ADOBE SAID THEY SIGNED THE NDA-THOMAS KNOLL SAID IT HIMSELF!
Thomas Knoll - 9:20am Apr 18, 05 PST (#35 of 147)
Adobe has ready signed Nikon's NDA agreement. However, that agreement is only for access to Nikon's binary only SDK, which not useable for Camera Raw since it does not have the required features to support the full Camera Raw interface.
From Photoshopnews.com
This will cause a bunch of phone calls to AOL's pathetic customer service.
Hopefully they will be reading what is being written by their users and by mail receipients and will fix their horrific spam filtering.
AOL has been using a sledgehammer to tap in a penny-nail as their approach to spam.
They have reaped what they have sown...
I tried to send a link the other day for an innocuous fun holiday site to my in-laws and AOL blocked it.
For 2 weeks I couldn't send my brother e-mail at AOL because they were blacklisting my domain even though it was due to an incorrect IP address in THEIR system.
Finally today I got a call from a business associate telling me her e-mail couldn't get through to my work account (different mail account than above) because SpamCop had sent back a message stating it was blacklisted.
After some research on the IP address and some snooping, sure enough, I confirmed it was Blacklisted.
I had my admin open the filter for that particular IP address but I doubt we'll be seeing much AOL e-mail on either server for a while...
KARMA'S A BITCH-EH AOL??????
1. Learn to spell
2. Nikon seems to offer JPG and TIF as options
3. DMCA? Adobe said Nikon might sue. Nikon didn't say Nikon might sue. Sounds like a bunch of FUD being spread by Adobe.
DNG? Open? Why does a Tradmark apprear next to the DNG? Adobe owns the trademark and by extension the file format.
I've read the DNG spec and it misses a lot of things.
Besides, Adobe is driving DNG, not the IEEE or the ISO. If this is an open format, give it to a standards body. The DNG is ultimately Adobe's property at the moment.
Nikon is saying the NEF file is proprietary. It existed 4 years before Adobe even started RAW processing.
They offer you TIFF & JPG-both easily readable. The NEF is their format and from my understanding actually does contain proprietary code-which is executable through the SDK and other methods.
Nikon NEVER threatened anyone with a lawsuit or DMCA-that's a bunch of FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) posted by Thomas Knoll of Adobe.
On Engadget Nikon said they are not allowed, due to the confidentiality part of the SDK, to disclose who uses the SDK or has signed it.
Yet-I've read twice where Adobe says they signed the SDK and have it as have I read that Bibble also did the same. Both seem to have reversed engineered the Raw NEF file-and even Adobe said they will support the D2X in ACR 3.1.
I don't see Nikon suing Adobe or Bibble-yet they seem to have broken the SDK confidentiality.
This is becoming a non-issue. This sounds like a lot of petty crap from Adobe trying to pressure their supposed open standard, DNG.
I find it ironic that DNG is supposed to be this open format yet Adobe is the only one working on the specification and they have a TRADEMARK on DNG!!! Talk about Hypocrisy!!
From what I have read, Adobe is making the DMCA allegations, Nikon has never said one word about this. Sounds like the spreading of FUD-Fear, Uncertainty & Doubt.
There is nothing stopping Adobe from working with the files but Adobe. Bibble works with it. And the WB info is still available.
The SDK is free so I don't know what Adobe is going on about.
If you read the article carefully, Nikon didn't say a single word about this issue. Thomas Knoll of Adobe and Jeff Schewe, a paid Adobe Endorser and Canon! user, are on the attack.
Adobe, via Thomas Knoll, is saying he fears that DRMA might be applied if Adobe reverse engineers the Nikon raw file. Meanwhile Adobe was the company that in 2001 sued and had a student arrested after their Ebook was hacked by him and their encryption broken-talk about hypocrisy!
Interestingly, NO ONE has noticed that in order to get D2X support you have to either buy or upgrade to Adobe Photoshop CS2-a $630 or $150 proposition. The Nikon software is $99.
Adobe has reversed engineered Nikon files in the past. They don't use Nikon's SDK (available here at no charge: ) and have not used it in the past. Nikon has not sued them before-why would they even think of suing them now?
If you ask me, Adobe is trying to deflect attention away from their costly Photoshop!
I'd rather use the software designed for the file-in this case Nikon Capture....
They'll give their ID's to the geeks who will not only be responsible for their ID tags, but also for doing and submitting their homework.
I see a future of illiterate bullies beating up the school brains...
LET THE PUMMELING BEGIN!!!
Oh I absolutely agree with the zooming in function. I think that you will start to see serious efforts by cartographers and the military to creat precision images like this.
And to your quote at the end of your post you can add,
And Friday is the last day of the week, so TGIF!
I worked at VTL (Vacuum Tube Logic) http://www.vtl.com/ and Manley Labs http://www.manleylabs.com/ in the early 90's. They developed the KT-90 which was a then, Yugoslavian-built improvement on the classic KT-88 and GE 6550 power amp tubes. I still have them in today and they sound sweet.
Unfortuntately China, Russia and I think the Czech Republic are about all that are left making tubes. It's a shame because they sound superior to everything else out there.
P.S. Check out some of the interviews with Tube Queen EveAnna Manley.
I saw a huge billboard in Times Square Nikon made from a 3 Megapixel Coolpix camera. It was a shot of a dinosaur on a set, for Universal's Jurassic Park DVD launch back in 2000. This thing was like 45 x 65.
Sounds like this image is much higher resolution, but if you're going to print it, you wouldn't see much of a difference at equal distances...
Seems like a waste of a lot of pixel power just to make a point...
For audio that is...
I still listen to superior vinyl records on a VTL all tube system. I hate digital but I love the iPod. At least an iPod played through tubes sounds better than through solid-state...
TiVo will survive like Apple still survives
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They have a loyal following of users. TiVo will be smart enough to keep on reinventing themselves.
It's a heck of lot easier to set up a TiVo than a Windows Media Center.
With TiVo you can get someone on the line for Tech Support pretty quickly and toll-free.
For Microsoft...don't even get me started...
TiVo won't suffer from the need for constant security patches. Imagine how much hacking will go on with WIndows Media Centers vs. a TiVo?
I picked this up on a visit to a Nikon factory in Japan where they make the Step & Repeat machines that make the chips and fabs as well as the precision testing equipment.
To give you an idea of the optical precision required by the Step & Repeat machines that make the Fabs and chips consider this...
The accuracy is equivalent to cutting all but 1 blade of grass on an entire football field to the exact same length...
Prett amazing stuff.
My wife and I applied for a Home Depot Expo credit card before we begin redoing our kitchen. We listed both of our incomes since together they were pretty high and because my credit is much better than that of my wife, we hoped to up her score (long story short, her credit is much better now but I digress...)
Well I get a letter stating that I am approved and she can be a cardholder but they cannot issue a joint account.
I call Expo's credit services to inquire why I can't have a joint account-was it my wife's credit? Was it something else...
The minimum waged person answering the phone says to me: "It's because of the PATRIOT ACT." I stopped for a second, paused in disbelief, and said: "The PATRIOT ACT?" She responded: "Yes, the PATRIOT ACT."
Okay so now I am angry and wondering if I am suddenly considered a terrorist threat (which after that Franks and Beans dinner last night may actually be....)
I ask to speak to a supervisor...
Supervisor gets on the phone, very nicely, explains that due to the increased paperwork and documentation required by the PATRIOT ACT, Home Depot and Home Depot Expo no longer give out joint accounts, only a second card for applicants spouses...
I ask incredulously, "The PATRIOT ACT?" She says "Yes." Because of potential money-laundering issues, banks and other financial institutions have to keep track of every social security number and new account...
Now I can understand that you can get fertilizer and diesel fuel at a Home Depot or at least the fertilizer, and borrow one of their cute little trucklets, but give me a break.
If we had a joint account we'd have almost double our credit line. Now it pays for my wife to open a separate account...
The worst part, Home Depot still hasn't changed their credit application and nowhere in the disclosures does it mention the lack of availability of joint accounts...
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ADOBE SAID THEY SIGNED THE NDA-THOMAS KNOLL SAID IT HIMSELF! Thomas Knoll - 9:20am Apr 18, 05 PST (#35 of 147) Adobe has ready signed Nikon's NDA agreement. However, that agreement is only for access to Nikon's binary only SDK, which not useable for Camera Raw since it does not have the required features to support the full Camera Raw interface. From Photoshopnews.com
This will cause a bunch of phone calls to AOL's pathetic customer service. Hopefully they will be reading what is being written by their users and by mail receipients and will fix their horrific spam filtering. AOL has been using a sledgehammer to tap in a penny-nail as their approach to spam. They have reaped what they have sown...
I tried to send a link the other day for an innocuous fun holiday site to my in-laws and AOL blocked it. For 2 weeks I couldn't send my brother e-mail at AOL because they were blacklisting my domain even though it was due to an incorrect IP address in THEIR system. Finally today I got a call from a business associate telling me her e-mail couldn't get through to my work account (different mail account than above) because SpamCop had sent back a message stating it was blacklisted. After some research on the IP address and some snooping, sure enough, I confirmed it was Blacklisted. I had my admin open the filter for that particular IP address but I doubt we'll be seeing much AOL e-mail on either server for a while... KARMA'S A BITCH-EH AOL??????
1. Learn to spell 2. Nikon seems to offer JPG and TIF as options 3. DMCA? Adobe said Nikon might sue. Nikon didn't say Nikon might sue. Sounds like a bunch of FUD being spread by Adobe.
DNG? Open? Why does a Tradmark apprear next to the DNG? Adobe owns the trademark and by extension the file format. I've read the DNG spec and it misses a lot of things. Besides, Adobe is driving DNG, not the IEEE or the ISO. If this is an open format, give it to a standards body. The DNG is ultimately Adobe's property at the moment.
Nikon is saying the NEF file is proprietary. It existed 4 years before Adobe even started RAW processing. They offer you TIFF & JPG-both easily readable. The NEF is their format and from my understanding actually does contain proprietary code-which is executable through the SDK and other methods. Nikon NEVER threatened anyone with a lawsuit or DMCA-that's a bunch of FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) posted by Thomas Knoll of Adobe. On Engadget Nikon said they are not allowed, due to the confidentiality part of the SDK, to disclose who uses the SDK or has signed it. Yet-I've read twice where Adobe says they signed the SDK and have it as have I read that Bibble also did the same. Both seem to have reversed engineered the Raw NEF file-and even Adobe said they will support the D2X in ACR 3.1. I don't see Nikon suing Adobe or Bibble-yet they seem to have broken the SDK confidentiality. This is becoming a non-issue. This sounds like a lot of petty crap from Adobe trying to pressure their supposed open standard, DNG. I find it ironic that DNG is supposed to be this open format yet Adobe is the only one working on the specification and they have a TRADEMARK on DNG!!! Talk about Hypocrisy!!
From what I have read, Adobe is making the DMCA allegations, Nikon has never said one word about this. Sounds like the spreading of FUD-Fear, Uncertainty & Doubt.
There is nothing stopping Adobe from working with the files but Adobe. Bibble works with it. And the WB info is still available. The SDK is free so I don't know what Adobe is going on about.
http://support.nikontech.com/cgi-bin/nikonusa.cfg/ php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=376
Ack! I meant DMCA (Digital Millenium Copyright Act) not DRMA (Digital Rights Management Act?) Doh!
If you read the article carefully, Nikon didn't say a single word about this issue. Thomas Knoll of Adobe and Jeff Schewe, a paid Adobe Endorser and Canon! user, are on the attack.
Adobe, via Thomas Knoll, is saying he fears that DRMA might be applied if Adobe reverse engineers the Nikon raw file. Meanwhile Adobe was the company that in 2001 sued and had a student arrested after their Ebook was hacked by him and their encryption broken-talk about hypocrisy!
Interestingly, NO ONE has noticed that in order to get D2X support you have to either buy or upgrade to Adobe Photoshop CS2-a $630 or $150 proposition. The Nikon software is $99.
Adobe has reversed engineered Nikon files in the past. They don't use Nikon's SDK (available here at no charge: ) and have not used it in the past. Nikon has not sued them before-why would they even think of suing them now?
If you ask me, Adobe is trying to deflect attention away from their costly Photoshop!
I'd rather use the software designed for the file-in this case Nikon Capture....
Will be the new school song!
They'll give their ID's to the geeks who will not only be responsible for their ID tags, but also for doing and submitting their homework. I see a future of illiterate bullies beating up the school brains... LET THE PUMMELING BEGIN!!!
Oh I absolutely agree with the zooming in function. I think that you will start to see serious efforts by cartographers and the military to creat precision images like this. And to your quote at the end of your post you can add, And Friday is the last day of the week, so TGIF!
They did-but they didn't have to fill out reports for the government like they do now after the PATRIOT ACT.
I worked at VTL (Vacuum Tube Logic) http://www.vtl.com/ and Manley Labs http://www.manleylabs.com/ in the early 90's. They developed the KT-90 which was a then, Yugoslavian-built improvement on the classic KT-88 and GE 6550 power amp tubes. I still have them in today and they sound sweet. Unfortuntately China, Russia and I think the Czech Republic are about all that are left making tubes. It's a shame because they sound superior to everything else out there. P.S. Check out some of the interviews with Tube Queen EveAnna Manley.
That was 45 feet by 65 feet (sorry left that out!)
I saw a huge billboard in Times Square Nikon made from a 3 Megapixel Coolpix camera. It was a shot of a dinosaur on a set, for Universal's Jurassic Park DVD launch back in 2000. This thing was like 45 x 65. Sounds like this image is much higher resolution, but if you're going to print it, you wouldn't see much of a difference at equal distances... Seems like a waste of a lot of pixel power just to make a point...
For audio that is... I still listen to superior vinyl records on a VTL all tube system. I hate digital but I love the iPod. At least an iPod played through tubes sounds better than through solid-state...
They have a loyal following of users. TiVo will be smart enough to keep on reinventing themselves. It's a heck of lot easier to set up a TiVo than a Windows Media Center. With TiVo you can get someone on the line for Tech Support pretty quickly and toll-free. For Microsoft...don't even get me started... TiVo won't suffer from the need for constant security patches. Imagine how much hacking will go on with WIndows Media Centers vs. a TiVo?
I picked this up on a visit to a Nikon factory in Japan where they make the Step & Repeat machines that make the chips and fabs as well as the precision testing equipment. To give you an idea of the optical precision required by the Step & Repeat machines that make the Fabs and chips consider this... The accuracy is equivalent to cutting all but 1 blade of grass on an entire football field to the exact same length... Prett amazing stuff.
I mean if you're going to waste money, why not do it really big!
For Photoshop...being that Photoshop is the cash cow at Adobe, why would they look at Linux? To push up their sales at the low end...
I think whoever applies for this job will have a short career at Adobe when they decide to pull the plug on the position...
My wife and I applied for a Home Depot Expo credit card before we begin redoing our kitchen. We listed both of our incomes since together they were pretty high and because my credit is much better than that of my wife, we hoped to up her score (long story short, her credit is much better now but I digress...) Well I get a letter stating that I am approved and she can be a cardholder but they cannot issue a joint account. I call Expo's credit services to inquire why I can't have a joint account-was it my wife's credit? Was it something else... The minimum waged person answering the phone says to me: "It's because of the PATRIOT ACT." I stopped for a second, paused in disbelief, and said: "The PATRIOT ACT?" She responded: "Yes, the PATRIOT ACT." Okay so now I am angry and wondering if I am suddenly considered a terrorist threat (which after that Franks and Beans dinner last night may actually be....) I ask to speak to a supervisor... Supervisor gets on the phone, very nicely, explains that due to the increased paperwork and documentation required by the PATRIOT ACT, Home Depot and Home Depot Expo no longer give out joint accounts, only a second card for applicants spouses... I ask incredulously, "The PATRIOT ACT?" She says "Yes." Because of potential money-laundering issues, banks and other financial institutions have to keep track of every social security number and new account... Now I can understand that you can get fertilizer and diesel fuel at a Home Depot or at least the fertilizer, and borrow one of their cute little trucklets, but give me a break. If we had a joint account we'd have almost double our credit line. Now it pays for my wife to open a separate account... The worst part, Home Depot still hasn't changed their credit application and nowhere in the disclosures does it mention the lack of availability of joint accounts...