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Babylon 5 Movie Starts Filming in April

An anonymous reader writes "According to comingsoon.net, the first theatrical Babylon 5 movie, "The Memory of the Shadows" starts filming in April. The story was written by series creator J. Michael Straczynski."

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  1. excellent by Libertarian001 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    woot

    best...sci-fi...series...ever

  2. pre-emptive mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Steven Beck will direct a big screen adaptation of the popular sci-fi TV series Babylon 5. The movie, titled The Memory of Shadows, is intended for theatrical release and was written by series creator J. Michael Straczynski. Production Weekly reports that the project starts filming this April in the UK.

    In "Shadows," the technology of the ancient and extinct Shadow race is being unleashed upon the galaxy by an unknown force, and Earthforce intelligence officer Diane Baker, whose brother was recently killed in a mysterious explosion, it out to find out who is behind the intergalactic conspiracy.

    Joining her is Galen, a techno-mage who has been charged with keeping the technology out of the hands of those who would abuse it.

  3. Question ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From the article:

    Joining her is Galen, a techno-mage who has been charged with keeping the technology out of the hands of those who would abuse it.

    I don't recall, but isn't he the guy from Crusade? I only saw two episodes but that name sounds familiar.

    1. Re:Question ... by Abel29A · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Thats correct. Galen was the techno mage...

      Which lead me to fear this film will be more Crusader than Babylon5, and I for one did not really find the whole Crusader spinn-off that great.

      It became to much of a Star Trek clone.....(One ship travelling through space encountering weird aliens...)

      Wheres the fun in that? B5 was all about grand campaign and universe-spanning alliances.

      BTW. The First B5 movie is really great(The one dealing with Earth-Minbari War). The other two less so.

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    2. Re:Question ... by ionpro · · Score: 4, Informative

      There were actually five Bab5 movies (/me fires up the FTP client):
      I: In the Beginning (Earth-Minbari War, editorialized by Londo)
      II: Thirdspace (Set Between winning the Shadow War and the assault on earth, the B5 crew finds a portal to another dimension left by the Vorlons)
      III: The River Of Souls (Elaboration on the Soul Keeper concept introduced in one of the first episodes)
      IV: The Legend of the Rangers -- which, by the way, I quite liked. I think it's been much maligned. Ranger movie
      V: A Call To Arms -- this set the backplot for the spin-off Crusade.

      These were all TNT (?) Movies of the Week.

    3. Re:Question ... by Darren+Winsper · · Score: 4, Informative

      Crusade was buggered over by TNT. Anyhow, keep in mind that the first season of B5 was episodic and only hinted at what was to come. Crusade was the same; JMS actually planned to have the ship find the cure early in the second season, discover some massive plot involving earth and shadow technology and end up essentially on the run from Earth Force.

    4. Re:Question ... by mfarah · · Score: 5, Informative
      Thats correct. Galen was the techno mage...

      Which lead me to fear this film will be more Crusader than Babylon5, and I for one did not really find the whole Crusader spinn-off that great.

      It became to much of a Star Trek clone.....(One ship travelling through space encountering weird aliens...)

      Wheres the fun in that? B5 was all about grand campaign and universe-spanning alliances.



      The thing about Crusade was that only the first 13 episodes were filmed, which are usually where you
      introduce the viewers to the series, basic premise, characters, etcetera. The show didn't have a chance to get started.

      SPOILERS AHEAD

      Two scripts were written by JMS but not filmed - episodes 14 and the season finale. They were published at a long gone website and I had a chance to read them.

      In episode 14, the ship finds the ship that attacked the Captain's ship long ago (when Galen
      rescues it), and the Excalibur manages to toast it. In the season finale, they find another one of those, track it down as it flees to its base, where they are confronted by defending fighters, which are... get this... starfuries! Yup, that ship was built by humans using Shadow tech.

      JMS hinted that the plague thing was just the way to introduce the series, and that a cure would be found early (possibly as early as season 2!), but Excalibur would become a FUGITIVE ship in the meantime...

      No, not like trek. :-)

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  4. First Post ... by sarice · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oddly, the first post to this slashdot story
    was submitted 1000 years ago.

    1. Re:First Post ... by ke6 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Zathras wasn't funny. That was Zathras who was funny. Zathras got all of mothers funny.

      No, poor Zathras here likes dirt and bugs. All part of great scheme of things.

    2. Re:First Post ... by Mhrmnhrm · · Score: 5, Funny

      Zathras was cool, but I liked Zathras better ;)

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    3. Re:First Post ... by Y-Crate · · Score: 5, Informative

      "By the by, anybody else find Zathras to be the funniest time-travelling alien ever?"

      Yes, sadly Tim Choate who brought the character to life on screen passed away 2 and a half months ago. :(

      He will be missed.

  5. B5 movie...info at last! by Random+Chaos · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, this is news that is long awaited. It looks like this may be a follow-on to the Crusade spin-off series since it is dealing with leftover Shadow technology. Plus Galen, being present in Crusade, draws a link between those two. There have been rumors that Lando might show up in it...and where he goes G'Kar goes too. JMS also made some comments a while back about having to rewrite the script some after Richard Biggs died (Dr. Franklin) so clearly it looks like some B5 crew from the original show might show up beyond the ambassadors.

    Can't wait to hear more news.

    *Waiting for JMS to release some info directly still

  6. Re:B5 Series vs Movies by Rollie+Hawk · · Score: 4, Funny

    In fact, I think each movie was progressively worse than the next.

    That's deep...

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  7. Re:Not sure if I'm going to see it by Macrat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're the reason the networks have to dumb down programming.

  8. As the Comic Book Guy would say... by phaln · · Score: 5, Funny

    Most. Underrated. Series. Ever.

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  9. Re:Not sure if I'm going to see it by AmiNTT · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I have to agree. Star Trek was completely ruined for me by Babylon 5. The whole 5 year arc concept is amazing - stuff that you see in the first season, which you think was mildly interesting, suddenly three seasons later becomes really important!

    Each time a season would come out, I'd loose two days to watching the entire thing. The final episode (Sleeping in Light) gets me every single time I watch it.

    I strongly recommend B5 to anyone who likes Sci-fi. Start in season 1 and work your way forwards. It makes far more sense this way. Watch the movies (other than the pilot) AFTER you watch the series. Avoid the temptation of "In the Beginning". It is better that way, in my opinion.

  10. Best Sci Fi Ever? Nah! That would be: Firefly! by Bifster · · Score: 4, Interesting
    best...sci-fi...series...ever

    Not quite.

    Clearly the best Sci Fi series ever is: Firefly :)

    Seriously, if you haven't seen Firefly, rent all 4 disks from Netflix or something, you won't be disappointed. My favorite episode is the last on the disks: Objects In Space. All 9 main characters are interesting, complex, believable, and bounce off each in a manner consistent with their personalities. The action is great, plots are fairly unpredictable, and the writing is packed full of sharp humor.

    For alternate opinions, check out the reviews of the Firefly DVD's on Amazon: 1200 reviews, average rating: 5 stars

    B5 I'd say would be close behind on the rating scale overall... Mostly I think for it's ambition, and intricate tapestry of dramatic plotlines.

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  11. Babylon 5 flight sim! by Kaimelar · · Score: 4, Informative

    While you're waiting for the movie, check out the fan-created flight sim, complete with a detailed story, realistic physics, and great ship models:

    http://ifh.firstones.com/

    Enjoy!

  12. Another Trek? Hardly. by Card · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I for one did not really find the whole Crusade spin-off that great. It became to much of a Star Trek clone. (One ship travelling through space encountering weird aliens...)
    JMS's weakness is that while he seems to be very good at the episodic ~42 minute format, his movies aren't that well paced at ~90 minutes. Further, he tends to drop very subtle hints about things that will feature in the plot much, much later (3 - 5 years wasn't unheard of with B5).

    This means that while the pilot movies are filled with action, they tend to appear shallow and sometimes confusing to the casual viewer. Only further developments in the main story or careful analysis of the pilot will give you some clues. Let me give an example.

    The B5 pilot The Gathering is filled with action, lots of characters and a convoluted plot. In the end it appears that "the bad guy" is G'Kar, having smuggled the assassin on the station. Well, yes. Except that G'Kar wasn't behind the turbolift sabotage. Working in the background, Lt. Commander Takashima was trying to escalate this conflict into a full-scale war. See See Lurker's Guide for an analysis. This plot point would later be rearranged and used in 2nd season.

    The similarities in A Call to Arms and Legend of the Rangers suggest to me that the man has a massive story thought out; one which probably would last another 5 seasons and which he would like to tell us eagerly.

    Early on, B5 was compared to Trek, but it turned out to be something different. I suspect that Crusade wouldn't have been your Trek clone, either. Myself, I can hardly wait for the movie and the eventual TV series.

  13. Re:Anyone else find the last episode really lame? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Last episode? The episode you're describing was the season finale for season 3, right at the height of the shadow war story arc. There were two complete seasons after that...

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  14. B5's strength lies in the TV series format by Mictian · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm a huge old school fan of Babylon 5. Old school in the sense that I started watching when it was in it's late first season / early second season, was back in 1994/1995 (or thereabouts). I'm sure there are plenty of more "seasoned" folks who started with the initial broadcast of the first episode.

    As far as the popularity or "perceived quality" of Babylon 5's seasons go, I think a lot of fans (dare I say most?) would agree that it increased from season one through season three, each successive season being better than the previous.

    To me personally this was the case all the way until the end of season four. But I realize not everyone prefers season four over season three. Many seem to like the grander scale of the Shadow War over the civil war.

    The good thing about season four was that there were hardly any "filler" or non-arc episodes. I assume everyone knows the reason for this so I won't go into it any further (in short: the series was in danger of cancellation after season 4). This is also, at least in my mind, the root cause of the problem with season five.

    JMS, having the initially well laid out and pre-planned story arc completed by the end of season four, was suddenly faced with the fact that the show was renewed for season five (thanks to TNT picking it up from Warner) and he had a very limited timeframe to come up with scripts and some sort of a mini story arc for the last season.

    Add the very last minute leaving of Claudia Christian from the show (which forces JMS to toss out Ivanova's character and come up with a replacement) and you have a recipe if not for disaster, then at least for a "not so great" season. Under the circumstances I would say JMS did a decent job (I remember reading on the usenet B5 newsgroups that 4 or 5 hours a night was pretty much a good night's sleep for him at the time).

    Now don't get me wrong, I hated (and still do) the whole Byron / Tragedy of telepaths subplot. A lot. I don't know anyone among my friends who likes it (and they're pretty much all big fans of B5). Imho the only good part about it is that the annoying teeps get what's coming to them. But the whole thing takes up only about eight episodes from the start of the season (which some will argue is 8 episodes too many). That still leaves almost two thirds to take care of the pretty decent mini arc dealing with the shadow tech and the Drakh's plot concerning Londo and the Centauri.

    I think season five overall is a bit underrated. It has a host of good episodes (including one of my favourites, The Corps is Mother, The Corps is Father) and the latter part of the season is pretty good with a nice build up to the Fall of Centauri Prime. Also, at this point in the series the "weight of history" (for lack of a better term) of the character's and their actions gives a lot of the scenes and drama some extra gravitas, which I like.

    With this rather long and boring rambling I've hopefully arrived somewhere near my actual point. Which is that Babylon 5's main strength in my view is the pre- planned, conceived and written story arc that tells a great story and a bunch of smaller stories intertwined over a (long) period of 110 episodes. It allowes for such wonderful foreshadowing that carefully builds up to the dramatic and climactic events. This is very hard to replicate in the time constraints of a motion picture.

    And this is the reason I believe the four TV-movies haven't been the best B5 can offer (although I personally like In the Beginning a lot). Also this fundamental issue or problem probably can't simply be undone with a larger budget (which the big screen adaptation will likely have compared to the TV-movies).

    So with a somewhat spotty track record of B5 (TV) movies so far and the aforementioned problem my expectations are moderate at best. Having said that, I'll probably be in line to get a ticket to the premiere..

    Btw, in case you already haven't done so, remember to check out The Lurker's Guide's page for The Memory of Shadows @ http://

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  15. Re:Best Sci Fi Ever? Nah! That would be: Firefly! by hachete · · Score: 4, Interesting

    agree 100%. Bought the DVDs - well worth it. The humour is sharp, the technology not too unbelievable. Space is *silent*. They actually shutdown shipboard systems to avoid detection! Yes! No men in rubber suits! Guns that need oxygen to fire! Serenity is grungy, as it should be. Great characters, action, scripts.

    The humour is a relief from the sheer po-faced gravitas of Voyager and a large part of the ST genre. Humour is what (mostly) set aside the first ST series, and is pretty much absent from the subsequent ST series.

    And I definitely have the hots for Zoey. Whooey...

    h

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  16. Re:Best Sci Fi Ever? Nah! That would be: Firefly! by SavvyPlayer · · Score: 4, Funny

    No Top 3 Sci Fi Series list is complete without Red Dwarf. A special-effects tour-de-force, RD combines a prophetic future vision with keen insights into the unchanging nature of man's relationship with technology. The only thing holding RD back from being a true contender is its lack of a sense of humor -- it does tend to take itself too seriously.

  17. What happened towards the end (SPOILERS) by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As others have pointed out, the episodes were written a season at a time. This partly explains why season 5 was only OK compared to the brilliant seasons 3 and 4: they suspected that they might not be able to make it, so the final episode (ultimately shown as the final ep of season 5 when it did go ahead) was actually filmed at the end of season 4, and a lot of the details seem to have been moved forward a series to guarantee that they were there. Series 5 didn't fit in as well as the others, because most of it was expendable to the main story arc.

    Personally, I would rather they hadn't made that final episode anyway, nor the official final episode to season 4 (the one jumping into the future more and more). IMHO, they should either have done season 5 properly, or have finished everything with Sheridan and Delenn on the ship on the way back to B5, with a stronger voice-over about space being ours to look after now. Alas, the TV execs apparently didn't leave this as an option they could plan for in advance.

    The looking into the future episodes, particularly those so far ahead that all my favourite characters are long-dead and the universe has moved on, always diminished the scale of the main series to me, rather than showing how worthwhile it had all been as I suspect JMS intended. Far better to set another series slightly after the original -- as Crusade would have been, and the film apparently will be -- where you've got the grand framework of the main series as a backdrop, making a difference.

    Oh, and the fates of Marcus and Lennier -- the only two truly honourable characters in the whole series -- were very sad, too. Their destinies may have been perfect for the reality of the series, but if we can save the whole universe, couldn't they at least have found room for two characters in five whole series to have the happy endings they deserved?

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  18. B5 links [quotes/game] & comments by Lord+Satri · · Score: 4, Informative
    These words are probably useless, too many comments already (/. suffering from its own success). Anyway, there goes some links I have not seen yet in the threads.

    The Lurker's Guide (already in the threads)

    B5 quotes

    More quotes

    I Found Her - Free great B5 game (worthed a look)

    Probably much more interesting links. I *really* liked B5. It helped me see things differently and actively participated in my "growing up". I published a Babylon 5 book of quotes if you're interested. Like many others, I fear a movie won't be good enough. One of the strengths of B5 was telling a story over countless episodes, not only 2 hours. Time will say.

    "We create the future, with our words, our deeds and with our beliefs"
    - Lady Ladira, B5: "Signs and Portents"

  19. Ivanova is God by Wandering+Wombat · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Ivanova is always right. I will listen to Ivanova. I will not ignore Ivanova's recomendations. Ivanova is God. And, if this ever happens again, I will personally rip your lungs out!" And "Commander! Did you threaten to grab hold of this man by the pants and throw him out an airlock? I'd remind you that we are short on pants here. We can't afford to take perfectly good clothing and throw it out into space. Always take the pants off first, I've told you that before. Sorry, she meant to say: 'Stripped naked and thrown out an airlock.' I apologize for any confusion this may have caused."

    And finally... "I could have at least boffed him."

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