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Tech Reporter Pursues Spammer
girish writes "Technology reporter extrordinaire, Mike Wendland, is at it again tracking down spammers. Wendland conducted the infamous interview with Alan Ralsky, the alleged mega-spammer, a few years ago. That article spawned a lively discussion on Slashdot and eventually resulted in hundreds of pieces of junk postal mail flooding Ralsky's million-dollar home. Now Wendland is using a new tool from a service called Project Honey Pot to track email address harvesters. He posted on his technology blog this morning about catching a company that is holding itself out as a legitimate bulk mailer, but appears in fact to be sending to harvested addresses and conducting on the side some other seemingly seedy businesses. Interesting stuff."
Honeypots are lurking all over the net... spammers don't have a chance. They are so indiscriminate and stupid with their harvesting that they are just announcing their presence through a digital loudspeaker, "I AM A SPAMMER".
There might even be some on slashdot! Who knows?!
f*ck the spammers! They will ruin the best part of the internet or render it useless!
One of my honeypot email addresses has received several trojan horse messages from our friends at the spamhausen.
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Seems to me that this kind of thing should be fairly straight forward. I mean, sending millions of e-mails can't exactly be done "quietly" can it?
- crawford@goingware.com
A long time ago I decided I wanted to make it as easy as possible for potential clients to email me, so I have never spam-protected my email. It's all over a lot of different websites. It's all over Usenet too.On the other hand, I get a lot of spam. It's only just beginning to bother me. I have a friend, she gets maybe ten spams a day, and she gets so outraged that she reports them all to the abuse@ addresses and so on. Me, I get a few thousand spams a day. I read my email with elm because it's the only email client that can handle the huge mailboxes I get.
What's getting me down though are the viruses. At one point I was getting 400 MB a day of viruses. Now I've decided I'm going to set up a virus filter on my home linux box, and use fetchmail and spamassassin and clamav and what have you to filter it, and serve it with imap to my other computers.
My hosting service tried to filter all the viruses with clamav, but they got so many viruses that it was too much of a CPU load, so now they do only very simple virus filtering, to catch the most obvious viruses without much CPU consumption.
Request your free CD of my piano music.
A howto video on how to prent yourself so they will take you off their mailing list.
An relevant note here would be to mention Spamikaze system (intro here).
In a nutshell, it sets up spamtrap e-mail addresses, and any IP that sends mail to that address is automatically added to the blacklist, and further mails from it are rejected at SMTP level. A false positive can be easily removed from the blacklist manually (example, PSBL).
the university where I work has some fairly effective spam-killing filters set up.
We frequently see the following interesting fun:
a) People emailing us from blacklisted domains asking what's up. We inform them to complain to their ISP or use a different one.
b) spammers wanting through our filters so they can spam the 20k folks on our network. These are the most fun. I got to watch as the senior network engineer composed a 4000 word message to totally demolish any sort of hope the spammer had, and actually locate the physical address of the spammer. We got an "oh, sorry" reply, and heard nothing since.
Then again Mail providers aren't do as much to stop the proliferation of trojans, let alone spammers. How about not-permitting the sending or receiving of .exe and .vbs attachments. I bet this would cut down nearly 50% of infected computers since many people I know get a virus/trojan through their hotmail or yahoo account because of their ignorance. And if people bitch...read the modified TOS, gotta love those :p
The Postfix Spam Controls have reduced my spam by 95% without using compex spam filters like Spamassassin.
No spammer is going to authenticate individual messages to get them through a whitelist. Whitelists eliminate 99.9% of spam!
I added rules in my .procmailrc file to block all e-mails from the IP range of this company, this has worked very well for me (100%/0% positives/negatives)
Interestingly, since a few days I was again receiving quite similar spams, and this time they originate from the IP range of a company called Big Time Fiber. It turns out that the spams from Media Dreamland abruptly stopped after 10 november (spammer kicked out?) and after a few weeks the spammer apparently found a new hosting service.
I put the following lines in my .procmailrc:
* ^Received:.*\[204\.9\.24[0-7]\.
{
LOG = "[!!!! Big Time Fiber] "
}
and just this morning I found the following entries in my procmail log:
[!!!! Big Time Fiber] From rolffarris@newssign.net Sun Nov 21 00:16:08 2004 /dev/null 1550 /dev/null 1705 /dev/null 1739 /dev/null 1565 /dev/null 1623 /dev/null 1563
Subject: Would you like to stop smoking?
Folder:
[!!!! Big Time Fiber] From benniemilburn@minisaver.net Sun Nov 21 01:55:43 2004
Subject: Apple 17" iMac G5 Desktop!
Folder:
[!!!! Big Time Fiber] From rhettsmallwood@bigtopsavings.com Sun Nov 21 03:36:04 2004
Subject: Mortgage interest rates are at their lowest point ever.
Folder:
[!!!! Big Time Fiber] From bruce.tillery@e-goodstuff.com Sun Nov 21 05:20:55 2004
Subject: Women, something to rock your world
Folder:
[!!!! Big Time Fiber] From donovanragland@e-goodstuff.net Sun Nov 21 07:06:03 2004
Subject: Test & Keep an IBM Laptop - Product Testers Wanted
Folder:
[!!!! Big Time Fiber] From gilcolvin@bigfoodsavings.com Sun Nov 21 08:46:04 2004
Subject: You can be smart! Folder:
As you can see from the type of domain names these spams are probably from one spammer.
In the past I have received spams using the same trick from Webhostplus, Pharmakon and Aphrodite Marketing, but the spammer (now) operating from Big Time Fiber IP range appears by far the most active.
See also http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl (fill in "204.9.240.164" in the search box)
we just ignore spammers, will they go away?
Unlike the harvester, there's lots of information about the outfit behind the spam. The whois information points to an Illinois-based direct marketing company, Expedite Marketing Corporation.
Look at the output of "whois foo.com.au". It has absolutely no information at all. Yes, it gives two email addresses, but for the bulk of the domains the information of incorrect or outdated.
Ab-so-lu-te-ly useless if you're chasing problems.
bash$
...is forfeiture laws.
any property used in the commission of a crime (in this case, relay rape, botnets, spamming, etc) is seized and auctioned off to the public.
it's even better than destroying their property -- its taking their property away from them altogether. their home, their car, their computer, everything.
What if you find some old domain that used to get substantial mail traffic, but hasn't been used in like 5 years or something (expired). Spammers don't stop sending spam when addresses disappear (contrary to intuition), so if you purchased that domain you would start getting a huge amount of spam, using a wildcard. Also, it would be virtually guaranteed pure spam! Would be neat... anybody know of any old domains like this?
Curious, I punched up the IP address (69.6.66.17) in my web browser, and I get the default IIS page, telling me there is not a default web page... blah-blah-blah.
So this clown is either stupid and someone really has hacked his box and it's a zombie, or he's playing dead, and has set up the box to appear hacked, and is happily harvesting email addresses anyway. Either way, boxes like these should be shut down. Who leaves an unprotected IIS box exposed to the internet?
I'm curious if anyone is able to resolve that IP address to a street address. It has to be static. Get someone over to that address, see what's going on with this clown.
-- No sig for you!
more than one website can be hosted on a single server with one IP address, so its not at all unreasonable to have a default page when you visit the IP address as the URL.
Why should a spammer harvester mail addresses by himself? There are so many viruses, trojans etc out there: The Army Of Lamers can do it for him.
Have a look at this.
www.bigtimefiber.com resolves to 69.42.98.5 which resolves to host-98-5.approvednews.com.
A lookup on approvednews.com shows that it is owned by:
All the spammers have to do is to filter out the domains of known honey pots. Even with the donation of additional IP's by vounteers, this would be trivially easy to do.
You know, I think it's really cool that this guy is getting his jollies going after these scum but he may want to tone down his direct involvement with these people or at least do it more quietly. Why? Until recently, jail time wasn't even discussed as a possible punishment - now it's a harsh reality.
Faced with jail time I wouldn't be surprised to hear of some spammer tracker getting killed (or beat up) for his efforts to report them. We already know the kind of people that are mixed up in spam so it doesn't seem like to far a stretch...
"...Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam..."
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Wow! I think that bit bucket might need to be emptied soon!
What I don't understand is, with all of the negative publicity that spam gets, why do people still buy stuff from spammers? Although everyone claims to hate spam, I recall reading an article on /. a while ago that said as many as 10% of people buy stuff from spam, this just seems ridiculous to me. If I were walking down the street and I saw what looked like a delapedated, possible condemned building, and as I walked by 50 guys with crudely made signs ran outside surrounded me screaming "buy our product" I sure as hell would do whatever I could to get out of the situation, spam is the digital equivilent of this, yet people still buy into it. I guess it's that too many people think GIGO means Garbage In Gosple Out. As long as there are people buying the products though, there will never be a technological solution to the problem of spam.
I guess stories like this could help by showing what creeps spammers are, but the only people who are going to read articles like this already know the evils of spam. Perhaps we need to get a bunch of donations and run a commerical during prime time reality tv equating spam to terrorism?
Anyway, sorry for the somewhat offtopic rant, just been rather upset with spam more than usual lately, an email address that i've had for almost 4 years that never got a single spam has finally been getting inundated with it because some fucktard had to go and put my address in a CC with 100 other people for some stupid chain letter, and then one of those machines got pwnd and now the address is out there (BCC PEOPLE, IF YOU HAVE TO SEND THOSE DAMNABLE CHAIN LETTERS TO SO MANY PEOPLE LEARN TO USE BCC FOR $diety SAKE).
Famous Last Words: "hmm...wikipedia says it's edible"
That particular spammer offers a newsletter on his homepage. Please wait, I will just sign in...
Spam this:
I figure anyone who spams SpamCop deserves what they get.
sub f{($f)=@_;print"$f(q{$f});";}f(q{sub f{($f)=@_;print"$f(q{$f});";}f});
Timestamped ip addresses will get you closer to the email address harvester, but I have another solution that targets the business claiming that you opted in to their spam. Make contracts in the email address enforceable by law. If you send a message to sender.agrees.to.pay.me.500.usd.for.processing@mys ite.com, I have the option to collect $500 from you.
So what you're saying, is he gets just as much junk snail mail as the rest of us do? Doesn't sound like we made much impact, to me.
I get massively less spam than you - around 300 a day, though most of it gets stopped dead at the mail gateway by ordb.org and dsbl.org checks. I get about 100 or so spam actually delivered, and SA (set to be pretty forgiving) filters out all but 10 or so per day. I don't envy being in your position.
Viruses, however, are another story. I haven't seen one in six months - it's fantastic. A combination of some postfix rules and ClamAV on the internal (sendmail) mail server did the trick. If you run postfix at your mail gateway, you can get it to check incoming mail for suspicious filenames before it even accepts the mail:(note: the regexp and message are all on one line, though I should move to an extended regex and split it up).
*blam*. There goes 99% of your incoming virus mail. ClamAV gets the rest, so I just don't get viruses anymore. Best of all, you're not generating bounces for virues, you're rejecting them instantly - so unless they're using some dumb bastard to relay, there won't be any mess of bounces to falsified addreses to worry about.
What about the new waves of self-zipping viruses, you ask? Yeah, that's an issue. I cheat and quarantine all zip files. I rarely have to retrieve one, and it's well worth the saved fuss.
As for mail programs, I'm happily using Evolution with IMAP over a 512k/256k effective link to work's Cyrus IMAPd server (all this stuff is set up for work). It works great, and I'm able to use 20,000 message mailboxes without noticable stress. Sieve (the cyrus IMAPd filter language) filters everything into the right mailboxes server-side, so if I'm in a hurry I just read my (always small and managable) INBOX without worrying about my lists.* folders, the (server-side filtered) Junk folder, or anything else.
It's great.
What? Why?
You work far to hard. Just use Spamhaus' sbl-xbl DNSBL zone and you'll never see this spam from Bill Waggoner.
Oh, if you were in Atlanta last week at the Inboxer show, you could have thanked Bill in person.
Whilst I disagree with much of what you say, I disagree more with the mods who declared this "Offtopic". It's more on-topic than half the comments in your average Slashdot discussion. Anyway...
An individual imprisoning someone else without cause has done A Bad Thing, and should be punished.
Does this mean the state shouldn't imprison someone who has committed a serious crime (including the person just mentioned)?
In general, this means we can't punish anyone because it'd be unfair for anyone to have that happen to them without having done anything wrong.
No one should have to endure the pain and annoyance of spam: it's the scurge of the online world. Not even the spammer, who may be in his business because of factors outside his control like debt or bills for an illness in the family, etc.
Personally, I don't think spamming a spammer would be appropriate punishment, because it doesn't have the same effect as spamming a *large* number of *separate* people. But I disagree with the logic used in your argument against it (see above).
I also disagree with "poor spammer" argument; this could be used to justify all manner of crimes. If the spammer is poor and desparate, this should be taken into account by the courts when sentencing.
And if they're sitting on their lazy ass in a luxurious house with four expensive cars bought on the proceeds of their business, this should also be taken into account.
Spam == bad. Victimization == bad. Why do people conflate the two?
It's not victimisation. It's a punishment "appropriate" to something wrong being done. As mentioned above, I don't think it's as appropriate as it appears at first, but that's beside the point.
"Slashdot - News and Chat Sites Deviant". (Click "homepage" link above for details).
That's what I miss on the Project Honeypot site statistics! It lists nr. of spams received, servers identified, etc, but I want statistics on the follow-through as well!
- Nr of scumbag spammers identified.
- Nr of bookclubs, cooky sects and mail order firms these spammers have been signed up with.
- Nr of spammers served/sued.
- Nr of spammers drawn & quartered by angry mob.
Come one... inquiring (and vengeful) mind wants to know.
If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
Minor problem: A percentage stays the same if you multiply the base quantity it refers to.
5% is still 5%, whether over 100 messages or 100,000.
I can personally attest to good results with a wee bit of work on my Postfix config. I was unwilling to be as draconian in my policy as this poster must've been, so I was only able to block about 60%.
I have been doing a little tracking down of a Spammer myself from my state.
...
A few months back, when the free iPod craze started - a company in my state started sending out emails from:
Product Test Panel
Consumer Research Corporation
Subscriberbase.com
Saying, "Product Testers Wanted". They would go from hot product to hot product. Sometimes, not even released products - like the Nintendo DS was advertised almost 2 months ago - claiming immediate shipment.
I found that they were in my state by reading the actual email and seeing a location in my state and then by confirming it with whois information.
I then sent off an email to the contact. I got an email from a guy named Brian Benehaley. In typical fashion, all of my accusations were denied.
Turns out, if you Google this guy's name - he has written a well respected piece [respected amongst bulk emailers] about how the Can Spam Act will bring a new renaissance in email marketing.
I have since written the Better Business Bureau about him, found the record for the company is now in the 1000's of complaints
I have contacted my state attorney general which is conducting thorough investigation
I contacted the host ISP - Exodus - they have over 12000 complaints lodged against Subscriberbase.com
I have written a piece that has gotten into Google searches - that receives a few emails and comments each week.
More info about Product Test Panel
It has been quite fun to research this guy and put various internet tools to my disposal.
This was a good story to see what techniques Mr. Wendland used.
Google, Whois, MY BLOG, The BBB online, My attorney general all helped me
Yell & scream & rant & rave... it's no use... you need a shaaaave ~ Bugs Bunny
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It'd be nice if Postfix was as simple as SpamAssassin. Unfortunately, MTAs are complex - mostly because the Internet and eMail are complex, and because of all the ugly hacks and workarounds required to actually get mail to and from lots of the the utterly broken garbage that claim they're mailservers.
Postfix can, however, be a fantastic front line of defence for people who get so much spam that SpamAssassin alone can't cope, or who want to reduce the considerable system loads imposed by running SpamAssassin on a large volume of mail.
If SpamAssassin does the job well enough that learning advanced Postfix configuration isn't worth your time, that's fine. It _is_ worth it for some, though, and those people don't much care that it takes a wee while - they want to make sure they don't lose mail, and they want to save time in the long term by cutting down spam. Those goals are worth a bit of short-term time cost.
Few mail installations are the same, as few sites have the same requirements and make different choices on trade-offs like false positives vs block rates, and compatibility with broken mail servers. This means that Postfix needs to be configurable.
Given just how configurable it is, I think it does a good job of being fairly easy to configure.
This is how I keep spam from ruining my email while also catching spammers in the act:
I have a domain (examancer.com) and a cheap hosting company that allows unlimited email accounts. Every time I give out an email address I make up one that will remind me why I gave it out (like slashdot@examancer.com, nytimes@examancer.com, someotherservice@examancer.com, etc...). I don't actually have to set up each account because I have all undeliverable mail sent right to my main account. If I start receiving spam, I just look at which address its sent to and I know right away which company sold my address or which online forum my email was harvested from. If the spam gets too bad, I actually go and create a real mailbox for that address and route it to a black hole... viola, no more spam.
Unfortunately it's the computer-illiterate people who are are the target of spammers.
They are the ones that don't know how to set up proper spam filters, they are the ones who are stupid enough to give another website their banking details despite having been told by all their friends / family / news reports and other websites never to give their password out.
While there are stupid people with access to a computer out there, spammers will always make a fortune.
I knew if I had the physical addresses of these spammers blah blah blah, links his moderngeek.com website, /me does a quick google or 2, hilarity ensues
Slashthugz. Listen, bad boy... I don't think that you, or your friends have the spammers quaking in their proverbial boots. I would be more scared of getting pwned, or molotov cocktailed from your types. Nice macquarium, though.
music lover since 1969
Don't make the mistake that if it's not covered by the U.S. CAN-SPAM law, that it isn't spamming, or that someone has to be convicted in a court of law before they can be called a spammer. He hasn't been convicted of being a major asshole, but it's quite safe to call him that.
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
Personally, I use a combination of tarpits, poisoning their databases, and a website that is rumored to kill the little bastages.
On the same page where I do all this, I also include links to the House and Senate email address pages, figuring if I get spammed, Congress should, too :-)
--- Asking inconvenient questions for over 30 years...
For those less technical, you can create unique and disposable addresses that forward to your real account with some other neat features to give you control of how each address is handled and the ability to send from the disposable. They even have open-source on how to setup the mechanisms for your own server. I have no affiliation with the site, just a satisfied user. http://www.spamgourmet.com/
... but its a DRY heave -- me
There is no right to feel safe thru security vaudeville at the expense of everyone's freedom, privacy and tax money.
And more. So what if Yahoo! is not peddling "herbal viagra"? They are still spamming -- oh, yes, you can always unsubscribe -- but since I never subscribed in the first place, I don't see why I should be unsubscribing.
I keep a Yahoo! mailbox around -- just in case, and clean it up every once in a while. Yahoo!'s spamguard is a useful tool to keep the outside spam out, but Yahoo!'s partner Motley Fool always gets into my mailbox despite me classifying it as spam several times already.
If the "icons" like Yahoo! are spamming shamelessly, what's the point of going after the darker hats? Spam should be an outrageous incident, then there'd be hope.
As for honey-potting, the simple technique is to use a unique address each time you give your address out. Like mi+ebuyer@aldan.algebra.com (sendmail users don't even need to change anything on their servers for this). Once the address starts getting spam, you know, who squealed.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
... I'm asked about 10 to 20 times a day.
Where has all the Viagra spam gone?
Who the hell would outsource their mailing lists?
Anyway, if you really want to get your free iPod, this is what you have to do:
- Sign up for AOL 9.0 for Broadband
- Buy $39.95 worth of miracle pills
- Subscribe to the New Yourk (sic) Times
- Opt in to about 412 "mailing lists"
- Enroll in about 32 other shady programs
- Wait 3 months
And if you've done all of that, you're a complete idiot who is going to get what you deserve, and if you think it's an iPod, ha yeah right. Enjoy your spam, sucka!Save yourself the hassle and just go buy the damned iPod.
How am I supposed to fit a pithy, relevant quote into 120 characters?
Okay, I've decided to mete out some Vigilante Justice(tm). Does anyone know of a spam house in the Toronto area? Or does anyone know how I should go about researching to find one? As soon as I find one (and have verified it to be a spam source) I'll make my way over there and instill some serious fear in their hearts. Here's (some of) what I'll do:
1.) I'll destroy said spammer's car (or other mode of transport, unless publicly owned), through tire slashing, window smashing, paint scratching, and any other ideas you guys have.
2.) I'll spray paint said spammer's place of business, as well as his/her domicile (unless said spammer has a family present; it's not their fault, right?)
3.) I'll take photographs of said spammer, and follow him/her to his/her neighbourhood. I will subsequently post photographs around the neighbourhood identifying him/her as a spammer to friends and neighbours. I will request and enlist the aid of local merchants such as grocery stores in allowing me to post said spammer's likeness in public areas.
4.) I'll make a papier-mâché head in the likeness of said spammer, and place it on a pike outside said spammer's place of business, along w/ a note threatening that the life of said spammer will be forfeit should he/she send any further unsolicited mail or email.
5.) I'll do any other deeds this forum suggests that I think are viable and warranted.
6.) I'll post pictures of the entire process in an online forum somewhere and announce it for all to see.
So how about it? Anyone want to join my vigilante anti-spam army? I'd wager there's at least one slashdot reader within an hour's drive of any given spammer in north america, and indeed, perhaps even on Earth. Why don't we make a name for ourselves as the group who slayed spam where litigation and legislation couldn't.
Who's with me? Innocent owners of zombie machines can be educated (forcefully or otherwise) on proper operation of a computer, while the true spammers will be made to suffer.
And again... how do I find a spam-house in the Toronto area?
Beating up journalists is hazardous to your health. Some crooks have tried. What happens then is that hundreds of other journalists start investigating the story. TV trucks start showing up in front of the bad guy's house. Stories like "Why isn't this guy in jail yet" appear. Soon, there's heavy police attention focused on the crook.
Few crooks survive heavy press coverage. It's hard to stay in the shadows when there's a TV light in your face.
4000 words, huh? I'm sure he had nothing better to be doing. Let's hope this university isn't public... your tax dollars hard at work.
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Internet Explorer (n): Another bug -- that is, a feature that can't be turned off -- in Windows.
As for the wider public. In holland we got a tv program "ook dat nog" wich is a copy of a bbc program that highlights people problems with businesses and goverment with what some call humor.
It is/was a pretty popular program with very high viewer ratings. It also been on for years.
At least once per season it would show the hosts informing us about people who been suckered into pyramid schemes and such. Year in year people have been warned that these schemes are pure scams. Year in year out people fall for them.
For the emails that are scams the old saying goes, "you can't scam an honest man". Like those nigerian emails. No honest person would fall for them.
Same with those work from home scams. Honest people who know about things like taxes and being self employed know that it can't be true. If you could make 75 an hour sitting on your couch then why do they have to recruit? You would think they needed to beat the applicants of them with sticks.
Finally you got the viagra and other stuff. This is just aimed at the stupid. You will be amazed how many there are. It is not even stupid as in trailer trash. It is stupid as in not being able to reason enough to see the logic flaws.
Lets face it if there really was a way to increase the penis with natural herbs then it would be sold all over. Men being men even Long Slong Silver would be popping the pills day and night.
Stupid people are everywhere and scammers know this. /. hides them at -1 but sadly there is no moderation system in the real world.
I never seen the ipod links you refer to, try setting your post limit higher. It is less adventurous but saves your sanity.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Just walk into a KNOWN (and profiled) spammer's house and put two rounds into his head. Eventually the news will spread that someone is killing spammers and then the fear will get out there. Spam and quite literally end up dead. Sometimes the old ways that worked hundreds of years ago can still work today. When the law is broken, only the lawless will survive.
Stop buying crap from them. Seriously. If it wasnt' profitable for them, they wouldn't do it.
-Jay
here is a better picture of me: http://users.moderngeek.com/preston/preston.jpg That one is about 4 years old, the macquarium was cool though.
Sig: I stole this sig.
When it comes to spammers and their email harvesting software, why not fight fire with fire?
:-)
Set up your own payback page then check your server logs and smile every time those on that page get added to another spammer's list
That works fine until some idiot spammer joe jobs your domain. :(
Unfortunately the online records for Oakland County seem to go back to only 2003, at freep and the actual county site sucks ass:
http://www.freep.com/realestate/oakland/
but if you live in the area and you'd like to exact karmic justice by leaving unnecessary parcels up to and including firebombs, I'm sure you could call up the local Oakland County government and ask for access to information on ~$740,000 closings which took place in October or November of 2002, I'm pretty sure they have to give it to you:
http://www.co.oakland.mi.us/clerkrod/contact/
Register of Deeds: (248)858-0605
Anyone comment on the practicality of exploiting the harversters?
Anyone know the harverster programs that are most used??
Actually yes, Expedite, Wholesale Bandwidth, and ALL of that block are owned by Scott Richter. optinrealbig.com. I have been tracking him for months bc of the harvested addresses from my sites.
List of Phone numbers:
OptinRealBig.com: (303) 464-8164
Richter's Extention is: 742
Scott Richter's Cell phone number: 1.303.550.9828
..from their website. I noticed that the "click here for some of our satisfied customers" link was missing from the FAQ page, but here is a helpful testimonial from Sandra Swohn, a satisfied Expedite customer.
." -- Sandra Swohn
"Expedite Internet Marketing Expedite Internet Marketing Expedite Internet Marketing Expedite Internet Marketing Expedite Internet Marketing Expedite Internet Marketing Expedite Internet Marketing Expedite Internet Marketing Expedite Internet Marketing Expedite Internet Marketing Expedite Internet MarketingExpedite Internet Marketing
Indeed.
I picked up this link from a thread ages ago mailinator.com - you just make up any word and put it at mailinator dot com and you can go and check your mail at the site. I think the mailbox stays active for 24hrs or similar. Very very useful for registrations and stuff.
I doubt there is much that an angry band of nerds couldn't accomplish... So hunting down spammers as a hobby/game could help put a dent in spam...
Get your torrents...
So murdering spammers is your solution to spam? What good will that do? the dead spammer's computing/spamming assets will likely find their way to individuals who can act as suppliers for spammers. It's like the illegal drug trade, the 'mules' are patsies that get busted, procecuted, and jailed while the drug kingpins remain at large ready and willing to entice another 'mule-to-be' with a wad of quick cash for risking their life and their freedom.
Your homicidal approach will only make the smart spammers become spammer suppliers and the dumb spammers doing the actual spamming potential targets for murder.
Ok, how do you go about killing notorious megaspammers who do not live in the USA where most the megaspammers live? By your rationale they deserve to die as well.
Going after spammers is a whack-a-mole proposition.
The best thing to do is to ignore them with effective email filtering. Mounting counterattacks like DoSing the spamvertised sites or filling webforms with mountains of digital garbage is, in the end, a waste of time and resources.
Just filter 'em out!
zwallet? I welcome UCE - I get paid to open and delete it.
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