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Microsoft Says Firefox Not a Threat to IE

KillaKen187 writes "A CNET article claims that 'just days after the launch of open-source browser Firefox 1.0, Microsoft executives defended Internet Explorer, saying it is no less secure than any other browser and doesn't lack any important features.' It's also interesting to note that these statements made by Steve Vamos, Microsoft Australia's managing director, come with no knowledge of what Firefox has to offer as he admits not even installing or using Firefox."

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  1. The real reason it's not a threat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The next version of Windows will only allow Internet Explorer to access port 80 remotely... as a security measure.

    1. Re:The real reason it's not a threat by dbretton · · Score: 5, Funny


      Well, then, we need a simple solution.

      Firefox will, from this point forth, be renamed, "Internet".

    2. Re:The real reason it's not a threat by Zonnald · · Score: 2, Funny

      Shame on your IT department for not upgrading to XP service pack 2, then your coworker would not have got the popup.

    3. Re:The real reason it's not a threat by lpret · · Score: 5, Funny
      No no no, try this:

      The Internet: Extreme

      It worked for Intel...sorta...

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    4. Re:The real reason it's not a threat by fireman+sam · · Score: 4, Funny

      I jumped when Microsoft said jump and it was the best day of my life.

      They said jump to windows 95, I jumped to slackware 3.2. Mmmm fvwm

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    5. Re:The real reason it's not a threat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      somebody should make a virus that downloads FireFox, installs it on their computer, replaces IE and uses IE icons.

    6. Re:The real reason it's not a threat by th3d0ct0r · · Score: 1, Funny

      Thats the first thing i always do when freshly installing a windows system.... not that i want to...

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    7. Re:The real reason it's not a threat by Compholio · · Score: 5, Funny

      But... But... I just got used to Firefox! We've already seen two name changes, no more please - I beg you!

    8. Re:The real reason it's not a threat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      And for the people in the red states it will be "The Internets"

    9. Re:The real reason it's not a threat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      And those in the blue states will claim to have invented it.

    10. Re:The real reason it's not a threat by Darth+Coder · · Score: 5, Funny

      That is all well and good but there are something like 200 million Windows users out there who aren't bound by the dictates of an all-powerful system administrator.

      Well obviously they should be!

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    11. Re:The real reason it's not a threat by Groucho · · Score: 5, Funny

      And those in the blue states will claim to have invented it.

      They, uh, did.

    12. Re:The real reason it's not a threat by niteice · · Score: 5, Funny

      The Firefox link should read 'Porn' and the IE link should read 'Goatse'. For further effect (and to ward off users not knowing the horrors therein), set the IE home page to goat.cx.


      Problem solved. ;)

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    13. Re:The real reason it's not a threat by Trejkaz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why not cut straight to the chase: Internet XP

      If it worked for MS selling copies of the OS to a bunch of n00bs, why wouldn't it work for selling a browser to the same bunch of n00bs?

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    14. Re:The real reason it's not a threat by tacensi · · Score: 3, Funny

      I actually did this to my parent-in-laws machine.
      Because of the comment just above (not the parent, but the one shown in my thread view) I thought for a moment that you had set the goatse as ie's homepage at your parents in law computer... THAT would be funny!

    15. Re:The real reason it's not a threat by fbg111 · · Score: 4, Funny

      The best idea is to fool the users. Keep the E icon for Internet Explorer, but have it point to the Firefox executable. That's idiot-proofing.

      And if you really want to mess with your users, skin Firefox with an IE theme (once the Firefox 1.0 version theme is released).

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    16. Re:The real reason it's not a threat by DoraLives · · Score: 3, Funny
      Computers have similar tasks, which people don't care to learn because they won't die if they fuck up.

      Evil Vision

      Whatta ya sa we just run a special wire from the power supply to the user's chair. Have it get activated whenever the user fucks up. We could even rig it up with variable voltage/amperage depending upon the nature of the fuckup. That oughtta sort things out in a hurry, eh?

      /Evil Vision

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    17. Re:The real reason it's not a threat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      yet you spend your time posting on slashdot..?

    18. Re:The real reason it's not a threat by fatphil · · Score: 2, Funny

      TO keep the script simpler, it ran firefox no matter what you answered. "/Okay/ to FireFox" vs. "/No/, I'm not sure".

      FP.

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    19. Re:The real reason it's not a threat by General_Tso · · Score: 2, Funny

      Trust me, buddy. No one is a da Vinci here. I love it when someone takes an example of a genius in art or science (or both) and compares it to themselves.

  2. Great quote to take out of context by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are plenty of products out there with features we don't have. We have plenty of features that our customers don't use.

    Indeed they do!

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    1. Re:Great quote to take out of context by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
      > And tell me... where is this address where users let Microsoft know what features they really want?

      Can't speak for you or him, but I use www.mozilla.org...

    2. Re:Great quote to take out of context by Feztaa · · Score: 2, Funny

      I guess nobody's ever asked for a secure product. :-/

  3. Uh-huh. by GMFTatsujin · · Score: 5, Funny

    And when *I* dream, I have a pony.

    1. Re:Uh-huh. by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 4, Funny

      And when *I* dream, I have a pony.

      That poor, poor pony...

    2. Re:Uh-huh. by dgatwood · · Score: 2, Funny
      No, wait... this is Slashdot. My bad. You probably aren't the right gender to give birth to a pony, so my joke was probably totally misconstrued.... *sigh*.

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  4. Eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's also interesting to note that these statements made by Steve Vamos, Microsoft Australia's managing director, come with no knowledge of what Firefox has to offer as he admit not even installing or using Firefox.

    Did the former Iraqi Information Minister find a new job?

  5. Still using IE here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Still using IE... never had any problem with these so-called "threats" that are constantly and tiresomely reported ad naseum here on slashdot. Never had a problem, never had a security issue, never had a cra

    1. Re:Still using IE here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      At least IE was nice enough to click the "Submit" button for you before it crashed ;)

  6. Feed Mania by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Funny

    This guy is a treasure trove of wit, here's another good one I noticed after re-reading a second time:

    We take user feedback very seriously. If you have that feedback, then you should feed it back to us because we will feed it to the product team.

    It inspires a poem:

    Feed us the feedback double-quick!
    When we've digested the feed then lickey split
    Your browser we'll enance to make it more slick
    But keep you safe from all harm? Well that's quite a trick...
    Instead look at XAML - it makes buttons you click!

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  7. That's Not How it Works With Microsoft by Greyfox · · Score: 5, Funny
    First they downplay you, then they issue FUD about you, then then strongarm vendors who want to bundle your software, then they buy your company and incorporate your technology into their OS.

    If Ghandi had been going up against Microsoft, he'd be one of those happy friendly cartoon search agents now, like that puppy or that paperclip.

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  8. Who's side is he on? by StikyPad · · Score: 5, Funny

    Steve Vamos, Microsoft Australia's managing director, says "There are plenty of products out there with features we don't have. We have plenty of features that our customers don't use."

    Good job Steve, you just convinced me not to use MS products.

  9. Re:Preaching to the choir, but ... by Darth_Burrito · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sounds like someone's got a bad case of the NIH syndrome to me ...

    The Knights who say Nih demand a sacrifice!
    We want ...
    tabbed browsing
    ...
    and a shrubbery!!!

  10. "Firefox is NOT A THREAT TO IE..." by craenor · · Score: 2, Funny

    According to the new Microsoft PR spokesman, former Iraqi Defense Minister, Gen. Sultan Hashim Ahmad.

  11. FF has one VERY big advantage over IE by Fuzzums · · Score: 1, Funny

    FF is not made by M$

    :D

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  12. Re:First they ignore you... by M.C.+Hampster · · Score: 5, Funny

    First a famous quote is used, then it's overused, then you get modded up.

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  13. Spin at it's best! by beaststwo · · Score: 2, Funny

    This guy has a future in politics...

  14. Re:Lets face it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Indeed, there was a big article about it in the local newspaper in Minneapolis. No small deal.

  15. Re:Tabbed browsing not important by ForestGrump · · Score: 4, Funny

    when someone directs you to goat.cx, you need a really big back button. All that panic, you can't be expected to hit a small one right?

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  16. Re:Tabbed browsing not important by kaustik · · Score: 1, Funny

    Why did you care enough to reply to that person's comment? Don't like it? Don't respond. Why worry about what they do or do not think?

    Seriously, though, it is just conversation. Chill out.

  17. Fansite by loconet · · Score: 2, Funny

    Apparently this MS director has a fan club aquired thanks to his popularity from his previous job.

    See here

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  18. Re:I missed that one... by name773 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't think Microsoft should let this guy speak in the future wihtout some supervision, or at least an editor.
    and notepad doesn't count.

  19. ARTICLE speaks truth by JW+Troll · · Score: 2, Funny

    IE performs completely different functions from FireFox. FF doesn't deliver the adware features that users want, nor will it blindly open popups at random for any given site.
    Clearly these two programs are not even comparable. This article is saying nothing new.

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  20. Well, Microsoft has a lot of employees. . . by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 4, Funny
    And they had to go all the way to Australia to find one of them dumb enough to make an ignorant statement.

    MS tells lies like every other evil corporation/government? This is a sad truth, but a non-story.


    -FL

  21. Re:Firefox vs. IE, missing features... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    well... since you've somehow found all this info about IE, maybe you should take the time to do the same with Firefox?

    it's all configurable with plugins. many of the extra advanced features are hidden but tunable with the about: prefix or with plugins for options.

    but really, I dont care if you switch -- why do you think you need to tell us how uber cool you are?

    you're the 733t-est windows/IE user I've heard of!

  22. Re:One major weakness of Firefox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    file://home/user/picture.jpg Now transfer the money to my account in Genf.

  23. Well... by vdamiano · · Score: 2, Funny

    "...Steve Vamos, Microsoft Australia's managing director, come with no knowledge of what Firefox has to offer as he admits not even installing or using Firefox." You can always spot the "real" IT professional from light miles away. Lol

  24. Re:Stone hatchet by Finsterwald+P+Ogleth · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you give a caveman a chainsaw, you'll hear similar complaints...

    "Where's the wood handle?"
    "There's no leather thong to hold the rock in place"
    There's no ROCK!!"
    "Whats this handle with the string running through it?"
    "The flat thing sticking out is TOO uncomfortable...and I can't make a cut with the big yellow blocky thing at the end"
    "And these points on the thin handle...way too sharp and hard on my hands"

  25. Hmm..I see a name change for Firefox. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Interfox. Hmm..I like it. Kind of snazzy. /Mozilla, if you change the name again, I'm going to set fire to your building.

  26. From Word???? by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Funny
    Eventually, some users would go back and find ways to run IE (whether through MS Word or Start -> Run)


    You can laungh IE from Word??? God, no wonder it takes forever to launch the damned thing.

    Next they'll be putting flight sims into Excel or something. ;-)

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  27. check out Ben English's secret other job by guru512 · · Score: 2, Funny
  28. Baghdad Bill? by This+Is+Ridiculous · · Score: 2, Funny

    "They're not even [within] 100 miles [of Baghdad]. They are not in any place. They hold no place in Iraq. This is an illusion ... they are trying to sell to the others an illusion."

    "Yes, the American troops have advanced further. This will only make it easier for us to defeat them."

    "They are not in Baghdad. They are not in control of any airport. I tell you this. It is all a lie. They lie. It is a Hollywood movie. You do not believe them."

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  29. Re:Say what you may by Azghoul · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Firefox is now the most nicest browser out their."

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhh my eyes!!

    "most nicest"?? "their"?? The pain! Make it stop!