's Apache server (i.e. http://192.168.1.2/~mbbac/install/).

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    mbbac