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Chimpanzees Shed New Light on Hand Preference

An anonymous reader writes "'Language skills are associated with the left side of the brain, and many scientists have said early humans developed a preference for their right hands when they acquired speech,' but Emory University's Yerkes National Primate Research Center has a new study that links hand preference to the motor skills area of the brain rather than the language part of the brain. 'That means lefties have probably been around much longer than believed -- at least 5 million years, when scientists say humans and apes branched on the primate family tree. And evolution has purposely kept them.'"

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  1. ... evolution has purposely kept them ... by andorsch · · Score: 5, Insightful
    why? evolution is not a process of "optimisation" it is a selection process. Those who are "good enough" survive.

    Obviously there is no disadvantage for being left handed, why should there be a selection against it?

    1. Re:... evolution has purposely kept them ... by Bwian_of_Nazareth · · Score: 5, Interesting
      There is a advantage of being left-handed - it is the element of surprise when you meet your foe. This obviously works only when the percentage of left-handed individuals is low enough - around 10 - 20 %, IIRC.

      I am left-handed and I can say I do take advantage of it. I play volleyball and it always takes some adjusting until the opponent starts to block my left hand instead of my right. Playing squash, opponent often let me play mostly forhand because they don't realise my weak side is the other one.
      And quite obviously, this is even true for two left-handed opponents playing against each other. With majority of my opponents being right-handed, I myself am taken bu surprise when I meet left-handed opponent.

      Obvously, this advantage is lesser in repeated encounters and lesser when there are more left-handed people around.

    2. Re:... evolution has purposely kept them ... by Maavin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Obviously there is no disadvantage for being left handed, why should there be a selection against it?

      Could you please forward that insight to Logitech ?

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    3. Re:... evolution has purposely kept them ... by mirko · · Score: 2, Funny

      There is a advantage of being left-handed - it is the element of surprise when you meet your foe

      Most FPS games now have the option to make your character left or right handed when it's using an ae or something, so it's no more a surprise :)

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    4. Re:... evolution has purposely kept them ... by nickco3 · · Score: 3, Informative

      There are clear disadvantages to being left-handed, in the life expectancy stakes us lefties hold our own until we reach about 33, then it swing decisely against us, with only 1 in 200 80 year-olds being lefties.

      Evolution ruthlessly selects against even slightly disadvantageous genes, those that incur an apparently small 1% reduction in offspring quickly dwindle down to nothing when you repeat that over 20 or 30 generations. Genetically inflicted conditions usually have some kind of balancing factor that keeps them in the gene-pool, e.g. sickle-cell gene seems to protect against malaria, which gave it a role in West Africa, but it is already be edged out of the US gene-pool where it is no longer required.

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    5. Re:... evolution has purposely kept them ... by Raumkraut · · Score: 2, Insightful

      However, if in the past lefthandedness was often/usually beaten out of children, you would expect fewer lefties in older generations.

    6. Re:... evolution has purposely kept them ... by philkerr · · Score: 2, Informative
      There is a Scottish clan, the Kerr's, who are known for being left-handed and built their castle with a left-handed spiral staircase, to deter right-handed enemy attacks.

      Ferniehirst Castle, Wikipedia article

      (And yes, I am partly left-handed ;)

    7. Re:... evolution has purposely kept them ... by biglig2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Eh? That doesn't make any sense.

      Yes, all castles spiral the staircase the same way, so that it is easier (for right handed people) to fight down than it is up.

      But this trick only works if both defenders and attackers are the same-handed.

      If the defenders are left handed and attackers right-handed, then this fails, since the defenders are impeded as well as the attackers. Flipping the direction of the stair, while meaning that the defenders have it easier, also makes it easier for the right-handed attackers to fight up.

      Having attackers and defenders opposite hands just means neither side has an advantage.

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    8. Re:... evolution has purposely kept them ... by andorsch · · Score: 2, Informative
      but you do not get optimal organisms, just good enough ones to survive and reproduce!

    9. Re:... evolution has purposely kept them ... by YouHaveSnail · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And evolution has purposely kept them.

      I have a big problem with the word "purposely." Evolution does not do anything "purposely," or with intention. Natural selection is a process that applies to all things that reproduce, whether it's an ape or a computer virus, just as gravity applies to all things that have mass.

    10. Re:... evolution has purposely kept them ... by Have+Blue · · Score: 4, Funny

      "You are wonderful."
      "Thank you; I've worked hard to become so. "
      "I admit it, you are better than I am."
      "Then why are you smiling? "
      "Because I know something you don't know."
      "And what is that? "
      "I... am not left-handed!"

      [...]

      "You are amazing."
      "I ought to be, after 20 years."
      "Oh, there's something I ought to tell you."
      "Tell me."
      "I'm not left-handed either!"

    11. Re:... evolution has purposely kept them ... by WormholeFiend · · Score: 4, Funny

      Most FPS games now have the option to make your character left or right handed when it's using an ae or something, so it's no more a surprise :)

      In Unreal 2004, you can choose one of three positions -- left, right, or middle.

      However, the game manual does not explain what body part you use to hold the weapon if you choose the "middle" position.

    12. Re:... evolution has purposely kept them ... by VAXcat · · Score: 2, Funny

      It also makes it easier to fire your handgun at oncoming traffic (not in the UK, Singapore, Australia or Ireland, natch).

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  2. why choose? by adeydas · · Score: 2, Interesting

    if lefties has a better channce of using the brain's motor neurons, then why did evolution choose to have 2/3 righties in the chimp population. doesn't it goes against darwin's theory?

    1. Re:why choose? by Ralph+Yarro · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As being a slut and trailer-trash aren't genetical predispositions (neither is being a scientist), that's not what's going on.

      You're over simplifying. Urge to have sex is definitely genetic in origin. Being discriminating in choice of sexual partners is definitely genetic in origin. Social factors certainly influence both, but the basics of seeking suitable mates and then having sex with them is genetic. Unless I've misunderstood what you mean by a "slut" then genetics play a major role in this and there can be evolutionary factors towards more or less "slutiness".

      "Being a scientist" is more of a stretch but a general desire to investigate the environment again has genetic origins - without at least a basic element of this we wouldn't learn anything so it can't be a pure learned response. Once you accept that it is genetic at its most basic level, I don't see how you could deny that genetics can push someone more or less strongly in that direction. Granted, there isn't an actual "physicist" gene which determines your career :)

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  3. From the its-bloody-obvious-department by physicsphairy · · Score: 4, Funny
    "a new study that links hand preference to the motor skills area of the brain"

    So, essentially what they've proven is that the motor skills part of the brain may effect the development of our motor skills?

    Man, I can't wait until I get my Ph.D.! This research scientist stuff is going to be a piece of cake!

    1. Re:From the its-bloody-obvious-department by martingunnarsson · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This was my first reaction too. Why the hell would hand preference be connected to the language part of the brain?

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    2. Re:From the its-bloody-obvious-department by Arker · · Score: 4, Informative

      Being that this is related to my work, and I've been following the debate for awhile on it, I can tell you it's more complicated than this lame article makes it sound.

      Unfortunately I wasn't able to find a copy of their actual paper (it may not be published yet,) and newspaper articles just aren't conscious enough to be very usable as sources here. I have read some of this guys earlier papers, along with others, and I at least have some background on what they're talking about though.

      It's been known for quite some time that handedness is associated with Broca's Area a part of the brain generally associated with language. However, the simplistic equation of Broca's area = language is not necessarily true - our understanding of the brain isn't that fine-grained, Broca's area may have several function, or may actually be several organs we're conflating. It's also definately associated with some motor functions, for instance facial gestures, and it's been argued that it's primary function may be one of motor control, not language. So what exactly handedness being associated with Broca's means is still clearly up for debate.

      This paper by Corballis, is probably the best summary of recent research on the question that I'm able to find a clear link to for you right now - not that it's nearly thorough enough to serve that purpose really, but it does cover a lot of ground, and most articles like this are not available without subscription. Anyway, it has been argued that handedness was caused by language, but it's also been argued, for instance, that human language arose originally from a mixture of manual gestures, facial gestures, and involuntary vocalisations which change soundshape with those facial gestures, thus becoming distinguishable representations of them. In this scenario, Broca's primary function was motor control, and it became associated with language before language became the primarily vocal thing it is for most of us today.

      What exactly Hopkins new data is, and what exactly he's arguing it shows, I honestly can't figure out from this article though. It's not even clear to me whether he's saying he has more evidence that Broca's is primarily a motor control centre, rather than a language center, or if he's found an association with another part of the brain entirely. I am looking forward to reading his actual paper.

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  4. I for one welcome our new left-handed overlords by IainMH · · Score: 4, Funny


    *extends left hand*

  5. most dogs are left handed by GuyFawkes · · Score: 2, Interesting

    i fact just about every creature in nature and everything in nature has "handedness"

    only a "scientist" could attribute this to something recent like language skills.

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  6. Re:!tsop dednah tfet tsriF by mccalli · · Score: 4, Interesting
    HE shouldn't have been using the devil's hand in the first place

    You Sinistromanualist, you...

    More seriously the, errr, granparent post is referring to this happening to his grandfather. Minus the beating, this was still happening to me when I was at school in the eighties (UK). An English teacher made a concerted effort to force me to be right-handed, and it completely messed up my writing. You can see a clear difference between the schoolbooks I had before her 'teaching', and those I wrote afterwards.

    For the worse, of course.

    Cheers,
    Ian

  7. Evolution wants to be anthropomorphised? by Nine+Tenths+of+The+W · · Score: 3, Funny

    Since when has evolution* purposely chosen to do anything

    *In case there are any Americans reading, so as not to offend I'll include the standard disclaimer that evolution is just a theory and it's equally likely we were created out of mud 6000 years ago and fossils are the result of God's sense of humour.

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    1. Re:Evolution wants to be anthropomorphised? by Nine+Tenths+of+The+W · · Score: 2, Informative

      True. However, in most countries they don't approach 45% of the population.

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    2. Re: Evolution wants to be anthropomorphised? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2, Insightful


      > You don't think that labelling anyone who may have faith in a higher power (whether or not you agree with them) as a whacko is just a trifle intolerant?

      Yep. You should only call them whacko when they maintain beliefs that have been refuted by huge piles of evidence, such as belief in a young earth or a global flood.

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    3. Re:Evolution wants to be anthropomorphised? by c0p0n · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I was raised as a Catholic and am still a firm believer in creationism...

      Me too. But I ended believing such things as soon as I realized that the Wise Men were my parents. I can understand that you believe such things. But my tolerancy doesn't make you less fool.

      I can understand a catholic saying "Big Bang was God stuff to create us all". Or a variation of that, that would make much more sense than all that crazy Genesis stuff. But we were NOT created on 6 days. There's enough touchable evidency of that. On the counterpart, you have an ancient book that has been proved many times to be wrong (when speaking about historical facts, not the religious content which is another business).

      I am no more a catholic believer, but I know all about that (I grew for 9 years on a Jesuit boarding school) and I can say one thing about my Jesuit biology teachers: they didn't mention a single time the creationist theory. We studied deeply the current biology paradigm, as done in any other Spanish school. Things about the bible and religion had another place and another time; when speaking about science, our teachers taught us on the current scientific paradigm.

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    4. Re:Evolution wants to be anthropomorphised? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Consider the two options:
      1. Create people and animals by waving your hands and saying `let there be stuff'
      2. Create an incredibly simple system in which a combination of seemingly random events give rise to the evolution of consciousness.
      Personally, I'd have more faith in a God who did the second - it's far more elegant - any God that opts for option 1 clearly has no sense of style. Assuming the existence of God, I'd say that belief in creationism is rather insulting to said being.
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    5. Re:Evolution wants to be anthropomorphised? by kahei · · Score: 4, Interesting


      As a christian, I strongly agree.

      It's ridiculous to suppose that God would have created a whole universe and then expected us to restrict our examination of it to a short list of statements.

      And in Victorian times, everyone used to think the same way; the business of a scientist(*) was to admire, analyse, and better appreciate God's creation. Then the ****ing Evangelicals came along and it all went straight to heck.

      (*)Except Frankenstein.

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    6. Re:Evolution wants to be anthropomorphised? by clarkcox3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I mean, i don't believe in magical pink unicorns either, but you can't pretend to be more enlightened than someone else when you have no evidence that a magical pink unicorns doesn't exist.

      The burden of proof lies with the one making the outrageous claim. The existence of an all-powerful being is an outrageous claim.

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    7. Re:Evolution wants to be anthropomorphised? by Scarblac · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No more outrageous than saying everything that has happened in all of the universes and galaxies seen and unseen up until now has happened by random chance.

      Indeed. And in fact that claim is rather more outrageous (science claims the universe is much older, bigger, more complicated, more awesome etc than religion ever has, and the claim is that the processes that caused all of it are actually understandable by us).

      The difference is that the outrageous claims of science are backed up by a stupefying amount of evidence, and the religious claims by zilch.

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  8. Re:!tsop dednah tfet tsriF by TheRealSync · · Score: 3, Informative

    nor am I a member of Mensa unforunately

    Actually we had a poll on the members only section of our local mensa chapters website regarding this exact question - the conclusion being that we didn't have an unusually high (or low for that matter) number of lefties.

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  9. "Purposely"? by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 3, Insightful
    And evolution has purposely kept them.
    That sounds like evolution is something that deliberately picks what it thinks are good traits, and then decides to keep them around. In other words: God :)

    Perhaps left-handedness doesn't have any advantages, but no drawbacks detrimental to survival either. That too would allow it to remain in the 'gene pool'.
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    1. Re:"Purposely"? by dave420 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In the same way that gravity purposely decides what's balanced, and what will topple. You can call it God if you want, I just call it well-documented and well-researched science :)

    2. Re:"Purposely"? by dave420 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Evolutions goals don't change at all - I don't know where you got that idea from. Evolution is a process. The process is continual. It's just the materials which get processed that change...

      Evolution strives as much as physics does - that is not at all. Both happen as a result of the physical makeup of the universe. Their "goals" remain the same - as goal of multiplication remains the same, as does that of subtraction :)

    3. Re:"Purposely"? by Scarblac · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Doubtful as gravity's goals don't change like evolution's does.

      Evolution is just the phenomenon that if the exact genes of individuals can drift a tiny bit over the generations, and if some sets of genes tend to produce more offspring than others, you end of with more of one type than another over a long time.

      It doesn't have "goals".

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  10. Re:dude, read the bible by krymsin01 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, well it's BUSH'S fault that he can't READ.

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  11. Re:I had never heard of this by DataCannibal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Nothing to do with handedness, that's just the way wome are. You'll realise that as you get to know more of them :-)

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  12. Poor lefty chimps... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...must be difficult to find lefthanded bananas

  13. "Chimpanzees Shed New Light..." by The+Dodger · · Score: 2, Funny
    First time I've heard of IT helpdesk staff actually doing anything useful...

    D.

    1. Re:"Chimpanzees Shed New Light..." by Nine+Tenths+of+The+W · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's an outrageous comparison. Chimpanzees are capable of using simple tools and learning from their mistakes.

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  14. It's a preference, and is condemned in the Bible by Nine+Tenths+of+The+W · · Score: 5, Funny

    To suggest that left handedness is genetic is a socialist lie. It is condemned in the Bible, like being crippled and eating shellfish. Everyone knows that left handedness is a choice, a sinful lifestyle promoted by Satanic liberals. Even the scientific term, sinister, reveals it's Luciferian origin. Concerned parents must act now to stop children being taught to be left handed in schools, and to stop the media being overrun by positive depictions of left handedness. Would you want your child to be fondled by a left handed pedophile coming home from a sickening Sinster Pride march?

    Order a copy of "What Liberals Don't Want You to Know about the Left Handed Agenda", by Salvation Publications, for only $99.99. Comes with guaranteed promise of Heaven and a free shotgun.

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  15. speaking from the midline by bloodredsun · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is an interesting study but I'm not sure how relevant it is.
    Humans have several areas of the brain where structure and therefore function differ vastly from other primates. Specifically the areas of the brain dealing with speech (Broca's and Wernicke's areas) and the connection between the two (arcuate fascicus). These areas have a definite correlation to handedness as a right-handed person has a 97% chance of having these speech structures on the left versus the right while in a left-handed person has a 50-50 chance of this (if my neuroanatomy is correct). This is why speech mapping must be performed on patients who will undergo neurosurgery near possible speech centres, for example in a temporal lobectomy.

    1. Re:speaking from the midline by bloodredsun · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Then what was I watching for the 3 years of my PhD!

      You're right in that pre-frontal lobotomies (a la "one flew over the cuckoo's nest") are no longer done but you will find that temporal lobectomies are common for medically-refractive temporal lobe seizures (espec. due to hippocampal sclerosis pathology) and even entire hemispheres (a hemispherotomy) for Rassmussens syndrome are still performed.

      On a lighter note, the wonderfully named "Multiple SubPial Transections" has been shown to be very effective for Landau-Kleffner syndrome (where sufferers have extreme difficulty in speech), so you must be very relieved!

  16. This is great news! by teamhasnoi · · Score: 2, Funny
    My puzzling habit of throwing my poop with my left hand is one step closer to being explained!

    Thank you, science monkey!

  17. Re:!tsop dednah tfet tsriF by darkpixel2k · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One strange thing I've noticed when teaching and attending Emergency Medical Services (read 'ambulance service') classes is that there are a higher number of lefties then the general population.

    At the station in my town 4 out of the 9 EMS workers are left handed.

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  18. Re:i am left handed and yes... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm ambidextrous. I'm better than both of you.

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  19. What about ambidextrous? by smacktits · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm ambidextrous, and I'm in MENSA. Admittedly I was forced to learn to use my left hand while taking several years to recover from an injury to my right hand, so it's not 100% natural. Does that count?

    It's fun to be writing something in front of someone who doesn't know, and switch hands and continue perfectly. The look on their faces is priceless ;)

    1. Re:What about ambidextrous? by dJOEK · · Score: 3, Insightful

      why do mensa members feel the need to constantly plug that fact?

      The fact that you're in mensa really has nothing to do with being ambidextrous.

      I suggest you try therapy, since you obviously have some problems to adapt to society, and it might wipe that smug "I'm-smarter-than-you" grin of your face

      And try using your capabilities for something useful, other than doing monkey tricks with your writing. they're really only feeble attempts to make other people feel inferior, and hardly impress other intelligent people.

      find a cure for cancer, then come back to brag

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  20. Re:Prologs programmers are left-handed? by samurphy21 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think it's more likely that only those of us with our brains in backwards could ever see fit to sit through an entire course of Prolog.

  21. To the laterality-interested... by j.leidner · · Score: 2, Informative
    ...I recommend the following two things:
    • in London, there's a shop called 'All things left-handed'; they have special scissors for left-handed people and other hillarious items
    • there's a great book about laterality called 'Left Hand, Right Hand' by Chris McManus (nomen est omen -- the Latin for 'hand' is manus ;-). Here's the Website of the book: click me

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  22. third gen lefty writes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Interesting article though I disagree with the statement about LH persons being less analytical.

    I'm a third gen lefty (tree: PGM, F, myself). My eldest son fell from near my side of the family tree and he (now 6) has only ceased to be ambidexterous in the last two months. He went to the dark side and uses his right hand to throw and write. Still bats and kicks left however so maybe he'll make it to the major leagues yet. Still holding out hope for the newborn daughter.

    Anyway, I'm PhD physicist, my Dad (LH) is a very talented mechanical designer/engineer. Grandmother was a puzzle wizard. If you look at PhD level scientists you will find more than the nominal 10% LH... which does not support the "less analytical" assertion. On the other hand (pun?) perhaps we LH are less analytical but in return we are given better gifts to see analytic tasks as in a more wholistic light. Maybe this is why Maxwell's Equations, classical E&M, the Standard Model Lagrangian and GR are as beautiful as Sunday Afternoon by Seurat or as magnificent as DaVinci's David to me.

  23. Re:!tsop dednah tfet tsriF by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Funny

    "One strange thing I've noticed when teaching and attending Emergency Medical Services (read 'ambulance service') classes is that there are a higher number of lefties then the general population."

    It's a lot harder to run with left-handed scissors than the general populace realizes.

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  24. Not to mention the follow-up... by Kjella · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...as good as one hand can get, I'm sure there are evolutionary good reasons to also have a good second hand. That'll keep left and right fairly equal, and then the "gap" to flip it around and use left as your primary and right as your secondary isn't that big.

    I think many people misunderstand evolution as a process towards a "superbeing", one obviously better than the last in every respect. It is just as much about providing a flexibility so that a species may adapt to changing circumstances. Being able to throw a left punch in a right-punch world. Or to live in a colder / warmer / drier / wetter / whatever climate. Dinosaurs excelled as the circumstances were. They changed, and the dinosaurs couldn't adapt.

    Hell, I could talk about modern-day life. Those who can adapt to the stress, instant communication and almost constant hustle and bustle do well, those that don't do less well. Could evolution adapt to that in the span of decades? No way. But it has given each of us different capabilities, some of which will be more useful, some less. To adapt is much more important than being 0.3% stronger than the last generation.

    Kjella

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  25. Re:i am left handed and yes... by Barsema · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'd give my left arm to be ambidextrous!

  26. Re:!tsop dednah tfet tsriF by HanB · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I am left handed, they tought me to write with right (the friendly way). But when I was eight I broke my right wrist and started writing with left again, after that they tought me to write with right again. So now I'm ambidextrous (two-handed).
    Quite practical while playing a game of pool. I don't have to play those odd balls behind my back which everyone always misses. I just switch to the other hand.

    I was dyslexic until I tought myself writing properly at the age of 29. I had two mental breakdowns at the age of 11 and 22. It's still lurking around the corner and can only be held at bay by strong discipline. And I'm a typical case of asperger.
    So yes, the results don't surprise me at all.

    Although people generally agree I am very intelligent it won't help me since I have none of the skills that are required for material or social success.

    Personally I think you are all a cruel bunch who never speak clearly and are only interested in personal gain.
    I do feel like I come from another planet sometimes, at least I am treated that way.

  27. Reason for existence by murdochrjj · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm a leftie. The reason I think left handness exists is specialisation. Darwinian theory doesn't mean we will all be the same exact highly optimised beings. What happens if the environment changes? Evolution would not be able to react fast enough. Instead sucessful groups of our ancestors, the ones which survived, emerged from the jungle and ultimately produced us, had group members with different strengths, different abilities. It's like any game, for example it red alert or d&d. If you only have spell casters in a party, or one type of unit in an attack, you will not be as successful as a mixed group.

  28. " And evolution has purposely kept them."???? by kahei · · Score: 4, Insightful


    Evolution is not a god that sits on a mountain somewhere. It's the theory that those forms that have the greatest tendency to propagate in a given environment gradually become more frequent in that environment(*).

    Seriously, this kind of bizarre 'science as voodoo' thinking is why to a lot of people creationism doesn't sound so stupid -- "God wanted there to be left handed people for his own ineffable plan" sounds about equivalent to "Evolution has kept left handed people on purpose".

    It sucks and requires a certain amount of discipline, but it's better to keep science as science, a methodology for choosing between theories, than to let it become just another set of beliefs, like a religion.

    (*) I know this is not a good or rigorous definition of evolution in general or biological Darwinian evolution in particular, but throw me a frickin' bone here.

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  29. Holy anthropomorphisation! by Tim+C · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Evolution hasn't purposely done anything. For whatever reason, there is not sufficient evolutionary disadvantage to being left handed for it to have died out amongst humans. Conversely, any advantage there may be to being right-handed is sufficent to make it dominant, but insufficient to wipe out left-handedness.

    Evolution is a name for a process, not a thing, it doesn't do anything, on purpose or not.

    For a geek/tech site, we're very loose with our terminology and language at times...

  30. List of Famous Left Handed People by jeffkjo1 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    1. Jim Henson
    2. Half of the Beatles (The half that still walks on this earth)- Paul and Ringo
    3. Ross Perot
    4. Henry Ford
    5. Joel Hodgson
    6. Jay Leno
    7. Matt Groening
    8. Mark Twain
    9. Michelangelo, Raphael, Leonardo (The painters)
    10. Don Adams

    The list goes on here.
  31. Re:!tsop dednah tfet tsriF by adrielus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And to all those who read into this too far; are righties really too different than lefties? My mother was a lefty "beaten" to be a righty and therefore ambidextrous. She can write with both hands. One of the more smarter individuals I've met. I myself am a righty and I find no challenge in thinking right-minded or left. So really, in the end, does it make a difference?

  32. My Dog's Got a Name and It's Oscar Mayer by The-Bus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While helping my girlfriend with her lab on the common Fiddler crab (Uca pugilator) I decided to do some side-research of my own*. I found that approximately 1/3rd of Fiddler crabs in our population (of about 20) were left-handed (in that their left claw was freakin' huge). This would lead credence to an earlier post talking about handedness being a surprise to rivals.

    It is interesting to see, however, that the Scientific American article covering the same subject seemed to focus more on the study whose results found similarites in the limbic system asymmetry between primates. The handedness study (which of course waters down easier for the average person) seemed to be second fiddle.

    By the way, the actual studies are found here (in 300-500KB PDFs):
    Asymmetries in the Hippocampus and Amygdala of Chimpanzees
    Handedness in Chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes) Is Associated With Asymmetries of the Primary Motor Cortex but Not With Homologous Language Areas

    * I had previously determined that the bisque turned out a bit stringy and that scampi was preferred. This, sadly, derailed the other, more "important" research.

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  33. links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hi there.

    I got sent a link to your post from a friend who knows I do some research into hominid handedness and laterality. I was interested in reading the articles and managed to find them through the power of the internet, so I thought you might want the link:

    http://www.apa.org/journals/bne/press_releases/d ec ember_2004/bne1186.html

    Cheers, Lisa

  34. Re:It's a preference, and is condemned in the Bibl by Triskele · · Score: 3, Informative
    Sinister is derived from Latin, and means "left." That's all.

    [Sigh] And it's use by the mediaeval church is why it means 'evil'. In fact although the parent was satire (not troll) as all good satire it was very close to the truth. The church has long used 'left' to mean 'evil' - left-handers really were persecuted in times past. We still use the phrase cack-handed. And a lot of the modern left-wing demonisation by the right is very religiously inspired.

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  35. This is an uninformed debate... by museumpeace · · Score: 2, Interesting
    We all have a brain and most of us have two hands so I guess that qualifies all of us to report anecdotal evidence and extrapolate.
    But chimp research would have to null out the contributions to handedness that might be made by any number of OTHER differences in brain development between humans and the rest of the primates before these scientists, let alone a bunch of /. readers could draw conclusions:.
    1. The timeline of human brain development from birth to adolescence is hardly one of linear increases in all capabilities and is not the same as chimps
    2. the LACK of parity between LH and RH dominant individuals is complex: the numbers are not evenly distributed but that is obscured, as serveral posters reported, by cultural enforcers that mask biologicaly determined behavior. We might even be seeing the reports of apparent intellectual advantages in a few lefties because our culture has beaten the lefthandedness out of a larger subset of the population with only the more gifted and adaptable surviving the brainwashing.
    3. ...These areas have a definite correlation to handedness as a right-handed person has a 97% chance of having these speech structures on the left versus the right while in a left-handed person has a 50-50 chance of this (if my neuroanatomy is correct)....[bloodredsun's comment] is particularly interesting since it implies there are yet other dimensions to the asymmetry between LR and RH dominance, these are not distributions of capability that are anatomically just mirror images of each other but distinctly different wiring.
    4. I have not read every comment but so far there is no report of data correlating extent of corpus collosum [CC:the bridge between L and R hemispheres. nearest analog to a computer bus you will find in brain anatomy] to handedness. The CC is [if memory serves] is better developed in women than men ON AVERAGE and women [perhaps as a consequence] have [on average] less rigid specialization of functions to particular brain regions. This is why [on average] women recover more fully from strokes then men do.
    5. someone probably trotted out the stat that lefties have more accidents and I just missed it. Its a whole other debate about whether that is due to strong tendencies to put the saftey/kill-switch/brakes/etc on dangerous equipment where a RH person would expect them or due to other considerations but its not likely to be attributable to language skills...differences between LH and RH persons that don't stem from language either support or don't repute the findings of the article so I guess this one is a point for the sciencists.
    6. Is there any study or known correlation between handedness and [_]dyslexia, [_]ADD or ADHD, [_]Stuttering, [_] other developmental anomalies, e.g. autism?
    But, of course, I have my anecdotes too;)
    My mom reports that she was probably a lefty but growing up in the 30's in a Missouri village where the dogs barked in German and you were either a Luthern or a Methodist, she had that bad habit beaten out of her. One of my boys writes [illegibly] with his left hand but throws [and I mean quite athletcally: he's an ultimate frisby player] righty.
    and PLEASE, if you can't read or react in an informed and rational way concerning the general fact that there are differences between men and women, please exit the conversation NOW!.
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  36. Being a southpaw in the information age... by Gneral+Tsao · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...definitely has its advantages if you're used to using a mouse with your right hand. I can surf and take notes at the same time. Also, I'm better at finding the really ripe fruit.

  37. Re:!tsop dednah tfet tsriF by TheRealSync · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As far as I know the number of left-handed in the Middle East (and Asia for that matter) is equivalent to the number in the west, so I don't think this has got anything to do with the direction of writing. Is seems to be mostly a coincidence. An interesting point is that all people "read" pictures the same way - left to right - no matter how they are used to reading letters.

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  38. It's not really natural selection by Hollister+01 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Pick up any child development book (like any college book) and it will tell you that whatever side you lie on in the womb determines if you are left or right handed. And it makes perfect sense, too. If you are lying on your left (as many obviously do) your right arm is free to move and start developing motor skills. And if you lie on the right, you have to use your left arm to move all about. And there is really nothing you can to about it. That's why natural selection hasn't just "threaded" them out, because there has been no way to. Just because your parent's are both lefties dosen't mean you will be, because you prob won't.

  39. Brain lateralization and personality by psychgeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There are some studies that link brain lateralization to personality in birds and mamals, which provides an explanation of the survival benefits of having both left and right handed members in a species: http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s1139554.ht m/ (Ask yourself - who do the marmosets remind you of??) Someone else did a game theory analysis of how predation could lead to lateral specialisation in prey as a survival strategy, but I don't have the link. For the profoundly right lateralized(~LH), you might appreciate these marmosets also: http://www.rathergood.com/moon_song/