Posted by
michael
on from the take-a-deep-breath dept.
geek42 writes "Looks like Russia has picked up where the U.S. failed: they've ratified Kyoto, and now it's going to be law (on Feb 16). The BBC has coverage. 'Industrialised countries will have until 2012 to cut their collective emissions of six key greenhouse gases to 5.2% below the 1990 level.'"
Based on UN response to immediate crises around the world (Sudan Rwanda Iraq) I sispect consequences will be studies into why the offender was not able to comply, how it might make him feel, how other nations feel about it, maybe a letter of reprimand and a 10 year extension. The UN is very sensitive when it comes to "the peoples". So why didn't the US sign? If you're not gonna trip, why fake taking the acid?
Then in light of that statement, I propose you and your family be the first to lose their jobs.
What? Don't like that idea?
Re:Treaty Doesn't Even do what It Claims to do
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dknight
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Since when are americans Christian?
I'm pretty sure I'm an american, AND not a christian. Amazing, I know. Sorry to go off topic like that, but we arent ALL bible-thumbers.
On Topic, however. Do we, as americans, have a right to pollute just as much as we want? Well, as far as I can tell, yes we do. If we want to pollute til we all day, it's our right to do so. Now, you might feel that it's NOT our right, because in doing so, we might take the rest of you with us. That is a valid concern. However, most of us over here just dont care about the rest of you. We tend to have a very strong attitude of "nobody else matters". It may not be right, but its the way it is (not everyone here is that way, but I'd safely say the majority - including myself).
Besides the point that the UN has no way of enforcing something like this, please note that it's in the US consitution that:
a) The US has given itself the right to enforce any of its law anywhere in the world.
b) No foreign laws will be enforceable in the US.
Kyoto is just whishful thinking.
To all americans...
by
JustNiz
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To all you brainwashed americans who won't face the facts and take responsibilty for your own behaviour with the lame excuse that actually doing anything about reducing pollution is just too expensive or will cost a few american jobs...
How much money and jobs do you think a new ice age might cost? What sort of dent to your family budget and quality of life might total ecological shutdown cause?
All they have to do is to pass a resolution and we will go and kill them all when they don't obey those resolutions. What's the big deal?
-- evil is as evil does
Re:Consequences?
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Anonymous Coward
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I would just like to point out that in the U.S. 15 degrees F works real well for playing outdoor hockey. Since you didn't specify, I will assume you are referring to 15 degrees C.
you also do not spend on national defense because the US protects you. you dont have any borders to patrol. you have a relatively small population and most of your country in uninhabited or frozen over...
-- The war with islam is a war on the beast
The war on terror is a war for peace
-- CleptDomainiac's motto... Only steal from the best.
Re:Consequences?
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RancidBeef
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I hope the US doesn't pay its "debt". The UN is fundamentally corrupt and anti-US. Why should we contribute to that?
Re:Yes, failed is the correct word.
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Russ+Nelson
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Why does everyone assume that 1) changing the CO2 level will reduce global warming, 2) that we are the cause of the current CO2 level, and 3) that we can change the current CO2 level? There's no science here, it's all based on faith. Environmentalism is a religion, and the US is a country that does not foist religions on its populace.
Go away, and come back when you have science. -russ
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Based on UN response to immediate crises around the world (Sudan Rwanda Iraq) I sispect consequences will be studies into why the offender was not able to comply, how it might make him feel, how other nations feel about it, maybe a letter of reprimand and a 10 year extension. The UN is very sensitive when it comes to "the peoples". So why didn't the US sign? If you're not gonna trip, why fake taking the acid?
Now I'm the grandest Tiger in the Jungle!
Given those 2 choices, I say we sign on. :)
Then in light of that statement, I propose you and your family be the first to lose their jobs.
What? Don't like that idea?
Since when are americans Christian?
I'm pretty sure I'm an american, AND not a christian. Amazing, I know. Sorry to go off topic like that, but we arent ALL bible-thumbers.
On Topic, however. Do we, as americans, have a right to pollute just as much as we want? Well, as far as I can tell, yes we do. If we want to pollute til we all day, it's our right to do so. Now, you might feel that it's NOT our right, because in doing so, we might take the rest of you with us. That is a valid concern. However, most of us over here just dont care about the rest of you. We tend to have a very strong attitude of "nobody else matters". It may not be right, but its the way it is (not everyone here is that way, but I'd safely say the majority - including myself).
Besides the point that the UN has no way of enforcing something like this, please note that it's in the US consitution that:
a) The US has given itself the right to enforce any of its law anywhere in the world.
b) No foreign laws will be enforceable in the US.
Kyoto is just whishful thinking.
To all you brainwashed americans who won't face the facts and take responsibilty for your own behaviour with the lame excuse that actually doing anything about reducing pollution is just too expensive or will cost a few american jobs...
How much money and jobs do you think a new ice age might cost? What sort of dent to your family budget and quality of life might total ecological shutdown cause?
You Dumbasses...
All they have to do is to pass a resolution and we will go and kill them all when they don't obey those resolutions. What's the big deal?
evil is as evil does
I would just like to point out that in the U.S. 15 degrees F works real well for playing outdoor hockey. Since you didn't specify, I will assume you are referring to 15 degrees C.
you also do not spend on national defense because the US protects you. you dont have any borders to patrol. you have a relatively small population and most of your country in uninhabited or frozen over...
The war with islam is a war on the beast
The war on terror is a war for peace
There is no Global warming.
The U.S. is right not to sign Kyoto.
I agree that it's all politics.
CleptDomainiac's motto... Only steal from the best.
I hope the US doesn't pay its "debt". The UN is fundamentally corrupt and anti-US. Why should we contribute to that?
Why does everyone assume that 1) changing the CO2 level will reduce global warming, 2) that we are the cause of the current CO2 level, and 3) that we can change the current CO2 level? There's no science here, it's all based on faith. Environmentalism is a religion, and the US is a country that does not foist religions on its populace.
Go away, and come back when you have science.
-russ
Don't piss off The Angry Economist