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Largest Digital Photograph in the World

thrill12 writes "Dutch research institute TNO has unveiled what it believes is the largest digital photograph in the world. The image contains 2.5 gigapixels or 7.5 gigabyte worth of data. It is composed of 600 single images shot by a computer-controlled pan-tilt unit in 7 second intervals. Afterwards, all photos where stiched together (compare: panorama tools) using the capacity of 5 high-end pc's in about 24 hours time."

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  1. Wheres the torrent? by keeleysam · · Score: 2

    I wanna DL this, and 7.5 GIGS is DEFINTELY gonna /. a server.

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  2. Groan by hey · · Score: 4, Funny

    So now I suppose this is a new silly field that people will compete in. Every 6 months we'll have to hear about the latest largest digital image in the world. Maybe slashdot should make an icon... or maybe would should just ignore it.

    1. Re:Groan by Lord_Slepnir · · Score: 4, Funny

      If we ignore it, it won't go away. If we all click on it and try to download it....well, after this guys server catches on fire, he won't be doing any more of this for a while.

  3. And as a followup: by Opalima · · Score: 5, Funny

    They proudly introduce The World's Biggest Printer (and toner catridge)

  4. sigh by another+misanthrope · · Score: 5, Funny

    all those pixels and not one nipple! What a waste...

    1. Re:sigh by p4ul13 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Such a large picture, there very well *could* be a boobie out there somewhere. DL the whole image and check every window before you complain!! =)

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    2. Re:sigh by kfg · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, they had originally gotten together intending to take the world's largest digital picture of a girl, but the plan fell through when it turned out that none of them knew one.

      KFG

    3. Re:sigh by phsdv · · Score: 2, Informative

      yeah right, you are clearly not Dutch. Otherwise you would have known that there are no woman living in Delft. Like 99% of all students are male (technical university), and thats probably the same for people working at TNO.

  5. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    How big would the thumbnail of this image be?

  6. Can we take it again? by YetAnotherName · · Score: 4, Funny

    I blinked! Aw, man.

  7. After this, I can see the future.... by AndyBassTbn · · Score: 2, Funny

    ....and it involves needing a lot more storage for pr0n.

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  8. Now we know by drachenfyre · · Score: 3, Funny

    About a week ago, an "Ask Slashdot" featured a question on high performance web serving. Now we know why.

  9. Mirror by RaymondInFinland · · Score: 3, Informative

    (not a very fast, but currently still working) mirror here: http://spider007.net/ext/tweakers.net/niews_35069. html

  10. Re:photo-op by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    You found Waldo?

  11. Disappointment. by slcdb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I guess this guy is going to be somewhat disappointed when he hears about this.

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  12. What a waste by PurdueGraphicsMan · · Score: 2, Interesting
    If I were going to invest the time and money into creating the world's largest photo, I believe I'd choose something a little more interesting than the boring skyline they chose. Why not do some planning and create a beautiful landscape photo or something that people would actually want to see.

    Eitherway, I can just see the MASSIVE, high resolution billboards now...

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  13. Legit? by Piranhaa · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't know if its just me, but (600 pics * 7 second intervals) = (4200 / 60) = 70 minutes. Wouldn't the sun have changed position or changed its intensity in that ammount of time? I know within an hour where I live, the sun will have gone between clouds, start going down -- changing the intensity of where it is shining. I remember another article posted like this a while back, but it all seems kind of iffy to me....

    1. Re:Legit? by PoopJuggler · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If it was sufficiently overcast for that hour, the light would be so diffuse that it probably wouldnt matter much. You could easily correct it in Photoshop if you did happen to get a couple frames with more/less light.

    2. Re:Legit? by Sandor+at+the+Zoo · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Wouldn't the sun have changed position or changed its intensity in that ammount of time?

      Yes. If you look carefully, you can find stitching seams, with clear lighting differences to either side.

      In the upper-right hand corner of the image, there are three beige buildings. Zoom way in to actually see them as buildings. :-) The one in the middle has a very clear seam near the left side of the building.

  14. Have these people nothing better to do? by Timesprout · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seriously what is the point in monster photograph that only a handful of people will ever see in its 7.5 GB fullness. This is nothing more than a crappy PR stunt and Slashot is rapidly turning into advertising central.

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  15. Nikon made a bigger print from a 3 Megapixel Cam by micksterama · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I saw a huge billboard in Times Square Nikon made from a 3 Megapixel Coolpix camera. It was a shot of a dinosaur on a set, for Universal's Jurassic Park DVD launch back in 2000. This thing was like 45 x 65. Sounds like this image is much higher resolution, but if you're going to print it, you wouldn't see much of a difference at equal distances... Seems like a waste of a lot of pixel power just to make a point...

  16. In case of slashdotting by the+quick+brown+fox · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'll save you guys the suspense: It's a closeup of Tara Reid's boob.

  17. My house by McWilde · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I got there before the slashdotting. I can almost see my house in the picture. I live about 12 km away from where the picture was taken from (by bike, so probably about 10 km as the photon flies). Actually my house is tucked away behind some taller building, but you can easily count the windows on the new Ministry of Education that is just a bit farther down the road.

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  18. Bah... by flimflam · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm much more impressed by this.

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    1. Re:Bah... by phsdv · · Score: 2, Informative
      No film scanner used here. This photo was taken with a Digital camera, the Nikon D1.

      And scanning grain is already possible. The newest 4000DPI scanners very often have a grain reduction function...

  19. For all non-photo geeks out there by xThinkx · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'd like to take this time to point out the lunacy of the 'megapixel' ratings for cameras

    A number determined from the multiplication of length and width in pixels of an image has about as much to do with the quality of a picture as the size of your passenger cabin has to do with the speed of your car. Yes, you can print larger pictures without seeing pixels if you have a higher megapixel count, but chances are it's not the resolution of your photos that you'll notice.

    A major factor in the quality of any image is the quality of the optics used to take it. That means the lens, the glass used to focus and point the image onto the sensor. Quality glass, such as low dispersion glass (I'm preferential to Canon's "L" glass) will create images with sharp edges, crisp focus, and good bokeh. Use cheap glass and you'll get the opposite. Effects like soft focus, purple halos, light leaking, and distortion will all still be present if you use poor optics, no matter what the MP rating. I wonder how many people have upgraded from a 3 mp to a 4, 6, or 8 mp camera and still found lackluster results.

    My point, a camera has many more features that determine quality than just the megapixel rating, when you choose one, consider these as well and you'll be happier. And here's a plug, dpreview.com does some awesome camera reviews (I'm in no way affiliated with them).

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    1. Re:For all non-photo geeks out there by Twanfox · · Score: 2, Informative

      It isn't lunacy.

      With optical cameras, the resolution and clarity of the image is more influenced by the optics (lens, etc) than the film, because the film is capable of storing an obscene resolution. A cheap little disposable camera is capable of having that same picture printed at 3"x4" or 8"x10", and the only thing that influences it is the optics that were used as to how clear that image is.

      For digital cameras, the optics are not nearly as critical in defining the quality of image as the CCD is (photoreceptors). If the best you can do is 2.0 megapixels for top image size of the camera, the best you'll be able to print out with clarity is probably like 3"x4". However, if you take a camera capable of doing 5.2 megapixels, you can turn right around and print out that image at 8"x10" without loss in quality.

      While optics do play a role in how clear the image is, if the photoreceptors are incapable of recording the resolution you're seeking for high quality, optics cease being the defining characteristic.

    2. Re:For all non-photo geeks out there by WNight · · Score: 2, Informative

      They do this. Go to www.dpreview.com and read a review. They take pictures of test charts and show you pictures of how the camera handles very fine lines getting smaller and smaller. This is where you get color fringing, moire, bluriness, and artifacts as the camera tries to get some data out of the mess.

  20. If I want to see Delft... by mrjb · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...I'll look out of the window. Sure takes less time than downloading the image!

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  21. First stitching, then tiling by wwwillem · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In a way, this is funny. The best way to handle huge images is by tiling them. I like to play around with maps and satellite images (see here with and without grid) and have learned the lesson that to put that type of large images on a web server, you better cut it into tiles.

    Flash based zoom/pan/tilt viewers do the same thing. A bit more advanced, but you download only the part that is currently in view. Even when you open a PDF in your browser, just the page in view is downloaded. And think about those huge video walls.

    So, the funny part is now that you take many, many pictures, then use a lot of processing to stitch the results together, and then cut it into tiles again to display the resulting image. Wouldn't it make more sense to put some more effort in that robotic camera control device and make that so accurate that it can take the pictures, still touching, but with zero overlap? That would be cool!! I suspect that making the high precision optics for such a camera would be really, really expensive. Which is probably why TNO did it the way they did.

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  22. Re:file size limitation?!? by farnz · · Score: 2, Informative
    You just totally missed the boat. FAT32 has a filesize limitation of 2GB, NTFS doesn't. Older Linux kernels limit you to 2GB/file, newer ones don't.

    On NTFS, ReiserFS and Ext3 (Windows 2k, and Linux 2.6), I've been able to store complete DVD-9 images (8GB or so).

  23. Hrm by Auckerman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This really is stretching the definition of a photograph. It would be trivial (in the sense the process is already know) to top this by using a camcorder(s) to capture the data, moving the images to 3-d space then projecting the image to 2-D. It would take a bit of CPU time, but it would be just as much of a photo as this is.

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  24. Um, no. by mapmaker · · Score: 4, Informative
    It would appear these people have never heard of aerial photography. Here at my job (local DC government) we work with a digital aerial orthophotograph of Washington DC that is over 20 gigapixels in size.

    It's true that the file size of our imagery is smaller than theirs, as we use Mr. Sid format for better compression, but our pixel count leaves them in the dust.

    I don't believe this image is in any way extraordinary or special - pretty much every local government across the country maintains digital imagery of their jurisdiction that is comparible in resolution.

    1. Re:Um, no. by mapmaker · · Score: 2, Informative
      Yes, aerial orthophotography is pretty much always taken with digital cameras nowadays. It's a 100% digital process.

      But now that I've RTFA, I see that they are claiming to have the largest digital panoramic photo in the world. The poster overstated their claim.

      Adding that qualifier in makes their claim more plausible, but also less noteworthy.

  25. Re:file size limitation?!? by MyHair · · Score: 2, Informative

    Unless I just totally missed the boat, Windows and Linux have a file size limitation of around 2 gigabytes.

    Wha?

    You missed the boat. Various FAT filesystems may be limited to 2GB, but Linux and modern Windows have no such built in limits. Check on the individual filesystems. I know NTFS can go over 4GB; I think it's capable up to a few TB. ext2 may have some lesser limits but is well over 4GB. XFS, JFS and ReiserFS are worth a look.

  26. New Title: by SnapShot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let's rewrite that intro shall we?

    Most Boring Picture Ever Taken

    Dutch research institute TNO has unveiled what it believes is the most boring picture ever taken. The image contains 2.5 gigapixels or 7.5 gigabyte worth of pictures of the roof of some office park. It is composed of 600 single images shot by a computer-controlled pan-tilt unit that was incapable of actually viewing anything of any interest to anyone. Afterwards, all photos where stiched together using the capacity of 5 high-end pc's in about 24 hours time. Three graduate students died of boredom; services will be held somewhere exciting, like a morgue. Never have so many, downloaded so much, for so little...

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  27. Re:file size limitation?!? by mapmaker · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's not a file size limitation that's causing the choke, it's the memory size limitation. 32-bit OSes can only handle 4 GB of RAM, so when you try to open an image that approaches that limit - blammo.

  28. 11.3 Gpixel in my research lab by VDM · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I know it's risky (risk of slashdotting, of course...), however among the things I do for research there are also the so-called "digital slides", which are digital copies of pathology glass slides. We acquire them with a motorised microscope, at 40x magnification, which means about 0.3 micron/pixel. The maximum area acquired was about 21x45 mm, for a total of 28340 images, each one is 699x572 pixel (analog camera). This corresponds to about 11.3 Gpixels. Usually we remain well under this value, but anyway around 1-2 Gpixel on average.
    Please be very kind with our test server: http://www.telemed.uniud.it/eslides/.
    (anyway, I never thought this kind of things could become a news item).

  29. Re:file size limitation?!? by isecore · · Score: 2, Insightful
    On Linux, ext2 has a 2 gig size limit, but ext3 and other modern filesystems don't have such a limit. I'm also fairly sure that Windows XP has no such limit on NTFS.


    Funny, I managed to store a 5 gig file on my old EXT2-based server just the other day. Really weird thing is I managed to retrieve it just fine as well! *gasp*

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  30. Was I the only one? by IdJit · · Score: 2, Funny

    Okay, is it just me or was anyone else totally expecting to see a 2.5 gigapixel image of goat.se?

    Just when I though /. was becoming predictable they go and pull a fast one...

  31. not impressed. by sxtxixtxcxh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    i made the largest baby photo using 2500 digital photos each one at least 4.0megapixels in size and some as large as 6 megapixels.

    exposure started june 2002 and ended early november 2003.

    i used MacOSaiX to put it together on a two year old powerbook, and it took about 12 hours.

    it's not seemless, but the mosaic effect is cool.

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    1. Re:not impressed. by Speare · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Pardon me for bursting your bubble, but...

      If you can point a piece of software you downloaded or bought at a directory full of snapshots, and get a mosaic of another snapshot, how is that particularly interesting? You don't even say what the actual image resolution is in your final, and your image has duplicates because your library wasn't big enough.

      Max Lyons created new tools to develop image files that large. He selected a subject which benefitted from his technique. He hand-shot the images with the final project in mind. He found a printer who would show his print at a large scale, not just a 20"x30" you can upload to ezprints.com.

      The Gigapixl film folks are using a camera to its fullest potential, carefully choosing subjects which, again, benefit from the capability.

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  32. Re:The Big Picture by kfg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, if the Pythagorians are right I'm looking out my window at the largest digital picture in the universe right now. I laugh at your 10 gigs as I contemplate an image that requires all of the fundamental particles to store, and that's before we even get into the issues of storage media geometry.

    Scrolling seems to be a bit of an issue though.

    KFG

  33. BFD by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is the "so what" factor lost on anybody? If I stand in one spot and move slightly, snapping a shot each time I twitch, I bet I can photoshop it all together an top this. But really, who cares? It's NOT one picture taken with some fabulous technology; it's just a some art piece.

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  34. Canon-L fanboys who know nothing of optics by SuperBanana · · Score: 3, Informative
    Quality glass, such as low dispersion glass (I'm preferential to Canon's "L" glass) will create images with sharp edges, crisp focus, and good bokeh. Use cheap glass and you'll get the opposite.

    Bokeh comes from the number of aperture leaves and their shape(there are some non-straight-edged aperture leaves). It has -absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the glass-.

    Furthermore, Canon's $60 50mm/1.8 is plasticky, cheap, blah blah- but it's just as sharp as the faster, metal (heavier) L-series lens, and it doesn't suffer from the mild barrel distortion the L-series lens does. It has fewer aperture blades, so bokeh is not as great- which is pretty much the only reason pros buy the L version. Consumers buy it because they want a red ring around their lens and they don't want to be caught dead with a plastic lens.

    You can stare at lens charts until the cows come home and argue about image quality. The L-lenses are slightly better in most image quality categories since they do generally use the very best of Canon's technology, but their chief advantage is that they are built with stronger but heavier materials, aimed at professional users who don't mind that the body is thick metal. Phil Greenspun claims he's dropped his 70-210/2.8 IS on the floor and it worked fine. I'm not about to try with mine, but I can tell you that the thing is built like a goddamn tank, and designed to be modular for easy servicing. Even the tripod mount screw is replaceable...

  35. Re:file size limitation?!? by qodfathr · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, it's a limitation of the image program the person is using. Win2K and it's offspring (XP) can make use of lots of address space (read: >4GB). But, it's neither easy nor automatic. The OS will 'automatically' let each process have up to 4GB of address space (well, 2GB by default and 3GB with the right switches so the OS can have the other 1GB for its uses) (and you cannot allocate one contiguous 3GB block due to some, um, old issues), but using AWE (Address Windowing Extensions), you can basically augment your program with a paging mechanism which will give you 64-bit addressing. (But you need to page in and out of thar 64-bit space into your process' 32-bit space.) Oh, and if you want to access more RAM than 4GB from a single process, you'd need to use PAE (if your system supports it).

    Read Raymond Chen's August 2004 blog entries (http://weblogs.asp.net/oldnewthing/archive/2004/0 8.aspx) if you really care about any of this.

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  36. How about the inverse? by fwitness · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've been looking for some kind of OSS that let's me take a picture and print it on multiple pieces of paper. Many digital cameras can take absolutely huge pictures these days, and I'd like to be able to make my own panorama style prints. I've been looking for months for such an animal but no luck.

    Anyone here have suggestions?

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    1. Re:How about the inverse? by madstork2000 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I was going to mod some comments, but thought I would help you out instead. KDE built in printing dialog has this functionality.

      If you are printing from a non-KDE app, specify "kprinter" as the print command. The Print dialog comes up and choose "Properties" (The should be a button next to the printer select drop down.

      Anyway, among the tabs (probably hidden from view) is a "POSTER" tab. This will allow you to pront anything supersized.

      I have not used this too much myself so I cannot speak as to quality, but I know the function is there if I need it. I'm sure you can find much better info on the net than I can provide....

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  37. Mine's bigger by MrBlic · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here's a link to a montage of a Dolphin Brain that was assembled with a 10x objective on a microscope.

    Dolphin Brain on Neuroinformatica.com

    Once you get to the page, zoom in about ten times using the + magnifying glass icon.

    The file is 135,000 pixels wide by 200,000 pixels high which would take 77.25 Gigabytes to store uncompressed. The compressed size on the server is 3.912 Gigabytes.

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