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Mozilla Heading to Mobiles

mu22le writes "CNET News.com has an interview with Doug Turner, the project leader of Minimo, the version of Mozilla for small devices. The article (also commented upon at mozillazine) roams from the challenges a small devices browser presents to the competition with Opera for Mobile. Brace yourself for the forthcoming Minimo 0.3, due in January."

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  1. I'd use it if... by teiresias · · Score: 4, Informative

    Now if I just use one of my micro mobile devices for browsing the web...

    My cellphone, my pda, hell probably my digital camera can probably get on the Internet. But if you think I'm browsing webpages on that kind of screen your nuts.

    My hats off Doug Turner and to the guys programming Minimo but I just don't browse the web on my micro devices. I use them for their other features.

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    1. Re:I'd use it if... by bergwitz · · Score: 2, Informative

      Depends on what kind of web-pages we're talking about. Browsing news or forums with a mobile is pointless due to screensize, but I use my mobile on the net quite often. It is quite useful for things like bus schedules, cinema programs for tonight, finding the nearest ATM or gas station. But then again I live in Scandinavia...

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  2. Ummm... by LWATCDR · · Score: 3, Informative

    32 to 64 megs is lightweight?
    Man that seems like a pretty heavy memory requirement.

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    1. Re:Ummm... by Rosonowski · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think that's more of a "total system memory" thing.

      PDAs tend to come in 16,32,64, and the occasional 128MB models.

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  3. Re:Why Mozilla will fail. by Steve+Embalmer · · Score: 1, Informative

    Just stick with IE, people

    Not on Pocket PC. PIE--to say it kindly--is a pile of shit. Seriously, if you don't agree you probably haven't tried it. Ever notice the number of competing browsers available for PPC devices?

    In my experience, the first thing a *serious* PPC user will do is buy a real browser.

  4. Re:a light browser by ricotest · · Score: 2, Informative

    33mb here after several hours of browsing. Unless you've been opening a lot of pr0n in tabs (I'm just going by your nickname :P) since it has known memory leak problems.

  5. Re:Eventual PPC port? by Tx · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm sure they'll get to a PPC port. But I currently use NetFront on my iPAQ, and that'll take some beating. The "Smart-Fit" page rendering does an amazing job of reformatting pages to be readable on the small screen. Plus tabbed browsing, very high degree of "big browser" compatibility, and a JVM for good measure. NetFront ain't free though, so a decent PPC version of Minimo would be velcome.

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  6. Re:a light browser by lubricated · · Score: 1, Informative

    Here's what top shows, for those of you in disbelief. The only window/tab open is the one I'm typin right now. It always seams to take this much.

    PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
    5146 mpalczew 15 0 135m 57m 35m S 7.6 13.2 7:45.43 firefox-bin
    3016 mpalczew 15 0 126m 41m 32m S 0.0 9.4 0:17.09 mozilla-thunder

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  7. VGA PPCs by chman · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've got a Loox 720, which has a fabulous VGA screen. Except, it may as well not have one, because everything is just double the size for compatibility's sake. PocketIE just doubles the size of all graphics, making web browsing a real chore on non-mobile-optimised sites. There's a workaround, that involves using SEVGA or OzVGA to eliminate this pixel-doubling, but that breaks a lot of applications, and just looks ugly in others. Better support for VGA devices is crucial if whatever's left of the market is going to go anywhere, as the increased resolution adds so much functionality to these devices - web browsing, email, even Office functionality such as viewing spreadsheets becomes feasible. MS really dropped the ball here. Has anyone had any luck with other apps? I'm using PIE with MultiIE, which is a great addon, but it's annoying having to soft reset every time I want to do some web browsing.

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  8. Re:How long before Opera starts enforcing patents? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    In addition to not being the first company to come up with those ideas, Opera as a company is also against software patents.

  9. Re:Eventual PPC port? by Herr_Nightingale · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've been following the project for a while now, and Pocket PC is not even on the roadmap; Minimo is strictly *nix. Also, it requires a gigantic chunk of memory (min. 32MB) to run, and it's far from fast. There is absolutely no comparison to Opera. None.
    Mobile Opera is tiny (like 200k!!) and super-efficient, but only runs on smartphones right now.
    It looks like we have a chance of seeing Opera on the iPaq sooner than Minimo, even though Opera too doesn't care much for Pocket PC.

    In the meantime, try NetFront 3.1 - it's sweet. But it doesn't work on 2003SE in landscape mode.