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Halo 2 Released
mjxg writes "Halo 2 has finally hit the shelves for hardcore fans. VNUnet speaks about the long lines and the 12:01am release that many stores participated in. Many people obtained the Limited Collector's Edition. Eventually we'll get word of the final first day sales to see if Halo 2 can top the sales charts for the year, or possibly become the most popular console game in history. It is already estimated to top the all-time opening day entertainment sales charts."
playing Halo 2.
They're making a sequel to Halo? I hadn't noticed
It ain't the real deal without a mouse & keyboard. That's like having sex with a blow-up doll ... (or so I've heard)
I just grabbed mine at lunch. Thankfully the office is close to the EB in the Eaton Centre (Toronto, Canada).
All told it took 9 mins from getting in line to leaving the store, but just wait until the after-school crowd gets in on things...
French version of the game leaked after the game went gold. Many kiddies have been playing said version, sans English.
Awww, there is only one beer left and it's Barts.....
Well, good. Now after hearing for months and months about how good Halo 2 is we'll finally get to, you know, actually hear from people who've played it.
When all of these sources start giving it the highest or nearly highest scores possible, it does make you think that this is the real deal.
And yes, you clown who is about to hit reply and rant about marketing guys twisting arms of magazine editors who live from their adverts, that might be part of it but I doubt that could have infected all of the reviewers out there.
WOW! I am going to order through your link right now!!! I really want support you!!! I would have mod'd you up if I had mod points!
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"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008J
justinshoreco-20 That is bullshit, man.
KARMA TAG! You're it.
Gotta wait two more days over here in the UK. /grumbles
I called the 800 number for EB Games to check on my order.
"Thank you for calling EB Games. If you are calling about your Halo 2 order, all shipments are being made on time and tracking numbers are available on the web site. For any other assistance, please hold for the next available representative."
Bad thing though....my order page hasn't been updated. If it's not here tomorrow like it's supposed to be, I'm going to go after somebody. :-)
I don't understand how people can play the first game. FPS control without a keyboard and mouse is... difficult to say the least. And even with the PC version of Halo, it just seems like a watered down version of tribes to me. Hopefully Halo 2 is drastically improved (so I actually have something to do with my friends over at their house)
If they would have made this game it would have saved me a few bucks...
Three percent of my employer's staff (well, three out of about one hundred) took vacation today in order to play Halo 2 all night.
Now that's intense.
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Maybe I played this game on the wrong day but I just didn't get it. It looked good from the outset. It had elements that reminded me of games I love like Deus Ex and Half Life. But then I got into the "Halo" world and started to get chased by a bunch of Smurfs. All of the cute little animals making noises like squeaky toys. I felt bad shooting them actually.
Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my hard disk?
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Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas will be the biggest selling game in history (well, until the next GTA game). Halo 2 has no chance simple because there's at least five times as many PS2 owners out there as Xbox owners.
By the way, GTA:SA has 'broken box office records' in the UK - in it's opening weekend it sold 26million pounds worth of units - beating Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (the film) into second place.
In other news, hits to geek website http://slashdot.org is down 80% on the day...
Doh!
Huh, its $6.00 more there than at lik-sang, and its still sold-out.
What I want to know, from the hard-core xbox players who think the analog pads are ok, is, would you consider it cheating if people brought a Smart Joy + keyboard + mouse to a halo party? I definately would be tempted to do so if I owned it, since I think it would only be fair to play an FPS the way FPSs are meant to be played.
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At first I wondered why the troll-to-serious-comment ratio was so high on this article. Then I realized that anyone who actually cares about Halo 2 is playing their new game, not reading Slashdot. This story is like having an online discussion of Christianity at 9am on Easter Sunday.
Kudoz to the makers of the ILoveBees ARG (= Halo 2 grassroots marketing campaign).
They presented the story incredibly well (and managed to get F O U R times on slashdot)
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Most people don't feel bad until after they complete the thing. You've gotten the feeling of being screwed without even playing. Some might say you've already won the game.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
a lousy Halo 2 pin..
I showed up at 11:30am and there were 400-500 people at my EB.. nuts! I had a good time talking to the guys around me for the next 2 hours. M$ representatives were there handing out goodies for all us nerds. The biggest thing they gave out was giant Halo 2 boxes which looked like garbage being given away as gifts. After they had run out of those, they distributed a Halo 2 pin to all us unfortunates...
After trading gaming tags with other guys in line (read: all male crowd), I went home and fired it up. I was hoping my lik-sang adapter mouse/keyboard adapter would be in already but it will be a while until then..
My initial impressions after 2 hours: I like it so far BUT there is nothing really new in the single player game aside from the dual weapon thing. It feels like a bit of an add-on so far but that's not a bad thing because the first one was fun.
So enjoy it when you can folks...
How many of the people standing in line endless hours for this game voted last Tuesday?
--- Ban humanity.
BUT QUEUING UP AT MIDNIGHT FOR A GAME???
Sorry people, but that's just a little TOO creepy for me...
Sure, I may drift down to my local computer store at lunchtime within the first couple of weeks of Half-Life 2 coming out but there's no way I'm queueing in the rain at midnight like some corporate-controlled mindless robot.
It's JUST entertainment, it's JUST a game, please get a life and some perspective on reality - in other parts of the world, people queue for food & medical supplies to avoid dying. Queuing for a game, DVD, CD, concert ticket, etc. is just a little sick in comparison.
Gentoo Linux - another day, another USE flag.
Lets say everyone with an xbox picks one up. IT'll still sell less then GTA San andreas. why? because it's one of the few Xbox games worht getting, so theres a rush for it. But once it gets to a certain saturation, thats it. It's can't exceed the xbox install base for sales so it's can't exceed the total sales of GTA, btu ti could get to saturation of the market faster.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
This is Microsoft History 2004. Other consoles don't exist. This is the best-selling XBOX game in history, and therefore the best-selling console game in history.
If you say it enough times, it's true, right?
Don't think of it as a flame---it's more like an argument that does 3d6 fire damage
"I'm still playing Unreal Tournament (99)."
Same in my house. UT (classic) is the LAN FPS of choice to this day. It runs great on the older hardware, and the Bots are interesting as opposed to fodder. It's simply fun.
Not to say we don't want to try UT 2004 and others, but for general FPS play UT Classic is, well, classic. Maybe when Xboxen are dirt cheap on closeout in 2 years, pick up used Halo 2 copies, and we can network a few together with dedicated screens....
If you plan on having Halo 2 LAN parties [...] Halo 2 will support 16 linked Xbox video game systems!
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http://www.xbox.com/en-us/halo2/readinessguide.ht
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right?
-- the cake is a lie
Good, I was hoping I could speak out somewhere about this. HBO's forums were not accessible. I need to release my opinion on this, as not doing so would create some sort of cancerous growth within me. That and I just had my third double espresso...
I never pre-ordered Halo 2. I just think the idea of pre-ordering a game is ridiculous, as real shortages almost never appear. So I sat here counting down the time last night all the time while being accosted. "Oh, I bet you can't wait for the nerd convention!" "Hug the first guy dressed as Master Chief!" My local video game retailer (Rhymes with "GameStop") was opening at "12:01" to sell the game. Now, I'm sort of in the middle of nowhere, so I didn't expect a lot of crowds as there were other ritzier stores also selling the game probably with like chips and soda and balloons. But this store was about half a mile away so I could deal with not having the fanfare. At about 11:30 I decided I would swing by the parking lot to see if there was a line, and, if not, get some groceries from the supermarket.
Well, there's a line. There were about 100-150 people all single-file, wrapping around the corner of the shopping center. What surprised me is that they were almost all kids. I'm not saying "kids" like how old people say it (i.e. 'under 40'), I'm talking about 18 and under boys, many not accompanied by their parents but rather a hoodie and a pack of Camels trying to stay warm in the November cold. From talking with others in the line I find out most of the crowd got there by 8pm, with a few bringing chairs and camping out at 5:30pm earlier. They had been sitting there for six HOURS. Purely unnecessary, as you will soon find out.
At about 11:40 one of the frightened employees came out and told us to form two lines. One would go to the right and was reserved for "VIPs" -- that is, people who had pre-ordered and paid in full. Anyone that did not order or pay in full can form a new line to the left.
Well, the line on the left was me and about 4 other guys. By 11:45 I was leaning against the window of the store, about a yard away from the entrace. One of the VIPs who had been there since 5:30 as it turns out, was a Mom from Maryland (next state over, lots of people coming from Maryland) who was there with her children and apparently all her children's friends. She was talking about Halo 2 and Marathon and a bunch of games you don't hear outside of Penny Arcade's front page, in general. Then she handed out Mountain Dews. (Now, as "cool" as this "cool mom" is, I still don't understand why so many schoolkids were out here so late -- at best I can hope there was a strict 1/2am curfew for them. I really hope none of them got a "sick day" the next day).
At 12:02 or so, the doors opened, they let in about 20 VIPs who formed a line to the right of the store. The line on the left, my line, further split itself into two -- partial preorders and no preorders. I was now 2nd in line. Apprently, I wasn't the only one having no pre-orders because the credit card systems were incredibly slow. I can imagine there were thousands and thousands of requests suddenly coming in to the processing centers here in Delaware (Hello, MBNA/BankOne/Chase cardholders!). At 12:06, I had the "Limited Edition" version in hand ($5 for a neat-looking case and a DVD with filler isn't highway robbery). By 12:10 I was home. I dusted off my Xbox and played for the next three hours.
Like any true geek, the first thing I did was configure my player and options.
Disclaimers: Mild game-quality, non-plot spoilers ahead!
And here I ask the question, were Bungie's QA testers on Quaaludes??? For serious. I saw more build/clipping/texture errors in the first 10 minutes of Halo 2 than I ever saw building levels on UnrealEd. Models popping in and out of focus (What's this, the N64 version?). Brushes/BSP errors. Textures "flickering" to and from the background. Textures switching from "hi" to "medium" quality (mipmapping, I believ
Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.
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Why exactly does Microsoft deserve any congratulations, here? Virtually every single aspect of Halo's graphics, gameplay, and storyline were thought up in 1999 and 2000, by Bungie, while the XBox was still on the drawing board, before Microsoft had any part of it. It was going to be released on the Mac first, then on the PC. Bungie was probably THIS CLOSE to a beta, or at least an alpha, and Microsoft exploded the whole thing and wasted months and months re-writing the whole thing for the XBox.
Why look, Here's one of the original trailers, from 2000, 100% Microsoft-free. There's even a rocket warthog. Just ONE MONTH after that trailer was shown at E3, Microsoft bought the whole thing.
I really do think MS has done nothing but fuck up everything. Mod me down all you want, but I really think Microsoft realised the XBox was going to fail, utterly, without Halo. It's a great game, but Microsoft didn't friggin' make it. Let's congratulate them for making Virtual PC too. And Windows.
Take off every sig. For great justice.
By the way, the original original original trailer was shown in 1999 during Steve Jobs's keynote at Macworld. While it was being shown, that trailer was rendered, in real time, using OpenGL, on a Macintosh. It looks virtually identical to the gameplay of the 2001 XBox version. I'm still trying to find the original movie...
Take off every sig. For great justice.
Yeah, that greedy Bill Gates should get off his bum and form some kind of Foundation, or something. Sheesh!
Don't blame me, I voted for Durga.
Although I won't argue that the original HALO and HALO 2 are superb games, are they really as good as people say they are? I've always felt that HALO was so popular simply because there was little else to play on XBOX. If HALO had come out on Playstation 2, it probably would not have done nearly as well simply because there are so many other games for that system. People who only owned an XBOX didn't really have any other games in the same league to compare it to, and so it immediately became the product to judge all others by. The lack of titles, both qualitatively and quantitatively, on XBOX unquestionably spurred it's sales. But might it not also have affected the games perception as a whole? Don't get me wrong, I love these games, but in my mind they're not the phenomenom that the rest of the world says they are.
Dear diary: Today I stuffed some dolls full of dead rats I put in the blender.
$55 for a game is a bit much for anyone's budget it would seem to me. I still haven't played Halo 1 and am patiently waiting for one of the fanboys to sell me their's for $45 cheaper than what they paid for it. I'm sure I'll enjoy Halo today for $10 just as much as the folks who paid $50 did a year ago. Wait a few months and you can get great games for $10-15. You just can't be impatient and have to rush out and buy them.
Why must something be comprehendable to you to be enjoyable? Everyone has different interests. Some folks get an adrenaline rush from being first. Others like the exclusivity from being first. Who cares, folks are having fun. You sound like you are bitter that everyone else hasn't given up the consumerist lifestyle as you aspire to. Oh wait a minute, aren't you using a computer with an internet connection that if you cancelled you could use the money to feed several third worlders for years to come?
Mac OS X and Windows XP working side by side to fight back the night.
... for only a few minutes lastnight... Went by my local EB and it was nuts... then i saw that Toys R Us was open as well. They started selling them at 12:01, and by 12:03 I was out the door with Halo 2 in hand. It was a warm and fuzzy feeling.
... because the first Halo sucked sooo much ass on the console.
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Hopefully Half Life 2 will allow for the same sort of geek fun.
Before I am modded to the bowels of hell, I just want to say that, while many slashdotters' only expierience with FPS games has been with a keyboard and mouse, this doesn't mean that a dual joystick controller is nessessarily inferior.
The advantages of keyboard and mouse are as follows:
Can move mouse to shoot anywhere on the screen easily.
This is good, yes. But consider the disadvantages for a moment.
1) Out of mousemat error.
Sooner or later, your going run out of mousemat when your turning and will have to lift the mouse back onto the pad to continue. Meaning you'll simply stop turning while your doing this. On a DJC, you just tilt the right analouge stick right or left for continuous turning.
2) Out of fingers error.
With a keyboard and mouse, you aim with the mouse, meaning one hand, and all its fingers, can only access, 2-3 buttons.(Scrollwheels help with this a lot though) Usually these are shoot,change weapon and other. Meanwhile your other fingers, usually 2-3, are stuck on WASD for moving. If you want to crouch, reload, zoom, jump or perhaps change weapon reverse, you will need to do some keyboard gymnastics, look down, or (horror of horrors) stop moving to press other buttons. On a DJC, one thumb is used for movement, the other for aiming. Flipper pads mean four buttons are easily reachable by two more fingers, and the dpad and other buttons are acessable by a nimble other if required. Bottom line. You can keep moving while you perform on the fly weapon maitainance. DJC has a lot more buffer space for out of fingers errors.
3) Mouse Error, Error.
Most comupter mice are fairly cheap anyaway. Mice get junk in the wheels. Even optical mice glitch from time to time. Buttons sometimes get stuck, and of course hands may slip or be jostled from time to time. The average DJC is of a higher quaility than the average mouse and suffers far less from any of these problems.
4) Keyboard limitations
Open up a text editor. Press and hold E. Without letting go hold C. Now while holding, tap U. See the problem? Now try W,D and E. E will not register. Try WAQ. There are umpteen other combinations. Keyboards can't handle many multiple keydown combinations. DJC can.
OK, the disadvantage of DJCs will no doubt be blasted endlessly at me. Less precision, etc, etc.
But consider for a moment? Is a game filled with head shot hunting, rail driver packing, KBM gurus more or less fun than a game filled with DJC toting, ultra mobile, shotgun blasting, upclose and personal players?
And before you knock DJC, Try it out!! They're dirt cheap now, and are available anywhere. I know some will never budge from dogma, but if enough people follow me, then maybe I'll get more joypad support in Linux from now on.
May the Maths Be with you!
I've played hours of GTA, Half-life, Unreal, and pretty much any other big-time game out there. I use keyboard and mouse for some, but still prefer the Joystick. I find that Halo is by far the greatest game ever created. It is the only game that years later I haven't got sick of playing it at all. The co-op and the online play is the best part about it. I think what defines the best game is how much fun it is to play, but that could just be me.
And for all of you that think GTA is going sell more, thats because people thought PS2 was going to blow away xbox, and now they are stuck with a worse system, and no Halo.
The ending is so unsatisfying you'll be screaming for Halo 3 before your controller hits the floor.
The most blatant plug for a sequel I've ever seen.
I doubt too many here will catch the reference but the first thing that popped into my head when I saw "pfft" was: "The colony has been wiped out. Phhht! Just like that."
Phhht indeed! Gone are the hallowed Bungie days of lore which held an interesting and engaging storyline high on the list of gaming interests. I guess Bungie has truly abandoned their roots for multiplayer driven, rather than story driven, games.
Aleph One, you are my savior.
Don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed playing Halo and I'm sure the multiplayer is fantastic. It's just sad to see Halo storyline turn into Halo 2.
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Here's the correct and more permanent link.
(when they release a new comic tomorrow, this one will still refer to the correct one)
This is not my sig.
No jab against Super Mario Bros. (since that game was awesome), but I think's really easy to be all time best selling video game when the game was packaged with a large portion of Nintendo Systems. Same with Tetris and the Gameboy.
Of course, I owned both games, and Tetris is ultimately classic. I can still remember the sound of a goat having sex whenever you got a Tetris.
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If you want to take a peek at the game manual, check it out at Bungie's site here: http://bungie.net/images/games/halo2/support/halo2 manual_EN.pdf
If you just want to see what all the fuzz is about and beat the game, I would recommend you rent it first. Otherwise, go for it. I assume the price tag is similar in the UK (it's around $50 here) so you're not spending your kid's college money. Plus there's always XBConnect and Xlink which allow you to play online should you ever feel like it without having to pay for XBox Live.
An aimbot will make you a much better player than a mouse/keyboard ever will. Do you mind if I use one in our upcoming tournament?
And above all, nobody is allowed to have any fun. Rules first, fun second.
I disagree about the radar in Halo, maybe cause it's not actually radar. You would expect the cyborg's of halo to have excellent hearing, and that's what it is. I like the fact that if you're quiet and move carefully, your opponent's can't locate you. Conversly, if another player is right around the corner from you, and you're running and jumping around like a fool then they should definatly be able to hear where you are and blow you the hell up.
We hope your rules and wisdom choke you / Now we are one in everlasting peace
Its not an aimbot in that it does all the aiming for you, but it does help compensate for when you almost have and want to keep a target.